side effects?

April 4, 2005

I have never heard of this and I can't say unless your having some anxiaty.

This can make you feel on edge. For me my E2 did this to me it was to high and

I started feeling a lot of anxiaty along with Panic attacks in the middle of the

night. My T meds convert into E2 Estradiol easy so I have to say on top of it.

Phil

usa_crusader1 <usa_crusader1@...> wrote:

could the T shots make one more violent? people have said sense i

started to take the shots i have gotten more hostile is it possable it

could be the shots?

---------------------------------

April 5, 2005

>

> could the T shots make one more violent? people have said sense i

> started to take the shots i have gotten more hostile is it possable it

> could be the shots?

I was more irritable before I started treatment.

Do you agree that you are more hostile? How did these people know you

were on shots? Is it possible that you are just more energetic and

more assertive? That might come off as hostile to those who are used

to you being more of a doormat.

Brad

April 5, 2005

people at school and in my family. i was hostial befor but ehy say i

seem more willing to fight now. who knows it may be some thing else.

they thought it may be the shots beacuse i started to be more

aggresive not too long after starting them. who knows. and i told

them i was on the shots about a month ago but the princeapal knew at

the begginning of the school year and i see him every say (study

hall i have not done any thing too bad yet this year...). i do seem

more energetic i think. i know i have been board with just siting

that in school or playing PS2 and i want to go out and train on my

martial arts or work. as for me thinking i am more hostial, maby. i

have had some interesting thoughts, some i rather not talk about,

but other consist of me crushing some ones neck but i think thats

has to do with me hateing the people.

as for being a doormat all i have to say is beware of the shy and

quiet ones...especialy thoes known to attack with yard sticks and

2x4s >)

> >

> > could the T shots make one more violent? people have said sense

i

> > started to take the shots i have gotten more hostile is it

possable it

> > could be the shots?

>

> I was more irritable before I started treatment.

>

> Do you agree that you are more hostile? How did these people know

you

> were on shots? Is it possible that you are just more energetic and

> more assertive? That might come off as hostile to those who are

used

> to you being more of a doormat.

>

> Brad

April 6, 2005

>

> people at school and in my family. i was hostial befor but ehy say i

> seem more willing to fight now. who knows it may be some thing else.

> they thought it may be the shots beacuse i started to be more

> aggresive not too long after starting them. who knows. and i told

> them i was on the shots about a month ago but the princeapal knew at

> the begginning of the school year and i see him every say (study

> hall i have not done any thing too bad yet this year...). i do seem

> more energetic i think. i know i have been board with just siting

> that in school or playing PS2 and i want to go out and train on my

> martial arts or work. as for me thinking i am more hostial, maby. i

> have had some interesting thoughts, some i rather not talk about,

> but other consist of me crushing some ones neck but i think thats

> has to do with me hateing the people.

>

> as for being a doormat all i have to say is beware of the shy and

> quiet ones...especialy thoes known to attack with yard sticks and

> 2x4s >)

>

I'm a long way away and I don't know you so I don't really know what's

going on with you. Obviously, I don't think physically fighting is

appropriate. Maybe you have good cause to be angry about certain

things. Anger isn't necessarily an inappropriate emotion. It's what

you do about it that counts. It would be useful to learn to express

anger in a productive and constructive way regardless of whether the

shots are contributing to it or not. Bundling it up inside and never

expressing anything makes me more likely to explode in a poorly

controlled rage. Martial arts or some other type of exercise seems

like good and useful way to burn off some excess energy.

I don't know whether you overreact to situations or not. You'll have

to make that assessment yourself. If you discuss a particular

situation with an objective person not involved in a conflict with

you, you might get some good feedback.

It seems to be a cultural belief that testosterone makes men violent

or aggressive. People may interpret your behavior as

testosterone-related because they are expecting that. It can be a

kind of cheap shot by putting all the blame on you (or testosterone)

instead of acknowledging some degree of culpability on their part.

It's like having an argument with a woman and blaming it on her

menstrual cycle instead of acknowledging that you've done something

wrong or are at least part of the problem.

Since violence is a non-starter and discontinuing treatment isn't

practical, I'd look into find a counselor or psycotherapist you trust

to help you out. My guess is that this stuff was inside you before

and the testosterone adds enough drive and energy to bring it to the

surface more than before.

Good luck my friend,

Brad

April 6, 2005

ok so what i am getting is that the shot may be hightening my

aggresion but most likely not, and that i should get a hold of the

doc or a differnt one. i am also getting that maby i should trian

more to get rid of pent up energe and that may be making me

aggresive. has it ever been documented that if 2 guys start to get

at it can excess T make it more likely to fight? i mean not all

together aggresive but just when the other guy just insests on

making you mad.

are my questions getting stupid?

> >

> > people at school and in my family. i was hostial befor but ehy

say i

> > seem more willing to fight now. who knows it may be some thing

else.

> > they thought it may be the shots beacuse i started to be more

> > aggresive not too long after starting them. who knows. and i

told

> > them i was on the shots about a month ago but the princeapal

knew at

> > the begginning of the school year and i see him every say (study

> > hall i have not done any thing too bad yet this year...). i do

seem

> > more energetic i think. i know i have been board with just

siting

> > that in school or playing PS2 and i want to go out and train on

my

> > martial arts or work. as for me thinking i am more hostial,

maby. i

> > have had some interesting thoughts, some i rather not talk

about,

> > but other consist of me crushing some ones neck but i think

thats

> > has to do with me hateing the people.

> >

> > as for being a doormat all i have to say is beware of the shy

and

> > quiet ones...especialy thoes known to attack with yard sticks

and

> > 2x4s >)

> >

>

> I'm a long way away and I don't know you so I don't really know

what's

> going on with you. Obviously, I don't think physically fighting is

> appropriate. Maybe you have good cause to be angry about certain

> things. Anger isn't necessarily an inappropriate emotion. It's

what

> you do about it that counts. It would be useful to learn to

express

> anger in a productive and constructive way regardless of whether

the

> shots are contributing to it or not. Bundling it up inside and

never

> expressing anything makes me more likely to explode in a poorly

> controlled rage. Martial arts or some other type of exercise seems

> like good and useful way to burn off some excess energy.

>

> I don't know whether you overreact to situations or not. You'll

have

> to make that assessment yourself. If you discuss a particular

> situation with an objective person not involved in a conflict with

> you, you might get some good feedback.

>

> It seems to be a cultural belief that testosterone makes men

violent

> or aggressive. People may interpret your behavior as

> testosterone-related because they are expecting that. It can be a

> kind of cheap shot by putting all the blame on you (or

testosterone)

> instead of acknowledging some degree of culpability on their part.

> It's like having an argument with a woman and blaming it on her

> menstrual cycle instead of acknowledging that you've done something

> wrong or are at least part of the problem.

>

> Since violence is a non-starter and discontinuing treatment isn't

> practical, I'd look into find a counselor or psycotherapist you

trust

> to help you out. My guess is that this stuff was inside you before

> and the testosterone adds enough drive and energy to bring it to

the

> surface more than before.

>

> Good luck my friend,

> Brad

April 6, 2005

>

> ok so what i am getting is that the shot may be hightening my

> aggresion but most likely not, and that i should get a hold of the

> doc or a differnt one. i am also getting that maby i should trian

> more to get rid of pent up energe and that may be making me

> aggresive. has it ever been documented that if 2 guys start to get

> at it can excess T make it more likely to fight? i mean not all

> together aggresive but just when the other guy just insests on

> making you mad.

>

> are my questions getting stupid?

>

It's not stupid at all. How can anyone know with certainty it is the

shot rather than something else, though? From what you wrote it

sounded like this wasn't an entirely new situation but maybe a worsening.

Why not do some training to work out some frustration safely? You

wanted to train anyway. If that's not enough, how bout adding some

counselling to help you cope better with conflict without resorting to

violence? I don't think you need a new doc but if you decide the

testosterone is making you too aggressive you can ask to have your

dose adjusted downward and see if it helps.

I don't know whether the documentation you are asking about exists or

not. Even if such evidence exists, you aren't a machine. You can

still decide to control your behavior.

Brad

June 17, 2009

Please don't think this a shallow question, but how frequently do the alleged

side effects of skin and teeth darkening due to AP treatment occur? I think

feeling good about how one looks goes a long way toward a positive attitude

about oneself and one's health, so I am just wondering if this is a very common

side effect, or one that goes away.

June 17, 2009

Don't know about sunscreen. When I go outside, I try to wear a long sleeved

cotton top with button down fronts so I can whip it off once I am inside.

Sometimes I forget and I alway forget the sunscreen. It make me feel gooey and

actually makes me sweat more and feel clammy. I don't get into the pool until

sundown and then spend about an hour doing aquatic exercises. Then I soak in

the hot tub to ease the muscle pain. ~~~~Dolores & Mike

From: marlaprendergast <kws11@...>

Subject: rheumatic Re: side effects?

rheumatic

Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 10:15 PM

I am a big outdoor person, it makes me feel great, and to stay indoors would be

a death sentence. But I heard that sunscreen makes the problem worse? Is this

true?

>

> From: marlaprendergast <kws11@...>

> Subject: rheumatic side effects?

> rheumatic@grou ps.com

> Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 9:59 PM

>

> Please don't think this a shallow question, but how frequently do the alleged

side effects of skin and teeth darkening due to AP treatment occur? I think

feeling good about how one looks goes a long way toward a positive attitude

about oneself and one's health, so I am just wondering if this is a very common

side effect, or one that goes away.

>

June 18, 2009

My doctor says that most sun blocks are a soup of bad chemicals that

seep into the skin and damage your DNA even more.Try to find a non toxic

one.I don't know if this book is available outside Canada but it sure

will give you an idea of the chemicals we are surrounded by.It's

called Slow Death by Rubber Duckie and is a real eye opener.From the

time you get up to the time you go out the door to work you are already

exposed to 110 chemicals from soap,shampoo,plastic dishes and

makeup.Kind of scarry! Lynne G./SD

>

> I am a big outdoor person, it makes me feel great, and to stay indoors

> would be a death sentence. But I heard that sunscreen makes the

> problem worse? Is this true?

>

> >

> > From: marlaprendergast <kws11@...>

> > Subject: rheumatic side effects?

> > rheumatic <mailto:rheumatic%40>

> > Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 9:59 PM

> >

> > Please don't think this a shallow question, but how frequently do

> the alleged side effects of skin and teeth darkening due to AP

> treatment occur? I think feeling good about how one looks goes a long

> way toward a positive attitude about oneself and one's health, so I am

> just wondering if this is a very common side effect, or one that goes

> away.

> >

June 18, 2009

I have been on Mino for 11 years and just pop in here once in a while. Saw

your note and need to tell you I used to do tanning beds and lay in the sun

while on Minocin. Now I know a lot of people did get brown splotches on

their legs and faces. It was suggested taking vit C daily and it should

help. Tetracycline definitely will make you burn and so will doxy.

Cooky

?

Please don't think this a shallow question, but how frequently do the

alleged side effects of skin and teeth darkening due to AP treatment occur?

I think feeling good about how one looks goes a long way toward a positive

attitude about oneself and one's health, so I am just wondering if this is a

very common side effect, or one that goes away.

__

June 18, 2009

Hi Cooky - how much vita C should one take? Thanks Kathy

> rheumatic

> From: cookee1@...

> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:35:27 -0400

> Subject: RE: rheumatic side effects?

>

> I have been on Mino for 11 years and just pop in here once in a while. Saw

> your note and need to tell you I used to do tanning beds and lay in the sun

> while on Minocin. Now I know a lot of people did get brown splotches on

> their legs and faces. It was suggested taking vit C daily and it should

> help. Tetracycline definitely will make you burn and so will doxy.

>

> Cooky

>

> ?

>

> Please don't think this a shallow question, but how frequently do the

> alleged side effects of skin and teeth darkening due to AP treatment occur?

> I think feeling good about how one looks goes a long way toward a positive

> attitude about oneself and one's health, so I am just wondering if this is a

> very common side effect, or one that goes away.

>

> __

>

June 18, 2009

You may want to look on the facts and answers page

http://rheumatic.org/support.htm because I just take whatever is in my multi

vit. I have not done any sunning for a few years. I am now 62 and I don't

want any more wrinkles! Or maybe Ethel can get on here and maybe she

remembers.

Sorry

cooky

Hi Cooky - how much vita C should one take? Thanks Kathy

>

June 18, 2009

I thought Vitamin C would be bad because it boosts the immune system, which

those with autoimmune diseases are trying to avoid? I was using large doses of

Vitamin C right before I got an iritis attack.

>

> Hi Cooky - how much vita C should one take? Thanks Kathy

>

> > rheumatic

> > From: cookee1@...

> > Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:35:27 -0400

> > Subject: RE: rheumatic side effects?

> >

> > I have been on Mino for 11 years and just pop in here once in a while. Saw

> > your note and need to tell you I used to do tanning beds and lay in the sun

> > while on Minocin. Now I know a lot of people did get brown splotches on

> > their legs and faces. It was suggested taking vit C daily and it should

> > help. Tetracycline definitely will make you burn and so will doxy.

> >

> > Cooky

> >

> > ?

> >

> > Please don't think this a shallow question, but how frequently do the

> > alleged side effects of skin and teeth darkening due to AP treatment occur?

> > I think feeling good about how one looks goes a long way toward a positive

> > attitude about oneself and one's health, so I am just wondering if this is a

> > very common side effect, or one that goes away.

> >

> > __

> >

June 18, 2009

On this list we all take antibiotics to kill mycoplasmas which we feel is

the cause of our autoimmunes so therefore we want to strengthen not kill our

immune systems. If you are new here and do not know about mycoplasmas and

antibiotics please go to http://rheumatic.org/support.htm where you will

find a wealth of information. After you read about it and have more

questions we will be glad to answer any other questions.

cooky

I thought Vitamin C would be bad because it boosts the immune system, which

those with autoimmune diseases are trying to avoid? I was using large doses

of Vitamin C right before I got an iritis attack.

June 18, 2009

Marla;

Vit C is not recomended for those with SD only.It is needed for

collagen production,not a thing SDers want any more of. Lynne G./SD

>

> I thought Vitamin C would be bad because it boosts the immune system,

> which those with autoimmune diseases are trying to avoid? I was using

> large doses of Vitamin C right before I got an iritis attack.

>

> >

> > Hi Cooky - how much vita C should one take? Thanks Kathy

> >

> > > rheumatic <mailto:rheumatic%40>

> > > From: cookee1@...

> > > Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:35:27 -0400

> > > Subject: RE: rheumatic side effects?

> > >

> > > I have been on Mino for 11 years and just pop in here once in a

> while. Saw

> > > your note and need to tell you I used to do tanning beds and lay

> in the sun

> > > while on Minocin. Now I know a lot of people did get brown

> splotches on

> > > their legs and faces. It was suggested taking vit C daily and it

> should

> > > help. Tetracycline definitely will make you burn and so will doxy.

> > >

> > > Cooky

> > >

> > > ?

> > >

> > > Please don't think this a shallow question, but how frequently do the

> > > alleged side effects of skin and teeth darkening due to AP

> treatment occur?

> > > I think feeling good about how one looks goes a long way toward a

> positive

> > > attitude about oneself and one's health, so I am just wondering if

> this is a

> > > very common side effect, or one that goes away.

> > >

> > > __

> > >

June 18, 2009

I had thought and read the same thing, and from what my doctor read and has

found that is not true. I've read both sides. I've been told that vit c help

produce healthy collagen.

does anyone actually have any research that actually answers this question?

roni

RE: rheumatic side effects?

> > > >

> > > > I have been on Mino for 11 years and just pop in here once in a

> > while. Saw

> > > > your note and need to tell you I used to do tanning beds and lay

> > in the sun

> > > > while on Minocin. Now I know a lot of people did get brown

> > splotches on

> > > > their legs and faces. It was suggested taking vit C daily and it

> > should

> > > > help. Tetracycline definitely will make you burn and so will doxy.

> > > >

> > > > Cooky

> > > >

> > > > ?

> > > >

> > > > Please don't think this a shallow question, but how frequently do the

> > > > alleged side effects of skin and teeth darkening due to AP

> > treatment occur?

> > > > I think feeling good about how one looks goes a long way toward a

> > positive

> > > > attitude about oneself and one's health, so I am just wondering if

> > this is a

> > > > very common side effect, or one that goes away.

> > > >

> > > > __

> > > >

June 19, 2009

So, what is the answer to the Vit C question with SD'ers who got brown splotches

from the sun that never goes away. I am an SD'er who got brown from walking

around the tropics 2 years ago and was told to take Vit C by a doc. Well, I

hate taking any more pills and since I also have diabetes type 2, I can't drink

O.J., which I would love, so, I just let it go and didn't take anything. The

brown faded a little, but notice that now just a dash from car to store and my

arms are getting brown again. I didn't know that Vit C boosted collagen

production. Where does it say that?

Went to doc today. I am negative for Sjrogen's, yeah! My ANA also came back

negative for the first time since 2005. Doc thinks this is a mistake, so I had

a redraw. The hip still hurts. Will have the fluid tested on Monday by an

ortho surgeon. Then next Friday we leave for P.R. again. My daughter is

flying in to take care of Mom. I can sure use the relief. Taking care of an

Alzheimers patient can sure be draining.

Haven't done exercises in the pool for the last two days. My entire right side

feel like I've been hit by a car. I ache from the neck down to the leg. So,

Ben Gay and I are sleeping together again and the moist heat thing is with us

too. Will take sun screen back to the tropics with me and see what happens.

Take care, Best to all~~~~Dolores & Mike

From: rbarna dejazzd.com <rbarna@...>

Subject: Re: rheumatic Re: side effects?

rheumatic

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 10:24 PM

I had thought and read the same thing, and from what my doctor read and has

found that is not true. I've read both sides. I've been told that vit c help

produce healthy collagen.

does anyone actually have any research that actually answers this question?

roni

RE: rheumatic side effects?

> > > >

> > > > I have been on Mino for 11 years and just pop in here once in a

> > while. Saw

> > > > your note and need to tell you I used to do tanning beds and lay

> > in the sun

> > > > while on Minocin. Now I know a lot of people did get brown

> > splotches on

> > > > their legs and faces. It was suggested taking vit C daily and it

> > should

> > > > help. Tetracycline definitely will make you burn and so will doxy.

> > > >

> > > > Cooky

> > > >

> > > > ?

> > > >

> > > > Please don't think this a shallow question, but how frequently do the

> > > > alleged side effects of skin and teeth darkening due to AP

> > treatment occur?

> > > > I think feeling good about how one looks goes a long way toward a

> > positive

> > > > attitude about oneself and one's health, so I am just wondering if

> > this is a

> > > > very common side effect, or one that goes away.

> > > >

> > > > __

> > > >

June 19, 2009

No, that is backward. The immune system must be boosted in order to fight off

the invading micoplasmas. Dolores & Mike

From: Lynne and Santos <lynneandsantos@...>

Subject: Re: rheumatic Re: side effects?

rheumatic

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 9:14 PM

Marla;

Vit C is not recomended for those with SD only.It is needed for

collagen production,not a thing SDers want any more of. Lynne G./SD

>

> I thought Vitamin C would be bad because it boosts the immune system,

> which those with autoimmune diseases are trying to avoid? I was using

> large doses of Vitamin C right before I got an iritis attack.

>

> >

> > Hi Cooky - how much vita C should one take? Thanks Kathy

> >

> > > rheumatic@grou ps.com <mailto:rheumatic% 40groups. com>

> > > From: cookee1@...

> > > Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:35:27 -0400

> > > Subject: RE: rheumatic side effects?

> > >

> > > I have been on Mino for 11 years and just pop in here once in a

> while. Saw

> > > your note and need to tell you I used to do tanning beds and lay

> in the sun

> > > while on Minocin. Now I know a lot of people did get brown

> splotches on

> > > their legs and faces. It was suggested taking vit C daily and it

> should

> > > help. Tetracycline definitely will make you burn and so will doxy.

> > >

> > > Cooky

> > >

> > > ?

> > >

> > > Please don't think this a shallow question, but how frequently do the

> > > alleged side effects of skin and teeth darkening due to AP

> treatment occur?

> > > I think feeling good about how one looks goes a long way toward a

> positive

> > > attitude about oneself and one's health, so I am just wondering if

> this is a

> > > very common side effect, or one that goes away.

> > >

> > > __

> > >

June 19, 2009

Dolores,

have you tried Ester C, it is supposedly be better than just regular C. I always

had a problem with too much C acid and since I started the Ester C I can handle

it better

Eva

From: rbarna dejazzd.com <rbarnadejazzd (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: rheumatic Re: side effects?

rheumatic@grou ps.com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 10:24 PM

I had thought and read the same thing, and from what my doctor read and has

found that is not true. I've read both sides. I've been told that vit c help

produce healthy collagen.

does anyone actually have any research that actually answers this question?

roni

RE: rheumatic side effects?

> > > >

> > > > I have been on Mino for 11 years and just pop in here once in a

> > while. Saw

> > > > your note and need to tell you I used to do tanning beds and lay

> > in the sun

> > > > while on Minocin. Now I know a lot of people did get brown

> > splotches on

> > > > their legs and faces. It was suggested taking vit C daily and it

> > should

> > > > help. Tetracycline definitely will make you burn and so will doxy.

> > > >

> > > > Cooky

> > > >

> > > > ?

> > > >

> > > > Please don't think this a shallow question, but how frequently do the

> > > > alleged side effects of skin and teeth darkening due to AP

> > treatment occur?

> > > > I think feeling good about how one looks goes a long way toward a

> > positive

> > > > attitude about oneself and one's health, so I am just wondering if

> > this is a

> > > > very common side effect, or one that goes away.

> > > >

> > > > __

> > > >

June 19, 2009

Hi Eva, No, I haven't tried Ester C. Thank you for the tip. Will pick some up

next trip to the pharmacy. How much do you take per day? Take

care,~~~~Dolores & Mike

From: rbarna dejazzd.com <rbarnadejazzd (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: rheumatic Re: side effects?

rheumatic@grou ps.com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 10:24 PM

I had thought and read the same thing, and from what my doctor read and has

found that is not true. I've read both sides. I've been told that vit c help

produce healthy collagen.

does anyone actually have any research that actually answers this question?

roni

RE: rheumatic side effects?

> > > >

> > > > I have been on Mino for 11 years and just pop in here once in a

> > while. Saw

> > > > your note and need to tell you I used to do tanning beds and lay

> > in the sun

> > > > while on Minocin. Now I know a lot of people did get brown

> > splotches on

> > > > their legs and faces. It was suggested taking vit C daily and it

> > should

> > > > help. Tetracycline definitely will make you burn and so will doxy.

> > > >

> > > > Cooky

> > > >

> > > > ?

> > > >

> > > > Please don't think this a shallow question, but how frequently do the

> > > > alleged side effects of skin and teeth darkening due to AP

> > treatment occur?

> > > > I think feeling good about how one looks goes a long way toward a

> > positive

> > > > attitude about oneself and one's health, so I am just wondering if

> > this is a

> > > > very common side effect, or one that goes away.

> > > >

> > > > __

> > > >

June 19, 2009

right now I take two a day and will increase next month to three. Take care of

both of you.

Eva

From: rbarna dejazzd.com <rbarnadejazzd (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: rheumatic Re: side effects?

rheumatic@grou ps.com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 10:24 PM

I had thought and read the same thing, and from what my doctor read and has

found that is not true. I've read both sides. I've been told that vit c help

produce healthy collagen.

does anyone actually have any research that actually answers this question?

roni

RE: rheumatic side effects?

> > > >

> > > > I have been on Mino for 11 years and just pop in here once in a

> > while. Saw

> > > > your note and need to tell you I used to do tanning beds and lay

> > in the sun

> > > > while on Minocin. Now I know a lot of people did get brown

> > splotches on

> > > > their legs and faces. It was suggested taking vit C daily and it

> > should

> > > > help. Tetracycline definitely will make you burn and so will doxy.

> > > >

> > > > Cooky

> > > >

> > > > ?

> > > >

> > > > Please don't think this a shallow question, but how frequently do the

> > > > alleged side effects of skin and teeth darkening due to AP

> > treatment occur?

> > > > I think feeling good about how one looks goes a long way toward a

> > positive

> > > > attitude about oneself and one's health, so I am just wondering if

> > this is a

> > > > very common side effect, or one that goes away.

> > > >

> > > > __

> > > >

June 19, 2009

Ok! Likewise, Thank you. Dolores & Mike

From: rbarna dejazzd.com <rbarnadejazzd (DOT) com>

Subject: Re: rheumatic Re: side effects?

rheumatic@grou ps.com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 10:24 PM

I had thought and read the same thing, and from what my doctor read and has

found that is not true. I've read both sides. I've been told that vit c help

produce healthy collagen.

does anyone actually have any research that actually answers this question?

roni

RE: rheumatic side effects?

> > > >

> > > > I have been on Mino for 11 years and just pop in here once in a

> > while. Saw

> > > > your note and need to tell you I used to do tanning beds and lay

> > in the sun

> > > > while on Minocin. Now I know a lot of people did get brown

> > splotches on

> > > > their legs and faces. It was suggested taking vit C daily and it

> > should

> > > > help. Tetracycline definitely will make you burn and so will doxy.

> > > >

> > > > Cooky

> > > >

> > > > ?

> > > >

> > > > Please don't think this a shallow question, but how frequently do the

> > > > alleged side effects of skin and teeth darkening due to AP

> > treatment occur?

> > > > I think feeling good about how one looks goes a long way toward a

> > positive

> > > > attitude about oneself and one's health, so I am just wondering if

> > this is a

> > > > very common side effect, or one that goes away.

> > > >

> > > > __

> > > >

June 19, 2009

I am one of those Scleroderma patients in remission - meaning I am off all

minocin and iv's.? I continue to take my Ascorbic Acid Powder - I use NOW brand

because it is less expensive.? Every night for the past 10 years probably, I use

1/2 tsp ascorbic acid powder, a scoop of what I call my swamp drink but it is

Tony Robbins health drink, and 8 drops of Grapefruit Seed Extract drops (also

inexpensive) to help?keep yeast production at bay.?? It has always been my

understanding that there is good collagen and bad.? I am an SDer who believes in

my ascorbic acid.? I also have taken Vitamin K all these many years.? Those two

items together kept my spots away.? Or perhaps I was just very lucky.??? I also

found a purple drink powder which I also use now.? I simply mix all of these

together and while I don't crave the drink, I guess I have gotten so used to it

that it is just a little drink to be done each night.? In remission for going on

five years now.?? Fain?? ps? I STILL continue to take my supplements.? As

long as I can afford them, I don't intend to stop.

Re: rheumatic Re: side effects?

rheumatic@grou ps.com

Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 10:24 PM

I had thought and read the same thing, and from what my doctor read and has

found that is not true. I've read both sides. I've been told that vit c help

produce healthy collagen.

does anyone actually have any research that actually answers this question?

roni

RE: rheumatic side effects?

> > > >

> > > > I have been on Mino for 11 years and just pop in here once in a

> > while. Saw

> > > > your note and need to tell you I used to do tanning beds and lay

> > in the sun

> > > > while on Minocin. Now I know a lot of people did get brown

> > splotches on

> > > > their legs and faces. It was suggested taking vit C daily and it

> > should

> > > > help. Tetracycline definitely will make you burn and so will doxy.

> > > >

> > > > Cooky

> > > >

> > > > ?

> > > >

> > > > Please don't think this a shallow question, but how frequently do the

> > > > alleged side effects of skin and teeth darkening due to AP

> > treatment occur?

> > > > I think feeling good about how one looks goes a long way toward a

> > positive

> > > > attitude about oneself and one's health, so I am just wondering if

> > this is a

> > > > very common side effect, or one that goes away.

> > > >

> > > > __

> > > >

June 20, 2009

Vitamin K helps me a LOT. Vit c is said to lower copper, which is

inflammatory when high.

Amy

Sltfain@... wrote:

>

> I am one of those Scleroderma patients in remission - meaning I am off

> all minocin and iv's.? I continue to take my Ascorbic Acid Powder - I

> use NOW brand because it is less expensive.? Every night for the past

> 10 years probably, I use 1/2 tsp ascorbic acid powder, a scoop of what

> I call my swamp drink but it is Tony Robbins health drink, and 8 drops

> of Grapefruit Seed Extract drops (also inexpensive) to help?keep yeast

> production at bay.?? It has always been my understanding that there is

> good collagen and bad.? I am an SDer who believes in my ascorbic

> acid.? I also have taken Vitamin K all these many years.? Those two

> items together kept my spots away.? Or perhaps I was just very

> lucky.??? I also found a purple drink powder which I also use now.? I

> simply mix all of these together and while I don't crave the drink, I

> guess I have gotten so used to it that it is just a little drink to be

> done each night.? In remission for going on five years now.??

> Fain?? ps? ! I STILL continue to take my supplements.? As long as I

> can afford them, I don't intend to stop.

>

> Re: rheumatic Re: side effects?

> rheumatic@grou ps.com

> Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 10:24 PM

>

> I had thought and read the same thing, and from what my doctor read

> and has found that is not true. I've read both sides. I've been told

> that vit c help produce healthy collagen.

>

> does anyone actually have any research that actually answers this

> question?

>

> roni

>

> RE: rheumatic side effects?

> > > > >

> > > > > I have been on Mino for 11 years and just pop in here once in a

> > > while. Saw

> > > > > your note and need to tell you I used to do tanning beds and lay

> > > in the sun

> > > > > while on Minocin. Now I know a lot of people did get brown

> > > splotches on

> > > > > their legs and faces. It was suggested taking vit C daily and it

> > > should

> > > > > help. Tetracycline definitely will make you burn and so will doxy.

> > > > >

> > > > > Cooky

> > > > >

> > > > > ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Please don't think this a shallow question, but how frequently

> do the

> > > > > alleged side effects of skin and teeth darkening due to AP

> > > treatment occur?

> > > > > I think feeling good about how one looks goes a long way toward a

> > > positive

> > > > > attitude about oneself and one's health, so I am just

> wondering if

> > > this is a

> > > > > very common side effect, or one that goes away.

> > > > >

> > > > > __

> > > > >

June 21, 2009

Hello,

what is the purple drink?

your every night drink is vit. c half tsp and 8 drops of grapefruit seed

extract, what brand, strength?

is the combination extremely bitter? do you add water, juice to it?

thank you,

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From: Evanesce@...

Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:55:16 -0400