oils

August 8, 2001

Very important to note when studying diet from our race nearly 300 yrs

ago...we've physically evolved since then. Combined and re-combined genetics

from around the globe through global travel and migration. Millions of

modern people also have 9-5 desk jobs, indoors, surrounded by plastics and

chronic toxin exposure, then head straight home to a high-rise apartment,

dinner, couch, then to bed. Several thousand years ago, these people would

have had to wake early, plow, plant and sow the fields, raise the children,

cook meals, MAKE clothes, hunt, build their own house, etc.

My point is, unless you live a very active lifestyle, involving lots of

exercise, be careful following a diet that worked for another culture of

people thousands of years ago. History is a great place to find the basics

of what's good for you and what's not. Also consider nature, and what the

animals eat vs. what their systems are built to handle....and when you start

to head for something made of sugar and or fried till it's nutritionless,

remember that whenever you create imbalance (acidity vs. alkalinity) in your

body...you'll get adverse effects in the form of illness. Most illness we're

suffering from in modern society, arise as a result of imbalance due to poor

nutrition, too much simple sugars, toxins & drugs, lack of exercise, etc.

Just something to think about.

> Hi Gail and all,

> Regarding polar opposites. The views of both authors are taken from

> biblical principles!

> As one always must do...draw you own conclusions!

> Just another example of the maze of confusion!

> Be Well! If you discover THE SECRET ...pass it on!

> dr ron

> http://www.yahwehsaliveandwell.com/merchantinfo.html

> http://www.yahwehsaliveandwell.com/scriptures.html

> versus:

> http://www.mercola.com/article/Diet/bible_health.htm

> l)

w/peace

wes bennett

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August 8, 2001

oops....menat to say 3000 years ago

> Very important to note when studying diet from our race nearly 300 yrs

> ago...we've physically evolved since then. Combined and re-combined

> genetics

> from around the globe through global travel and migration. Millions of

> modern people also have 9-5 desk jobs, indoors, surrounded by plastics and

> chronic toxin exposure, then head straight home to a high-rise apartment,

> dinner, couch, then to bed.

l)

w/peace

wes bennett

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August 8, 2001

Dear ,

I scramble eggs and fry them in butter every once in a while myself.

I don't think that Udo would oppose the occasional foray into this type of

food. It is transfats that he is most opposed to, and with good reason.

I don't think that you can follow what was done in the past as a guide to

what you should eat now. The reason is that your own genetic makeup is

unique. So what your neighbour eats now, or what he ate 100 years ago are

pretty irrelevant. My family has always been big eaters of grains (breads,

baked goods, etc.) and heavy dairy, coming from Russian and then Canadian

farming background. I am allergic to most grains, and eat only a bit of

cheese and sour cream. So even in my own family, the 'common diet' doesn't

work for me.

It is necessary for each person to find what foods work for them. What is

stated in books is only a guide to keep you from eating really bad stuff

(Mc's hamburgers and fries comes to mind). The food that is good for

you has to be searched out, and one of the ways to do this is to travel and

try the food of other cultures. Of course, finding something that works for

you in Borneo, that you can't get in Mother England, is not much help

either.

So don't approach the question of " what to eat " from a historical point of

view, because most of history is bunk (coming from a historian) and people's

prejudices color their perceptions (Margaret Mead in Samoa misunderstood

everything she saw there).

So, avoid trans fats, eat fresh food, cook minimally, drink lots of mineral

water, sleep eight hours, have a goal in life and do regular cleansing. Your

body will take care of the rest.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

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From: " Fitzgerald " <f-m-f-s@...>

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Subject: Re: Oils

Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:07:25 +0100

Dear Saul,

Great! Now I'm totally confused as to who to believe!!! ......so what's

new?!? :-)

Over the last year or so I've been totally convinced with the Weston Price

ideals and the work of the Foundation, largely that of Sally Fallon and

Enig. I've been slowly gearing my nutritional beliefs and diet towards

these ideas, including their comments on fats, and have been working towards

using alot of raw jersey butter, animal fats, eggs, olive oil and flax oil

as my main sources of fats. Almost everyday, for instance, I've been gently

cooking scrambled eggs in butter for breakfast believing it was good. And

now someone else I have faith in, namely YOU, tells me that Enig is

wrong and Udo is right!!

But, just because no one else agrees with Enig does not make her wrong in my

eyes and I don't think you can argue with Weston Price's work and the fact

that the traditional diets worked producing generation after generation of

healthy, strong people. Personally, I have more faith in his kind of

'real-life' studies than I do in the latest thoughts of some crazy

scientist's lab studies. (I'll probably get a backlash for that statement!)

The type of fats in the diet that Enig talks of have been eaten by many

healthy generations of traditional cultures. I admit I've not read his book

and do not know his ideas in detail but can the same be said of Udo's ideas

? I always try to think of what man could naturally eat in the 'real' world

before food processing, industrial and agricultural advances,etc. Could we

realistically grow and produce enough flax or hemp oil for our needs ? Could

we realistically grow olives for oil or any of the vegetable oils, coconut

oils, etc. Practicality and geographic conditions seem to me to dictate

that our main sources of fat would be butter, eggs, animal fats, fish, etc.

Or maybe I really am just mad!! :-) Btw, who's Ray Peat ?

Slowly losing my mind! ;-)

Re: Re: Chains

Jim: It's all in " Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill " , but with my memory

> problems I can't dredge up what the long chains are. *S.

There's long chain fatty acids, and medium chain, and short chain. It

all

relates to the number of carbon atoms, and then there are the

complexities

of bonds, double bonds, and configurations (cis and trans).

The bonding is what makes an oil saturated or unsaturated. Olive oil

is

of

course, monounsaturated. According to Udo, unsaturated fatty acids

are

less

stable and more active chemically than saturated fatty acids. The

saturated fatty acids are considered more stable and inert.

This is a great book...highly readable, but technical as well for

those

who

like to delve into these subjects.

Patty

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