Re: How to persuade Dr. to test electrolytes?

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Sodium and potassium are regulated pretty much by the adrneal hormones.

Adrenals can be weak and underfunctioning in low thyroid people.

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Thanks

Really hoping to have these electrolytes results to give you next month

Hope your well

Josie

To: RT3_T3 From: artisticgroomer@...Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 06:52:29 -0400Subject: Re: How to persuade Dr. to test electrolytes?

Sodium and potassium are regulated pretty much by the adrneal hormones. Adrenals can be weak and underfunctioning in low thyroid people.-- http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/http://nthadrenalsweb.org/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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Have you had your yearly check up? Every doc I've ever had has done full blood work up including electrolytes. The doc works for you, not the other way around and it's not like you're asking him for heart surgery, it's a simple test and you have every right to know what your electrolytes are doing...it's your body. I'm not sure what kind of insurance you have Josie but even on the worst HMO I was on, the doc had no issue doing reasonable blood tests and electrolytes are a reasonable request. I found this online, maybe it will help you;-) I just copied a small portion, the web link is below for more info.http://www.healthline.com/galecontent/electrolyte-testsPurposeTests that measure the concentration of electrolytes are useful in the emergency room and to obtain clues for the diagnosis of specific diseases.Electrolyte tests are used for diagnosing dietary deficiencies, excess loss of nutrients due to urination, vomiting, and diarrhea, or abnormal shifts in the location of an electrolyte within the body. When an abnormal electrolyte value is detected, the physician may either act to immediately correct the imbalance directly (in the case of an emergency) or run further tests to determine the underlying cause of the abnormal electrolyte value. Electrolyte disturbances can occur with malfunctioning of the kidney (renal failure), infections that produce severe and continual diarrhea or vomiting, drugs that cause loss of electrolytes in the urine (diuretics), poisoning due to accidental consumption of electrolytes, or diseases involving hormones that regulate electrolyte concentrations.PrecautionsElectrolyte tests are performed from routine blood tests. The techniques are simple, automated, and fairly uniform throughout the United States. During the preparation of blood plasma or serum, health workers must take care not to break the red blood cells, especially when testing for serum potassium. Because the concentration of potassium within red blood cells is much higher than in the surrounding plasma or serum, broken cells would cause falsely elevated potassium levels.<<Posted by: "Josie " josiemiller@... josie_miller7Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:48 am (PDT)Dear Amazing group,My GP has refused to test my electrolytes as he says there is no connection between them and the thyroid. Im going to write to him and ask again. Would someone be able to help me understand the 'science' behind why its really useful to know my sod and pot levels so I can put it in the letter. From reading people's messages it seems vital to know electrolytes levels so am desperate to have mine testedThank you thank you thank you thank you thank you! Josiex>> Kem in Eugene <º)))><

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>I'm not sure what kind of

>insurance you have Josie but even on the worst HMO I was on, the doc

>had no issue doing reasonable blood tests and electrolytes are a

>reasonable request. I found this online, maybe it will help you;-) I

>just copied a small portion, the web link is below for more info.

She's in Britain dealing with the National Health Service!!

Nick

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Dear Kem,

Thank you so much for your message-it's really helpful. Unfortunately I live in the UK and this is typical of the NHS. You are so right his response when I asked for electrolytes was as if I had asked him to perform open heart surgery then and there!

Thanks so much for taking the time to copy that info for me

Josie

To: RT3_T3 From: Losinit4good@...Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 23:28:24 -0700Subject: Re: How to persuade Dr. to test electrolytes?

Have you had your yearly check up? Every doc I've ever had has done full blood work up including electrolytes. The doc works for you, not the other way around and it's not like you're asking him for heart surgery, it's a simple test and you have every right to know what your electrolytes are doing...it's your body. I'm not sure what kind of insurance you have Josie but even on the worst HMO I was on, the doc had no issue doing reasonable blood tests and electrolytes are a reasonable request. I found this online, maybe it will help you;-) I just copied a small portion, the web link is below for more info.

http://www.healthline.com/galecontent/electrolyte-tests

Purpose

Tests that measure the concentration of electrolytes are useful in the emergency room and to obtain clues for the diagnosis of specific diseases.Electrolyte tests are used for diagnosing dietary deficiencies, excess loss of nutrients due to urination, vomiting, and diarrhea, or abnormal shifts in the location of an electrolyte within the body. When an abnormal electrolyte value is detected, the physician may either act to immediately correct the imbalance directly (in the case of an emergency) or run further tests to determine the underlying cause of the abnormal electrolyte value. Electrolyte disturbances can occur with malfunctioning of the kidney (renal failure), infections that produce severe and continual diarrhea or vomiting, drugs that cause loss of electrolytes in the urine (diuretics), poisoning due to accidental consumption of electrolytes, or diseases involving hormones that regulate electrolyte concentrations.

Precautions

Electrolyte tests are performed from routine blood tests. The techniques are simple, automated, and fairly uniform throughout the United States. During the preparation of blood plasma or serum, health workers must take care not to break the red blood cells, especially when testing for serum potassium. Because the concentration of potassium within red blood cells is much higher than in the surrounding plasma or serum, broken cells would cause falsely elevated potassium levels.

<<Posted by: "Josie " josiemillerlive (DOT) co.uk josie_miller7

Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:48 am (PDT)

Dear Amazing group,My GP has refused to test my electrolytes as he says there is no connection between them and the thyroid. Im going to write to him and ask again. Would someone be able to help me understand the 'science' behind why its really useful to know my sod and pot levels so I can put it in the letter. From reading people's messages it seems vital to know electrolytes levels so am desperate to have mine testedThank you thank you thank you thank you thank you! Josiex>>

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Josie, can you talk to the doc and ask him to order the tests and tell him you'll pay for them out of pocket? It sounds absurd there would be an issue with testing electrolytes, it's such a basic need and request. Maybe if doc is concerned the NHS would question him if he ordered and they had to pay then he'd be more apt to order if you assured him you would pay the bill. It seems it'd just be him filling out a simple piece of paper and you taking it to the blood labs to be tested and pay them on the spot. NHS wouldn't have to know about it. Surely there's a way. When I asked my doc to run an RT3 test (which is not a usual request) she had no problem with it, guess she figured if my insurance didn't pay then I'd be liable for the bill.<<Posted by: "Josie " josiemiller@... josie_miller7Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:07 am (PDT)Dear Kem,Thank you so much for your message-it's really helpful. Unfortunately I live in the UK and this is typical of the NHS. You are so right his response when I asked for electrolytes was as if I had asked him to perform open heart surgery then and there!Thanks so much for taking the time to copy that info for meJosie>> Kem in Eugene <º)))><