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Sonja wrote:

>My children were reading in a book about how the early American

>pioneers would chew wheat kernels as they threshed. This would turn

>into a " gum " in their mouths as they chewed and worked. They

>suggested to me that this would be a healthy kind of bubble gum, an

>alternative. My mind of course went straight to the phytates. But

>then I thought, they probably would tire of the whole idea pretty

>quickly....

How much wheat phytates do you think they'll consume from casual use

as chew? How likely will this be to impact mineral absorption? And

which is likely to be more unhealthful- the phytate-laden grain or

bubble gum?

>but if they don't......do you think saliva would work as a soaking medium???

Probably. The saliva should work better than water...but you'd have a

lot less contact time.

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> They suggested to me that this would be a healthy kind of

> bubble gum, an alternative. My mind of course went straight to

> the phytates. But then I thought, they probably would tire of

> the whole idea pretty quickly....but if they don't......do you

> think saliva would work as a soaking medium???

Phytates in and of themselves aren't that big of a threat to our health.

The problem that they pose is mainly just that we can't absorb the minerals

that are bound to them. So it's unlikely that chewing the wheat kernels

would pose any threat whatsoever to your children. I also suspect that they

will, in fact, tire of it rather quickly. Raw wheat kernels don't have what

I consider to be a very compelling flavor.

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----- Original Message -----

From: " Kroyer " <skroyer@...>

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Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:17 AM

Subject: RE: pioneers chewed wheat kernels

> > They suggested to me that this would be a healthy kind of

> > bubble gum, an alternative. My mind of course went straight to

> > the phytates. But then I thought, they probably would tire of

> > the whole idea pretty quickly....but if they don't......do you

> > think saliva would work as a soaking medium???

>

> Phytates in and of themselves aren't that big of a threat to our health.

> The problem that they pose is mainly just that we can't absorb the

minerals

> that are bound to them. So it's unlikely that chewing the wheat kernels

> would pose any threat whatsoever to your children. I also suspect that

they

> will, in fact, tire of it rather quickly. Raw wheat kernels don't have

what

> I consider to be a very compelling flavor.

I also can't help but think that they might be a bit disappointed when they

try to blow bubbles.

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> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Kroyer " <skroyer@j...>

> < @y...>

> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:17 AM

> Subject: RE: pioneers chewed wheat kernels

>

>

> > > They suggested to me that this would be a healthy kind of

> > > bubble gum, an alternative. My mind of course went straight to

> > > the phytates. But then I thought, they probably would tire of

> > > the whole idea pretty quickly....but if they don't......do you

> > > think saliva would work as a soaking medium???

> >

> > Phytates in and of themselves aren't that big of a threat to our

health.

> > The problem that they pose is mainly just that we can't absorb the

> minerals

> > that are bound to them. So it's unlikely that chewing the wheat

kernels

> > would pose any threat whatsoever to your children. I also suspect

that

> they

> > will, in fact, tire of it rather quickly. Raw wheat kernels don't

have

> what

> > I consider to be a very compelling flavor.

>

> I also can't help but think that they might be a bit disappointed

when they

> try to blow bubbles.

>>>>>>>>>>>> hello, Dennis Kemnitz here again: I would much rather

my children, and everyboby else for that matter, chew wheat kernels

instead of bubble gum containing artificial flavors, dyes,and

sweeteners. Bubble gum probably even causes TMJ problems. How much

phytate can someone get from a few grams of wheat? And besides that

bubble gum costs a nickel now and how much wheat can you get for a

nickel when it costs three dollars for 60 pounds? The entire family

could probably chew wheat for a year and have some left over for the

next year and spend almost nothing. And I don't think the natural

wheat berry would cause dental caries, TMJ problems or plaque. I

think people ate wheat berries thousands of years ago cause they are

nutritous, and convenient and very tasty (organic berries). And it is

possible to blow bubbles with the chewed wheat (gluten). Well anyway

we're still here in KS. Bye, Dennis Kemnitz

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Are you serious? Kids can really blow bubbles with this? Now I've gotta try

it. Any wheat berry will do? I have spelt, I'm going now to give some to my

kids....I'll let you know what they say.

----- Original Message -----

From: dkemnitz2000

Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:14 PM

Subject: Re: pioneers chewed wheat kernels

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Kroyer " <skroyer@j...>

> < @y...>

> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:17 AM

> Subject: RE: pioneers chewed wheat kernels

>

>

> > > They suggested to me that this would be a healthy kind of

> > > bubble gum, an alternative. My mind of course went straight to

> > > the phytates. But then I thought, they probably would tire of

> > > the whole idea pretty quickly....but if they don't......do you

> > > think saliva would work as a soaking medium???

> >

> > Phytates in and of themselves aren't that big of a threat to our

health.

> > The problem that they pose is mainly just that we can't absorb the

> minerals

> > that are bound to them. So it's unlikely that chewing the wheat

kernels

> > would pose any threat whatsoever to your children. I also suspect

that

> they

> > will, in fact, tire of it rather quickly. Raw wheat kernels don't

have

> what

> > I consider to be a very compelling flavor.

>

> I also can't help but think that they might be a bit disappointed

when they

> try to blow bubbles.

>>>>>>>>>>>> hello, Dennis Kemnitz here again: I would much rather

my children, and everyboby else for that matter, chew wheat kernels

instead of bubble gum containing artificial flavors, dyes,and

sweeteners. Bubble gum probably even causes TMJ problems. How much

phytate can someone get from a few grams of wheat? And besides that

bubble gum costs a nickel now and how much wheat can you get for a

nickel when it costs three dollars for 60 pounds? The entire family

could probably chew wheat for a year and have some left over for the

next year and spend almost nothing. And I don't think the natural

wheat berry would cause dental caries, TMJ problems or plaque. I

think people ate wheat berries thousands of years ago cause they are

nutritous, and convenient and very tasty (organic berries). And it is

possible to blow bubbles with the chewed wheat (gluten). Well anyway

we're still here in KS. Bye, Dennis Kemnitz

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Okay, obviously I've got the wrong stuff. It chewed up and tasted like flour.

Nothing remained to chew on. I'm chewing " hulled spelt " . What SHOULD I be

using?

----- Original Message -----

From: Conway

Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:29 PM

Subject: Re: Re: pioneers chewed wheat kernels

Are you serious? Kids can really blow bubbles with this? Now I've gotta try

it. Any wheat berry will do? I have spelt, I'm going now to give some to my

kids....I'll let you know what they say.

----- Original Message -----

From: dkemnitz2000

Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:14 PM

Subject: Re: pioneers chewed wheat kernels

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Kroyer " <skroyer@j...>

> < @y...>

> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:17 AM

> Subject: RE: pioneers chewed wheat kernels

>

>

> > > They suggested to me that this would be a healthy kind of

> > > bubble gum, an alternative. My mind of course went straight to

> > > the phytates. But then I thought, they probably would tire of

> > > the whole idea pretty quickly....but if they don't......do you

> > > think saliva would work as a soaking medium???

> >

> > Phytates in and of themselves aren't that big of a threat to our

health.

> > The problem that they pose is mainly just that we can't absorb the

> minerals

> > that are bound to them. So it's unlikely that chewing the wheat

kernels

> > would pose any threat whatsoever to your children. I also suspect

that

> they

> > will, in fact, tire of it rather quickly. Raw wheat kernels don't

have

> what

> > I consider to be a very compelling flavor.

>

> I also can't help but think that they might be a bit disappointed

when they

> try to blow bubbles.

>>>>>>>>>>>> hello, Dennis Kemnitz here again: I would much rather

my children, and everyboby else for that matter, chew wheat kernels

instead of bubble gum containing artificial flavors, dyes,and

sweeteners. Bubble gum probably even causes TMJ problems. How much

phytate can someone get from a few grams of wheat? And besides that

bubble gum costs a nickel now and how much wheat can you get for a

nickel when it costs three dollars for 60 pounds? The entire family

could probably chew wheat for a year and have some left over for the

next year and spend almost nothing. And I don't think the natural

wheat berry would cause dental caries, TMJ problems or plaque. I

think people ate wheat berries thousands of years ago cause they are

nutritous, and convenient and very tasty (organic berries). And it is

possible to blow bubbles with the chewed wheat (gluten). Well anyway

we're still here in KS. Bye, Dennis Kemnitz

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I worked on the wheat harvest out west for 5 years, we always chewed wheat and

after about 1 1/2 hours you could blow a bubble.

It takes about a palm full relative to the palm that s connected to the person

chewing it.

Also warm whole kernel corn(non-gmo and organic of course) beats Frito's any

day, roasted soy (whole) bean beats peanuts any day! not to much though maybe 20

at a time , Sally will probably chew me

out over that one.

Conway wrote:

> Are you serious? Kids can really blow bubbles with this? Now I've gotta try

it. Any wheat berry will do? I have spelt, I'm going now to give some to my

kids....I'll let you know what they say.

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: dkemnitz2000

>

> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 6:14 PM

> Subject: Re: pioneers chewed wheat kernels

>

>

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: " Kroyer " <skroyer@j...>

> > < @y...>

> > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:17 AM

> > Subject: RE: pioneers chewed wheat kernels

> >

> >

> > > > They suggested to me that this would be a healthy kind of

> > > > bubble gum, an alternative. My mind of course went straight to

> > > > the phytates. But then I thought, they probably would tire of

> > > > the whole idea pretty quickly....but if they don't......do you

> > > > think saliva would work as a soaking medium???

> > >

> > > Phytates in and of themselves aren't that big of a threat to our

> health.

> > > The problem that they pose is mainly just that we can't absorb the

> > minerals

> > > that are bound to them. So it's unlikely that chewing the wheat

> kernels

> > > would pose any threat whatsoever to your children. I also suspect

> that

> > they

> > > will, in fact, tire of it rather quickly. Raw wheat kernels don't

> have

> > what

> > > I consider to be a very compelling flavor.

> >

> > I also can't help but think that they might be a bit disappointed

> when they

> > try to blow bubbles.

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> hello, Dennis Kemnitz here again: I would much rather

> my children, and everyboby else for that matter, chew wheat kernels

> instead of bubble gum containing artificial flavors, dyes,and

> sweeteners. Bubble gum probably even causes TMJ problems. How much

> phytate can someone get from a few grams of wheat? And besides that

> bubble gum costs a nickel now and how much wheat can you get for a

> nickel when it costs three dollars for 60 pounds? The entire family

> could probably chew wheat for a year and have some left over for the

> next year and spend almost nothing. And I don't think the natural

> wheat berry would cause dental caries, TMJ problems or plaque. I

> think people ate wheat berries thousands of years ago cause they are

> nutritous, and convenient and very tasty (organic berries). And it is

> possible to blow bubbles with the chewed wheat (gluten). Well anyway

> we're still here in KS. Bye, Dennis Kemnitz

>

>

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> Okay, obviously I've got the wrong stuff. It chewed up and tasted

like flour. Nothing remained to chew on. I'm chewing " hulled spelt " .

What SHOULD I be using?

>

>

>clip>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> hello, Dennis Kemnitz here again:

<clip>

>. And

it is

> possible to blow bubbles with the chewed wheat (gluten).

>

>>>>>>>>>>>If confused by my clips don't hesitate to ask. In answer to

your above question: I use organic Karl wheat because it's what I've

been growing. It is a high protein non hybrid wheat at this point for

sure, cause I've saved the seeds and replanted those seeds for 5 or 6

years. I don't know the actual protein content however it is high

enough that the ground whole wheat berry makes good bread. The gluten

is only part of the protein in the berry. However the gluten is the

elastic " stuff " which allows the bread dough to " rise " and it is the

stuff " wheat bubbles are made of " . It is necessary to have the higher

protein wheat and quite a bit of it to blow the bubble. It seems to

me about 3 or 4 " grinds " (partial mouthfuls chewed)is required. If

the wheat is really hard I usually soak it an hour or so cause it's

pretty dry (therefore hard). I usually grab some of the berries I'm

sprouting. I soaked some kamut a few weeks ago and it seemed like it

had much more " gum " (gluten protein). I didn't try bubbles though.

These wheat berry bubbles are not very big and do not stick to the

face. I hope this helps. Anyone made bread with kamut? Dennis

Kemnitz

>

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