Guest guest Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 > > > > >97.8, 98.0,98.0, 97.9, 97.9, 97.8,97.8, 97.7, 97.9 > > They are within 0.2 of each other from day to day which says adrenals > are adequately supported. > > They also say you are hypo > > > > > >pulse 88, 88, 84, 100, 7.9, 84,76 > > > were your activity levels different or was this all resting and > sitting? I was sitting when I took them and at rest > > >I don;t think I can continue to raise the T3. I am wasting away to nothing. > > T3 at correct levels won't cause you to waste away. Have you had sex > hormone levels tested?? Low testosterone causes low muscle tone BUT > it's a gradual process I am on testosterone that is why loosing so much muscle is bothering me > > > >How do I add armour to the already > >12.5, 12.5, 12.5, 12.5 and 6.5 > > > you can replace 12.5 with a grain of Natural, I don't recommend Armour > unless they have reformulated again and got it right, the new Armour > 12 moths ago left me in a mess. I have not been able to find nature thyroidff > > After replacing 12.5 you will need to drop another 12.5 a week or two > later as the T4 builds up and starts converting. > > If you don't find yourself going more towards hyper then it may be > going to RT3 instead. I do feel very hyper....88 pulse is high for me. I am normally 76 or lower > > The phased swap process is on here > > http://thyroid-rt3.com/swapping.htm > > >cortef. > > > >I had to lower the cortef because the symtoms were so bad. Blowing up like a > >ballon. > >7 1/2, 5, 5, 2 1/2 2 1/2 > > You must have been on too much then, temperatures are stable now so > it's still enough. > > you can drop at 2.5 each week until temperatures go unstable and then > go back up 1 step > > > >The pain in my hips seems to go away when I add the T4 and get extreme when I go > >to high on T3 > > again this is very strange The pain is always so bad in my legs and hips. I can barely sit sometimes. It is horrible. The pain has steadly increased as I raised the T3.... > > > >I really need help with this whole picure. > > See whether the T4 does help or not and we can work out what's going > on > I will let you know. Unfortunatley, I had to add 12.5 synthroid with the T3...I did not tolerate the armour when it was the old stuff. Thank you for your help and shedding some light. I do appreciate what you and do and know this is a lot of work for you guys Ellen > Nick > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 > >I was sitting when I took them and at rest Then something is going on to give the odd pulse patterns This can often be low sodium, have you got electrolyte results? Have you tried the sea salted water test?? > >I am on testosterone that is why loosing so much muscle is bothering me Have you had recent labs to confirm that the levels are building up???? > > >I have not been able to find nature thyroidff Erfa (from Canada), Thyroid S, or Greater Pharma (From Thailand) are all good and readily available mail order > > >I do feel very hyper....88 pulse is high for me. I am normally 76 or lower You are not hyper with those temperatures, it might be " too much T3 for your ferritin/adrenals to cope with " but it's not hyper My gut feeling is you are producing adrenaline and that may be why you are losing weight >The pain is always so bad in my legs and hips. I can barely sit sometimes. It is horrible. The pain has steadly increased as I raised the T3.... > That is very strange, there is something causing you to not tolerate the T3 and adding T4 won't help that, it will only make it worse. >> >I will let you know. Unfortunatley, I had to add 12.5 synthroid with the T3...I did not tolerate the armour when it was the old stuff. Same again, ferritin/adrenals >Thank you for your help and shedding some light. > >I do appreciate what you and do and know this is a lot of work for you guys Difficult to know what's going on I'm afraid I don't think T4 will fix it though Nick -- for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to www.thyroid-rt3.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 My testostoron is a gel and I take it 2 -3 time a week. I take 2 drops of estrogen a day and 1 of progesteron every 3 or 4 days. My levels will be checked in July. But a few months ago all my levels was good. I don't have those tests. Thanks > > > > > > androgens are your sex hormones, testosterone, progesterone, estrogen. I am not certain what ones are the correct tests though > > > > > > Kitty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 > >My testostoron is a gel and I take it 2 -3 time a week. I take 2 drops of estrogen a day and 1 of progesteron every 3 or 4 days. My levels will be checked in July. It might be worth checking sooner that you don't need an increaase as getting thyroid levels to normal does affect SHBG and hence may require an adjustment of sex hormones > But a few months ago all my levels was good. I don't have those tests. Were you on T3 at the time?? Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 I was sitting when I took them and at rest > > Then something is going on to give the odd pulse patterns > > This can often be low sodium, have you got electrolyte results? > > Have you tried the sea salted water test?? I take sea salt but do not know what the salted water test is > > > > >I am on testosterone that is why loosing so much muscle is bothering me > > Have you had recent labs to confirm that the levels are building > up???? > > > > > >I have not been able to find nature thyroidff > > Erfa (from Canada), Thyroid S, or Greater Pharma (From Thailand) are > all good and readily available mail order > > > > > >I do feel very hyper....88 pulse is high for me. I am normally 76 or lower > > You are not hyper with those temperatures, it might be " too much T3 > for your ferritin/adrenals to cope with " but it's not hyper > > My gut feeling is you are producing adrenaline and that may be why you > are losing weight My ferritan is 171. Why would I be producing adrenaline > > >The pain is always so bad in my legs and hips. I can barely sit sometimes. It is horrible. The pain has steadly increased as I raised the T3.... > > > > That is very strange, there is something causing you to not tolerate > the T3 and adding T4 won't help that, it will only make it worse. > >> > >I will let you know. Unfortunatley, I had to add 12.5 synthroid with the T3...I did not tolerate the armour when it was the old stuff. > > Same again, ferritin/adrenals But my temps show that my adrenals are stable > > >Thank you for your help and shedding some light. > > > >I do appreciate what you and do and know this is a lot of work for you guys > Difficult to know what's going on I'm afraid > > I don't think T4 will fix it though > My pain is settling down since I added T4 but in gives me a lot of stomach problems. Thanks Ellen > Nick > > -- > > for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to > > www.thyroid-rt3.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 >I take sea salt but do not know what the salted water test is > Described here http://thyroid-rt3.com/electrol.htm It's seeing whether additional salted water reduces pulse >My ferritan is 171. Why would I be producing adrenaline If we knew the answers to all the pieces in your puzzle we would let you know. I'm running through possibilities, hopefully one of the questions will raise an " ah hah " in your mind. Could that high ferritin be due to inflammation?? > Have you had a full iron panel done and posted the results for Val to comment on? > >But my temps show that my adrenals are stable Yes, I don't know what's going on > >My pain is settling down since I added T4 but in gives me a lot of stomach problems. There is something odd happening Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2010 Report Share Posted March 26, 2010 My testostoron is a gel and I take it 2 -3 time a week. Just curious, what is the dose on the testosterone? How many mg in each dose? S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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