Guest guest Posted June 25, 1999 Report Share Posted June 25, 1999 , T. wrote: > From: " , T. " <S@...> > > I am taking all this stuff because of the article by that wacky guy from new > Zealand -- actually is was the CFS radio show. I will do it for another week > but I really think that I am playing the role of a fool, not feeling any > better. > > I guess I will continue taking some but I an less and less impressed by the > notion of EFAs as a treatment. > > LOL > > Steve Steve, I tried all the oils years ago, the Primrose, Flax (aka Linseed), Fish oil and castor oil, and mixed oil capsules. Spent lots of money but got no results at all. At that time the purpose for me trying Primrose oil was for monthly cylce complaints (theres one hopefully you don't have to worry about) and I do think that its helpful for that, one would have to experiment on their own. As far as the oils curing my CFS - it didn't happen. Didn't even make my skin healtheir or anything. Its been like sandpaper for years, UNTIL about the last week, the Immunocal is really starting to make my skin softer! My energy from it is still in spurts and jerks, but thats better than FLAT LINE no energy!!!! Personally I am sticking with the brand name Immunocal as its the only product in my 21 years of illness thats really done something I can see and feel. I wouldn't want to risk that to save a few bucks. If it works its worth it! Take care, Marcia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 1999 Report Share Posted June 26, 1999 Ditto to the oils....... I seem to like Norwegein Cod Liver Oil, well I still think it just might help somewhwere, but nix on the other oils esp primrose.... thought gail wrote about Simpson saying he visited a American health Store and none of our primrose oil was up to snuff.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2000 Report Share Posted July 11, 2000 I was wondering if anyone knew where I could get a blueberry mold, and other fruits for molds for my candles, Ive checked all over the web but can not find blueberries or any of that, I just find strawberries. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2000 Report Share Posted December 16, 2000 Deb, I want to make a large amount of bath oil. Do you have any recipes for large batches and where can I get the ingredients? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2000 Report Share Posted December 17, 2000 Jeez Deb, You are a wealth of knowledge! Just wanted to say I am very impressed with all your wonderful toiltries ideas!! I'll be looking for your posts all the time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2000 Report Share Posted December 17, 2000 " mail.baldwin-net.com " wrote: > > I have lots of bath product recipes. If you guys would like specific > recipes, let me know and I'll send some. > > I'll be answering some lotion requests a bit later today. > Peace sister, Any bath product recipes would be appreciated. The easier the better :-) -- .:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:. jkh in sc .:*~*:. myrrhsea ~Peaceful Life of the Heart~ Paths to Natural Living http://www.geocities.com/myrrhsea .:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2000 Report Share Posted December 17, 2000 " mail.baldwin-net.com " wrote: > > jkh > First off, grapeseed and almond oils are very desirable oils for cosmetics. Peace sister, My concern was that I know they have been up in the cabinet for some time and had already been opened. They do not smell rancid do you think they will be all right for bath products? -- .:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:. jkh in sc .:*~*:. myrrhsea ~Peaceful Life of the Heart~ Paths to Natural Living http://www.geocities.com/myrrhsea .:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:.:*~*:. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2000 Report Share Posted December 17, 2000 jkh First off, grapeseed and almond oils are very desirable oils for cosmetics. If I found them they would go directly on the cosmetic supply shelf to be used SOON in some facial or body concoction. Grapeseed oil is also good for salad dressings and has a very long shelf life. You can do most anything you wish with it, including bath oils. For an easy bath oil - color and scent your oils and present in pretty packaging. You can add things like Rosewater, glycerin and coconut oil, salt and sugar (the last three for foam) Be creative from there. It's fun!! Hope this helps deb in MI roman@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2000 Report Share Posted December 17, 2000 I have lots of bath product recipes. If you guys would like specific recipes, let me know and I'll send some. I'll be answering some lotion requests a bit later today. Thanks deb in MI roman@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2000 Report Share Posted December 17, 2000 We will making a fresh batch of EMU oil today. I will be putting some in 1 gallon jugs. If anyone is interested please let me know. The 1 gallon size is $45.00 a gallon. I also have oil in a 5 gallon bucket that is $40.00 a gallon. The 1 gallon size will be ready to ship on Monday. Simon CALEB WHOLESALE PRODUCTS FULL LINE ALTERNATIVE ENERGY PRODUCTS 805-475-2209 www.solar-plus.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2000 Report Share Posted December 19, 2000 Sure! Use them. I'd even make dressing. The shelf life is long deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2000 Report Share Posted December 19, 2000 Yep! Got lots of recipes. I'll dig them out later and port them tonight or tomorrow. deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2000 Report Share Posted December 19, 2000 Thanks. The only reason I know anything is because I read and listen to many different sources. I'll be happy to share some of my notes with all of you. deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2001 Report Share Posted January 18, 2001 I take Lecithin or Evening Primrose Oil or Vitamin E every so often. It helps to loosen the parasites, too. abrs@... wrote: > I do a precleanse before a > > 7-day cleansing program. It says on the forum 14 days of raw foods. > > Is that it? Can I use olive oils and if not isn't it dangerous not > > to have any fat in the diet? > > thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2001 Report Share Posted March 29, 2001 Well, I see Flora Udo Oil and Flora Flax Oil at nutritionmegastore.com so maybe these are made by the same company. Does anyone know how long a 17 oz bottle will last if one is taking 2 tablespoons per day? Andy > , All the EAS low carb bars are very tasty! I'd swear they were > unauthorized. I got the Labrada lean Body Blueberry Cheesecake at a high > cost at my gym. Haven't seen it on-line. > > On the issue of Udo's vs. flax. Udo is definitely the king of fat. I trust > that his product will be excellent. If you have good info on the flax > manufacturer and process used to manufacture and get it to you, then it can > be an excellent choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2001 Report Share Posted March 29, 2001 From: " Andy S " > Does anyone know how long a 17 oz bottle will last if one is taking 2 > tablespoons per day? 17 days. 1 ounce = 30ml = 2 tablespoons Lawrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2001 Report Share Posted March 29, 2001 From: " Andy S " > Does anyone know how long a 17 oz bottle will last if one is taking 2 > tablespoons per day? 17 days. 1 ounce = 30ml = 2 tablespoons Lawrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Dear , She is wrong on everything except the palm oil. Udo was writing books long before Flora asked him to design a formula for them to market. Butter should be clarified before using to cook. But, no foods should be fried. Baked, broiled or roasted. Udo is no fan of canola, actually. Dr. Budwig was curing people of cancer with flax oil 40 years before Udo wrote about it. The idea of a 'dangerous' level of flax oil is ludicrous. What is dangerous is transfats, and an imblance of Omega 6 over Omega 3 fats. Flax oil is an excellent way to rebalance the equation. Hemp oil does not contain cannabinoids, and if anyone has flunked their urine test, it certainly wasn't because of hemp oil. And (unfortunately) there are no 'effects' from hemp oil salad dressing which is actually quite tasty. Udo was awarded a doctorate for his work on oils. So apparently, no one (except Ray Peat) agrees with Enig. Caveat emptor. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH -------------------------------------------------------------- From: " Fitzgerald " <f-m-f-s@...> Reply-oxyplus " OxyPlus Group " <oxyplus > Subject: Re: Re: Chains Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:26:24 +0100 According to Enig PhD, Udo's book and his ideas concerning fats are NOT great at all !!! And I quote ........... _______________________________________ Fats That Kill, Fats That Heal is one of the few books for the lay public on the subject of fats and oils. It has sold well and is quoted everywhere. While there is some good information in the book, the facts about fats are so intertwined with error as to present a tangled skein, likely to do more harm than good. The author has worked as a salesman for several companies specializing in cold-pressed vegetable oils, which explains his bias towards polyunsaturated oils and against saturated animal fats and tropical oils, bias that is highly tinged with error. For example, Erasmus states that 16-carbon saturated palmitic acid is the major fatty acid in coconut oil, leaving the impression that coconut oil has no particular health benefits; whereas coconut oil contains very little palmitic acid but is especially rich in beneficial lauric acid. His stand on butter is particularly egregious. He declares that butter is a " neutral " fat, useful for frying but not necessary, and dangerous in excess-wrong on every count. Butter is not neutral, but a highly beneficial source of fat soluble vitamins, anti-carcinogenic substances and antimicrobial fatty acids, hence a very necessary component of the American diet. There is nothing dangerous about including large amounts of butter in the diet, and while fine for sauteing, it is not a particularly good fat for frying. Stable tallows or palm oil are better. Erasmus neglects to tell his readers that dietary saturated fats are very important for the proper utilization of essential fatty acids, especially for the omega-3 fatty acids in flax oil that he has promoted so heavily. He downplays the dangers of excess polyunsaturates, even omega-3 polyunsaturates. The result is that many people, on Udo's advice, are now taking dangerous amounts of flax oil that the body cannot properly utilize. Udo also gives the nod to canola oil, which almost always contains dangerous trans fatty acids formed during processing and which causes vitamin E deficiency in test animals. His most recent gambit is the promotion of hemp oil, which has never been traditionally consumed by humans and which contains cannabinoids, the active ingredients of marijuana. Unsuspecting disciples have flunked their workplace urine drug tests the morning after a salad prepared with hemp oil. Others have suffered gastrointestinal disorders and psychological effects from hemp oil salad dressing. Fats That Kill Fats That Heal is more sales pitch than professional science-buyer beware! (now back from FRANCE!!) :-)) Re: Re: Chains Jim: It's all in " Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill " , but with my memory > problems I can't dredge up what the long chains are. *S. There's long chain fatty acids, and medium chain, and short chain. It all relates to the number of carbon atoms, and then there are the complexities of bonds, double bonds, and configurations (cis and trans). The bonding is what makes an oil saturated or unsaturated. Olive oil is of course, monounsaturated. According to Udo, unsaturated fatty acids are less stable and more active chemically than saturated fatty acids. The saturated fatty acids are considered more stable and inert. This is a great book...highly readable, but technical as well for those who like to delve into these subjects. 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Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Dear , She is wrong on everything except the palm oil. Udo was writing books long before Flora asked him to design a formula for them to market. Butter should be clarified before using to cook. But, no foods should be fried. Baked, broiled or roasted. Udo is no fan of canola, actually. Dr. Budwig was curing people of cancer with flax oil 40 years before Udo wrote about it. The idea of a 'dangerous' level of flax oil is ludicrous. What is dangerous is transfats, and an imblance of Omega 6 over Omega 3 fats. Flax oil is an excellent way to rebalance the equation. Hemp oil does not contain cannabinoids, and if anyone has flunked their urine test, it certainly wasn't because of hemp oil. And (unfortunately) there are no 'effects' from hemp oil salad dressing which is actually quite tasty. Udo was awarded a doctorate for his work on oils. So apparently, no one (except Ray Peat) agrees with Enig. Caveat emptor. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH -------------------------------------------------------------- From: " Fitzgerald " <f-m-f-s@...> Reply-oxyplus " OxyPlus Group " <oxyplus > Subject: Re: Re: Chains Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 23:26:24 +0100 According to Enig PhD, Udo's book and his ideas concerning fats are NOT great at all !!! And I quote ........... _______________________________________ Fats That Kill, Fats That Heal is one of the few books for the lay public on the subject of fats and oils. It has sold well and is quoted everywhere. While there is some good information in the book, the facts about fats are so intertwined with error as to present a tangled skein, likely to do more harm than good. The author has worked as a salesman for several companies specializing in cold-pressed vegetable oils, which explains his bias towards polyunsaturated oils and against saturated animal fats and tropical oils, bias that is highly tinged with error. For example, Erasmus states that 16-carbon saturated palmitic acid is the major fatty acid in coconut oil, leaving the impression that coconut oil has no particular health benefits; whereas coconut oil contains very little palmitic acid but is especially rich in beneficial lauric acid. His stand on butter is particularly egregious. He declares that butter is a " neutral " fat, useful for frying but not necessary, and dangerous in excess-wrong on every count. Butter is not neutral, but a highly beneficial source of fat soluble vitamins, anti-carcinogenic substances and antimicrobial fatty acids, hence a very necessary component of the American diet. There is nothing dangerous about including large amounts of butter in the diet, and while fine for sauteing, it is not a particularly good fat for frying. Stable tallows or palm oil are better. Erasmus neglects to tell his readers that dietary saturated fats are very important for the proper utilization of essential fatty acids, especially for the omega-3 fatty acids in flax oil that he has promoted so heavily. He downplays the dangers of excess polyunsaturates, even omega-3 polyunsaturates. The result is that many people, on Udo's advice, are now taking dangerous amounts of flax oil that the body cannot properly utilize. Udo also gives the nod to canola oil, which almost always contains dangerous trans fatty acids formed during processing and which causes vitamin E deficiency in test animals. His most recent gambit is the promotion of hemp oil, which has never been traditionally consumed by humans and which contains cannabinoids, the active ingredients of marijuana. Unsuspecting disciples have flunked their workplace urine drug tests the morning after a salad prepared with hemp oil. Others have suffered gastrointestinal disorders and psychological effects from hemp oil salad dressing. Fats That Kill Fats That Heal is more sales pitch than professional science-buyer beware! (now back from FRANCE!!) :-)) Re: Re: Chains Jim: It's all in " Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill " , but with my memory > problems I can't dredge up what the long chains are. *S. There's long chain fatty acids, and medium chain, and short chain. It all relates to the number of carbon atoms, and then there are the complexities of bonds, double bonds, and configurations (cis and trans). The bonding is what makes an oil saturated or unsaturated. Olive oil is of course, monounsaturated. According to Udo, unsaturated fatty acids are less stable and more active chemically than saturated fatty acids. The saturated fatty acids are considered more stable and inert. This is a great book...highly readable, but technical as well for those who like to delve into these subjects. Patty OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. 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Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 Dear Saul, Great! Now I'm totally confused as to who to believe!!! ......so what's new?!? :-) Over the last year or so I've been totally convinced with the Weston Price ideals and the work of the Foundation, largely that of Sally Fallon and Enig. I've been slowly gearing my nutritional beliefs and diet towards these ideas, including their comments on fats, and have been working towards using alot of raw jersey butter, animal fats, eggs, olive oil and flax oil as my main sources of fats. Almost everyday, for instance, I've been gently cooking scrambled eggs in butter for breakfast believing it was good. And now someone else I have faith in, namely YOU, tells me that Enig is wrong and Udo is right!! But, just because no one else agrees with Enig does not make her wrong in my eyes and I don't think you can argue with Weston Price's work and the fact that the traditional diets worked producing generation after generation of healthy, strong people. Personally, I have more faith in his kind of 'real-life' studies than I do in the latest thoughts of some crazy scientist's lab studies. (I'll probably get a backlash for that statement!) The type of fats in the diet that Enig talks of have been eaten by many healthy generations of traditional cultures. I admit I've not read his book and do not know his ideas in detail but can the same be said of Udo's ideas ? I always try to think of what man could naturally eat in the 'real' world before food processing, industrial and agricultural advances,etc. Could we realistically grow and produce enough flax or hemp oil for our needs ? Could we realistically grow olives for oil or any of the vegetable oils, coconut oils, etc. Practicality and geographic conditions seem to me to dictate that our main sources of fat would be butter, eggs, animal fats, fish, etc. Or maybe I really am just mad!! :-) Btw, who's Ray Peat ? Slowly losing my mind! ;-) Re: Re: Chains Jim: It's all in " Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill " , but with my memory > problems I can't dredge up what the long chains are. *S. There's long chain fatty acids, and medium chain, and short chain. It all relates to the number of carbon atoms, and then there are the complexities of bonds, double bonds, and configurations (cis and trans). The bonding is what makes an oil saturated or unsaturated. Olive oil is of course, monounsaturated. According to Udo, unsaturated fatty acids are less stable and more active chemically than saturated fatty acids. The saturated fatty acids are considered more stable and inert. This is a great book...highly readable, but technical as well for those who like to delve into these subjects. Patty OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 Dear Saul, Great! Now I'm totally confused as to who to believe!!! ......so what's new?!? :-) Over the last year or so I've been totally convinced with the Weston Price ideals and the work of the Foundation, largely that of Sally Fallon and Enig. I've been slowly gearing my nutritional beliefs and diet towards these ideas, including their comments on fats, and have been working towards using alot of raw jersey butter, animal fats, eggs, olive oil and flax oil as my main sources of fats. Almost everyday, for instance, I've been gently cooking scrambled eggs in butter for breakfast believing it was good. And now someone else I have faith in, namely YOU, tells me that Enig is wrong and Udo is right!! But, just because no one else agrees with Enig does not make her wrong in my eyes and I don't think you can argue with Weston Price's work and the fact that the traditional diets worked producing generation after generation of healthy, strong people. Personally, I have more faith in his kind of 'real-life' studies than I do in the latest thoughts of some crazy scientist's lab studies. (I'll probably get a backlash for that statement!) The type of fats in the diet that Enig talks of have been eaten by many healthy generations of traditional cultures. I admit I've not read his book and do not know his ideas in detail but can the same be said of Udo's ideas ? I always try to think of what man could naturally eat in the 'real' world before food processing, industrial and agricultural advances,etc. Could we realistically grow and produce enough flax or hemp oil for our needs ? Could we realistically grow olives for oil or any of the vegetable oils, coconut oils, etc. Practicality and geographic conditions seem to me to dictate that our main sources of fat would be butter, eggs, animal fats, fish, etc. Or maybe I really am just mad!! :-) Btw, who's Ray Peat ? Slowly losing my mind! ;-) Re: Re: Chains Jim: It's all in " Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill " , but with my memory > problems I can't dredge up what the long chains are. *S. There's long chain fatty acids, and medium chain, and short chain. It all relates to the number of carbon atoms, and then there are the complexities of bonds, double bonds, and configurations (cis and trans). The bonding is what makes an oil saturated or unsaturated. Olive oil is of course, monounsaturated. According to Udo, unsaturated fatty acids are less stable and more active chemically than saturated fatty acids. The saturated fatty acids are considered more stable and inert. This is a great book...highly readable, but technical as well for those who like to delve into these subjects. Patty OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 Re: Oils > > Great! Now I'm totally confused as to who to believe!!! ......so what's new?!? :-) Dear , Welcome to the confused club. Ah, the thirst for knowledge is great, but the well to knowledge is a bottomless pit. One will never know it all. In our search, tho, why not go to the One who does know it all: the Almighty, the all knowing God. > > Practicality and geographic conditions seem to me to dictate that our main sources of fat would be butter, eggs, animal fats, fish, etc. Or maybe I really am just mad!! Well, I would have to say your practicality ain't too shabby! So often we listen to this one and that one and forget what a great commodity we have in simple common sense. In looking at scripture, the fats that are mentioned are: olive oil, butter and even the fatted calf. Don't forget fish. Even in my limited understanding of nutrition, I see in scripture the foods that were eaten were: fish, whole grains, fats, fruits, vegtables, meat and honey. That's not a bad place to start, and I'm sure if we'd do just that, health would be improved. But in spite of my search, I can't find any doughnuts, snicker bars, patatoes chips, coke, or even coffee!!!! Do you think the man upstairs is trying to tell me something? So in our quest for heath in life, and especially that abundant life the Lord came to give us; during our feasting, don't forget to feast on the word of God. " Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. " Here's to your health, . BTW, welcome back. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 Re: Oils > > Great! Now I'm totally confused as to who to believe!!! ......so what's new?!? :-) Dear , Welcome to the confused club. Ah, the thirst for knowledge is great, but the well to knowledge is a bottomless pit. One will never know it all. In our search, tho, why not go to the One who does know it all: the Almighty, the all knowing God. > > Practicality and geographic conditions seem to me to dictate that our main sources of fat would be butter, eggs, animal fats, fish, etc. Or maybe I really am just mad!! Well, I would have to say your practicality ain't too shabby! So often we listen to this one and that one and forget what a great commodity we have in simple common sense. In looking at scripture, the fats that are mentioned are: olive oil, butter and even the fatted calf. Don't forget fish. Even in my limited understanding of nutrition, I see in scripture the foods that were eaten were: fish, whole grains, fats, fruits, vegtables, meat and honey. That's not a bad place to start, and I'm sure if we'd do just that, health would be improved. But in spite of my search, I can't find any doughnuts, snicker bars, patatoes chips, coke, or even coffee!!!! Do you think the man upstairs is trying to tell me something? So in our quest for heath in life, and especially that abundant life the Lord came to give us; during our feasting, don't forget to feast on the word of God. " Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. " Here's to your health, . BTW, welcome back. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 Hi Gail and all, Regarding polar opposites. The views of both authors are taken from biblical principles! As one always must do...draw you own conclusions! Just another example of the maze of confusion! Be Well! If you discover THE SECRET ...pass it on! dr ron http://www.yahwehsaliveandwell.com/merchantinfo.html http://www.yahwehsaliveandwell.com/scriptures.html versus: http://www.mercola.com/article/Diet/bible_health.htm Re: Oils > > Great! Now I'm totally confused as to who to believe!!! ......so what's new?!? :-) Dear , Welcome to the confused club. Ah, the thirst for knowledge is great, but the well to knowledge is a bottomless pit. One will never know it all. In our search, tho, why not go to the One who does know it all: the Almighty, the all knowing God. > > Practicality and geographic conditions seem to me to dictate that our main sources of fat would be butter, eggs, animal fats, fish, etc. Or maybe I really am just mad!! Well, I would have to say your practicality ain't too shabby! So often we listen to this one and that one and forget what a great commodity we have in simple common sense. In looking at scripture, the fats that are mentioned are: olive oil, butter and even the fatted calf. Don't forget fish. Even in my limited understanding of nutrition, I see in scripture the foods that were eaten were: fish, whole grains, fats, fruits, vegtables, meat and honey. That's not a bad place to start, and I'm sure if we'd do just that, health would be improved. But in spite of my search, I can't find any doughnuts, snicker bars, patatoes chips, coke, or even coffee!!!! Do you think the man upstairs is trying to tell me something? So in our quest for heath in life, and especially that abundant life the Lord came to give us; during our feasting, don't forget to feast on the word of God. " Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. " Here's to your health, . BTW, welcome back. Gail OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 Hi Gail and all, Regarding polar opposites. The views of both authors are taken from biblical principles! As one always must do...draw you own conclusions! Just another example of the maze of confusion! Be Well! If you discover THE SECRET ...pass it on! dr ron http://www.yahwehsaliveandwell.com/merchantinfo.html http://www.yahwehsaliveandwell.com/scriptures.html versus: http://www.mercola.com/article/Diet/bible_health.htm Re: Oils > > Great! Now I'm totally confused as to who to believe!!! ......so what's new?!? :-) Dear , Welcome to the confused club. Ah, the thirst for knowledge is great, but the well to knowledge is a bottomless pit. One will never know it all. In our search, tho, why not go to the One who does know it all: the Almighty, the all knowing God. > > Practicality and geographic conditions seem to me to dictate that our main sources of fat would be butter, eggs, animal fats, fish, etc. Or maybe I really am just mad!! Well, I would have to say your practicality ain't too shabby! So often we listen to this one and that one and forget what a great commodity we have in simple common sense. In looking at scripture, the fats that are mentioned are: olive oil, butter and even the fatted calf. Don't forget fish. Even in my limited understanding of nutrition, I see in scripture the foods that were eaten were: fish, whole grains, fats, fruits, vegtables, meat and honey. That's not a bad place to start, and I'm sure if we'd do just that, health would be improved. But in spite of my search, I can't find any doughnuts, snicker bars, patatoes chips, coke, or even coffee!!!! Do you think the man upstairs is trying to tell me something? So in our quest for heath in life, and especially that abundant life the Lord came to give us; during our feasting, don't forget to feast on the word of God. " Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. " Here's to your health, . BTW, welcome back. Gail OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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