Root Canals

[Guest guest]

Where are you having this done ????

Carole

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Could you explain to me wy you are having this done?????

Carole

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Niestepski wrote:

>

> What is gutta percha?

>

> - CDN

It is my understanding that is what they fill the canals with after the

nerve is smashed by the dentist. Back to sci.med.denistry news group -

I've read that there is Biocalyx or some such that is new. I assume it

is better? MA

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>

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Chemet is DMPS I believe

Hi ,

Chemet is actually DMSA, I have a bottle I couldn't take still in the

freezer and that's what it says. So is Captomer.

Not sure if there's a " brand " name for DMPS.

Donna in NC

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C3814@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 4/3/01 1:28:24 AM Central Daylight Time,

> thunderchicken57@... writes:

>

> <<

> >>

> Where are you having this done?

Just my local doctor for urine test. It worked before w/o having to

take anything. Insofar as replacing fillings or yanking teeth, don't

know yet. Probably won't for a month. MA

>

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C3814@... wrote:

>

> Could you explain to me wy you are having this done?????

>

> Carole

I'm checking all options, same as everyone else. I do not believe that

anyone wants to be toothless. It is a choice, taking a chance,

gambling, that *maybe* if we get rid of metal and/or infected root

canaled teeth, we might feel better. MA

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Carole, I am 47. I was so much worse before I got some of my rootcanals

that were infected (and osteonecrosis, mylitis can and does spread). I

would rather be vertical and working with a semblance of a life, then

horizontal and not working with a perfect smile. Perhaps I could have kept

my teeth if I avoided the modern diet years ago, but I certainly wouldn't

let it stop me from gaining health now. The choice was/is very clear to me.

No contest.

> Please can you explain why anyone would wnat to be toothless........in the

> name of CFIDS????? You people that talk of this are soooo young......why

are

> you so desperate at such a young age? I care and I am very interested.

>

> Carole

[Guest guest]

Could someone please post the AMALGAMS list site address.

[Guest guest]

Some dentists who believe that a root canal can lead to health problems

advocate removal of the tooth. I have read many articles that say that any

tooth with a root canal should be removed if the person is suffering

various health problems, and/or is having problems with that very tooth or

problems in the vicinity of the tooth.

Here are a couple of websites about NICO: Neuralgia Inducing Cavitational

(forming a cavity) Osteonecrosis (dead and dying bone)

http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/NICOIntro.htm

http://maxillofacialcenter.com/

Also - just look out on .com and search for " Meinig " . He wrote

2 books " Root Canal Cover-up " and " Root Canal Cover-up Exposed " all about

root canal teeth and those books also have some information on NICO.

Here is one of the articles out from the search - an interview with

Meinig:

http://www.whale.to/d/meinig.html

NICO has treatment. Check the Dr. Bouquot website - He is a pathologist

who specializes in looking for evidence of NICO. But you would need to

have a dentist, and perhaps a medical doctor involved. I understand that a

medical doctor - Dr. Tufft puts patients through a work-up and

involves an oral surgeon in the work. Check the following web-site - It has

a little info on another patient's experience with Dr. Tufft.

http://members.aol.com/wwjohnston/fatigue.htm

Anyway, this is NOT to be take as my giving you medical advice - I am just

sharing what I have read about for myself. I have chosen to not have any

root canals for my teeth. Will probably need to consider bridge work or

alternatives with any other caries. After reading the 2 Meinig

books, I would never have a root canal done. Scary stuff, according to Dr.

Meinig.

Carol

At 06:57 PM 09/20/2001 +0000, you wrote:

>Over the past two years, I've had an ongoing debate with my dentist

>about holistic dentistry, e.g. amalgams, root canals, etc. Someone

>recently posted a link to an article from the Price Pottenger

>Foundation regarding a root canal cover-up, specifically residual

>infections. I had an appointment with him this morning for

>intermittent pain in one of my teeth. I handed him a copy of this

>article just before he x-rayed my tooth. Talk about co-

>incidences!!!. I had a root canal in this tooth two years ago. The x-

>ray revealed RESIDUAL INFECTION IN ONE OF THE CANALS!!. He started

>to write a script for antibiotics. I refused for the moment.

>However, the pain in this tooth could " explode " at any time. He

>referred me to a specialist who will probably want to operate through

>the gums. I'm so not happy.

>

>Unfortunately, I don't have access to an ozone treatment as yet.

>

>What are my options for treating this without antibiotics and/or

>surgery?

>

>I'm also very concerned about having had this infection in my system

>for two years, so close to my brain. (Is this where my memory has

>gone?)

>

>Any and all ideas will be very appreciated.

>

>Sandy

[Guest guest]

Pulsing with a SOTA or Jaguar magnetic pulser will get rid of any residual

infection, pus pockets, and such in a few days, and will provide relief in a

few hours.

Personal experience, and a friend did the same thing.

ciao

Duncan

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Hi Duncan,

Are you saying that all the alternative dentistry stuff about the need to remove

root-canaled teeth (at incredible expense--I checked personally) is rendered

unnecessary with one of these magnetic pulsers? And could you say what the

implications might be, if any, for mercury detox? Thanks.

Peggy

Subject: Re: root canals

Pulsing with a SOTA or Jaguar magnetic pulser will get rid of any residual

infection, pus pockets, and such in a few days, and will provide relief in a

few hours.

Personal experience, and a friend did the same thing.

ciao

Duncan

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Forrest, doing business as Jaguar Enterprises of Santa Ana, also

known as Jaguar Enterprises

Forrest, d/b/a Jaguar Enterprises, based in Mesquite, Texas, and

using business addresses in Black Mountain, North Carolina and Miami,

Flordia, sold, distributed, promoted, and advertised various products,

including various electronic therapy devices known as the Black Box;

Magnetic Pulser; Magnetic Multi-Pulser; Beck-Rife unit; Portable Rife

Frequency Generator; PC-Rife #1; PC-Rife #2; PC-Rife #3; as well as a

combination of herbal ingredients known as " Miracle Herbs, " a purported

cure for cancer and other serious diseases.

The complaint alleges that Jaguar made unsubstantiated claims that their

electronic devices will cure or prevent serious diseases, such as

cancer, AIDS, arthritis, Gulf War Syndrome, and Chronic Fatigue

Syndrome, by passing an electric current or magnetic pulse through the

body, and that Miracle Herbs is effective in treating cancer of all

types, AIDS, bacterial and viral infections. It also alleges that the

respondent falsely represented that Miracle Herbs has been

scientifically proven to be safe and effective and that the electronic

devices have been scientifically proven to kill bacteria and viruses and

other parasites in the body.

The proposed settlement would prohibit the respondent from making the

challenged claims or any other claim about the health benefits,

performance, safety or efficacy of its products or services without

adequate substantiation. The settlement also would prohibit the

respondent from misrepresenting the results of any test, study or

research. Finally, the settlement requires the respondent to offer

refunds to purchasers of the challenged products.

Duncan Crow wrote:

> Pulsing with a SOTA or Jaguar magnetic pulser will get rid of any residual

> infection, pus pockets, and such in a few days, and will provide relief in a

> few hours.

>

> Personal experience, and a friend did the same thing.

>

> ciao

>

> Duncan

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Hi all, I am not sure what the point of the below post is, except to perhaps

say, 'Don't buy Forrests units. " I just want to say that I have both

his units, the blood electrification unit and the magnetic pulser and find both

of them delightfully useful. As Duncan shared, the mag pulser is great for

kicking back infection in the mouth and elsewhere, I would add.

The fda and ftc attacked for having testimonies on his sight from people

who had benefited from these units. They said that was an unfair trade practice

and was misleading. So, he is cooperating with THEIR unfair trade practices

and jumping through their hoops. But he is still in business. He just can't

tell anyone that these units help anyone in anyway, so you have to do your own

research into Bob Beck's protocol, which is what Jaquars units are based on.

Donna

-----Original Message-----

Forrest, doing business as Jaguar Enterprises of Santa Ana, also

known as Jaguar Enterprises

Forrest, d/b/a Jaguar Enterprises, based in Mesquite, Texas, and

using business addresses in Black Mountain, North Carolina and Miami,

Flordia, sold, distributed, promoted, and advertised various products,

including various electronic therapy devices known as the Black Box;

Magnetic Pulser; Magnetic Multi-Pulser; Beck-Rife unit; Portable Rife

Frequency Generator; PC-Rife #1; PC-Rife #2; PC-Rife #3; as well as a

combination of herbal ingredients known as " Miracle Herbs, " a purported

cure for cancer and other serious diseases.

The complaint alleges that Jaguar made unsubstantiated claims that their

electronic devices will cure or prevent serious diseases, such as

cancer, AIDS, arthritis, Gulf War Syndrome, and Chronic Fatigue

Syndrome, by passing an electric current or magnetic pulse through the

body, and that Miracle Herbs is effective in treating cancer of all

types, AIDS, bacterial and viral infections. It also alleges that the

respondent falsely represented that Miracle Herbs has been

scientifically proven to be safe and effective and that the electronic

devices have been scientifically proven to kill bacteria and viruses and

other parasites in the body.

The proposed settlement would prohibit the respondent from making the

challenged claims or any other claim about the health benefits,

performance, safety or efficacy of its products or services without

adequate substantiation. The settlement also would prohibit the

respondent from misrepresenting the results of any test, study or

research. Finally, the settlement requires the respondent to offer

refunds to purchasers of the challenged products.

Duncan Crow wrote:

> Pulsing with a SOTA or Jaguar magnetic pulser will get rid of any residual

> infection, pus pockets, and such in a few days, and will provide relief in

a

> few hours.

>

> Personal experience, and a friend did the same thing.

>

> ciao

>

> Duncan

>

> --

[Guest guest]

does any member of this list have one of these machines that is used, that they

might want to get rid of at a reduced price? i am retired on a limited budget,

have two root canals and a chronic tooth infection, but cant afford the price of

a new unit. also interested in a cs maker, and ozone machine, cheap. please

contact me off list at mommyb@...

thanks,

robert

Re: Re: root canals

Hi all, I am not sure what the point of the below post is, except to perhaps

say, 'Don't buy Forrests units. " I just want to say that I have both

his units, the blood electrification unit and the magnetic pulser and find both

of them delightfully useful. As Duncan shared, the mag pulser is great for

kicking back infection in the mouth and elsewhere, I would add.

The fda and ftc attacked for having testimonies on his sight from

people who had benefited from these units. They said that was an unfair trade

practice and was misleading. So, he is cooperating with THEIR unfair trade

practices and jumping through their hoops. But he is still in business. He

just can't tell anyone that these units help anyone in anyway, so you have to do

your own research into Bob Beck's protocol, which is what Jaquars units are

based on.

Donna

-----Original Message-----

Forrest, doing business as Jaguar Enterprises of Santa Ana, also

known as Jaguar Enterprises

Forrest, d/b/a Jaguar Enterprises, based in Mesquite, Texas, and

using business addresses in Black Mountain, North Carolina and Miami,

Flordia, sold, distributed, promoted, and advertised various products,

including various electronic therapy devices known as the Black Box;

Magnetic Pulser; Magnetic Multi-Pulser; Beck-Rife unit; Portable Rife

Frequency Generator; PC-Rife #1; PC-Rife #2; PC-Rife #3; as well as a

combination of herbal ingredients known as " Miracle Herbs, " a purported

cure for cancer and other serious diseases.

The complaint alleges that Jaguar made unsubstantiated claims that their

electronic devices will cure or prevent serious diseases, such as

cancer, AIDS, arthritis, Gulf War Syndrome, and Chronic Fatigue

Syndrome, by passing an electric current or magnetic pulse through the

body, and that Miracle Herbs is effective in treating cancer of all

types, AIDS, bacterial and viral infections. It also alleges that the

respondent falsely represented that Miracle Herbs has been

scientifically proven to be safe and effective and that the electronic

devices have been scientifically proven to kill bacteria and viruses and

other parasites in the body.

The proposed settlement would prohibit the respondent from making the

challenged claims or any other claim about the health benefits,

performance, safety or efficacy of its products or services without

adequate substantiation. The settlement also would prohibit the

respondent from misrepresenting the results of any test, study or

research. Finally, the settlement requires the respondent to offer

refunds to purchasers of the challenged products.

Duncan Crow wrote:

> Pulsing with a SOTA or Jaguar magnetic pulser will get rid of any

residual

> infection, pus pockets, and such in a few days, and will provide relief

in a

> few hours.

>

> Personal experience, and a friend did the same thing.

>

> ciao

>

> Duncan

>

> --

[Guest guest]

you need to careful of the options you choose.

1] having a rootcanal infection is a chronic and

smoldering infection.

2] its close proximity to other organs like the brain

makes it very dangerous.

3]infact infective endcarditis[ infection of the

heart] and brain abcess can be complications.

4] fatigue , irritabilty, loss of appiette can also

be due to this.

5] one place where medicine does excell is

antibiotics.

and your corse would be at least 4-6 weeks.

6] if you do decide to go the other route make sure

you follow uo on a reglar basis.

7] the olive extact that was mentioned in addition

silver and unizyme can also be options.

if you still hav e some questions please e-mail and if

these above options are of interest please e-mail.

though you should weigh all oyur risks carefully.

dr. jasmine .md --- Vilik Rapheles

wrote:

>

> Message: 12

> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 18:57:47 -0000

> From: moldovansandy@...

> Subject: Root canals

>

> ~~~~~~

>

> Well, the radical answer is...have the tooth pulled.

> But only by

> someone who does it " right " and takes out the

> periodontal

> ligament and makes sure all infected bone is out.

>

> The conservative answer is...take the antibiotics

> and have the

> surgery.

>

> A lot depends on the location of the tooth, and your

> philosophy

> and health in general. If you can afford to lose the

> tooth...that's

> probably the way to go. But I had some teeth out

> that I now might

> have made other choices about, knowing what I know

> now.

>

> Both sides of this debate are so polarized, it's

> very hard to

> find a 'sensible " opinion. Take your time, get all

> the info you

> can.

>

> Young living oils might help you get through too.

> Sharon...where

> are you?

>

> ~^^V^^~

>

>

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Hey Loren,

Just because some 'official' body judges someone guilty of a crime, doesn't

make it so...

********** Begin Evidence in Support ***********

Condemnation of Galileo

The text of the condemnation reads:

" We say, pronounce, sentence and declare that you, Galileo, by reason of

these things which have been detailed in the trial and which you have

confessed already, have rendered yourself according to this Holy Office

vehemently suspect of heresy, namely of having held and believed a doctrine

that is false and contrary to the divine and Holy Scripture: namely that Sun

is the centre of the world and does not move from east to west, and that one

may hold and defend as probable an opinion after it has been declared and

defined contrary to Holy Scripture. Consequently, you have incurred all the

censures and penalties enjoined and promulgated by the sacred Canons and all

particular and general laws against such delinquents. We are willing to

absolve you from them provided that first, with a sincere heart and

unfeigned faith, in our presence you abjure, curse and detest the said

errors and heresies, and every other error and heresy contrary to the

Catholic and Apostolic Church in the manner and form we will prescribe to

you. Furthermore, so that this grievous and pernicious error and

transgression of yours may not go altogether unpunished, and so that you

will be more cautious in future, and an example for others to abstain from

delinquencies of this sort, we order that the book Dialogue of Galileo

Galilei be prohibited by public edict. We condemn you to formal imprisonment

in this Holy Office at our pleasure. As a salutary penance we impose on you

to recite the seven penitential psalms once a week for the next three years.

And we reserve to ourselves the power of moderating, commuting, or taking

off, the whole or part of the said penalties and penances. This we say,

pronounce, sentence, declare, order and reserve by this or any other better

manner or form that we reasonably can or shall think of. So we the

undersigned Cardinals pronounce:

F. Cardinal of Ascoli

B. Cardinal Gessi

G. Cardinal Bentivoglio

F. Cardinal Verospi

Fr. D. Cardinal of Cremona

M. Cardinal Ginetti

Fr. Ant. s Cardinal of. S. Onofrio " .

Re: Re: root canals

Forrest, doing business as Jaguar Enterprises of Santa Ana, also

known as Jaguar Enterprises

Forrest, d/b/a Jaguar Enterprises, based in Mesquite, Texas, and

using business addresses in Black Mountain, North Carolina and Miami,

Flordia, sold, distributed, promoted, and advertised various products,

including various electronic therapy devices known as the Black Box;

Magnetic Pulser; Magnetic Multi-Pulser; Beck-Rife unit; Portable Rife

Frequency Generator; PC-Rife #1; PC-Rife #2; PC-Rife #3; as well as a

combination of herbal ingredients known as " Miracle Herbs, " a purported

cure for cancer and other serious diseases.

The complaint alleges that Jaguar made unsubstantiated claims that their

electronic devices will cure or prevent serious diseases, such as

cancer, AIDS, arthritis, Gulf War Syndrome, and Chronic Fatigue

Syndrome, by passing an electric current or magnetic pulse through the

body, and that Miracle Herbs is effective in treating cancer of all

types, AIDS, bacterial and viral infections. It also alleges that the

respondent falsely represented that Miracle Herbs has been

scientifically proven to be safe and effective and that the electronic

devices have been scientifically proven to kill bacteria and viruses and

other parasites in the body.

The proposed settlement would prohibit the respondent from making the

challenged claims or any other claim about the health benefits,

performance, safety or efficacy of its products or services without

adequate substantiation. The settlement also would prohibit the

respondent from misrepresenting the results of any test, study or

research. Finally, the settlement requires the respondent to offer

refunds to purchasers of the challenged products.

[Guest guest]

<<Are you saying that all the alternative dentistry stuff about the need to

remove root-canaled teeth (at incredible expense--I checked personally) is

rendered unnecessary with one of these magnetic pulsers? And could you say

what the implications might be, if any, for mercury detox?>>

Hi Peggy;

My post was regarding infection, not hardware. With a pulser, I avoided a

root canal three dentists insisted I had coming for three years. The

magnetic pulser killed the infection.

Or oregeno oil, olive leaf extract, monolaurin, grapefruit seed extract may

work.

None of those deal with toxicity issues.

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--- " Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph " wrote:

> I injected an infected tooth with a very strong tea of plain cayenne

> pepper (90,000 HTU's). The tooth was falling out it was so loose.

> It had a nasty smell from the infection. I injected some cayenne

> late in the afternoon and the infection was gone the next morning and

> the tooth was solid in the jaw.

Do you think that Cayenne pepper would help to cure gingivitus? I have

been using standard H202 up til now.

Thanks,

Tom Nesler

=====

Tom Nesler

Live Long...Code Well... and Prosper! V

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[Guest guest]

--- " Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph " wrote:

> I injected an infected tooth with a very strong tea of plain cayenne

> pepper (90,000 HTU's). The tooth was falling out it was so loose.

> It had a nasty smell from the infection. I injected some cayenne

> late in the afternoon and the infection was gone the next morning and

> the tooth was solid in the jaw.

Do you think that Cayenne pepper would help to cure gingivitus? I have

been using standard H202 up til now.

Thanks,

Tom Nesler

=====

Tom Nesler

Live Long...Code Well... and Prosper! V

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[Guest guest]

--- " Dr. Eliezer Ben-ph " wrote:

> I injected an infected tooth with a very strong tea of plain cayenne

> pepper (90,000 HTU's). The tooth was falling out it was so loose.

> It had a nasty smell from the infection. I injected some cayenne

> late in the afternoon and the infection was gone the next morning and

> the tooth was solid in the jaw.

Do you think that Cayenne pepper would help to cure gingivitus? I have

been using standard H202 up til now.

Thanks,

Tom Nesler

=====

Tom Nesler

Live Long...Code Well... and Prosper! V

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[Guest guest]

I think colloidal silver would!

An ounce per day of homemade swished in the mouth and then swallowed does

wonders for oral hygene as well as generally staving off seasonal infections.

Chuck

The customer isn't always right, but they do get an unnatural amount of slack !

On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 11:31:17 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nesler

wrote:

>Do you think that Cayenne pepper would help to cure gingivitus? I have

>been using standard H202 up til now.

[Guest guest]

I think colloidal silver would!

An ounce per day of homemade swished in the mouth and then swallowed does

wonders for oral hygene as well as generally staving off seasonal infections.

Chuck

The customer isn't always right, but they do get an unnatural amount of slack !

On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 11:31:17 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nesler

wrote:

>Do you think that Cayenne pepper would help to cure gingivitus? I have

>been using standard H202 up til now.

[Guest guest]

I think colloidal silver would!

An ounce per day of homemade swished in the mouth and then swallowed does

wonders for oral hygene as well as generally staving off seasonal infections.

Chuck

The customer isn't always right, but they do get an unnatural amount of slack !

On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 11:31:17 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nesler

wrote:

>Do you think that Cayenne pepper would help to cure gingivitus? I have

>been using standard H202 up til now.

[Guest guest]

yes silver will

dr.jasmine md.

--- cking001@... wrote:

> I think colloidal silver would!

> An ounce per day of homemade swished in the mouth

> and then swallowed does

> wonders for oral hygene as well as generally staving

> off seasonal infections.

>

> Chuck

>

> The customer isn't always right, but they do get an

> unnatural amount of slack !

>

> On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 11:31:17 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nesler

>

> wrote:

>

> >Do you think that Cayenne pepper would help to cure

> gingivitus? I have

> >been using standard H202 up til now.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Folks,

I just found Vilik's post from last Friday, asking for some input on

essential oils for root canals. I dug up the following reports from

various Young Living distributors, which are sent only to each

other--not for potential customers. In other words, these people have

nothing to 'sell' here.

You can visit the company's site and read about any of the oils at:

http://www.youngliving.com/default.asp

You can call 1- to place an order. You would have to give my

member #125200 to do so.

I'm sorry if this looks like an advertisement from me, but everytime

this EO subject comes up I get a lot of pems asking for further info, so

I'm just saving time (which I'm scarce on for another few days, at

least).

In May I had an emergency extraction of an infected root canaled tooth

and I've used the products mentioned since then. I have no further

complications, or evidence of any infection.

In case the reference to Birch/wintergreen is confusing, it's because

the quality of Birch on the world market has deteriorated and Young

will not put anything but the highest quality oils under the YL label,

so it is being substituted with wintergreen until a promising Canadian

crop of birch becomes available. The properties are almost identical.

On the run,

Sharon

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to help her with her fractured root she was given some great suggestion

and I just wanted her to know how well the oil of Birch works which is

replaced by (Wintergreen) and Thieves. My husband had an infection in

the bone of the gum and just by using Thieves it would clear it up but

would come back. Then when we applied Birch with Thieves the infection

went away and never came back. What this told us is that the infection

was in the bone and it needed something to drive the Thieves into the

bone to clear up the infection. So work with single oils together with a

blend to make them stronger and work on the problem.

Remember B. for Bone - Birch (Wintergreen), C. Circulation -Cypress, M.

Muscle - Marjoram, P. for inflammation - Peppermint, V. for virus

-Oregano, also you can use l for ligaments and tissue regeneration,

lemongrass and helichrysum.

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I bit down on a bone and cracked my molar, #30. Dentist referred me to a

specialist for a root canal on 7-11-00 after she determined there was

nerve damage. My tooth was extremely sensitive to hot and cold temps. I

used 1-2 drops of helichrysum directly on the tooth and held it in mouth

as long as I could then swallowed it. I did this as needed for pain,

usually 3 - 4 X daily. I also discovered Marjoram has the same numbing

effect as clove, but it does not burn like the clove oil. I applied this

in the same way as the helichrysum. The oils helped reduce pain enough

to eat. It took about 3 - 4 weeks to repair the injured/inflamed nerve.

Today (12-30-00) I still have a cracked tooth, but no pain, and I'm not

sensitive to hot and cold foods. Once in a while I will injure the tooth

again by biting down on something hard, but I immediately use some oil

and that's the end of it.

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Well, here is my testimonial on 'root canal.' It was a wonderful day,

and a beautiful gracious evening. I prepared for bed with some

meditation and a candle. Off to a nourishing and restful sleep---I

thought. Around 3am, my back lower molar send off an alarm that would

make the fire department siren sound like a kittens purring. I leaped

out of bed in search of my oil bag. I began with clove directly on the

gum and on the outside of my cheek. I then applied helichrysum,

marjoram, pan-away, to the outside of my jaw, and all of the residue on

the back of my neck. The pain only slightly subsided. I knew that

someone in the family would have some ibuprofen hidden in the house, and

like a navy seal, I scourged the house for it -- to no avail-luckily. I

then realized that I might be treating the wrong symptom. I removed my

trusty pendelum from its leather case, and determined that I was dealing

with an infection. I, upon remembering a talk by Young, I reached

for mountain savory, oregano, and lemongrass. I hastened a mixture, and

applied it to the inside of my mouth on the gum and tooth, and on the

outside of my jaw and on the back of my neck. The pain subsided almost

immediately. Next day, found me at the dentist office to verify the

cause of such horrific experience. Finding no cracked tooth, the dentist

announced that I would need a root canal and made the apt. He wrote down

on my chart ' " patient used 'homeopathic' to subdue pain.' As the apt.

was not for a few days, and the pain and swelling subsided, I canceled

the root canal until I would have evidence of its necessity. I continued

to apply the oils, changing from clove to mountain savory, to oregano,

to lemongrass, and helichrysum-sporatically, or when I felt a little

swelling of the gum. Well, I am still waiting. Four months now. Natures

pantry prevails again!

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No the tooth is still there it has a cap over it. The infection acted as

its own root canal, the clove is a very effective anaethetic and

antiboitic. So now when I get the flavor of tooth root rot at that

location I put more clove on it - finances prevent me from getting

dental work done. If you are going to manage your own health in a

serious way YL oils are very potent and effective, but you need the

knowledge. The book " Peoples Desk Reference for Essential Oils " ,

Published by Essencial Science Publishing. Provides that knowleldge. The

title has been changed, contact YL for the New Title and contacting the

publisher. When you get the book spend some time (hours) over a period

of days to study and take notes. I prefer the single oils so that is how

I approached the subject.

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I have something else I would like to discuss which has been helping me

a lot. As you remember I have 5 root canals and I know they are at the

bottom of me not feeling and doing as well as I know I can.

Last week I went on a trip and forgot my Dentarome + toothpaste but I

did remember my Fresh Essence + mouthwash, so I used that to brush with.

After two days of doing this I noticed a big change in the way I felt.

I mean a change that I have not been able to get with anything else. My

mouth and my whole body felt better. My teeth stopped bleeding even

when I used a water pick at full force. I want to brush my teeth all

the time because it feels so good.

This is what I think has happened. Root canals (75% of them) will leak

a bacteria that is stronger than botulism. It can leak them internally

through your jaw into your system and externally around your mouth and

consequently into your digestive track. This second one is what I feel

has been bothering me for years. The mouth wash is so strong and

concentrated that it is killing the bacteria in my mouth and possibly

even traveling into the tooth areas to kill deeper bacteria.

I just know I feel much better and my body tells me that this is the

right thing to do. If there is anyone else that has similar conditions

or suspects tooth problems like this and would try this I would like to

know the results.

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Vilik Rapheles wrote:>

>

> Well, the radical answer is...have the tooth pulled. But only by

> someone who does it " right " and takes out the periodontal

> ligament and makes sure all infected bone is out.

>

> The conservative answer is...take the antibiotics and have the

> surgery.

>

> A lot depends on the location of the tooth, and your philosophy

> and health in general. If you can afford to lose the tooth...that's

> probably the way to go. But I had some teeth out that I now might

> have made other choices about, knowing what I know now.

>

> Both sides of this debate are so polarized, it's very hard to

> find a 'sensible " opinion. Take your time, get all the info you

> can.>

> Young living oils might help you get through too. Sharon...where

> are you?