oils

[Guest guest]

Good advice there Art ;-)

I'e got to get some of that emulsidfied cod oil..

[ ] re: oils

A prodcut called Udo's oil, not Lorenzo's oil :-), is supposedly a superior

all around, perfectly balanced oil for us human type bi-pedal persons,

opposable thumbs and all. I tried it but the taste made me turn inside out.

I know, I know, I should buck up and do what a man's gotta do and all that

happy stuff. Well, I'll stick with my good ol' Dale 's Emulsified

(not plain) cod liver oil. Orange or mint flavored. Body seems to like it.

My alt. doctor says to use Carson brand fish liver oil becasue the company

goes to great pains to assure the fish it is taken from are free of mercury

and other toxins.

Art

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In a message dated 9/2/2003 12:27:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

nmcmu6937@... writes:

> Are we supposed to be taking both the olive oil and the flaxseed oil?

>

>

I don't " take " olive oil. I use it in salads with lemon juice and to cook

things instead of using vegetable oil, canola oil, etc. It is HB.

[Guest guest]

<nmcmu6937@...> wrote:Are we supposed to be taking both the olive

oil and the flaxseed oil?

We carry within us the wonders

we seek without us ~ Sir Browne

[Guest guest]

It is not necessarey to supplement with a balanced oil omega supplement.

If you are eating some of the oils you only need to supplement the ones that

are harder to get in your diet or process. The basic issue with the oils is

that our diet is too abundant with the other oils that it puts our omega 3 oils

out of balance to our 6 and 9's. That is the average case but some persons

may have more specific needs for adding the others. High diet in 6 & 9's

drown out the 3's and the body doesn't recognize them in some way.

Some of the omega oils like borage also stimulate female hormone, estrogen.

You might find you need it and you might feel you don't want it. I posted not

too long ago about a need I had for evening of primrose oil or borage but I

could only take it for 1 week and had to stop because of the hormonal

interference.

Taking it for 1 week solved my problem. Taking it every day for a month would

cause additional problems. I don't know how this oil works with our childrens

system. My experience was being a female adult.

I would start with the DHA or fish oils and then consider the need for the other

oils.

Liz D.

oils

I'm about to run out of efas -- I've been giving children's nordic naturals

DHA -- and I was wondering what you guys do for this. Somehow the subject of

oils makes my eyes glassy. Maybe it's all the acronyms. I cook with olive,

safflower, and occasionally coconut oil, but aside from that, who's got a

balanced

supplementing program they're happy with?

Nell

[Guest guest]

So, Chuck, you probably wouldn't recommend buying 2 bottles at once? If I

did, should I also refrig. the unopened one? thanks!

----Original Message Follows----

From: Chuck Blatchley <cblatchl@...>

Reply-hypothyroidism

hypothyroidism

Subject: Re: i wonder why green tea is bad for us?

Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 12:51:32 -0600

Around here, the highest turnover of retail goods is probably at

Walmart. You could also go directly to wholesalers. The idea is to avoid

places where supplements sit on a shelf for a long time. Look for dust.

Chuck

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K a r e n P wrote:

> So, Chuck, you probably wouldn't recommend buying 2 bottles at once? If I

> did, should I also refrig. the unopened one?

Better yet, put it in the freezer. The colder it is, the slower it

oxidizes and racemizes. Sealing is also important to keep oxygen out.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

K a r e n,

You wrote:

> Chuck, what do you think of this?

>

> http://www.oliveoilnews.com/cooking_olive_oil.htm

>

I think we need to be sure to read all the way to the bottom of the

article. The question you copied involves the one time use of olive oil

in cooking. Since this is a short term process, Dr. Kiritsakis is quite

right in saying that this only produces a small amount of trans fatty

acids.

Long term storage is another matter, although olive oil is still more

resistant than most vegetable cooking oils. At room temperatures,

oxidation and enzymatic degradation continue at a steady rate, one which

is accelerated by light. Consequently, I would still store any food oil

in the refrigerator, including olive oil.

Here's the part from the bottom of the article:

Dear : Olive Oil can be stored in containers as mundane as

plastic or as indestructible as stainless steel. Researchers have shown

that oil stored in polyethylene bottles exposed to light can develop

unacceptable limits of peroxide in as little as 20 days, while if stored

in the dark it can last 120-190 days.

[You need to ask yourself how long you usually keep olive oil. We use it

a lot, but I am sure some of it is around for more than four months,

hence my concern. - Chuck]

Oil deteriorates through the action of lipase and other enzymes in the

oil and the action of oxygen. Oxidation or rancidity speeds up with

light and heat exposure. Keeping your oil next to the stove will quickly

age it. Better to keep a large container in a dark, cool cupboard and

pour a small amount into a dispenser for everyday use. Olive oil can be

put into the refrigerator or freezer without harm, which will greatly

extend its shelf life. Waxes in the oil may crystallize out into

needles or a slurry when the oil is chilled. Warming the oil back to

room temperature will re-liquefy it.

" Auto-oxidation " occurs in the absence of air and is prevented by

natural anti-oxidants in the oil. Oil from green olives have higher

levels of anti-oxidants and some varieties naturally have higher levels

than others. Blending an oil high in antioxidants with one which is

lower can greatly extend its shelf life. Auto-oxidation proceeds slowly

until all anti-oxidants are used up at which time the oil quickly

becomes rancid. This can happen in 1 to 3 years depending on oil

storage conditions and variety. This is why an old oil will taste fine

when first exposed to the air but a few weeks later can taste old and

oxidized, whereas a new oil will last for months after opening.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the comments below Duncan. It made me read a few hours last

night about saturated vs unsaturated oils. Olive and coconut oil for me!

> Re: RE: Meat

>

> > As these changes happened, meat consumption

> > increased dramatically -- and so did degenerative diseases like

> > cancer, heart disease, and diabetes.

>

> The fella who wrote that has a vegan agenda. The facts do not support

> his view.

>

> Heart disease is caused by pourable oils, which came into vogue

....clip...

[Guest guest]

Be sure to keep your coconut oil at 20-30% for best results. It can be

drying.

for best lather, the coconut is good and castor is great for lather.

harder bar... plam or beef tallow,lard

moisture...olive oil, soybean

if you want a super rich conditioning & moisturizing bar.... look into adding

Cocoa Butter, Shea Butter, Almond oil, Hemp oil, Jojoba

of course there are tons more oils... it would take all day to list their

properties... I just gave you a spring board to start from.. a lot of soap sites

will list each oil and what properties they will impart to your soap. good

luck.

[Guest guest]

Hello Bethany

In terms of your Orange EO in CP, I use orange powder with any

citrus EO's to help them " fix " in the CP soap. Soemtimes the

saponification process can overwhelm the more " sensitive " eo's. A

little Lemongrass EO helps fix too, and smells great. I scent my CP

soaps at 3% of the total weight of the recipe (I like strong

scents!).

Some of the essential oils that are inexpensive and I think you

should have would be:

Lavender 40/42

Eucalytpus

Lemongrass

Peppermint

For a good lather this is my basic CP soap percentage:

44% coconut

38% palm

18% olive

Hope this helps you

-david

www.thebubbleroome.com

[Guest guest]

Bethany

You will need to add " coconut oil in the 20 % range " to get the lather in

soap.

You could add a tad " castor oil' for lather, but too much makes a very Soft

bar that melts down fast as you bathe.

You can get Olive OIl at Sam's Club, Costco, BJ's or order online.

Pomace olive oil is the least expensive, and usually sold by soap suppliers

and in my opinion a much lesser quality -than regular olive oil since it is

processed with hexane a harsh chemical and is made from the olives themselves,

or the last press. .

Ricebran oil is also an inexpensive oil but it IS a quality oil.

Soybean, although less expensive, often causes soap to become rancid as it

ages.

I generally save lard and shortening for use as a laundry soap,

If you want a a quality soap that is Good for your skin, my suggestion would

be 50% olive oil or a combo of olive and ricebran oil

25 % palm oil [ for firmness and hardness and long lasting soap

20 % coconut oil [ for lather and hardness]

5 % cocoa or shea butter [ for added moisturizer and creamy feel]

You can use less expensive oils if you like but in I think you get a very low

quality soap that is not very kind or healthy to your skin, so one might just

as well go purchase commercial soap as to make soap from inferior and low

quality oils. My two cents worth.

There is a little booklet on my website that explains oils and written by

Zeiteck Labs, which tells you the various properties of oils, which is so

important to making soap, creams, lotions, etc that are healthy for your skin.

Just click on the Free Download page and download the file to your computer to

read and print out. It is in .pdf format so you need Adobe to read it and that

is free at www.adobe.com if you do not have it on your computer. Files written

in .pdf format are VIRUS free files.

my URL for my website is below my signature

hope this helps, Sherry

Natural Care E-books, booklets, spreadsheets

www.herbalsoap-healingcreams.com

[Guest guest]

>

> In terms of your Orange EO in CP, I use orange powder with any

> citrus EO's to help them " fix " in the CP soap.

Where do you get orange powder and how much do you use? --Donna

[Guest guest]

I use about 1 tbsp per pound of soap, and mix it with my EO's in a

16oz pyrex. Then at trace I'll put some of the traced soap in the

pyrex, mix the powder, EO's and soap, and add it back into the big

soap pot.

-david

www.thebubbleroome.com

> >

> > In terms of your Orange EO in CP, I use orange powder with any

> > citrus EO's to help them " fix " in the CP soap.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I read this for years about the omega 6 overload. When we finally had

our daughter tested, she was very low in omega 6's. To this day, she

can only tolerate EPO topically. Other suggested supps for low 6's

cause her great difficulty. I would be careful about supplementing

without some baseline testing.

-- In , " Roe " <roemygosh@...> wrote:

>

> I would suggest sticking with only Omega 3 oil, such as Flaxseed or

> CLO (Nordic naturals that is ONLY Omega3). The biggest problem is

> that our bodys' EFA balance is off. It is typically high in Omega

6

> & 9 and not enough Omega 3. So we only supplement Omega 3 EFA

> (which is cod liver or flax). Canola oil has both 6 & 9 (refer to

> Edo's page on oils for amounts).

>

> Multi vitamins are not assorbed well, whole food supplements should

> be used instead. I will post an article on that...

> Roe

>

>

> >

> > Listmates,

> > Thanks for the enlightening info regarding canola oil. We do not

> heat

> > it, however, it is given straigth from the bottle mixed with a

> little

> > yogurt for drinkability. They take it pretty well. I am noticing

> that

> > my twins' dry skin in coming back. They have very sensitive skin

> and

> > cracking peeling between the toes. It had gone away on CLO and

> omega

> > (nordic). They seem to be tolerating it ok, althouh I think I may

> > reintroduce the CLO in small amounts after I get the supps under

> > control. Is a multi necessary if the child is on assorted

vitamins

> and

> > supps?

> > mb

> >

>

[Guest guest]

True! Levels need to be balanced! This isn't known without testing

(which we had had done). In general, omega 6 & 9 are high, and

omega 3 are low, but this isn't always the case (as pointed out)!

Edo also suggests that after one IS balanced, then they switch to a

balanced oil blend. You don't want to be too high in Omega 3 either!

Roe

> > >

> > > Listmates,

> > > Thanks for the enlightening info regarding canola oil. We do

not

> > heat

> > > it, however, it is given straigth from the bottle mixed with a

> > little

> > > yogurt for drinkability. They take it pretty well. I am

noticing

> > that

> > > my twins' dry skin in coming back. They have very sensitive

skin

> > and

> > > cracking peeling between the toes. It had gone away on CLO and

> > omega

> > > (nordic). They seem to be tolerating it ok, althouh I think I

may

> > > reintroduce the CLO in small amounts after I get the supps

under

> > > control. Is a multi necessary if the child is on assorted

> vitamins

> > and

> > > supps?

> > > mb

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Do you know the name of the test and what kind of doctor you had perform it?

[ ] Re: oils

> I read this for years about the omega 6 overload. When we finally had

> our daughter tested, she was very low in omega 6's. To this day, she

> can only tolerate EPO topically. Other suggested supps for low 6's

> cause her great difficulty. I would be careful about supplementing

> without some baseline testing.

>

>

> -- In , " Roe " <roemygosh@...> wrote:

> >

> > I would suggest sticking with only Omega 3 oil, such as Flaxseed or

> > CLO (Nordic naturals that is ONLY Omega3). The biggest problem is

> > that our bodys' EFA balance is off. It is typically high in Omega

> 6

> > & 9 and not enough Omega 3. So we only supplement Omega 3 EFA

> > (which is cod liver or flax). Canola oil has both 6 & 9 (refer to

> > Edo's page on oils for amounts).

> >

> > Multi vitamins are not assorbed well, whole food supplements should

> > be used instead. I will post an article on that...

> > Roe

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Listmates,

> > > Thanks for the enlightening info regarding canola oil. We do not

> > heat

> > > it, however, it is given straigth from the bottle mixed with a

> > little

> > > yogurt for drinkability. They take it pretty well. I am noticing

> > that

> > > my twins' dry skin in coming back. They have very sensitive skin

> > and

> > > cracking peeling between the toes. It had gone away on CLO and

> > omega

> > > (nordic). They seem to be tolerating it ok, althouh I think I may

> > > reintroduce the CLO in small amounts after I get the supps under

> > > control. Is a multi necessary if the child is on assorted

> vitamins

> > and

> > > supps?

> > > mb

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I have been using Extra Virgin Olive Oil on salads, home made mayo,

> etc. but I really don't like the taste of it at all.

>

> Is there any other oil I can use to replace the Extra Virgin Olive Oil?

>

==> Lynn, you can make mayo with coconut oil - do a search on my new

website.

Bee

[Guest guest]

All excellent oils, and a good choice.

the best oils for food use:

1. coconut

2. virgin olive oil

3. butter

4. Animals fats. (optional) Fish oils are good.

5. nut oils

>

> I eat primarily coconut oil - I believe in its healing abilities and

it is an antifungal. That is ALL i cook with. I also use it on my

skin and also as a lube! I also eat SMALL amount of olive oil now

and then, but I do not cook with it. Then there are the oils that are

in the occasional nuts or in my organic peanut butter. That's about

it!

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What about clairified butter, I hope it's ok, because it tastes awesome - very

nutty

Elaine Gallant <elainegallant@...> wrote:

All excellent oils, and a good choice.

the best oils for food use:

1. coconut

2. virgin olive oil

3. butter

4. Animals fats. (optional) Fish oils are good.

5. nut oils

>

> I eat primarily coconut oil - I believe in its healing abilities and

it is an antifungal. That is ALL i cook with. I also use it on my

skin and also as a lube! I also eat SMALL amount of olive oil now

and then, but I do not cook with it. Then there are the oils that are

in the occasional nuts or in my organic peanut butter. That's about

it!

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think the oils Elaine gave are good but not in order by biological

preference. Preferentially they should be saturated animal fats and

butter, wild fish oils, coconut oil, then virgin olive oil, with the

other vegetable oils lower down competing for indistinction or

skipped completely.

Duncan

> >

> > I eat primarily coconut oil - I believe in its healing abilities

and

> it is an antifungal. That is ALL i cook with. I also use it on my

> skin and also as a lube! I also eat SMALL amount of olive oil

now

> and then, but I do not cook with it. Then there are the oils that

are

> in the occasional nuts or in my organic peanut butter. That's

about

> it!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

> >

> > I eat primarily coconut oil - I believe in its healing abilities

and

> it is an antifungal. That is ALL i cook with. I also use it on my

> skin and also as a lube! I also eat SMALL amount of olive oil

now

> and then, but I do not cook with it. Then there are the oils that

are

> in the occasional nuts or in my organic peanut butter. That's

about

> it!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Many experts don't recommend canola oil, and suggest avoiding it if at all

possible.

http://www.mercola.com/2002/aug/14/con_ola1.htm

~

oils

can anyone tell me if expeller pressed canola oil and

safflower oil safe?

I found natural cantina chips by garden of eatin made

with organic white corn.

Does this sound like a good candida product to eat or

does the white corn make it not a choice for candida?

any suggestions? They must be a no no because they

taste great. 18 g of carbs n 5 grams of fat with 1

saturated fat.

Sue

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[Guest guest]

Sue, I can tell you from long term experience that corn of any kind in

any shape or form is one of the WORST things for candida. I think it

is one of its favorite foods. And YES, if it tastes good and you have

a craving for it, leave it alone when it comes to suspicious type foods.

Steph

[Guest guest]

>

> Are organic fish oils and flax seed oils ok?

>

Hi There. What is your name please?

You need to read my main article " How to Successfully Overcome Candida "

which answers questions you are asking:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu2_8.php

I'm sorry I don't have more time to explain tonight.

The best to you, Bee

[Guest guest]

Fish oil in the summer and cod liver oil in the winter (higher vitamin D

content). Flax oil is not recommended due to its omega 6 content I believe.

a