Guest guest Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Gotcha I didn't test aldosterone until I'd been on HC for about 5 months, so I don't know if it was already low or if it became so after being on HC. I didn't get the symptoms until around the time I had it tested though. I'll shoot you a private email with my potassium source. Hope you get those RT3 results soon! ~Rainbow~ 30 year old Female 5'6 " 136lbs Dx: Hashi's, AF, Wheat Sensitivity Rx/OTC: Cynomel 75mcg, HC 27.5mg, Florinef 1tab, Potassium 90mEq, Sea Salt 3/4tsp My Log and Labs: http://tinyurl.com/pvgjmb My Blog: http://hyporainbow.wordpress.com > > My aldosterone was tested before I started anything, so before HC, yes I am now taking 45mg of HC and 3/4 tab of florinef. Also take 20MEQ potassium <1/2 tab am and pm>, 1 1/2 grains thyroid-s and 12.5mcg cytomel. I am currently waiting on RT3 labs to see if I need to do just T3. I am seriously hypothyroid right now Definitely made worse since the HC but I expected that to happen > > As a side question, where do you get your potassium? The source I have would be awful expensive if I start to need higher doses! > > Kitty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 My aldosterone started out at 4 <range <=21 > with all the great symptoms. I think it got worse on the HC but has definitely gotten better with the florinef. The RT3 test takes 3-5 business days they tell me so hopefully the next day or two. I had it done last Friday. Thanks in advance for the source! Hope it isn't the one I have, they now require a script kitty To: RT3_T3 Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 8:28:28 PMSubject: Re: elecrtolytes Gotcha I didn't test aldosterone until I'd been on HC for about 5 months, so I don't know if it was already low or if it became so after being on HC. I didn't get the symptoms until around the time I had it tested though.I'll shoot you a private email with my potassium source. Hope you get those RT3 results soon!~Rainbow~30 year old Female 5'6" 136lbsDx: Hashi's, AF, Wheat SensitivityRx/OTC: Cynomel 75mcg, HC 27.5mg, Florinef 1tab, Potassium 90mEq, Sea Salt 3/4tspMy Log and Labs: http://tinyurl. com/pvgjmbMy Blog: http://hyporainbow. wordpress. com>> My aldosterone was tested before I started anything, so before HC, yes I am now taking 45mg of HC and 3/4 tab of florinef. Also take 20MEQ potassium <1/2 tab am and pm>, 1 1/2 grains thyroid-s and 12.5mcg cytomel. I am currently waiting on RT3 labs to see if I need to do just T3. I am seriously hypothyroid right now Definitely made worse since the HC but I expected that to happen > > As a side question, where do you get your potassium? The source I have would be awful expensive if I start to need higher doses!> > Kitty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 My aldosterone started out at 4 <range <=21 > with all the great symptoms. I think it got worse on the HC but has definitely gotten better with the florinef. The RT3 test takes 3-5 business days they tell me so hopefully the next day or two. I had it done last Friday. Thanks in advance for the source! Hope it isn't the one I have, they now require a script kitty To: RT3_T3 Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 8:28:28 PMSubject: Re: elecrtolytes Gotcha I didn't test aldosterone until I'd been on HC for about 5 months, so I don't know if it was already low or if it became so after being on HC. I didn't get the symptoms until around the time I had it tested though.I'll shoot you a private email with my potassium source. Hope you get those RT3 results soon!~Rainbow~30 year old Female 5'6" 136lbsDx: Hashi's, AF, Wheat SensitivityRx/OTC: Cynomel 75mcg, HC 27.5mg, Florinef 1tab, Potassium 90mEq, Sea Salt 3/4tspMy Log and Labs: http://tinyurl. com/pvgjmbMy Blog: http://hyporainbow. wordpress. com>> My aldosterone was tested before I started anything, so before HC, yes I am now taking 45mg of HC and 3/4 tab of florinef. Also take 20MEQ potassium <1/2 tab am and pm>, 1 1/2 grains thyroid-s and 12.5mcg cytomel. I am currently waiting on RT3 labs to see if I need to do just T3. I am seriously hypothyroid right now Definitely made worse since the HC but I expected that to happen > > As a side question, where do you get your potassium? The source I have would be awful expensive if I start to need higher doses!> > Kitty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 My aldosterone started out at 4 <range <=21 > with all the great symptoms. I think it got worse on the HC but has definitely gotten better with the florinef. The RT3 test takes 3-5 business days they tell me so hopefully the next day or two. I had it done last Friday. Thanks in advance for the source! Hope it isn't the one I have, they now require a script kitty To: RT3_T3 Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 8:28:28 PMSubject: Re: elecrtolytes Gotcha I didn't test aldosterone until I'd been on HC for about 5 months, so I don't know if it was already low or if it became so after being on HC. I didn't get the symptoms until around the time I had it tested though.I'll shoot you a private email with my potassium source. Hope you get those RT3 results soon!~Rainbow~30 year old Female 5'6" 136lbsDx: Hashi's, AF, Wheat SensitivityRx/OTC: Cynomel 75mcg, HC 27.5mg, Florinef 1tab, Potassium 90mEq, Sea Salt 3/4tspMy Log and Labs: http://tinyurl. com/pvgjmbMy Blog: http://hyporainbow. wordpress. com>> My aldosterone was tested before I started anything, so before HC, yes I am now taking 45mg of HC and 3/4 tab of florinef. Also take 20MEQ potassium <1/2 tab am and pm>, 1 1/2 grains thyroid-s and 12.5mcg cytomel. I am currently waiting on RT3 labs to see if I need to do just T3. I am seriously hypothyroid right now Definitely made worse since the HC but I expected that to happen > > As a side question, where do you get your potassium? The source I have would be awful expensive if I start to need higher doses!> > Kitty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Passing out does not sound fun. Hope you continue to make progress in that regard! Kitty, I'm hoping my Florinef arrives soon and that it makes a difference in making my BP normal as opposed to nudging into high, that's for sure. I didn't have a BP monitor until a few days ago, though in recent years it's been edging higher when I had physicals. I'm on high Isocort -- 42.5 mg, and waiting impatiently for Cortef to arrive too. Lots of hypoadrenal symptoms, though I wake up hyperalert, sometimes racing pulse, not sweating though -- the hyperness is not as bad as it used to be. I've cleared RT3 already, and a month ago, my sleep seemed to be improving -- I'd wake up at 5 instead of at my normal 3 am, but this recent development is not fun -- trying to find ways to put myself back to sleep is a challenge. My husband says I should go work out and get myself tired out, but that's not what the prevailing advice is here. As long as I have hopes the BP will come under control with Florinef, I will try to keep calm about it. Sex hormones are fine -- something my naturopath has been working with for 2-3 years. If anything they are on the high side. Jeanne > > > > weak adrenals just don't produce enough of it. The cortex of the adrenals make aldosterone. Just like cortisol production can go down so can aldosterone and sex hormones. Not sure of the why of it. I just know my aldosterone tanked and was at 4 <range <=21 >typically if you have low aldo you crave a lot of salt and have BP issues. > > > > Kitty > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ ...> > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 1:53:27 PM > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes > > > >  > > ok, so what is throwing of the aldosterone? > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com> > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:00:21 AM > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes > > > >  > > For many with adrenal issues it is the aldosterone levels that get off. Aldosterone is what regulates sodium and potassium. > > > > Kitty > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ rocketmail. com> > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 12:44:09 PM > > Subject: elecrtolytes > > > >  > > What is throwing everyones electrolytes off? High levels of t3 or HC? S > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 I was passing out a lot if I got up fast from sleeping, especially when my ferritin was in the single digits... Even now I have to sit up for a bit before standing. It has gotten better though and I am sure I need to continue to increase the florinef, most need a full tab at least but you have to raise it slowly. 42.5mg of isocort? How many tabs is that? I opted against the isocort due to potential allergy issues with the other ingredients. I wake up exhausted... drag myself around for a few hours... tired and miserable until 6pm and then don't want to go to bed... yeay low cortisol! I also wake up a lot during the night, sweat horribly.... not sure how to fix that. Working out... not recommended unfortunately. I seriously miss it! I used to work out religiously... I am waiting on blood work to see if I have an RT3 issue or not and have to repeat my iron panel to see if that is actually a problem. Came back high-ish with really low ferritin, but now I am learning it can be pernicious anemia? Why not... just keep adding things I guess! I have really poor digestion and several autoimmune issues so it wouldn't surprise me. Well HC and florinef can both lower sex hormones so maybe they will become more balanced? I need to have mine checked. Some people develope higher BP with florinef so definitely monitor it. Physicals aren't always the best place to monitor your BP though, especially if you get nervous/excited like me. I have BP 100/60, 90/50 at times but usually normal BP at the doc since I get all flustered. Once it was 100/40 at the doc though felt like a wet noodle that day! Kitty To: RT3_T3 Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:34:02 PMSubject: Re: elecrtolytes Passing out does not sound fun. Hope you continue to make progress in that regard!Kitty,I'm hoping my Florinef arrives soon and that it makes a difference in making my BP normal as opposed to nudging into high, that's for sure. I didn't have a BP monitor until a few days ago, though in recent years it's been edging higher when I had physicals.I'm on high Isocort -- 42.5 mg, and waiting impatiently for Cortef to arrive too. Lots of hypoadrenal symptoms, though I wake up hyperalert, sometimes racing pulse, not sweating though -- the hyperness is not as bad as it used to be. I've cleared RT3 already, and a month ago, my sleep seemed to be improving -- I'd wake up at 5 instead of at my normal 3 am, but this recent development is not fun -- trying to find ways to put myself back to sleep is a challenge. My husband says I should go work out and get myself tired out, but that's not what the prevailing advice is here.As long as I have hopes the BP will come under control with Florinef, I will try to keep calm about it.Sex hormones are fine -- something my naturopath has been working with for 2-3 years. If anything they are on the high side.Jeanne> >> > weak adrenals just don't produce enough of it. The cortex of the adrenals make aldosterone. Just like cortisol production can go down so can aldosterone and sex hormones. Not sure of the why of it. I just know my aldosterone tanked and was at 4 <range <=21 >typically if you have low aldo you crave a lot of salt and have BP issues.> > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ ...>> > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 1:53:27 PM> > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes> > > >  > > ok, so what is throwing of the aldosterone?> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com>> > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:00:21 AM> > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes> > > >  > > For many with adrenal issues it is the aldosterone levels that get off. Aldosterone is what regulates sodium and potassium.> > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ rocketmail. com>> > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 12:44:09 PM> > Subject: elecrtolytes> > > >  > > What is throwing everyones electrolytes off? High levels of t3 or HC? S> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 I've heard I need a quarter tab Florinef and raise by a quarter weekly. Correct? I promise I'll watch BP -- finally went and bought a monitor. I take 27 per day. My naturopath can't prescribe HC and I can readily get Isocort, so that's what I've done and the naturopath wasn't worried about allergies, so I've continued as is -- but I will be glad to get actual HC, if it EVER comes! I don't wake up that tired, which is the weird thing. I guess it says something about my RT3 being cleared and being something close to the right dose HC. I don't usually feel good all day long, but usually some part of every day. Pernicious anemia. I hope not. You already have your hands full. I AM tired now and heading to bed soon here on the West Coast... Good night, Jeanne > > > > > > weak adrenals just don't produce enough of it. The cortex of the adrenals make aldosterone. Just like cortisol production can go down so can aldosterone and sex hormones. Not sure of the why of it. I just know my aldosterone tanked and was at 4 <range <=21 >typically if you have low aldo you crave a lot of salt and have BP issues. > > > > > > Kitty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ ...> > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 1:53:27 PM > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes > > > > > >  > > > ok, so what is throwing of the aldosterone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com> > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:00:21 AM > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes > > > > > >  > > > For many with adrenal issues it is the aldosterone levels that get off. Aldosterone is what regulates sodium and potassium. > > > > > > Kitty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ rocketmail. com> > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 12:44:09 PM > > > Subject: elecrtolytes > > > > > >  > > > What is throwing everyones electrolytes off? High levels of t3 or HC? S > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Yep you need to start with 1/4 tab and raise every 7-10 days. Checking sodium/potassium levels along the way. I have needed to really up the potassium now. I am taking 40meq split 3x through the day. Both HC and florinef really lower potassium. Before I started the florinef I was having major issues with salt wasting so my potassium was high intracellularly I think as I couldn't tolerate taking any extra. You can get HC online without a script <thats what I had to do> so don't feel you are totally stuck if that is the route you want to. I talked to Birrdyy and she recommended I not take a bedtime dose of HC, tried that last night and actually woke up this morning feeling awake! I really hope that will continue! Was nice not to feel like I was full of lead! I think the iron issues are due to autoimmune trouble being active. I am taking a good B12 supplement now so hopefully that will sort it self out. I am exhausted! Had to get up at 5am for work today yuk! Kitty To: RT3_T3 Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 12:21:07 AMSubject: Re: elecrtolytes I've heard I need a quarter tab Florinef and raise by a quarter weekly. Correct? I promise I'll watch BP -- finally went and bought a monitor.I take 27 per day. My naturopath can't prescribe HC and I can readily get Isocort, so that's what I've done and the naturopath wasn't worried about allergies, so I've continued as is -- but I will be glad to get actual HC, if it EVER comes!I don't wake up that tired, which is the weird thing. I guess it says something about my RT3 being cleared and being something close to the right dose HC. I don't usually feel good all day long, but usually some part of every day.Pernicious anemia. I hope not. You already have your hands full.I AM tired now and heading to bed soon here on the West Coast...Good night,Jeanne> > >> > > weak adrenals just don't produce enough of it. The cortex of the adrenals make aldosterone. Just like cortisol production can go down so can aldosterone and sex hormones. Not sure of the why of it. I just know my aldosterone tanked and was at 4 <range <=21 >typically if you have low aldo you crave a lot of salt and have BP issues.> > > > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ ...>> > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 1:53:27 PM> > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes> > > > > >  > > > ok, so what is throwing of the aldosterone?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com>> > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:00:21 AM> > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes> > > > > >  > > > For many with adrenal issues it is the aldosterone levels that get off. Aldosterone is what regulates sodium and potassium.> > > > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ rocketmail. com>> > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 12:44:09 PM> > > Subject: elecrtolytes> > > > > >  > > > What is throwing everyones electrolytes off? High levels of t3 or HC? S> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Yep you need to start with 1/4 tab and raise every 7-10 days. Checking sodium/potassium levels along the way. I have needed to really up the potassium now. I am taking 40meq split 3x through the day. Both HC and florinef really lower potassium. Before I started the florinef I was having major issues with salt wasting so my potassium was high intracellularly I think as I couldn't tolerate taking any extra. You can get HC online without a script <thats what I had to do> so don't feel you are totally stuck if that is the route you want to. I talked to Birrdyy and she recommended I not take a bedtime dose of HC, tried that last night and actually woke up this morning feeling awake! I really hope that will continue! Was nice not to feel like I was full of lead! I think the iron issues are due to autoimmune trouble being active. I am taking a good B12 supplement now so hopefully that will sort it self out. I am exhausted! Had to get up at 5am for work today yuk! Kitty To: RT3_T3 Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 12:21:07 AMSubject: Re: elecrtolytes I've heard I need a quarter tab Florinef and raise by a quarter weekly. Correct? I promise I'll watch BP -- finally went and bought a monitor.I take 27 per day. My naturopath can't prescribe HC and I can readily get Isocort, so that's what I've done and the naturopath wasn't worried about allergies, so I've continued as is -- but I will be glad to get actual HC, if it EVER comes!I don't wake up that tired, which is the weird thing. I guess it says something about my RT3 being cleared and being something close to the right dose HC. I don't usually feel good all day long, but usually some part of every day.Pernicious anemia. I hope not. You already have your hands full.I AM tired now and heading to bed soon here on the West Coast...Good night,Jeanne> > >> > > weak adrenals just don't produce enough of it. The cortex of the adrenals make aldosterone. Just like cortisol production can go down so can aldosterone and sex hormones. Not sure of the why of it. I just know my aldosterone tanked and was at 4 <range <=21 >typically if you have low aldo you crave a lot of salt and have BP issues.> > > > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ ...>> > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 1:53:27 PM> > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes> > > > > >  > > > ok, so what is throwing of the aldosterone?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com>> > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:00:21 AM> > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes> > > > > >  > > > For many with adrenal issues it is the aldosterone levels that get off. Aldosterone is what regulates sodium and potassium.> > > > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ rocketmail. com>> > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 12:44:09 PM> > > Subject: elecrtolytes> > > > > >  > > > What is throwing everyones electrolytes off? High levels of t3 or HC? S> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 I ordered Florinef and K Dur and Cortef the same day two weeks ago. So far the K Dur has come BUT am still using the OTC potassium I have until F and C come. I'm not very patient in the waiting. I guess blood tests every couple weeks while on Florinef? Or just at the beginning? No HC at night. Perhaps I'll try that tonight -- heading to bed soon. What job is making you get up at 5 am? Hope it's not a regular thing! Jeanne > > > > > > > > weak adrenals just don't produce enough of it. The cortex of the adrenals make aldosterone. Just like cortisol production can go down so can aldosterone and sex hormones. Not sure of the why of it. I just know my aldosterone tanked and was atÃÆ'‚ 4 <range <=21 >typically if you have low aldo you crave a lot of salt and have BP issues. > > > > > > > > Kitty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ ...> > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 1:53:27 PM > > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ok, so what is throwing of the aldosterone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com> > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:00:21 AM > > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > For many with adrenal issues it is the aldosterone levels that get off. Aldosterone is what regulates sodium and potassium. > > > > > > > > Kitty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ rocketmail. com> > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 12:44:09 PM > > > > Subject: elecrtolytes > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > What is throwing everyones electrolytes off? High levels of t3 or HC? S > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 I think once you are on a set dose you can just check the electrolytes periodically. I hate waiting as well I am feeling better without the bedtime HC so definitely worth a try! I am doing temp dental hygiene work and had to be at an office at 8am. I take forever in the morning so need a few hours to get myself together and feed my pets Kitty To: RT3_T3 Sent: Fri, April 2, 2010 12:41:04 AMSubject: Re: elecrtolytes I ordered Florinef and K Dur and Cortef the same day two weeks ago. So far the K Dur has come BUT am still using the OTC potassium I have until F and C come. I'm not very patient in the waiting. I guess blood tests every couple weeks while on Florinef? Or just at the beginning? No HC at night. Perhaps I'll try that tonight -- heading to bed soon.What job is making you get up at 5 am? Hope it's not a regular thing!Jeanne> > > >> > > > weak adrenals just don't produce enough of it. The cortex of the adrenals make aldosterone. Just like cortisol production can go down so can aldosterone and sex hormones. Not sure of the why of it. I just know my aldosterone tanked and was atÃÆ'‚ 4 <range <=21 >typically if you have low aldo you crave a lot of salt and have BP issues.> > > > > > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ ...>> > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 1:53:27 PM> > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ok, so what is throwing of the aldosterone?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com>> > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:00:21 AM> > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > For many with adrenal issues it is the aldosterone levels that get off. Aldosterone is what regulates sodium and potassium.> > > > > > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ rocketmail. com>> > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 12:44:09 PM> > > > Subject: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > What is throwing everyones electrolytes off? High levels of t3 or HC? S> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 I think once you are on a set dose you can just check the electrolytes periodically. I hate waiting as well I am feeling better without the bedtime HC so definitely worth a try! I am doing temp dental hygiene work and had to be at an office at 8am. I take forever in the morning so need a few hours to get myself together and feed my pets Kitty To: RT3_T3 Sent: Fri, April 2, 2010 12:41:04 AMSubject: Re: elecrtolytes I ordered Florinef and K Dur and Cortef the same day two weeks ago. So far the K Dur has come BUT am still using the OTC potassium I have until F and C come. I'm not very patient in the waiting. I guess blood tests every couple weeks while on Florinef? Or just at the beginning? No HC at night. Perhaps I'll try that tonight -- heading to bed soon.What job is making you get up at 5 am? Hope it's not a regular thing!Jeanne> > > >> > > > weak adrenals just don't produce enough of it. The cortex of the adrenals make aldosterone. Just like cortisol production can go down so can aldosterone and sex hormones. Not sure of the why of it. I just know my aldosterone tanked and was atÃÆ'‚ 4 <range <=21 >typically if you have low aldo you crave a lot of salt and have BP issues.> > > > > > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ ...>> > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 1:53:27 PM> > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ok, so what is throwing of the aldosterone?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com>> > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:00:21 AM> > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > For many with adrenal issues it is the aldosterone levels that get off. Aldosterone is what regulates sodium and potassium.> > > > > > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ rocketmail. com>> > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 12:44:09 PM> > > > Subject: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > What is throwing everyones electrolytes off? High levels of t3 or HC? S> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 I think once you are on a set dose you can just check the electrolytes periodically. I hate waiting as well I am feeling better without the bedtime HC so definitely worth a try! I am doing temp dental hygiene work and had to be at an office at 8am. I take forever in the morning so need a few hours to get myself together and feed my pets Kitty To: RT3_T3 Sent: Fri, April 2, 2010 12:41:04 AMSubject: Re: elecrtolytes I ordered Florinef and K Dur and Cortef the same day two weeks ago. So far the K Dur has come BUT am still using the OTC potassium I have until F and C come. I'm not very patient in the waiting. I guess blood tests every couple weeks while on Florinef? Or just at the beginning? No HC at night. Perhaps I'll try that tonight -- heading to bed soon.What job is making you get up at 5 am? Hope it's not a regular thing!Jeanne> > > >> > > > weak adrenals just don't produce enough of it. The cortex of the adrenals make aldosterone. Just like cortisol production can go down so can aldosterone and sex hormones. Not sure of the why of it. I just know my aldosterone tanked and was atÃÆ'‚ 4 <range <=21 >typically if you have low aldo you crave a lot of salt and have BP issues.> > > > > > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ ...>> > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 1:53:27 PM> > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ok, so what is throwing of the aldosterone?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com>> > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:00:21 AM> > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > For many with adrenal issues it is the aldosterone levels that get off. Aldosterone is what regulates sodium and potassium.> > > > > > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ rocketmail. com>> > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 12:44:09 PM> > > > Subject: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > What is throwing everyones electrolytes off? High levels of t3 or HC? S> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Kitty, Woo hoo! Florinef, Cortef, and Celtic sea salt all came the same day! Took about three weeks to get them and I've been needing them twice that long. I'm going to have to make sure I work on the six months' stock idea. Did you drop your HC when you started Florinef? I'm wondering about that. Will symptoms tell me and if so, what should I be looking out for? I took 1/4 Florinef (it came this morning) and it seems I had more endurance and no headache yet. I know, I know, one dose is not a reliable indication of what is to be, but I'm grateful for no headache/migraine, since I'm prone. I hear needing the time in the morning to get ready -- if not, the whole day is a mess. Just take care of yourself, Jeanne > > > > > > > > > > weak adrenals just don't produce enough of it. The cortex of the adrenals make aldosterone. Just like cortisol production can go down so can aldosterone and sex hormones. Not sure of the why of it. I just know my aldosterone tanked and was atÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 4 <range <=21 >typically if you have low aldo you crave a lot of salt and have BP issues. > > > > > > > > > > Kitty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ ...> > > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 1:53:27 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > ok, so what is throwing of the aldosterone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com> > > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:00:21 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > For many with adrenal issues it is the aldosterone levels that get off. Aldosterone is what regulates sodium and potassium. > > > > > > > > > > Kitty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ rocketmail. com> > > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 12:44:09 PM > > > > > Subject: elecrtolytes > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > What is throwing everyones electrolytes off? High levels of t3 or HC? S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Hi Jeanne I haven't decreased my HC yet but think I will try to soon. I am gaining a bit of weight and feel more hungry at night. I am not at a full tab of florinef yet though, due to increase again this weekend which will put me at 1 tab then I can decide if it is time to decrease HC. I think if you need to decrease HC you will start to get the high cortisol symptoms, increased appetite/thirst, weight gain especially around face, back of neck, belly, thighs, stretch marks, red face etc. http://faqhelp.webs.com/hchydrocortisone.htm I think temps are super important as well. Have you been doing them? I felt a difference immediately with the florinef as well. Not everyone experiences that. I knew it was time to increase since some of the symptoms started to come back after maybe 5 days. I didn't start to really need potassium until I got to 3/4 tab though. I also have bad headaches without the florinef, pretty much gone now I have 12 pets right now, 4 skunks, 7 ferrets, and 2 cats. One cat and one ferret need special care and all need food prepared twice a day <I try to feed a wholistic diet to them as well> and between that, showering, eating etc. I need a considerable amount of time I know all of my own doing but the pets were here before I started getting really sick.... so have to make allowances I hope you will continue to feel better! Remember to keep an eye on your potassium levels. For me low potassium showed as different sort of headache-more like pressure, muscle pain/weakness in my legs, fatigue, pounding heart... You will need it as time goes on, have you ordered any? Kitty To: RT3_T3 Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 1:13:47 AMSubject: Re: elecrtolytes Kitty,Woo hoo! Florinef, Cortef, and Celtic sea salt all came the same day! Took about three weeks to get them and I've been needing them twice that long. I'm going to have to make sure I work on the six months' stock idea.Did you drop your HC when you started Florinef? I'm wondering about that. Will symptoms tell me and if so, what should I be looking out for? I took 1/4 Florinef (it came this morning) and it seems I had more endurance and no headache yet. I know, I know, one dose is not a reliable indication of what is to be, but I'm grateful for no headache/migraine, since I'm prone.I hear needing the time in the morning to get ready -- if not, the whole day is a mess. Just take care of yourself,Jeanne> > > > >> > > > > weak adrenals just don't produce enough of it. The cortex of the adrenals make aldosterone. Just like cortisol production can go down so can aldosterone and sex hormones. Not sure of the why of it. I just know my aldosterone tanked and was atÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 4 <range <=21 >typically if you have low aldo you crave a lot of salt and have BP issues.> > > > > > > > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ ...>> > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 1:53:27 PM> > > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > ok, so what is throwing of the aldosterone?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com>> > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:00:21 AM> > > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > For many with adrenal issues it is the aldosterone levels that get off. Aldosterone is what regulates sodium and potassium.> > > > > > > > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ rocketmail. com>> > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 12:44:09 PM> > > > > Subject: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > What is throwing everyones electrolytes off? High levels of t3 or HC? S> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 I just started florinef as well and I need to get my sodium and potassium tested, but I am wondering if I should stop taking florinef for a few days beofre the test? I am supposed to lay off salt the day before, too, right? Thanks > > > > > > > > weak adrenals just don't produce enough of it. The cortex of the adrenals make aldosterone. Just like cortisol production can go down so can aldosterone and sex hormones. Not sure of the why of it. I just know my aldosterone tanked and was atÃÆ'‚ 4 <range <=21 >typically if you have low aldo you crave a lot of salt and have BP issues. > > > > > > > > Kitty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ ...> > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 1:53:27 PM > > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ok, so what is throwing of the aldosterone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com> > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:00:21 AM > > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > For many with adrenal issues it is the aldosterone levels that get off. Aldosterone is what regulates sodium and potassium. > > > > > > > > Kitty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ rocketmail. com> > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 12:44:09 PM > > > > Subject: elecrtolytes > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > What is throwing everyones electrolytes off? High levels of t3 or HC? S > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 You just can't take the potassium, florinef, or salt the day of the test. Aldosterone testing is the only one you have to stop salt for 24 hours. Kitty To: RT3_T3 Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 1:53:00 AMSubject: Re: elecrtolytes I just started florinef as well and I need to get my sodium and potassium tested, but I am wondering if I should stop taking florinef for a few days beofre the test? I am supposed to lay off salt the day before, too, right? Thanks> > > >> > > > weak adrenals just don't produce enough of it. The cortex of the adrenals make aldosterone. Just like cortisol production can go down so can aldosterone and sex hormones. Not sure of the why of it. I just know my aldosterone tanked and was atÃÆ'‚ 4 <range <=21 >typically if you have low aldo you crave a lot of salt and have BP issues.> > > > > > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ ...>> > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 1:53:27 PM> > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > ok, so what is throwing of the aldosterone?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com>> > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:00:21 AM> > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > For many with adrenal issues it is the aldosterone levels that get off. Aldosterone is what regulates sodium and potassium.> > > > > > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ rocketmail. com>> > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 12:44:09 PM> > > > Subject: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > What is throwing everyones electrolytes off? High levels of t3 or HC? S> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Oh whew. That is good news. Kitty, one more question. I have some upper leg cramps since starting florinef. Does that mean my potassium is probably low? Thanks Liz > > > > > > > > > > weak adrenals just don't produce enough of it. The cortex of the adrenals make aldosterone. Just like cortisol production can go down so can aldosterone and sex hormones. Not sure of the why of it. I just know my aldosterone tanked and was atÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 4 <range <=21 >typically if you have low aldo you crave a lot of salt and have BP issues. > > > > > > > > > > Kitty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ ...> > > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 1:53:27 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > ok, so what is throwing of the aldosterone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com> > > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:00:21 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > For many with adrenal issues it is the aldosterone levels that get off. Aldosterone is what regulates sodium and potassium. > > > > > > > > > > Kitty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ rocketmail. com> > > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 12:44:09 PM > > > > > Subject: elecrtolytes > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > What is throwing everyones electrolytes off? High levels of t3 or HC? S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Yep that is how my legs felt. Not quite a charlie horse but a tight pain. I also felt very weak, and my heart was pounding a lot. Florinef really lowers potassium as does HC. kitty To: RT3_T3 Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 1:21:29 PMSubject: Re: elecrtolytes Oh whew. That is good news. Kitty, one more question. I have some upper leg cramps since starting florinef. Does that mean my potassium is probably low?ThanksLiz> > > > >> > > > > weak adrenals just don't produce enough of it. The cortex of the adrenals make aldosterone. Just like cortisol production can go down so can aldosterone and sex hormones. Not sure of the why of it. I just know my aldosterone tanked and was atÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 4 <range <=21 >typically if you have low aldo you crave a lot of salt and have BP issues.> > > > > > > > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ ...>> > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 1:53:27 PM> > > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > ok, so what is throwing of the aldosterone?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com>> > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:00:21 AM> > > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > For many with adrenal issues it is the aldosterone levels that get off. Aldosterone is what regulates sodium and potassium.> > > > > > > > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ rocketmail. com>> > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 12:44:09 PM> > > > > Subject: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > What is throwing everyones electrolytes off? High levels of t3 or HC? S> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Thanks Kitty How much potassium do you take? Liz > > > > > > > > > > > > weak adrenals just don't produce enough of it. The cortex of the adrenals make aldosterone. Just like cortisol production can go down so can aldosterone and sex hormones. Not sure of the why of it. I just know my aldosterone tanked and was atÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚\  4 <range <=21 >typically if you have low aldo you crave a lot of salt and have BP issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kitty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ ...> > > > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 1:53:27 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ‚ > > > > > > ok, so what is throwing of the aldosterone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com> > > > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:00:21 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ‚ > > > > > > For many with adrenal issues it is the aldosterone levels that get off. Aldosterone is what regulates sodium and potassium. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kitty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ rocketmail. com> > > > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 12:44:09 PM > > > > > > Subject: elecrtolytes > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ‚ > > > > > > What is throwing everyones electrolytes off? High levels of t3 or HC? S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 I am up to 40meq. I try to split it 3x a day so 20meq at breakfast, 10 at lunch and 10 at dinner. I also take 1 tablespoon of molasses in the morning which is around 10meq of potassium as well. Birrdyy from the adrenal group recommends I take at least 50meq of potassium once I get to 1 tab of florinef. I also eat 1/2 a banana for breakfast and usually 1 potato a day <I am GF like most here so not really any carbs in the way of grains> Kitty To: RT3_T3 Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 1:27:38 PMSubject: Re: elecrtolytes Thanks KittyHow much potassium do you take?Liz> > > > > >> > > > > > weak adrenals just don't produce enough of it. The cortex of the adrenals make aldosterone. Just like cortisol production can go down so can aldosterone and sex hormones. Not sure of the why of it. I just know my aldosterone tanked and was atÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 4 <range <=21 >typically if you have low aldo you crave a lot of salt and have BP issues.> > > > > > > > > > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ ...>> > > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 1:53:27 PM> > > > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > ok, so what is throwing of the aldosterone?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com>> > > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:00:21 AM> > > > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > For many with adrenal issues it is the aldosterone levels that get off. Aldosterone is what regulates sodium and potassium.> > > > > > > > > > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ rocketmail. com>> > > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 12:44:09 PM> > > > > > Subject: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > What is throwing everyones electrolytes off? High levels of t3 or HC? S> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Hi Kitty Thanks for all of the information. It is really helpful because I recently started florinef and I have a lot of questions. One thing I notice is that in the afternoon I feel like the florinef might be wearing off because I get a headache. Could that be true? Do you dose twoce a day? Thanks Liz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > weak adrenals just don't produce enough of it. The cortex of the adrenals make aldosterone. Just like cortisol production can go down so can aldosterone and sex hormones. Not sure of the why of it. I just know my aldosterone tanked and was atÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Â¢Ã¢â‚¬à ¡Ã‚Â¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ã¢â‚¬à ¡ÃÆ'‚ 4 <range <=21 >typically if you have low aldo you crave a lot of salt and have BP issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kitty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ ...> > > > > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 1:53:27 PM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Â¢Ã¢â‚¬à ¡Ã‚Â¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ã¢â‚¬à ¡ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > ok, so what is throwing of the aldosterone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com> > > > > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:00:21 AM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Â¢Ã¢â‚¬à ¡Ã‚Â¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ã¢â‚¬à ¡ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > For many with adrenal issues it is the aldosterone levels that get off. Aldosterone is what regulates sodium and potassium. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kitty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ rocketmail. com> > > > > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 12:44:09 PM > > > > > > > Subject: elecrtolytes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Â¢Ã¢â‚¬à ¡Ã‚Â¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ã¢â‚¬à ¡ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > What is throwing everyones electrolytes off? High levels of t3 or HC? S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 I only dose once a day. I was having the same thing when I was on a lower dose. I am at 3/4 tab and am not really having headaches now, if I do it is late day/evening. I am due to go to a full tab this sunday so will increase my potassium again to 50meq. Some people dose twice a day but Birrdyy recommended I wait until I was at a full tab before trying that. How much are you taking so far? kitty To: RT3_T3 Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 7:06:03 PMSubject: Re: elecrtolytes Hi Kitty Thanks for all of the information. It is really helpful because I recently started florinef and I have a lot of questions. One thing I notice is that in the afternoon I feel like the florinef might be wearing off because I get a headache. Could that be true? Do you dose twoce a day?ThanksLiz> > > > > > >> > > > > > > weak adrenals just don't produce enough of it. The cortex of the adrenals make aldosterone. Just like cortisol production can go down so can aldosterone and sex hormones. Not sure of the why of it. I just know my aldosterone tanked and was atÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 4 <range <=21 >typically if you have low aldo you crave a lot of salt and have BP issues.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ ...>> > > > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 1:53:27 PM> > > > > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > ok, so what is throwing of the aldosterone?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com>> > > > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:00:21 AM> > > > > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > For many with adrenal issues it is the aldosterone levels that get off. Aldosterone is what regulates sodium and potassium.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ rocketmail. com>> > > > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 12:44:09 PM> > > > > > > Subject: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > What is throwing everyones electrolytes off? High levels of t3 or HC? S> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 Hi Kitty I started at 1/4 tablet, and now I am doing that twice a day. How did you know to raise your dose? Do you have any side effects aside from the headache when it wears off? I read somewhere it makes you more prone to infection, but I don't know if it is simply like cortef, which I am on as well, because it is a steroid. I have an awful cold now and I am wondering if the florinef is making it worse. Thanks Liz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > weak adrenals just don't produce enough of it. The cortex of the adrenals make aldosterone. Just like cortisol production can go down so can aldosterone and sex hormones. Not sure of the why of it. I just know my aldosterone tanked and was atÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Â¢Ã¢â‚¬à ¡Ã‚Â¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ã¢â‚¬à ¡ÃÆ'‚ 4 <range <=21 >typically if you have low aldo you crave a lot of salt and have BP issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kitty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ ...> > > > > > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 1:53:27 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Â¢Ã¢â‚¬à ¡Ã‚Â¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ã¢â‚¬à ¡ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > ok, so what is throwing of the aldosterone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com> > > > > > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:00:21 AM > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Â¢Ã¢â‚¬à ¡Ã‚Â¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ã¢â‚¬à ¡ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > For many with adrenal issues it is the aldosterone levels that get off. Aldosterone is what regulates sodium and potassium. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kitty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ rocketmail. com> > > > > > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com > > > > > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 12:44:09 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: elecrtolytes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚\ ¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'Â¢Ã¢â‚¬à ¡Ã‚Â¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'Ã¢â‚¬à ¡ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > What is throwing everyones electrolytes off? High levels of t3 or HC? S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 I was just raising my dose since the normal dose needed is 1 tab. I was getting low sodium symptoms as it got time to increase the dose, irritable, swelling, headache, angry, increased thirst/salt need, etc. My aldosterone was really low, came back at 4 <range <=21 > so I REALLY needed it! It will make you prone to infection just like HC can but usually this happens at much higher doses. I haven't had any trouble with healing, in fact things seem to heal better now on the HC than before. I am colder now with the florinef. Low aldosterone causes falsely high temps. I forget the whole explination... but my temps are now averaging 97.8 from 98.3. HC will cause you to become more hypothyroid since cortisol allows you to use your T3. I have become EXTREMELY hypothyroid since starting the HC and it definitely got worse on the florinef. I guess everything starts to get metabolized better making us need more. I also just found out I have an RT3 issue so am now on just T3 so that will take a bit to sort out. I am assuming you have an RT3 issue as well being here, what are you taking? Maybe it is time to increase? Kitty To: RT3_T3 Sent: Sat, April 3, 2010 7:35:20 PMSubject: Re: elecrtolytes Hi KittyI started at 1/4 tablet, and now I am doing that twice a day. How did you know to raise your dose? Do you have any side effects aside from the headache when it wears off?I read somewhere it makes you more prone to infection, but I don't know if it is simply like cortef, which I am on as well, because it is a steroid. I have an awful cold now and I am wondering if the florinef is making it worse.ThanksLiz> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > weak adrenals just don't produce enough of it. The cortex of the adrenals make aldosterone. Just like cortisol production can go down so can aldosterone and sex hormones. Not sure of the why of it. I just know my aldosterone tanked and was atÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ 4 <range <=21 >typically if you have low aldo you crave a lot of salt and have BP issues.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ ...>> > > > > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 1:53:27 PM> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > ok, so what is throwing of the aldosterone?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > From: kitty Haindl <cubblebubble@ yahoo.com>> > > > > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 11:00:21 AM> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > For many with adrenal issues it is the aldosterone levels that get off. Aldosterone is what regulates sodium and potassium.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kitty> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > > > From: Suzanne Kann <kannsuzanne@ rocketmail. com>> > > > > > > > To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) com> > > > > > > > Sent: Tue, March 30, 2010 12:44:09 PM> > > > > > > > Subject: elecrtolytes> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚¢ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'…ÃÆ'‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > What is throwing everyones electrolytes off? High levels of t3 or HC? S> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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