Re: complete labs after breakthrough

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April 12, 2010

I would get n ACTH serum test run to see if high ACTH is causing the

high aldosterone. As for low insulin were you fasting? And do you

normally low carb? If yes to bith it may be fine, btu check ESTROGEN

levels as low estrogen can cause low insulin prodiuction. You can also

take l-arginine to stimulate more insulin.

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April 12, 2010

I would get n ACTH serum test run to see if high ACTH is causing the

high aldosterone. As for low insulin were you fasting? And do you

normally low carb? If yes to bith it may be fine, btu check ESTROGEN

levels as low estrogen can cause low insulin prodiuction. You can also

take l-arginine to stimulate more insulin.

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April 12, 2010

Oh dear, I am a bit scared about the high aldosterone result (don't know if I

should be or not). If ACTH were high, wouldn't cortisol be high as well...

Although you always say cortisol levels mean nothing when one is supplementing

(I took the test because my doctor asked for it), does this value mean anything

if compared with the high aldosterone?

Aldosterone: 309 pg/ml (10-105)

renin: 0.47 ng/ml/h (0.4-1.9)

cortisol: 16.6 ug/dl (5-25)

DHEA: 1.5 ug/ml (0.75-4.1)

basal insulin: 2.53 uUI/ml (6-27)

Regarding insulin, the answer is yes for both questions, my fasting glucose that

same morning was 93... estrogen is high within the normal range (post those

results later...)

Thanks a lot,

> I would get n ACTH serum test run to see if high ACTH is causing the

> high aldosterone. As for low insulin were you fasting? And do you

> normally low carb? If yes to bith it may be fine, btu check ESTROGEN

> levels as low estrogen can cause low insulin prodiuction. You can also

> take l-arginine to stimulate more insulin.

April 12, 2010

Oh dear, I am a bit scared about the high aldosterone result (don't know if I

should be or not). If ACTH were high, wouldn't cortisol be high as well...

Although you always say cortisol levels mean nothing when one is supplementing

(I took the test because my doctor asked for it), does this value mean anything

if compared with the high aldosterone?

Aldosterone: 309 pg/ml (10-105)

renin: 0.47 ng/ml/h (0.4-1.9)

cortisol: 16.6 ug/dl (5-25)

DHEA: 1.5 ug/ml (0.75-4.1)

basal insulin: 2.53 uUI/ml (6-27)

Regarding insulin, the answer is yes for both questions, my fasting glucose that

same morning was 93... estrogen is high within the normal range (post those

results later...)

Thanks a lot,

> I would get n ACTH serum test run to see if high ACTH is causing the

> high aldosterone. As for low insulin were you fasting? And do you

> normally low carb? If yes to bith it may be fine, btu check ESTROGEN

> levels as low estrogen can cause low insulin prodiuction. You can also

> take l-arginine to stimulate more insulin.

April 12, 2010

Oh dear, I am a bit scared about the high aldosterone result (don't know if I

should be or not). If ACTH were high, wouldn't cortisol be high as well...

Although you always say cortisol levels mean nothing when one is supplementing

(I took the test because my doctor asked for it), does this value mean anything

if compared with the high aldosterone?

Aldosterone: 309 pg/ml (10-105)

renin: 0.47 ng/ml/h (0.4-1.9)

cortisol: 16.6 ug/dl (5-25)

DHEA: 1.5 ug/ml (0.75-4.1)

basal insulin: 2.53 uUI/ml (6-27)

Regarding insulin, the answer is yes for both questions, my fasting glucose that

same morning was 93... estrogen is high within the normal range (post those

results later...)

Thanks a lot,

> I would get n ACTH serum test run to see if high ACTH is causing the

> high aldosterone. As for low insulin were you fasting? And do you

> normally low carb? If yes to bith it may be fine, btu check ESTROGEN

> levels as low estrogen can cause low insulin prodiuction. You can also

> take l-arginine to stimulate more insulin.

April 12, 2010

Ths is why you need to test JUAT ACTH serum. IF it is high it would

explain high aldosterone and would also tell us you need mroe HC.

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April 12, 2010

Ths is why you need to test JUAT ACTH serum. IF it is high it would

explain high aldosterone and would also tell us you need mroe HC.

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

April 12, 2010

Ths is why you need to test JUAT ACTH serum. IF it is high it would

explain high aldosterone and would also tell us you need mroe HC.

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April 13, 2010

Thanks, I will do the test.

I have been considering the possibility of having Adrenal hyperplasia (if that

is possible having normal female genitals).

I got a steroid profile done sometime ago and it has some altered results

(Pregnanediol, pregnantriol, tetrahydrodeoxycortisol and tetrahydrocortison are

all high). I think my doctor attributed it to PCOS, but I wonder...

I found an electrolite lab done in 2008 (before I even knew I had any

thyroid/adrenal problems) and this are the results:

Sodium: 139.0 mmol/L (135-145)

Potasium 4.8 mmol/L (3.5-5.1)

my recent results are (on cynomel and 30 HC):

Sodium: 138.0 mEq/L (135-145)

Potasium 3.96 mEq/L (3.5-5)

April 13, 2010

Sodium: 139.0 mmol/L (135-145)

Potasium 4.8 mmol/L (3.5-5.1)

my recent results are (on cynomel and 30 HC):

Sodium: 138.0 mEq/L (135-145)

Potasium 3.96 mEq/L (3.5-5)

WHat these two labs show me is LOW ALDOSTERONE. It has improved with HC as it

has SOME mineralcorticoid effects which took your HIGH potassium and used it to

shuffle some of your very low sodium into the cells btu you are still too low in

sodium so MORE sea salt. That your potassium dropped so loe indicated ot me that

you still need mroe sodium INSIDE the cells., So replacing both sodium and

poitassium night be enough to correct this now.

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April 13, 2010

Dear VAl, this is most confusing... because the latest electrolites go together

with a high aldosterone result:

Aldosterone: 309 pg/ml (10-105)

renin: 0.47 ng/ml/h (0.4-1.9)

Sodium: 138.0 mEq/L (135-145)

Potasium 3.96 mEq/L (3.5-5)

Thanks a lot,

>

> Sodium: 139.0 mmol/L (135-145)

> Potasium 4.8 mmol/L (3.5-5.1)

>

> my recent results are (on cynomel and 30 HC):

>

> Sodium: 138.0 mEq/L (135-145)

> Potasium 3.96 mEq/L (3.5-5)

>

> WHat these two labs show me is LOW ALDOSTERONE. It has improved with HC as it

has SOME mineralcorticoid effects which took your HIGH potassium and used it to

shuffle some of your very low sodium into the cells btu you are still too low in

sodium so MORE sea salt. That your potassium dropped so loe indicated ot me that

you still need mroe sodium INSIDE the cells., So replacing both sodium and

poitassium night be enough to correct this now.

>

April 13, 2010

OK maybe what I am seeing is your aldosterone came up rather than the HC

raising the mineralcorticoid effect. Either way you are in better shape

NOW than oyu were, but you need BOTH sodiun and potassium to gether at

this point. Your low sodium is causing the high aldosterone which si as

it shouldbe.! NORMAL reaciton to low sodium is for the body to produce

aldosterone to hold on to what little oyu have. Thsi si how the body cna

have fluid retention from LOW sodium. BUT oyu will need ot take

potassium so the sodium can go INTO the cells other wise just taking

salt will only cuase worsening fluid reteniton. Your body uises

potassium to move sodium from the se4rum inot the cells.,

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April 13, 2010

Many thanks. Do you still think I should have an ACTH test to see what is

happening with the high aldosterone?

I have been supplementing salt and potasium for a bit more than a week now

(although I had a stomach problem a few days ago and was vomiting and having

diarrhea, which must have spoiled things a bit).

>

> OK maybe what I am seeing is your aldosterone came up rather than the HC

> raising the mineralcorticoid effect. Either way you are in better shape

> NOW than oyu were, but you need BOTH sodiun and potassium to gether at

> this point. Your low sodium is causing the high aldosterone which si as

> it shouldbe.! NORMAL reaciton to low sodium is for the body to produce

> aldosterone to hold on to what little oyu have. Thsi si how the body cna

> have fluid retention from LOW sodium. BUT oyu will need ot take

> potassium so the sodium can go INTO the cells other wise just taking

> salt will only cuase worsening fluid reteniton. Your body uises

> potassium to move sodium from the se4rum inot the cells.,

>

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April 13, 2010

It would not hurt to get serum tested. If it is low then I am not sure

what to do as your renin was not high. I don;t knwo what else could

cause high aldosterone but I think your low sodium might eb enough to do

that.

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