Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 I posted the other day regarding my dose of 2.5mcg Slow Release T3 not lasting the 12 hrs, you advised taking it every 8 hrs as this would also increase the dose as well. I'm now on my second day of 8hrly and so far so good, what would be the next step when it comes to raising again, what would be the best way to increase? Would increasing all three doses be too much all at once? Would you mind giving me a little schedule of how you would do it? Also does it matter so much with slow release when you take supplements like Iron etc; as I know that it matters with the standard T3? Thanks so much Sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2010 Report Share Posted April 26, 2010 > >You mention in a previous post about how someone with Type 2 hypoT may need higher doses and over range numbers to feel at their best. Can someone have Hashi's and also have Type 2 hypoT??? In principal yes, there is nothing to say you only have one thing at a time wrong. The definition of type 2 hypo is " cellular resistance " , needing more than " normal " levels in order for it to get through, it's a parallel of type 2 diabetes. The " knock on " effect is if you treat type 2 with T4 or T4/T3 combination then you are in a vicious circle with RT3 being produced due to excess T4. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2010 Report Share Posted April 26, 2010 > >You mention in a previous post about how someone with Type 2 hypoT may need higher doses and over range numbers to feel at their best. Can someone have Hashi's and also have Type 2 hypoT??? In principal yes, there is nothing to say you only have one thing at a time wrong. The definition of type 2 hypo is " cellular resistance " , needing more than " normal " levels in order for it to get through, it's a parallel of type 2 diabetes. The " knock on " effect is if you treat type 2 with T4 or T4/T3 combination then you are in a vicious circle with RT3 being produced due to excess T4. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2010 Report Share Posted April 26, 2010 That's interesting. I have hashis and I always felt my best when my tsh was around .02 while I was on the old Armour. The dr always thought that I was hyper but didn't change my dose because I resisted her to change it. Too bad she's turned into a typical dr now and I have to find one who will help me. :(Sent from my BlackBerry SmartphoneDate: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 13:47:54 +0100To: <RT3_T3 >Subject: Re: Question for Nick >>You mention in a previous post about how someone with Type 2 hypoT may need higher doses and over range numbers to feel at their best. Can someone have Hashi's and also have Type 2 hypoT???In principal yes, there is nothing to say you only have one thing at atime wrong.The definition of type 2 hypo is " cellular resistance " , needing morethan " normal " levels in order for it to get through, it's a parallelof type 2 diabetes.The " knock on " effect is if you treat type 2 with T4 or T4/T3combination then you are in a vicious circle with RT3 being produceddue to excess T4.Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2010 Report Share Posted April 26, 2010 That's interesting. I have hashis and I always felt my best when my tsh was around .02 while I was on the old Armour. The dr always thought that I was hyper but didn't change my dose because I resisted her to change it. Too bad she's turned into a typical dr now and I have to find one who will help me. :(Sent from my BlackBerry SmartphoneDate: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 13:47:54 +0100To: <RT3_T3 >Subject: Re: Question for Nick >>You mention in a previous post about how someone with Type 2 hypoT may need higher doses and over range numbers to feel at their best. Can someone have Hashi's and also have Type 2 hypoT???In principal yes, there is nothing to say you only have one thing at atime wrong.The definition of type 2 hypo is " cellular resistance " , needing morethan " normal " levels in order for it to get through, it's a parallelof type 2 diabetes.The " knock on " effect is if you treat type 2 with T4 or T4/T3combination then you are in a vicious circle with RT3 being produceddue to excess T4.Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2010 Report Share Posted April 26, 2010 > >That's interesting. I have hashis and I always felt my best when my tsh was around .02 while I was on the old Armour. The dr always thought that I was hyper but didn't change my dose because I resisted her to change it. From the sttm site talking about dosing Natural. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/things-we-have-learned/ >What to look for when dosing: To find our opti mal dose, wise doc tors dose by three criteria in no particu lar order: 1) the complete elimination of symptoms, 2) a mid-afternoon temp of 98.6, using a mercury or liquid-interior ther mometer, plus a normal hear trate, and 3) a free T3 towards the top of the range, no matter how low it will get the TSH. The three criteria have to be in conjunction with plenty of cortisol, whether from healthy adrenals or cortisol support. (If cortisol is too low, we can hyper symptoms which need to be addressed). Dosing by the elimination of symptoms was done success fully for decades before the TSH came into existence in 1973, and we are repeating that success. The free T3 being in the upper part of the range is simply another guide (and we make sure that we do NOT take desiccated thyroid before our labs, which only results in a false high reading) Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2010 Report Share Posted April 26, 2010 > >That's interesting. I have hashis and I always felt my best when my tsh was around .02 while I was on the old Armour. The dr always thought that I was hyper but didn't change my dose because I resisted her to change it. From the sttm site talking about dosing Natural. http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/things-we-have-learned/ >What to look for when dosing: To find our opti mal dose, wise doc tors dose by three criteria in no particu lar order: 1) the complete elimination of symptoms, 2) a mid-afternoon temp of 98.6, using a mercury or liquid-interior ther mometer, plus a normal hear trate, and 3) a free T3 towards the top of the range, no matter how low it will get the TSH. The three criteria have to be in conjunction with plenty of cortisol, whether from healthy adrenals or cortisol support. (If cortisol is too low, we can hyper symptoms which need to be addressed). Dosing by the elimination of symptoms was done success fully for decades before the TSH came into existence in 1973, and we are repeating that success. The free T3 being in the upper part of the range is simply another guide (and we make sure that we do NOT take desiccated thyroid before our labs, which only results in a false high reading) Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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