How do adrenals affect thyroid biologically?

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On 11, 1/08, at 11:15 AM, English stage 5 burden 12 wrote:

> I don't think that is the case for me, but I was curious to know if

> your fatigued adrenals could keep your own thyroid hormones from

> entering the cells.

From what I've read (which is " overview " stuff, not journal

articles), if the adrenals can't " handle " the amount of thyroid that

is put out, thyroid gland output will decrease, and TSH will

increase, which would *appear* as hypo, when in fact thyroid

treatment (without cortisol support) may be the worst thing to do.

Is it known what this affect of the adrenals on the thyroid is

mediated by? It could be a direct signal from one gland to the

other, bypassing the pituitary, or a some interaction between ACTH

and the thyroid gland, I'm thinking. It couldn't be that the

adrenals are influencing the TSH feedback loop, as then TSH wouldn't

be expected to rise. Or there could be other pituitary hormones we

don't know about that mediate the thyroid (and the conversion enzymes

- what makes D1 go to either T3 or RT3 for instance), and protein

binding/unbinding of T3/T4

Jim

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>

> From what I've read (which is " overview " stuff, not journal

> articles), if the adrenals can't " handle " the amount of thyroid that

> is put out, thyroid gland output will decrease, and TSH will

> increase, which would *appear* as hypo, when in fact thyroid

> treatment (without cortisol support) may be the worst thing to do.

Are you saying that in this case thyroid treatment could actually

damage adrenals? That is a really scary thought.

English

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I am noit sure how adrenals affect thyroid as in the gland, btu the

hormones cortisol opens the receptors for thyroid thus T3 cannot enter

the cells without enough cortisol being present. Thus wiht low cortisol,

the Thyroid builds higher in the blood than it should which in turn will

shut down TSH by the feedback koop then the thyroid makes less hormoens

but the tissue levels of thyroid are still low which then triggers more

TSH production. It is no wonder the TSH lab is so confusing when the

adrenals are part of the picture.

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http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

[Guest guest]

I am noit sure how adrenals affect thyroid as in the gland, btu the

hormones cortisol opens the receptors for thyroid thus T3 cannot enter

the cells without enough cortisol being present. Thus wiht low cortisol,

the Thyroid builds higher in the blood than it should which in turn will

shut down TSH by the feedback koop then the thyroid makes less hormoens

but the tissue levels of thyroid are still low which then triggers more

TSH production. It is no wonder the TSH lab is so confusing when the

adrenals are part of the picture.

--

Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/