Re: New Doc recommending SRT3...not sure what to do

[Guest guest]

Hi Steph,

For what it's worth, SR works better for me, maybe because it releases more

slowly. However, it does not last 12 hours in me. I have to take it 3 times a

day. The pharmacist told me it lasts 8 to 12 hours depending on the person. With

me it only lasts 8 and I NEED the afternoon dose. I also like that it releases

all night while I sleep.

But the SR has been really good on my adrenals and it does work for me and few

others I know, too. My temps raise with the sr and I am slowly becoming a human

being again. My hypo symptoms are decreasing. I also find it easier to dose 3

times a day rather than 5 or 6.

I think it just matters what works for you. I would give it a try anyway and

see, since you have a script AND a doctor who will actually give you hc! I do

agree taking 15 mcg is going backwards if you're already on 25, but not sure

what to do if you don'th have enough pills to take more a day. As for twice a

day, that depends on the person, really. Like I said, I have to take it 3 times

a day, but I know some who only need to take it twice a day. The only way to

find that out, unfortunately, is to try it twice a day and see how you feel.

My doc wanted me to take it all in the morning. That totally did NOT work! :-)

good luck!

Kathleen

>

> I had a doctor appointment on Tuesday. Went all the way from Norther VA to

South Bend Indiana to see this doc. He confirmed that I indeed do have Adrenal

Fatigue and RT3 dominance. He also confirmed that I have Vitamin D and B12

defficiency. This was all stuff I already knew myself, but wanted to have a doc

help with the treatment. He also told me that I am low in magnesium and in

estrogen, which I did not realize.

>

> Good news is that he treats AF with Hydrocortisone, which I was very pleased

with. Bad news is he insists on treating RT3 dominance with Slow Release T3.

>

> Before I went to see the doc I had already started the T3 only treatment.

Because of the AF I was using Isocort so that I could tolerate the T3. It was

helping, but I'm hoping that the HC will work better. I had slowly over a couple

of months worked my way up from 10 mcg of T3 to 25 mcg of T3. I've been dosing

it at 10, 5, 5, 5 per day. Because of the trip to IN my temps have been quite

unstable over the last week, so am waiting for them to stabalize before

increasing the dose.

>

> Anyway, he has told me to take 25 mg of HC a day, which I'm good with, but

wants me to take 7.5 mcg of SRT3 twice a day! That just doesn't make sense to me

since I'm already on 25 mcg a day. I feel like I will be going backwards and

also feel like the SRT3 will take longer to work. He feels like the T3 is just

too much on the system and causes temps to go all over the place and the body to

have to work too hard.

>

> I don't know what to do. I finally found a doctor who knows how to treat AF,

so don't want to lose that, but I don't agree with his treatment for RT3

dominance. Does anyone have any advise? I was going to point him to Nick's

website with the RT3 info. Are there any other good resources I can point him

to?

>

> Should I start his protocol and see how it goes? I'm just at a loss and would

love to get some advise on what to do.

>

> Thanks,

> Steph

>

[Guest guest]

Steph,

Can I ask who the Dr. was in South Bend? I am about 3 hours away from him. You must be desperate to come so far. There isn't any docs in your area or closer than Indiana?

Just my two cents, but the Dr. I go to now, treats with SRT3 and dessicated, but he is worried about my TSH being so suppressed, so I may have to find a new Dr. I am taking 120mg SRT3 and according to my Dr. I should be overstimulated but I am not. The little bit of SRT3 this guy recommended sounds too low, but I don't know...

Mcgragor

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 9:22:51 PMSubject: New Doc recommending SRT3...not sure what to do

I had a doctor appointment on Tuesday. Went all the way from Norther VA to South Bend Indiana to see this doc. He confirmed that I indeed do have Adrenal Fatigue and RT3 dominance. He also confirmed that I have Vitamin D and B12 defficiency. This was all stuff I already knew myself, but wanted to have a doc help with the treatment. He also told me that I am low in magnesium and in estrogen, which I did not realize. Good news is that he treats AF with Hydrocortisone, which I was very pleased with. Bad news is he insists on treating RT3 dominance with Slow Release T3.Before I went to see the doc I had already started the T3 only treatment. Because of the AF I was using Isocort so that I could tolerate the T3. It was helping, but I'm hoping that the HC will work better. I had slowly over a couple of months worked my way up from 10 mcg of T3 to 25 mcg of T3. I've been dosing it at 10, 5, 5, 5 per day. Because of the trip to IN my temps

have been quite unstable over the last week, so am waiting for them to stabalize before increasing the dose. Anyway, he has told me to take 25 mg of HC a day, which I'm good with, but wants me to take 7.5 mcg of SRT3 twice a day! That just doesn't make sense to me since I'm already on 25 mcg a day. I feel like I will be going backwards and also feel like the SRT3 will take longer to work. He feels like the T3 is just too much on the system and causes temps to go all over the place and the body to have to work too hard.I don't know what to do. I finally found a doctor who knows how to treat AF, so don't want to lose that, but I don't agree with his treatment for RT3 dominance. Does anyone have any advise? I was going to point him to Nick's website with the RT3 info. Are there any other good resources I can point him to? Should I start his protocol and see how it goes? I'm just at a loss and would love to get some advise on what to

do.Thanks,Steph

[Guest guest]

I flew all the way from NM to CA just to get a doc who would rx HC and T3. But

now I can just do phone consults AND he doesn't care if I go high on t3 or have

a low t3, so it's worth it, IMO. Of course, one can self medicate and I'm all

for that, too, but I wanted to have scripts if necessary. And since the SR works

better for me it turns out, I'm glad I do have the scripts! ;-)

Kathleen

>

> Steph,

>

> Can I ask who the Dr. was in South Bend? I am about 3 hours away from him. You

must be desperate to come so far. There isn't any docs in your area or closer

than Indiana?

>

> Just my two cents, but the Dr. I go to now, treats with SRT3 and dessicated,

but he is worried about my TSH being so suppressed, so I may have to find a new

Dr. I am taking 120mg SRT3 and according to my Dr. I should be overstimulated

but I am not. The little bit of SRT3 this guy recommended sounds too low, but I

don't know...

>

> Mcgragor

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: RT3_T3

> Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 9:22:51 PM

> Subject: New Doc recommending SRT3...not sure what to do

>

>  

> I had a doctor appointment on Tuesday. Went all the way from Norther VA to

South Bend Indiana to see this doc. He confirmed that I indeed do have Adrenal

Fatigue and RT3 dominance. He also confirmed that I have Vitamin D and B12

defficiency. This was all stuff I already knew myself, but wanted to have a doc

help with the treatment. He also told me that I am low in magnesium and in

estrogen, which I did not realize.

>

> Good news is that he treats AF with Hydrocortisone, which I was very pleased

with. Bad news is he insists on treating RT3 dominance with Slow Release T3.

>

> Before I went to see the doc I had already started the T3 only treatment.

Because of the AF I was using Isocort so that I could tolerate the T3. It was

helping, but I'm hoping that the HC will work better. I had slowly over a couple

of months worked my way up from 10 mcg of T3 to 25 mcg of T3. I've been dosing

it at 10, 5, 5, 5 per day. Because of the trip to IN my temps have been quite

unstable over the last week, so am waiting for them to stabalize before

increasing the dose.

>

> Anyway, he has told me to take 25 mg of HC a day, which I'm good with, but

wants me to take 7.5 mcg of SRT3 twice a day! That just doesn't make sense to me

since I'm already on 25 mcg a day. I feel like I will be going backwards and

also feel like the SRT3 will take longer to work. He feels like the T3 is just

too much on the system and causes temps to go all over the place and the body to

have to work too hard.

>

> I don't know what to do. I finally found a doctor who knows how to treat AF,

so don't want to lose that, but I don't agree with his treatment for RT3

dominance. Does anyone have any advise? I was going to point him to Nick's

website with the RT3 info. Are there any other good resources I can point him

to?

>

> Should I start his protocol and see how it goes? I'm just at a loss and would

love to get some advise on what to do.

>

> Thanks,

> Steph

>

[Guest guest]

I sent you the name of the doc privately. --Steph

>

> Steph,

>

> Can I ask who the Dr. was in South Bend? I am about 3 hours away from him. You

must be desperate to come so far. There isn't any docs in your area or closer

than Indiana?

>

> Just my two cents, but the Dr. I go to now, treats with SRT3 and dessicated,

but he is worried about my TSH being so suppressed, so I may have to find a new

Dr. I am taking 120mg SRT3 and according to my Dr. I should be overstimulated

but I am not. The little bit of SRT3 this guy recommended sounds too low, but I

don't know...

>

> Mcgragor

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: RT3_T3

> Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 9:22:51 PM

> Subject: New Doc recommending SRT3...not sure what to do

>

>  

> I had a doctor appointment on Tuesday. Went all the way from Norther VA to

South Bend Indiana to see this doc. He confirmed that I indeed do have Adrenal

Fatigue and RT3 dominance. He also confirmed that I have Vitamin D and B12

defficiency. This was all stuff I already knew myself, but wanted to have a doc

help with the treatment. He also told me that I am low in magnesium and in

estrogen, which I did not realize.

>

> Good news is that he treats AF with Hydrocortisone, which I was very pleased

with. Bad news is he insists on treating RT3 dominance with Slow Release T3.

>

> Before I went to see the doc I had already started the T3 only treatment.

Because of the AF I was using Isocort so that I could tolerate the T3. It was

helping, but I'm hoping that the HC will work better. I had slowly over a couple

of months worked my way up from 10 mcg of T3 to 25 mcg of T3. I've been dosing

it at 10, 5, 5, 5 per day. Because of the trip to IN my temps have been quite

unstable over the last week, so am waiting for them to stabalize before

increasing the dose.

>

> Anyway, he has told me to take 25 mg of HC a day, which I'm good with, but

wants me to take 7.5 mcg of SRT3 twice a day! That just doesn't make sense to me

since I'm already on 25 mcg a day. I feel like I will be going backwards and

also feel like the SRT3 will take longer to work. He feels like the T3 is just

too much on the system and causes temps to go all over the place and the body to

have to work too hard.

>

> I don't know what to do. I finally found a doctor who knows how to treat AF,

so don't want to lose that, but I don't agree with his treatment for RT3

dominance. Does anyone have any advise? I was going to point him to Nick's

website with the RT3 info. Are there any other good resources I can point him

to?

>

> Should I start his protocol and see how it goes? I'm just at a loss and would

love to get some advise on what to do.

>

> Thanks,

> Steph

>

[Guest guest]

Kathleen,

Thanks for the info. Do you get your SRT3 done at a local pharmacy? I'm

concerned with the fillers that are used. I think I heard that using cellulose

is bad, or makes the absorption less effective. It also seems like maybe it will

take longer to get to the non-hypo state on SRT3. I'm not exactly sure, but I do

know there is a reason that the mods recommend using Cytomel or other non-SRT3

meds. I seem to be tolerating T3 ok, but definitely want to have a doctor's help

and am very happy that this one uses HC for AF.

I actually found another doc in polis land, which is only 2 hours away.

But only found out about him last Friday. I've made an appointment with him too

on May 4th, so I'll be curious to see what he says. I know he also treats with

SRT3, but I think he's open to using Cytomel.

Anyway, it's nice to know that the SRT3 is working for some. I think you are

probably right that it will not hurt to try it. I'm really just starting the

treatment anyway and maybe if I feel really hypo on the 15 I can convince him to

increase it sooner than 10 days, which is when I have my first phone consult

with him. It's also good to know about the every 8 hours versus every 12.

Thanks,

Steph

> >

> > I had a doctor appointment on Tuesday. Went all the way from Norther VA to

South Bend Indiana to see this doc. He confirmed that I indeed do have Adrenal

Fatigue and RT3 dominance. He also confirmed that I have Vitamin D and B12

defficiency. This was all stuff I already knew myself, but wanted to have a doc

help with the treatment. He also told me that I am low in magnesium and in

estrogen, which I did not realize.

> >

> > Good news is that he treats AF with Hydrocortisone, which I was very pleased

with. Bad news is he insists on treating RT3 dominance with Slow Release T3.

> >

> > Before I went to see the doc I had already started the T3 only treatment.

Because of the AF I was using Isocort so that I could tolerate the T3. It was

helping, but I'm hoping that the HC will work better. I had slowly over a couple

of months worked my way up from 10 mcg of T3 to 25 mcg of T3. I've been dosing

it at 10, 5, 5, 5 per day. Because of the trip to IN my temps have been quite

unstable over the last week, so am waiting for them to stabalize before

increasing the dose.

> >

> > Anyway, he has told me to take 25 mg of HC a day, which I'm good with, but

wants me to take 7.5 mcg of SRT3 twice a day! That just doesn't make sense to me

since I'm already on 25 mcg a day. I feel like I will be going backwards and

also feel like the SRT3 will take longer to work. He feels like the T3 is just

too much on the system and causes temps to go all over the place and the body to

have to work too hard.

> >

> > I don't know what to do. I finally found a doctor who knows how to treat AF,

so don't want to lose that, but I don't agree with his treatment for RT3

dominance. Does anyone have any advise? I was going to point him to Nick's

website with the RT3 info. Are there any other good resources I can point him

to?

> >

> > Should I start his protocol and see how it goes? I'm just at a loss and

would love to get some advise on what to do.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Steph

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Steph,

Yes, I get it at a local, privately owned pharmacy that the doc in town

uses. I've also gotten it from ITC (used by the FCC centers) and Holtorf and I

can't say I've noticed any differnce. But the local I use has a good reputation.

And you could always call any script into ITC, I do believe.

I am not sure what the filler is; a lot of places use lactose unless you are

intolerant. But regardless, if it is less effective, I don't seem to notice

because it works for me. I guess the worst case scenario is that you have to

take a higher dose due to decreased absorption.

I do realize a lot of people don't like it and that's fine! I think the mods

have not had good experiences with it and didn't think it absorbs. And for them,

if that is their experience, then that is the truth for them. And I know the

plain Cynomel helps tons of people. In fact, I gave my Cynomel to my sister

Poor thing has been put on SynCrap and was feeling AWFUL. She says she's her old

self now, so YAY, I actually helped someone!

I don't know why SR doesn't work for some people. Maybe the pharmacies they used

were bad. Maybe if someone has a lot of absorption issues or something, the SR

t3 won't work for them. I truly don't know. I'm not telling people SR is the

best or anyting. I'm just saying that for me, it works better, and I know at

least one other person doing well on it. Maybe it's because my body likes the

slower release -- easier on my adrenals. I don't know. It's also easier for me

to take, only 3 times a day. Since I have a LOT of supps and things I have to

take, 3 times a day has made my life tremendously easier.

Because I can actually tolerate it, I'm becoming unhypo on the SR. If it works

for a person, I don't think it takes any longer to become unhypo. You might end

up on a higher dose than someone on Cynomel, but the process of ramping up and

taking your temperature is the same.

In the end, we all have to find what works for us individually. I've tried about

everything, lol, and since this is working now, I'm going to stick with it. And

I did try the once a day, the twice a day and maybe those work for some people,

but not for me! I literally could feel it wear off, so it wasn't very hard to

figure out I had to take some in the afternoon. And it didn't take long to find

out that I had to break it up evenly over my 3 doses.

One hint: I don't tell the docs everything. My doc would probably croak if I

told him I take it at bedtime! But he was okay when I said, look, I couldn't

take it all in the am and I felt like I was dead in the afternoon, so I take 2/3

in the am and 1/3 in the afternoon. That's a lie, but he gives me 2 scripts and

I just split the " am " pill between the am and the afternoon. :-) You gotta work

the system sometimes!

I suspect, unfortunately, you will feel hypo going down to 15 mcg. Maybe you can

just add in your cynomel with it until you have your phone appointment?

Let me know what happens!

Kathleen

> > >

> > > I had a doctor appointment on Tuesday. Went all the way from Norther VA to

South Bend Indiana to see this doc. He confirmed that I indeed do have Adrenal

Fatigue and RT3 dominance. He also confirmed that I have Vitamin D and B12

defficiency. This was all stuff I already knew myself, but wanted to have a doc

help with the treatment. He also told me that I am low in magnesium and in

estrogen, which I did not realize.

> > >

> > > Good news is that he treats AF with Hydrocortisone, which I was very

pleased with. Bad news is he insists on treating RT3 dominance with Slow Release

T3.

> > >

> > > Before I went to see the doc I had already started the T3 only treatment.

Because of the AF I was using Isocort so that I could tolerate the T3. It was

helping, but I'm hoping that the HC will work better. I had slowly over a couple

of months worked my way up from 10 mcg of T3 to 25 mcg of T3. I've been dosing

it at 10, 5, 5, 5 per day. Because of the trip to IN my temps have been quite

unstable over the last week, so am waiting for them to stabalize before

increasing the dose.

> > >

> > > Anyway, he has told me to take 25 mg of HC a day, which I'm good with, but

wants me to take 7.5 mcg of SRT3 twice a day! That just doesn't make sense to me

since I'm already on 25 mcg a day. I feel like I will be going backwards and

also feel like the SRT3 will take longer to work. He feels like the T3 is just

too much on the system and causes temps to go all over the place and the body to

have to work too hard.

> > >

> > > I don't know what to do. I finally found a doctor who knows how to treat

AF, so don't want to lose that, but I don't agree with his treatment for RT3

dominance. Does anyone have any advise? I was going to point him to Nick's

website with the RT3 info. Are there any other good resources I can point him

to?

> > >

> > > Should I start his protocol and see how it goes? I'm just at a loss and

would love to get some advise on what to do.

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Steph

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

hey steph, i think we are seeing the same doc, sounds too similar to not be...

is he actually in mishawaka? if so, he prescribed SRT3 for me too, but i just

didnt even want to go that route and anyway, by the time the SR stuff came in

the mail i had already started T3 only the day after he diagnosed me with the

rt3 problem with some generic reg.T3 i had previously ordered off the internet.

wow that was a runon sentence,lol!

anyway, when he called to go over protocol, i just kind of told him that this is

what i am doing, i am taking 40mcg regT3 and bottom line that is what i am most

comfortable doing, and he said sure he'd work with me, but i could tell he had

his reservations on whether it would be good for me. i asked could you please

prescribe some cytomel for me, and he said sure, but hold onto the SR stuff in

case i need it in the future.

and when i just had my last followup phone consult with him (btw i am now in my

4th-5th week of t3 only), he wanted to know specifics, and i told him about my

ups and downs...

with low ferritin i had some pooling going on and had to back down my dose for a

bit after a miserable day of very high temps and going very hyper (think maybe

it was a thyroid dump), but then i felt great, and then went a tad hypo, so came

back up a tiny amount. so, with the quick-release stuff i've been able to more

accurately tweak my doses according to little bumps in the road like that with

quicker feedback.

anyway, when i told him about that specific bad day he immediately said i need

to try the SR stuff to avoid wild fluctuations in body temp like that again...

but i came right back and said no i would feel more comfortable staying on the

reg stuff (it is reactions like that that serve as major clues to me and allow

me to adjust accordingly, and i really feel itd be harder to do with SR)

my reasoning i gave him was the truth... i said i have absorption issues, plus i

am taking iron supplements which are absorption hogs, and i want to do the T3

sublingually in order to avoid losing any potency.

he said sure, ok, he'd work with me on it, but that we were venturing into

unknown territory for him and that i'd be kind of like a guineau pig...

he said keep up the good work, and he'd talk to me in a few weeks.

only thing i wish different about him is addressing low ferritin... i had to

bring it to his attention, and he didnt seem to hold it in that much

importance... i feel like that is holding me back from raising T3 as quickly as

i want, so i just have to focus on it on my own. sure would be nice if it was

as big of a concern to him to though, then i might feel more comfortable asking

for iron ivs (which as is,i dont at all)

anyway, do you think it is the same doctor? if so, hope this helps. i kind of

wish another of his patients insisted on reg t3 too so i wouldnt be only one

proving its case.

-alexis

>

> Steph,

>

> Can I ask who the Dr. was in South Bend? I am about 3 hours away from him. You

must be desperate to come so far. There isn't any docs in your area or closer

than Indiana?

>

> Just my two cents, but the Dr. I go to now, treats with SRT3 and dessicated,

but he is worried about my TSH being so suppressed, so I may have to find a new

Dr. I am taking 120mg SRT3 and according to my Dr. I should be overstimulated

but I am not. The little bit of SRT3 this guy recommended sounds too low, but I

don't know...

>

> Mcgragor

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: RT3_T3

> Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 9:22:51 PM

> Subject: New Doc recommending SRT3...not sure what to do

>

> Â

> I had a doctor appointment on Tuesday. Went all the way from Norther VA to

South Bend Indiana to see this doc. He confirmed that I indeed do have Adrenal

Fatigue and RT3 dominance. He also confirmed that I have Vitamin D and B12

defficiency. This was all stuff I already knew myself, but wanted to have a doc

help with the treatment. He also told me that I am low in magnesium and in

estrogen, which I did not realize.

>

> Good news is that he treats AF with Hydrocortisone, which I was very pleased

with. Bad news is he insists on treating RT3 dominance with Slow Release T3.

>

> Before I went to see the doc I had already started the T3 only treatment.

Because of the AF I was using Isocort so that I could tolerate the T3. It was

helping, but I'm hoping that the HC will work better. I had slowly over a couple

of months worked my way up from 10 mcg of T3 to 25 mcg of T3. I've been dosing

it at 10, 5, 5, 5 per day. Because of the trip to IN my temps have been quite

unstable over the last week, so am waiting for them to stabalize before

increasing the dose.

>

> Anyway, he has told me to take 25 mg of HC a day, which I'm good with, but

wants me to take 7.5 mcg of SRT3 twice a day! That just doesn't make sense to me

since I'm already on 25 mcg a day. I feel like I will be going backwards and

also feel like the SRT3 will take longer to work. He feels like the T3 is just

too much on the system and causes temps to go all over the place and the body to

have to work too hard.

>

> I don't know what to do. I finally found a doctor who knows how to treat AF,

so don't want to lose that, but I don't agree with his treatment for RT3

dominance. Does anyone have any advise? I was going to point him to Nick's

website with the RT3 info. Are there any other good resources I can point him

to?

>

> Should I start his protocol and see how it goes? I'm just at a loss and would

love to get some advise on what to do.

>

> Thanks,

> Steph

>