RE: When there's a will, there's a way!!

[Guest guest]

Welcome back mark!!! ALDA is great in that it brings late deafs together, what

chapter did you attend the meeting for? I'm the pres of alda suncoast here in

FL, we are semi hosting this years conference in orlando, I'll send you info.

There could be anywhere from 200 to 500 alda attendees there, its awesome!

Mark Sarmac wrote:

> Crew,

>

> I haven't posted much since 9-11 and have just been totally lurking, by

> reading stuff in digest. But I just want to comment on this email. Being

> deaf is bad, yes, I agree, but it's all not THAT bad. There are things more

> worse than being deaf. And as for communication: there's an old proverb

> someone told me a long time ago, " when there's a will, there's a way. " If

> two people are willing to HAVE a conversation with each other, no matter if

> that person is deaf, they will find a way to have an understanding between

> each other!

>

> Today I went to my first ALDA meeting and met some very remarkable people!!

> Many did not know or had no knowledge of Sign, but that didn't stop them

> from communicating what they had in their minds! Again, " when there's a

> will, there's a way " !! I'm a sci-fi nerd, so allow me to quote Jedi Master

> Yoda, " there's do or do not, but no try " If you really WANT to have a

> conversation or dialogue with anyone, you'll both find a way to have a

> conversation or dialogue!

>

> Lastly, you have that choice in family situations by just sitting at the

> corner by yourself and not saying anything. Again... " if there's a will,

> there's a way! " If you really WANT to participate in your family discussion,

> you WILL find a way!!

>

> Okay, stick a fork in me cuz I'm done =P Back to lurking....

>

> Thank you,

> Mark

> =============================================

> To: <NF2_Crew >

> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 3:42 PM

> Subject: Re: Carol

>

> > No Carol, I think you missed OUR point. Being totally deaf is a LOT

> > worse than being partially deaf, and I hope for your sake that you

> > will never find this out personally. My family use to get so MAD at

> > me because I would not tell people I had known all my life that I was

> > deaf now, and I told them I HATED the way these people responded when

> > told this. I believe YOU were the one that said the deaf person's

> > response when they could not understand was " I an SORRY, I am deaf " .

> > And when you tell this to people that have known you all your life

> > and the pitiful looks on their faces and their respone with " I am so

> > sorry " REALLY gets to you. I told my family that I felt sorry for

> > myself ENOUGH, that I did not need others to feel sorry for me too.

> >

> > Until you sit in a room full of your own family and, unless somebody

> > stops and signs to you to tell you what is going on, you are

> > completely in the dark...you cannot know what it is like to be

> > totally deaf. Instead of pointing out the downfalls of only having

> > hearing in one ear, you should be THANKING GOD that you do have that

> > hearing.

> >

> > I am sorry, I am deaf, and I KNOW it sucks.

> >

> > Donna

>

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[Guest guest]

Welcome back mark!!! ALDA is great in that it brings late deafs together, what

chapter did you attend the meeting for? I'm the pres of alda suncoast here in

FL, we are semi hosting this years conference in orlando, I'll send you info.

There could be anywhere from 200 to 500 alda attendees there, its awesome!

Mark Sarmac wrote:

> Crew,

>

> I haven't posted much since 9-11 and have just been totally lurking, by

> reading stuff in digest. But I just want to comment on this email. Being

> deaf is bad, yes, I agree, but it's all not THAT bad. There are things more

> worse than being deaf. And as for communication: there's an old proverb

> someone told me a long time ago, " when there's a will, there's a way. " If

> two people are willing to HAVE a conversation with each other, no matter if

> that person is deaf, they will find a way to have an understanding between

> each other!

>

> Today I went to my first ALDA meeting and met some very remarkable people!!

> Many did not know or had no knowledge of Sign, but that didn't stop them

> from communicating what they had in their minds! Again, " when there's a

> will, there's a way " !! I'm a sci-fi nerd, so allow me to quote Jedi Master

> Yoda, " there's do or do not, but no try " If you really WANT to have a

> conversation or dialogue with anyone, you'll both find a way to have a

> conversation or dialogue!

>

> Lastly, you have that choice in family situations by just sitting at the

> corner by yourself and not saying anything. Again... " if there's a will,

> there's a way! " If you really WANT to participate in your family discussion,

> you WILL find a way!!

>

> Okay, stick a fork in me cuz I'm done =P Back to lurking....

>

> Thank you,

> Mark

> =============================================

> To: <NF2_Crew >

> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 3:42 PM

> Subject: Re: Carol

>

> > No Carol, I think you missed OUR point. Being totally deaf is a LOT

> > worse than being partially deaf, and I hope for your sake that you

> > will never find this out personally. My family use to get so MAD at

> > me because I would not tell people I had known all my life that I was

> > deaf now, and I told them I HATED the way these people responded when

> > told this. I believe YOU were the one that said the deaf person's

> > response when they could not understand was " I an SORRY, I am deaf " .

> > And when you tell this to people that have known you all your life

> > and the pitiful looks on their faces and their respone with " I am so

> > sorry " REALLY gets to you. I told my family that I felt sorry for

> > myself ENOUGH, that I did not need others to feel sorry for me too.

> >

> > Until you sit in a room full of your own family and, unless somebody

> > stops and signs to you to tell you what is going on, you are

> > completely in the dark...you cannot know what it is like to be

> > totally deaf. Instead of pointing out the downfalls of only having

> > hearing in one ear, you should be THANKING GOD that you do have that

> > hearing.

> >

> > I am sorry, I am deaf, and I KNOW it sucks.

> >

> > Donna

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

VERY WELL STATED MARK..... WHEN I FIRST BECAME DEAF AND BEFORE MY ABI WAS

WORKING I CHOSE TO SIT ON THE SIDELINES AND ME MISERABLE... BUT BEING A

PEOPLE PERSON IT DIDN'T TAKE TO MANY MONTHS TO GET PAST THAT... LIKE YOU

STATED WHERE THERE'S A WILL THERE'S A WAY

I THINK THE DEAF PERSON HAS TO GIVE THE MOST OR WANT TO BE AS CLOSE TO

NORMAL AS POSSIBLE THEN COMMUNICATION HAPPENS

CATHERINE

> Re: Carol

>

>

> > No Carol, I think you missed OUR point. Being totally deaf is a LOT

> > worse than being partially deaf, and I hope for your sake that you

> > will never find this out personally. My family use to get so MAD at

> > me because I would not tell people I had known all my life that I was

> > deaf now, and I told them I HATED the way these people responded when

> > told this. I believe YOU were the one that said the deaf person's

> > response when they could not understand was " I an SORRY, I am deaf " .

> > And when you tell this to people that have known you all your life

> > and the pitiful looks on their faces and their respone with " I am so

> > sorry " REALLY gets to you. I told my family that I felt sorry for

> > myself ENOUGH, that I did not need others to feel sorry for me too.

> >

> > Until you sit in a room full of your own family and, unless somebody

> > stops and signs to you to tell you what is going on, you are

> > completely in the dark...you cannot know what it is like to be

> > totally deaf. Instead of pointing out the downfalls of only having

> > hearing in one ear, you should be THANKING GOD that you do have that

> > hearing.

> >

> > I am sorry, I am deaf, and I KNOW it sucks.

> >

> > Donna

>

>

>

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>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

VERY WELL STATED MARK..... WHEN I FIRST BECAME DEAF AND BEFORE MY ABI WAS

WORKING I CHOSE TO SIT ON THE SIDELINES AND ME MISERABLE... BUT BEING A

PEOPLE PERSON IT DIDN'T TAKE TO MANY MONTHS TO GET PAST THAT... LIKE YOU

STATED WHERE THERE'S A WILL THERE'S A WAY

I THINK THE DEAF PERSON HAS TO GIVE THE MOST OR WANT TO BE AS CLOSE TO

NORMAL AS POSSIBLE THEN COMMUNICATION HAPPENS

CATHERINE

> Re: Carol

>

>

> > No Carol, I think you missed OUR point. Being totally deaf is a LOT

> > worse than being partially deaf, and I hope for your sake that you

> > will never find this out personally. My family use to get so MAD at

> > me because I would not tell people I had known all my life that I was

> > deaf now, and I told them I HATED the way these people responded when

> > told this. I believe YOU were the one that said the deaf person's

> > response when they could not understand was " I an SORRY, I am deaf " .

> > And when you tell this to people that have known you all your life

> > and the pitiful looks on their faces and their respone with " I am so

> > sorry " REALLY gets to you. I told my family that I felt sorry for

> > myself ENOUGH, that I did not need others to feel sorry for me too.

> >

> > Until you sit in a room full of your own family and, unless somebody

> > stops and signs to you to tell you what is going on, you are

> > completely in the dark...you cannot know what it is like to be

> > totally deaf. Instead of pointing out the downfalls of only having

> > hearing in one ear, you should be THANKING GOD that you do have that

> > hearing.

> >

> > I am sorry, I am deaf, and I KNOW it sucks.

> >

> > Donna

>

>

>

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't think anyone here that I know is just sitting on the sidelines and

being miserable (me, Marcus, Donnahut, , Marie, etc...) but

we each feel frustrations sometimes when dealing with people (and we need to

vent!) If we sat on the sidelines, we wouldn't have to deal with people and

that would be worse! I must say, , I've seen a HUGE difference in

your between the first time I met you in Vegas and the last time. You've

come out of yourself. Does the ABI do that for you?

Can't wait to see you (and others) in Vegas!!

na

Re: Carol

>

>

> > No Carol, I think you missed OUR point. Being totally deaf is a LOT

> > worse than being partially deaf, and I hope for your sake that you

> > will never find this out personally. My family use to get so MAD at

> > me because I would not tell people I had known all my life that I was

> > deaf now, and I told them I HATED the way these people responded when

> > told this. I believe YOU were the one that said the deaf person's

> > response when they could not understand was " I an SORRY, I am deaf " .

> > And when you tell this to people that have known you all your life

> > and the pitiful looks on their faces and their respone with " I am so

> > sorry " REALLY gets to you. I told my family that I felt sorry for

> > myself ENOUGH, that I did not need others to feel sorry for me too.

> >

> > Until you sit in a room full of your own family and, unless somebody

> > stops and signs to you to tell you what is going on, you are

> > completely in the dark...you cannot know what it is like to be

> > totally deaf. Instead of pointing out the downfalls of only having

> > hearing in one ear, you should be THANKING GOD that you do have that

> > hearing.

> >

> > I am sorry, I am deaf, and I KNOW it sucks.

> >

> > Donna

>

>

>

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> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at

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>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I don't think anyone here that I know is just sitting on the sidelines and

being miserable (me, Marcus, Donnahut, , Marie, etc...) but

we each feel frustrations sometimes when dealing with people (and we need to

vent!) If we sat on the sidelines, we wouldn't have to deal with people and

that would be worse! I must say, , I've seen a HUGE difference in

your between the first time I met you in Vegas and the last time. You've

come out of yourself. Does the ABI do that for you?

Can't wait to see you (and others) in Vegas!!

na

Re: Carol

>

>

> > No Carol, I think you missed OUR point. Being totally deaf is a LOT

> > worse than being partially deaf, and I hope for your sake that you

> > will never find this out personally. My family use to get so MAD at

> > me because I would not tell people I had known all my life that I was

> > deaf now, and I told them I HATED the way these people responded when

> > told this. I believe YOU were the one that said the deaf person's

> > response when they could not understand was " I an SORRY, I am deaf " .

> > And when you tell this to people that have known you all your life

> > and the pitiful looks on their faces and their respone with " I am so

> > sorry " REALLY gets to you. I told my family that I felt sorry for

> > myself ENOUGH, that I did not need others to feel sorry for me too.

> >

> > Until you sit in a room full of your own family and, unless somebody

> > stops and signs to you to tell you what is going on, you are

> > completely in the dark...you cannot know what it is like to be

> > totally deaf. Instead of pointing out the downfalls of only having

> > hearing in one ear, you should be THANKING GOD that you do have that

> > hearing.

> >

> > I am sorry, I am deaf, and I KNOW it sucks.

> >

> > Donna

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

And don't forget those people you listed na are all flying to Australia.

SITTING ON THE SIDELINES ? not these deafies.

PS my mrs would find the 'sitting on the sidelines' very amusing. My days

are huge and hectic .

M

Subject: RE: " When there's a will, there's a way!! "

> I don't think anyone here that I know is just sitting on the sidelines and

> being miserable (me, Marcus, Donnahut, , Marie, etc...) but

> we each feel frustrations sometimes when dealing with people (and we need

to

> vent!) If we sat on the sidelines, we wouldn't have to deal with people

and

> that would be worse! I must say, , I've seen a HUGE difference

in

> your between the first time I met you in Vegas and the last time. You've

> come out of yourself. Does the ABI do that for you?

>

> Can't wait to see you (and others) in Vegas!!

>

> na

>

[Guest guest]

And don't forget those people you listed na are all flying to Australia.

SITTING ON THE SIDELINES ? not these deafies.

PS my mrs would find the 'sitting on the sidelines' very amusing. My days

are huge and hectic .

M

Subject: RE: " When there's a will, there's a way!! "

> I don't think anyone here that I know is just sitting on the sidelines and

> being miserable (me, Marcus, Donnahut, , Marie, etc...) but

> we each feel frustrations sometimes when dealing with people (and we need

to

> vent!) If we sat on the sidelines, we wouldn't have to deal with people

and

> that would be worse! I must say, , I've seen a HUGE difference

in

> your between the first time I met you in Vegas and the last time. You've

> come out of yourself. Does the ABI do that for you?

>

> Can't wait to see you (and others) in Vegas!!

>

> na

>

[Guest guest]

I think we all get through life very well, we've learned what works best

when dealing in the hearing world... but we can't help having negative

feelings... like " I really hate it when I'm at the grocery store and the

cashier mumbles something and I have to say 'I'm sorry, I didn't catch that,

I'm deaf' and everyone in the vicinity stops what they are doing and turns

to look at me. " I hate it too, Marcus.

na

RE: " When there's a will, there's a way!! "

> I don't think anyone here that I know is just sitting on the sidelines and

> being miserable (me, Marcus, Donnahut, , Marie, etc...) but

> we each feel frustrations sometimes when dealing with people (and we need

to

> vent!) If we sat on the sidelines, we wouldn't have to deal with people

and

> that would be worse! I must say, , I've seen a HUGE difference

in

> your between the first time I met you in Vegas and the last time. You've

> come out of yourself. Does the ABI do that for you?

>

> Can't wait to see you (and others) in Vegas!!

>

> na

>

[Guest guest]

Ive just got to say that when I started the baffled M post I was not

intending this to end up a competition between hearing and NON hearing

people . I wanted to talk about why we do tell some people and not tell

others. I was curious as to why we feel different with different people.

Marcus : extreme hard of hearing for 10 years totally deaf for 8 and happy

and not sitting on any side lines or whining.

[Guest guest]

Nah, she has a man in her life! LOL Marie

Re: Carol

>>

>>

>> > No Carol, I think you missed OUR point. Being totally deaf is a LOT

>> > worse than being partially deaf, and I hope for your sake that you

>> > will never find this out personally. My family use to get so MAD at

>> > me because I would not tell people I had known all my life that I was

>> > deaf now, and I told them I HATED the way these people responded when

>> > told this. I believe YOU were the one that said the deaf person's

>> > response when they could not understand was " I an SORRY, I am deaf " .

>> > And when you tell this to people that have known you all your life

>> > and the pitiful looks on their faces and their respone with " I am so

>> > sorry " REALLY gets to you. I told my family that I felt sorry for

>> > myself ENOUGH, that I did not need others to feel sorry for me too.

>> >

>> > Until you sit in a room full of your own family and, unless somebody

>> > stops and signs to you to tell you what is going on, you are

>> > completely in the dark...you cannot know what it is like to be

>> > totally deaf. Instead of pointing out the downfalls of only having

>> > hearing in one ear, you should be THANKING GOD that you do have that

>> > hearing.

>> >

>> > I am sorry, I am deaf, and I KNOW it sucks.

>> >

>> > Donna

>>

>>

>>

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[Guest guest]

Nah, she has a man in her life! LOL Marie

Re: Carol

>>

>>

>> > No Carol, I think you missed OUR point. Being totally deaf is a LOT

>> > worse than being partially deaf, and I hope for your sake that you

>> > will never find this out personally. My family use to get so MAD at

>> > me because I would not tell people I had known all my life that I was

>> > deaf now, and I told them I HATED the way these people responded when

>> > told this. I believe YOU were the one that said the deaf person's

>> > response when they could not understand was " I an SORRY, I am deaf " .

>> > And when you tell this to people that have known you all your life

>> > and the pitiful looks on their faces and their respone with " I am so

>> > sorry " REALLY gets to you. I told my family that I felt sorry for

>> > myself ENOUGH, that I did not need others to feel sorry for me too.

>> >

>> > Until you sit in a room full of your own family and, unless somebody

>> > stops and signs to you to tell you what is going on, you are

>> > completely in the dark...you cannot know what it is like to be

>> > totally deaf. Instead of pointing out the downfalls of only having

>> > hearing in one ear, you should be THANKING GOD that you do have that

>> > hearing.

>> >

>> > I am sorry, I am deaf, and I KNOW it sucks.

>> >

>> > Donna

>>

>>

>>

>> _________________________________________________________________

>> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at

>> http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp> .

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>>

[Guest guest]

YES JOHNNA, I THINK THAT'S IT THE ABI MAKES SUCH A DIFFERENCE AND NOW I CAN

HEAR SO MUCH MORE SO I AM MORE CONFIDENT MIXING WITH THE CROWD. PLUS I AM

FEELING MUCH BETTER PHYSICALLY THE CANCER KNOCKED ME DOWN FOR OVER A YEAR

THEN THE BROKEN LEG THERE WENT ANOTHER YEAR.

IT ALSO HELPS HAVING A SPECIAL MAN IN MY LIFE AGAIN

LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN VEGAS

CATHERINE

> Re: Carol

> >

> >

> > > No Carol, I think you missed OUR point. Being totally deaf is a LOT

> > > worse than being partially deaf, and I hope for your sake that you

> > > will never find this out personally. My family use to get so MAD at

> > > me because I would not tell people I had known all my life that I was

> > > deaf now, and I told them I HATED the way these people responded when

> > > told this. I believe YOU were the one that said the deaf person's

> > > response when they could not understand was " I an SORRY, I am deaf " .

> > > And when you tell this to people that have known you all your life

> > > and the pitiful looks on their faces and their respone with " I am so

> > > sorry " REALLY gets to you. I told my family that I felt sorry for

> > > myself ENOUGH, that I did not need others to feel sorry for me too.

> > >

> > > Until you sit in a room full of your own family and, unless somebody

> > > stops and signs to you to tell you what is going on, you are

> > > completely in the dark...you cannot know what it is like to be

> > > totally deaf. Instead of pointing out the downfalls of only having

> > > hearing in one ear, you should be THANKING GOD that you do have that

> > > hearing.

> > >

> > > I am sorry, I am deaf, and I KNOW it sucks.

> > >

> > > Donna

> >

> >

> >

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> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Oh Oh, 's getting frisky again ! Way to go !

Mikey

Re: Carol

> > >

> > >

> > > > No Carol, I think you missed OUR point. Being totally deaf is a

LOT

> > > > worse than being partially deaf, and I hope for your sake that you

> > > > will never find this out personally. My family use to get so MAD

at

> > > > me because I would not tell people I had known all my life that I

was

> > > > deaf now, and I told them I HATED the way these people responded

when

> > > > told this. I believe YOU were the one that said the deaf person's

> > > > response when they could not understand was " I an SORRY, I am

deaf " .

> > > > And when you tell this to people that have known you all your life

> > > > and the pitiful looks on their faces and their respone with " I am

so

> > > > sorry " REALLY gets to you. I told my family that I felt sorry for

> > > > myself ENOUGH, that I did not need others to feel sorry for me too.

> > > >

> > > > Until you sit in a room full of your own family and, unless

somebody

> > > > stops and signs to you to tell you what is going on, you are

> > > > completely in the dark...you cannot know what it is like to be

> > > > totally deaf. Instead of pointing out the downfalls of only having

> > > > hearing in one ear, you should be THANKING GOD that you do have

that

> > > > hearing.

> > > >

> > > > I am sorry, I am deaf, and I KNOW it sucks.

> > > >

> > > > Donna

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _________________________________________________________________

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> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

THANKS MIKE... HOW ARE YOU AND ALL OF YOUR FAMILY?

MARIE AND I SURE MISS ALL OF YOU UP HERE N THE NORTH. LOOK FORWARD TO

SEEING YOU IN VEGAS

CATHERINE

> Re: " When there's a will, there's a way!! "

>

>

> Oh Oh, 's getting frisky again ! Way to go !

> Mikey

> Re: Carol

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > No Carol, I think you missed OUR point. Being totally deaf is a

> LOT

> > > > > worse than being partially deaf, and I hope for your

> sake that you

> > > > > will never find this out personally. My family use to get so MAD

> at

> > > > > me because I would not tell people I had known all my life that I

> was

> > > > > deaf now, and I told them I HATED the way these people responded

> when

> > > > > told this. I believe YOU were the one that said the

> deaf person's

> > > > > response when they could not understand was " I an SORRY, I am

> deaf " .

> > > > > And when you tell this to people that have known you all

> your life

> > > > > and the pitiful looks on their faces and their respone with " I am

> so

> > > > > sorry " REALLY gets to you. I told my family that I felt

> sorry for

> > > > > myself ENOUGH, that I did not need others to feel sorry

> for me too.

> > > > >

> > > > > Until you sit in a room full of your own family and, unless

> somebody

> > > > > stops and signs to you to tell you what is going on, you are

> > > > > completely in the dark...you cannot know what it is like to be

> > > > > totally deaf. Instead of pointing out the downfalls of

> only having

> > > > > hearing in one ear, you should be THANKING GOD that you do have

> that

> > > > > hearing.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am sorry, I am deaf, and I KNOW it sucks.

> > > > >

> > > > > Donna

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > _________________________________________________________________

> > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at

> > > > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp> .

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Mark,

You are one tough dude. I applaud your postive thinking. This must have

been what brought you through your recent hospital/surgery stint. Keep it

up. Vicki