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I feel the same way !

Jeffro!

-----Original Message-----From: Brayman Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:21 AMTo: NF2_Crew Subject: RE: Baffled M

Actually Marcus.. I think I do much of the same things.

I feel weirdly proud (rather than needing help) if I can accomplish a "transaction" with someone without admitting to them I'm deaf.

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Pete, I'm 100% deaf and thought and Carol's posts were great!

Jennette

(who carries a pad and paper everywhere she goes and takes responsibility

for herself... and yes, right off the bat tells folks she's deaf instead of

wasting their time and mine, and creating frustration for all involved

frying to pretend otherwise)

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from what I've seen from reading this emails it seems to be

divided by the people who have some hearing saying " You need to educate,

help them out.. " to the deaf people saying " Argggh! " and my own conclusion

is, you can't really know whats it like until you've actually been there. In

the meantime, it's good to vent and get these frustrations out :)

Pete

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True,. for me they probably think it is all perfectly normal. I just came

out of an Arby's; I went in and asked the kid for an kArby's Jr., pointed to

the sign that said they were 1$ and a jamocha shake. Well he mumbled

something, so I had to say, I'm deaf. He mumbled it again. I said look, I

just want one Arby's Jr and a small Jamocha shake. I figured what more did

he need to know! So he says 2.40 and I pay him./ Then he gives me sanwich

and no shake. I said what about the shake. He said, oh I forgot, that is

another 1.50. I said wait a minute, I just paid you $2.40l, it said the

sandwich was 1$. After more of his mumbling and my not understanding, the

manager came over and pointed at the sign $1.49, and apparently if you only

get 1 it is $1.49, the $1.00 is only if you get five! Well by that time I

was so frustrated I said just forget the whole thing. and walked out. Only

when I got in my car did I realize I had already paid $2.40 and left without

anything!!!

THIS is when I hate being deaf! Marie

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>That is because your Polish disability stands out more, Marie

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See, you're POLISH ! hehe. I hate being at that in between stage. If I

don't hear it after a couple of tries people just say forget it and leave me

hangin, even family members, like we really don't count. Then if you push

the issue it's my fault because I'm defective.

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See, you're POLISH ! hehe. I hate being at that in between stage. If I

don't hear it after a couple of tries people just say forget it and leave me

hangin, even family members, like we really don't count. Then if you push

the issue it's my fault because I'm defective.

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i love jamocha shakes:) they are really the only thing i like at

Arbys:)~~Lowi

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i love jamocha shakes:) they are really the only thing i like at

Arbys:)~~Lowi

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> >> >You're SOL if you wanna blend in, . I think everyone around here

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I agree with Mike, as much as I hated deafness I REALLY hated the in between

stage, mainly because as someone else said, people expect you to be making

all the effort and you can get bits and pieces but frustrated when you can't

get everything.

Now being totally deaf is no piece of cake either, still alot of people

expect you to make all the concessions to communicate with them. I do get

annoyed sometimes and try to explain it this way.. They (the people I

interact with) probably only encountered one deaf person that day (me) or at

least a small number, I on the other hand have to deal with deafness and the

difficulty communication with every single person I encounter.

And deep down, I think we all understand what we (deaf) have to do to live

in this world with no hearing and we do it. But it's still extremely

frustrating, and from what I've seen from reading this emails it seems to be

divided by the people who have some hearing saying " You need to educate,

help them out.. " to the deaf people saying " Argggh! " and my own conclusion

is, you can't really know whats it like until you've actually been there. In

the meantime, it's good to vent and get these frustrations out :)

Pete

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See, you're POLISH ! hehe. I hate being at that in between stage. If I

don't hear it after a couple of tries people just say forget it and leave me

hangin, even family members, like we really don't count. Then if you push

the issue it's my fault because I'm defective.

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AMEN! JEN I DO THE SAME THING, NEVER LEAVE HOME WITHOUT PAD AND PEN. AND I

DON'T HESITATE A MINUTE TELLING WHOEVER I AM DEAF IF THEY NEED AN

EXPLANATION THAT MEANS I HEAR NOTHING!

CATHERINE

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>

> Pete, I'm 100% deaf and thought and Carol's posts were great!

>

> Jennette

> (who carries a pad and paper everywhere she goes and takes responsibility

> for herself... and yes, right off the bat tells folks she's deaf

> instead of

> wasting their time and mine, and creating frustration for all involved

> frying to pretend otherwise)

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

>

>

> from what I've seen from reading this emails it seems to be

> divided by the people who have some hearing saying " You need to educate,

> help them out.. " to the deaf people saying " Argggh! " and my own

> conclusion

> is, you can't really know whats it like until you've actually

> been there. In

> the meantime, it's good to vent and get these frustrations out :)

>

> Pete

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oh marie we have all been there. I have been hurt by the dorks working at

mcdonalds more times then the people in my family! I love those jamocha

shakes!!

Marie Drew wrote:

> True,. for me they probably think it is all perfectly normal. I just came

> out of an Arby's; I went in and asked the kid for an kArby's Jr., pointed to

> the sign that said they were 1$ and a jamocha shake. Well he mumbled

> something, so I had to say, I'm deaf. He mumbled it again. I said look, I

> just want one Arby's Jr and a small Jamocha shake. I figured what more did

> he need to know! So he says 2.40 and I pay him./ Then he gives me sanwich

> and no shake. I said what about the shake. He said, oh I forgot, that is

> another 1.50. I said wait a minute, I just paid you $2.40l, it said the

> sandwich was 1$. After more of his mumbling and my not understanding, the

> manager came over and pointed at the sign $1.49, and apparently if you only

> get 1 it is $1.49, the $1.00 is only if you get five! Well by that time I

> was so frustrated I said just forget the whole thing. and walked out. Only

> when I got in my car did I realize I had already paid $2.40 and left without

> anything!!!

> THIS is when I hate being deaf! Marie

> Re: Baffled M

>

> >That is because your Polish disability stands out more, Marie

> > RE: Baffled M

> >>

> >>

> >> >You're SOL if you wanna blend in, . I think everyone around here

> is

> >> >aware of the deaf girl, with bad balance and a crooked smile too. :-/

> >> >

> >> >na

> >> >

> >> >

> >

> >

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oh marie we have all been there. I have been hurt by the dorks working at

mcdonalds more times then the people in my family! I love those jamocha

shakes!!

Marie Drew wrote:

> True,. for me they probably think it is all perfectly normal. I just came

> out of an Arby's; I went in and asked the kid for an kArby's Jr., pointed to

> the sign that said they were 1$ and a jamocha shake. Well he mumbled

> something, so I had to say, I'm deaf. He mumbled it again. I said look, I

> just want one Arby's Jr and a small Jamocha shake. I figured what more did

> he need to know! So he says 2.40 and I pay him./ Then he gives me sanwich

> and no shake. I said what about the shake. He said, oh I forgot, that is

> another 1.50. I said wait a minute, I just paid you $2.40l, it said the

> sandwich was 1$. After more of his mumbling and my not understanding, the

> manager came over and pointed at the sign $1.49, and apparently if you only

> get 1 it is $1.49, the $1.00 is only if you get five! Well by that time I

> was so frustrated I said just forget the whole thing. and walked out. Only

> when I got in my car did I realize I had already paid $2.40 and left without

> anything!!!

> THIS is when I hate being deaf! Marie

> Re: Baffled M

>

> >That is because your Polish disability stands out more, Marie

> > RE: Baffled M

> >>

> >>

> >> >You're SOL if you wanna blend in, . I think everyone around here

> is

> >> >aware of the deaf girl, with bad balance and a crooked smile too. :-/

> >> >

> >> >na

> >> >

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oh marie we have all been there. I have been hurt by the dorks working at

mcdonalds more times then the people in my family! I love those jamocha

shakes!!

Marie Drew wrote:

> True,. for me they probably think it is all perfectly normal. I just came

> out of an Arby's; I went in and asked the kid for an kArby's Jr., pointed to

> the sign that said they were 1$ and a jamocha shake. Well he mumbled

> something, so I had to say, I'm deaf. He mumbled it again. I said look, I

> just want one Arby's Jr and a small Jamocha shake. I figured what more did

> he need to know! So he says 2.40 and I pay him./ Then he gives me sanwich

> and no shake. I said what about the shake. He said, oh I forgot, that is

> another 1.50. I said wait a minute, I just paid you $2.40l, it said the

> sandwich was 1$. After more of his mumbling and my not understanding, the

> manager came over and pointed at the sign $1.49, and apparently if you only

> get 1 it is $1.49, the $1.00 is only if you get five! Well by that time I

> was so frustrated I said just forget the whole thing. and walked out. Only

> when I got in my car did I realize I had already paid $2.40 and left without

> anything!!!

> THIS is when I hate being deaf! Marie

> Re: Baffled M

>

> >That is because your Polish disability stands out more, Marie

> > RE: Baffled M

> >>

> >>

> >> >You're SOL if you wanna blend in, . I think everyone around here

> is

> >> >aware of the deaf girl, with bad balance and a crooked smile too. :-/

> >> >

> >> >na

> >> >

> >> >

> >

> >

> >

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Here here, Pete! I know that most of us KNOW that the hearing people we

deal with are not educated, they just don't KNOW what to do etc etc, but man

oh man, the frustrations we have to deal with day after day when people

don't have simple common sense... we NEED a place where we can go to vent

and not have someone telling us we're wrong to feel the way we do.

na

PS I love you too, Carol. :) This has been an interesting topic!

Re: Baffled M

See, you're POLISH ! hehe. I hate being at that in between stage. If I

don't hear it after a couple of tries people just say forget it and leave me

hangin, even family members, like we really don't count. Then if you push

the issue it's my fault because I'm defective.

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Here here, Pete! I know that most of us KNOW that the hearing people we

deal with are not educated, they just don't KNOW what to do etc etc, but man

oh man, the frustrations we have to deal with day after day when people

don't have simple common sense... we NEED a place where we can go to vent

and not have someone telling us we're wrong to feel the way we do.

na

PS I love you too, Carol. :) This has been an interesting topic!

Re: Baffled M

See, you're POLISH ! hehe. I hate being at that in between stage. If I

don't hear it after a couple of tries people just say forget it and leave me

hangin, even family members, like we really don't count. Then if you push

the issue it's my fault because I'm defective.

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