Guest guest Posted April 1, 2002 Report Share Posted April 1, 2002 The steer on the organic farm also had an open door to an outdoor pen and could come and go as they pleased. Suze Fisher Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/ mailto:s.fisher22@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2002 Report Share Posted April 1, 2002 Dear Suze Sorry for the name spelling, didn't catch it before it went out. I didn't think you were yelling at anyone, its just that I deal with uninformed consumers every day and its no fault of theirs either, but it blows me away how many people don't have a clue as to what has happened to the food chain in this country. They assume that what the price is on the package is the profit a farmer receives. Ha!! I wish, the current average of dollar spent by consumers that reaches the farmer has now dropped below 24 cents. Not much in face of those houses you mentioned and the taxes they raise no matter the land use. We need intellegent people like yourself to yell at those who create the system we now have to operate in as well as except the price pressure it creates. Did you get the Power Steer article posted today?? great article and very good as to the info of the commercial beef industry. I spent 5 summers 30 miles from that feed lot and 36 just like it. Pokey feed yard was small compaired to most. And the waste, it wasn't even good fertilizer, way to acidic to use on the acidic soils surrounding the yards. The corn thats mentioned is grown (25% anyway) around the yards (50 miles) which depended on irrigation to grow and farmers wells were running dry(ogalalla aquafer) in 1979. Can't think it has gotten much better, not only that, they are now moving in 10,000 cow dairies from California do duplicate the dairies as the feed lots have done. i don't get it, it is in no way shape or form sustainable, just like the houses near the farm you visit, where are we going to grow the food? Thanks for supporting the small farmer, some times we have more to do that day than clean the pens, and some days that all i wish I had to do, that craps alot easier to deal with than that thrown about by state goverment. Tim Suze Fisher wrote: > The steer on the organic farm also had an open door to an outdoor pen and > could come and go as they pleased. > > Suze Fisher > Web Design & Development > http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/ > mailto:s.fisher22@... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2002 Report Share Posted April 1, 2002 >>>>Dear Suze Sorry for the name spelling, didn't catch it before it went out. ***No problem! " Suez " actually has a nice ring to it. <g> >>>>Did you get the Power Steer article posted today?? ***Yes, I read it and posted the link to some of my other lists. I also encouraged my parents to read the article since they get the NY Times and it's the cover story in the NYT magazine. They pretty much already know about it because my mom is a former journalist who wrote about stuff like this when I was a kid. When I was excitedly describing the article's contents to her, she said she knows because it's been going on for decades. Not sure why she was still buying meat from the grocery store then, but I'm gently guiding my folks to a more NT/WAPish diet. Although I'm sure my mom would describe my style more as 'steamrolling.' <BG> >>>Can't think it has gotten much better, not only that, they are now moving in 10,000 cow dairies from California do duplicate the dairies as the feed lots have done. ***Oh joy! >>>Thanks for supporting the small farmer, some times we have more to do that day than clean the pens, and some days that all i wish I had to do, that craps alot easier to deal with than that thrown about by state goverment. Tim ***Well put Suze Fisher Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/ mailto:s.fisher22@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2002 Report Share Posted April 1, 2002 Lot of irony here in relation to Native Americans, Tim. The Pokey feed yard more than likely was part of original reservation lands given to the Ogalalla nearly a century ago. Its proximity to Bear Butte, their sacred mountain tells me this. More than likely the government took the land back to sell grazing rights similar to taking other portions where uranium was found. I know of some Oglalla beef raisers on Pine Ridge now. Its nearly impossible to get help of any kind wheather it be subsidies or loans to keep their heads above water. The damage the feedlots, irrigation and mining have done to the water quality and supply is unbelievable. Wanita At 09:41 PM 3/31/02 -0600, Tim wrote: >Did you get the Power Steer article posted today?? >great article and very good as to the info of the commercial beef industry. I >spent 5 summers 30 miles from that feed lot and 36 just like it. Pokey feed >yard was small compaired to most. And the waste, it wasn't even good >fertilizer, way to acidic to use on the acidic soils surrounding the yards. >The corn thats mentioned is grown (25% anyway) around the yards (50 miles) >which depended on irrigation to grow and farmers wells were running >dry(ogalalla aquafer) in 1979. Can't think it has gotten much better, not >only that, they are now moving in 10,000 cow dairies from California do >duplicate the dairies as the feed lots have done. >Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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