Guest guest Posted March 13, 2002 Report Share Posted March 13, 2002 Sonja wrote: >My children were reading in a book about how the early American >pioneers would chew wheat kernels as they threshed. This would turn >into a " gum " in their mouths as they chewed and worked. They >suggested to me that this would be a healthy kind of bubble gum, an >alternative. My mind of course went straight to the phytates. But >then I thought, they probably would tire of the whole idea pretty >quickly.... How much wheat phytates do you think they'll consume from casual use as chew? How likely will this be to impact mineral absorption? And which is likely to be more unhealthful- the phytate-laden grain or bubble gum? >but if they don't......do you think saliva would work as a soaking medium??? Probably. The saliva should work better than water...but you'd have a lot less contact time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2002 Report Share Posted March 13, 2002 > They suggested to me that this would be a healthy kind of > bubble gum, an alternative. My mind of course went straight to > the phytates. But then I thought, they probably would tire of > the whole idea pretty quickly....but if they don't......do you > think saliva would work as a soaking medium??? Phytates in and of themselves aren't that big of a threat to our health. The problem that they pose is mainly just that we can't absorb the minerals that are bound to them. So it's unlikely that chewing the wheat kernels would pose any threat whatsoever to your children. I also suspect that they will, in fact, tire of it rather quickly. Raw wheat kernels don't have what I consider to be a very compelling flavor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2002 Report Share Posted March 13, 2002 ----- Original Message ----- From: " Kroyer " <skroyer@...> < > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:17 AM Subject: RE: pioneers chewed wheat kernels > > They suggested to me that this would be a healthy kind of > > bubble gum, an alternative. My mind of course went straight to > > the phytates. But then I thought, they probably would tire of > > the whole idea pretty quickly....but if they don't......do you > > think saliva would work as a soaking medium??? > > Phytates in and of themselves aren't that big of a threat to our health. > The problem that they pose is mainly just that we can't absorb the minerals > that are bound to them. So it's unlikely that chewing the wheat kernels > would pose any threat whatsoever to your children. I also suspect that they > will, in fact, tire of it rather quickly. Raw wheat kernels don't have what > I consider to be a very compelling flavor. I also can't help but think that they might be a bit disappointed when they try to blow bubbles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " Kroyer " <skroyer@j...> > < @y...> > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:17 AM > Subject: RE: pioneers chewed wheat kernels > > > > > They suggested to me that this would be a healthy kind of > > > bubble gum, an alternative. My mind of course went straight to > > > the phytates. But then I thought, they probably would tire of > > > the whole idea pretty quickly....but if they don't......do you > > > think saliva would work as a soaking medium??? > > > > Phytates in and of themselves aren't that big of a threat to our health. > > The problem that they pose is mainly just that we can't absorb the > minerals > > that are bound to them. So it's unlikely that chewing the wheat kernels > > would pose any threat whatsoever to your children. I also suspect that > they > > will, in fact, tire of it rather quickly. Raw wheat kernels don't have > what > > I consider to be a very compelling flavor. > > I also can't help but think that they might be a bit disappointed when they > try to blow bubbles. >>>>>>>>>>>> hello, Dennis Kemnitz here again: I would much rather my children, and everyboby else for that matter, chew wheat kernels instead of bubble gum containing artificial flavors, dyes,and sweeteners. Bubble gum probably even causes TMJ problems. How much phytate can someone get from a few grams of wheat? And besides that bubble gum costs a nickel now and how much wheat can you get for a nickel when it costs three dollars for 60 pounds? The entire family could probably chew wheat for a year and have some left over for the next year and spend almost nothing. And I don't think the natural wheat berry would cause dental caries, TMJ problems or plaque. I think people ate wheat berries thousands of years ago cause they are nutritous, and convenient and very tasty (organic berries). And it is possible to blow bubbles with the chewed wheat (gluten). Well anyway we're still here in KS. Bye, Dennis Kemnitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 Are you serious? Kids can really blow bubbles with this? Now I've gotta try it. Any wheat berry will do? I have spelt, I'm going now to give some to my kids....I'll let you know what they say. ----- Original Message ----- From: dkemnitz2000 Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:14 PM Subject: Re: pioneers chewed wheat kernels > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " Kroyer " <skroyer@j...> > < @y...> > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:17 AM > Subject: RE: pioneers chewed wheat kernels > > > > > They suggested to me that this would be a healthy kind of > > > bubble gum, an alternative. My mind of course went straight to > > > the phytates. But then I thought, they probably would tire of > > > the whole idea pretty quickly....but if they don't......do you > > > think saliva would work as a soaking medium??? > > > > Phytates in and of themselves aren't that big of a threat to our health. > > The problem that they pose is mainly just that we can't absorb the > minerals > > that are bound to them. So it's unlikely that chewing the wheat kernels > > would pose any threat whatsoever to your children. I also suspect that > they > > will, in fact, tire of it rather quickly. Raw wheat kernels don't have > what > > I consider to be a very compelling flavor. > > I also can't help but think that they might be a bit disappointed when they > try to blow bubbles. >>>>>>>>>>>> hello, Dennis Kemnitz here again: I would much rather my children, and everyboby else for that matter, chew wheat kernels instead of bubble gum containing artificial flavors, dyes,and sweeteners. Bubble gum probably even causes TMJ problems. How much phytate can someone get from a few grams of wheat? And besides that bubble gum costs a nickel now and how much wheat can you get for a nickel when it costs three dollars for 60 pounds? The entire family could probably chew wheat for a year and have some left over for the next year and spend almost nothing. And I don't think the natural wheat berry would cause dental caries, TMJ problems or plaque. I think people ate wheat berries thousands of years ago cause they are nutritous, and convenient and very tasty (organic berries). And it is possible to blow bubbles with the chewed wheat (gluten). Well anyway we're still here in KS. Bye, Dennis Kemnitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 Okay, obviously I've got the wrong stuff. It chewed up and tasted like flour. Nothing remained to chew on. I'm chewing " hulled spelt " . What SHOULD I be using? ----- Original Message ----- From: Conway Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:29 PM Subject: Re: Re: pioneers chewed wheat kernels Are you serious? Kids can really blow bubbles with this? Now I've gotta try it. Any wheat berry will do? I have spelt, I'm going now to give some to my kids....I'll let you know what they say. ----- Original Message ----- From: dkemnitz2000 Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:14 PM Subject: Re: pioneers chewed wheat kernels > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " Kroyer " <skroyer@j...> > < @y...> > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:17 AM > Subject: RE: pioneers chewed wheat kernels > > > > > They suggested to me that this would be a healthy kind of > > > bubble gum, an alternative. My mind of course went straight to > > > the phytates. But then I thought, they probably would tire of > > > the whole idea pretty quickly....but if they don't......do you > > > think saliva would work as a soaking medium??? > > > > Phytates in and of themselves aren't that big of a threat to our health. > > The problem that they pose is mainly just that we can't absorb the > minerals > > that are bound to them. So it's unlikely that chewing the wheat kernels > > would pose any threat whatsoever to your children. I also suspect that > they > > will, in fact, tire of it rather quickly. Raw wheat kernels don't have > what > > I consider to be a very compelling flavor. > > I also can't help but think that they might be a bit disappointed when they > try to blow bubbles. >>>>>>>>>>>> hello, Dennis Kemnitz here again: I would much rather my children, and everyboby else for that matter, chew wheat kernels instead of bubble gum containing artificial flavors, dyes,and sweeteners. Bubble gum probably even causes TMJ problems. How much phytate can someone get from a few grams of wheat? And besides that bubble gum costs a nickel now and how much wheat can you get for a nickel when it costs three dollars for 60 pounds? The entire family could probably chew wheat for a year and have some left over for the next year and spend almost nothing. And I don't think the natural wheat berry would cause dental caries, TMJ problems or plaque. I think people ate wheat berries thousands of years ago cause they are nutritous, and convenient and very tasty (organic berries). And it is possible to blow bubbles with the chewed wheat (gluten). Well anyway we're still here in KS. Bye, Dennis Kemnitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 I worked on the wheat harvest out west for 5 years, we always chewed wheat and after about 1 1/2 hours you could blow a bubble. It takes about a palm full relative to the palm that s connected to the person chewing it. Also warm whole kernel corn(non-gmo and organic of course) beats Frito's any day, roasted soy (whole) bean beats peanuts any day! not to much though maybe 20 at a time , Sally will probably chew me out over that one. Conway wrote: > Are you serious? Kids can really blow bubbles with this? Now I've gotta try it. Any wheat berry will do? I have spelt, I'm going now to give some to my kids....I'll let you know what they say. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: dkemnitz2000 > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:14 PM > Subject: Re: pioneers chewed wheat kernels > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: " Kroyer " <skroyer@j...> > > < @y...> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:17 AM > > Subject: RE: pioneers chewed wheat kernels > > > > > > > > They suggested to me that this would be a healthy kind of > > > > bubble gum, an alternative. My mind of course went straight to > > > > the phytates. But then I thought, they probably would tire of > > > > the whole idea pretty quickly....but if they don't......do you > > > > think saliva would work as a soaking medium??? > > > > > > Phytates in and of themselves aren't that big of a threat to our > health. > > > The problem that they pose is mainly just that we can't absorb the > > minerals > > > that are bound to them. So it's unlikely that chewing the wheat > kernels > > > would pose any threat whatsoever to your children. I also suspect > that > > they > > > will, in fact, tire of it rather quickly. Raw wheat kernels don't > have > > what > > > I consider to be a very compelling flavor. > > > > I also can't help but think that they might be a bit disappointed > when they > > try to blow bubbles. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> hello, Dennis Kemnitz here again: I would much rather > my children, and everyboby else for that matter, chew wheat kernels > instead of bubble gum containing artificial flavors, dyes,and > sweeteners. Bubble gum probably even causes TMJ problems. How much > phytate can someone get from a few grams of wheat? And besides that > bubble gum costs a nickel now and how much wheat can you get for a > nickel when it costs three dollars for 60 pounds? The entire family > could probably chew wheat for a year and have some left over for the > next year and spend almost nothing. And I don't think the natural > wheat berry would cause dental caries, TMJ problems or plaque. I > think people ate wheat berries thousands of years ago cause they are > nutritous, and convenient and very tasty (organic berries). And it is > possible to blow bubbles with the chewed wheat (gluten). Well anyway > we're still here in KS. Bye, Dennis Kemnitz > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2002 Report Share Posted March 14, 2002 > Okay, obviously I've got the wrong stuff. It chewed up and tasted like flour. Nothing remained to chew on. I'm chewing " hulled spelt " . What SHOULD I be using? > > >clip> > >>>>>>>>>>>> hello, Dennis Kemnitz here again: <clip> >. And it is > possible to blow bubbles with the chewed wheat (gluten). > >>>>>>>>>>>If confused by my clips don't hesitate to ask. In answer to your above question: I use organic Karl wheat because it's what I've been growing. It is a high protein non hybrid wheat at this point for sure, cause I've saved the seeds and replanted those seeds for 5 or 6 years. I don't know the actual protein content however it is high enough that the ground whole wheat berry makes good bread. The gluten is only part of the protein in the berry. However the gluten is the elastic " stuff " which allows the bread dough to " rise " and it is the stuff " wheat bubbles are made of " . It is necessary to have the higher protein wheat and quite a bit of it to blow the bubble. It seems to me about 3 or 4 " grinds " (partial mouthfuls chewed)is required. If the wheat is really hard I usually soak it an hour or so cause it's pretty dry (therefore hard). I usually grab some of the berries I'm sprouting. I soaked some kamut a few weeks ago and it seemed like it had much more " gum " (gluten protein). I didn't try bubbles though. These wheat berry bubbles are not very big and do not stick to the face. I hope this helps. Anyone made bread with kamut? Dennis Kemnitz > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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