Re: getting worse not better

[Guest guest]

since ferritin can be elevated with inflammation could it be that your ferritin "looks"normal but really is not and it is only looking higher due to inflammation...so maybe a full iron panel to determine if ferritin is really o.k or a false reading....

Subject: getting worse not betterTo: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, April 12, 2010, 4:13 PM

I'm totally at a loss as what to do anymore. I have tried everything and nothing helps. Since being on T3 only for over a year I'm still having high heart rate plus a bunch of other issues I didn't have before. I can't take T4 only, or Armour so what's left to take besides T3? I thought I was doing everything right. Today my heart rate is at 116 sitting and I can't bring it down for the life of me. Salt has not helped, HC has not helped, it fact I think it made it worse, I've tried taking magnesium. So what do I do? I'm getting very depressed and on top of this I keep gaining weight. 14 pounds in three months. This has been going on for the entire year. When I cut back on T3 from 75 to 70 mcg I become totally unable to function like I can't get out of bed. Right now I have foggy thinking and no strength in any of my arms or legs. I'm so sick people asking if I had labs done. I know they mean well but I take them every so many months and they

are always the same. I have taken ferritin but I'll take it once again to show how it's not low. I've taken that panel to show sodium ( can't think of it now ) it was a tab low and so I do add salt to my diet and in water ( celtic salt ).Ft3Ft4I've take Cortisol saliva five times and each time it shows not low but low on the normal side durning the day and morning is very high. So, I started taking Melatonin at night and got a great sleep but woke up like I had a hang over so stopped taking it and felt 100 % better when I don't take it.I watch what I eat. little sugar, low carbs lots of good fats and proteins.I think I'm doing everything right but yet I can't take T3. What's left for me to do? More tests to show what? What am I missing. I can't keep feeling this bad all the time.I hope someone can help because I'm getting tired of writing these messages and tried of not being able to figure this out. All I hear is low

ferritin and salt all the time. What am I missing here? What is I don't have low ferritin? What about other things that I need to be looking for?

[Guest guest]

since ferritin can be elevated with inflammation could it be that your ferritin "looks"normal but really is not and it is only looking higher due to inflammation...so maybe a full iron panel to determine if ferritin is really o.k or a false reading....

Subject: getting worse not betterTo: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, April 12, 2010, 4:13 PM

I'm totally at a loss as what to do anymore. I have tried everything and nothing helps. Since being on T3 only for over a year I'm still having high heart rate plus a bunch of other issues I didn't have before. I can't take T4 only, or Armour so what's left to take besides T3? I thought I was doing everything right. Today my heart rate is at 116 sitting and I can't bring it down for the life of me. Salt has not helped, HC has not helped, it fact I think it made it worse, I've tried taking magnesium. So what do I do? I'm getting very depressed and on top of this I keep gaining weight. 14 pounds in three months. This has been going on for the entire year. When I cut back on T3 from 75 to 70 mcg I become totally unable to function like I can't get out of bed. Right now I have foggy thinking and no strength in any of my arms or legs. I'm so sick people asking if I had labs done. I know they mean well but I take them every so many months and they

are always the same. I have taken ferritin but I'll take it once again to show how it's not low. I've taken that panel to show sodium ( can't think of it now ) it was a tab low and so I do add salt to my diet and in water ( celtic salt ).Ft3Ft4I've take Cortisol saliva five times and each time it shows not low but low on the normal side durning the day and morning is very high. So, I started taking Melatonin at night and got a great sleep but woke up like I had a hang over so stopped taking it and felt 100 % better when I don't take it.I watch what I eat. little sugar, low carbs lots of good fats and proteins.I think I'm doing everything right but yet I can't take T3. What's left for me to do? More tests to show what? What am I missing. I can't keep feeling this bad all the time.I hope someone can help because I'm getting tired of writing these messages and tried of not being able to figure this out. All I hear is low

ferritin and salt all the time. What am I missing here? What is I don't have low ferritin? What about other things that I need to be looking for?

[Guest guest]

since ferritin can be elevated with inflammation could it be that your ferritin "looks"normal but really is not and it is only looking higher due to inflammation...so maybe a full iron panel to determine if ferritin is really o.k or a false reading....

Subject: getting worse not betterTo: RT3_T3 Date: Monday, April 12, 2010, 4:13 PM

I'm totally at a loss as what to do anymore. I have tried everything and nothing helps. Since being on T3 only for over a year I'm still having high heart rate plus a bunch of other issues I didn't have before. I can't take T4 only, or Armour so what's left to take besides T3? I thought I was doing everything right. Today my heart rate is at 116 sitting and I can't bring it down for the life of me. Salt has not helped, HC has not helped, it fact I think it made it worse, I've tried taking magnesium. So what do I do? I'm getting very depressed and on top of this I keep gaining weight. 14 pounds in three months. This has been going on for the entire year. When I cut back on T3 from 75 to 70 mcg I become totally unable to function like I can't get out of bed. Right now I have foggy thinking and no strength in any of my arms or legs. I'm so sick people asking if I had labs done. I know they mean well but I take them every so many months and they

are always the same. I have taken ferritin but I'll take it once again to show how it's not low. I've taken that panel to show sodium ( can't think of it now ) it was a tab low and so I do add salt to my diet and in water ( celtic salt ).Ft3Ft4I've take Cortisol saliva five times and each time it shows not low but low on the normal side durning the day and morning is very high. So, I started taking Melatonin at night and got a great sleep but woke up like I had a hang over so stopped taking it and felt 100 % better when I don't take it.I watch what I eat. little sugar, low carbs lots of good fats and proteins.I think I'm doing everything right but yet I can't take T3. What's left for me to do? More tests to show what? What am I missing. I can't keep feeling this bad all the time.I hope someone can help because I'm getting tired of writing these messages and tried of not being able to figure this out. All I hear is low

ferritin and salt all the time. What am I missing here? What is I don't have low ferritin? What about other things that I need to be looking for?

[Guest guest]

Going on symptoms alone they sound like high cortiosl. Can you post your

mnost recent saliva labs? Sorry but I need ot see numbers ot begin to

guess on these things. Someitmes we have to build in those labs from

your sympotms.

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http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

[Guest guest]

Going on symptoms alone they sound like high cortiosl. Can you post your

mnost recent saliva labs? Sorry but I need ot see numbers ot begin to

guess on these things. Someitmes we have to build in those labs from

your sympotms.

--

http://nthadrenalsweb.org/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

[Guest guest]

Going on symptoms alone they sound like high cortiosl. Can you post your

mnost recent saliva labs? Sorry but I need ot see numbers ot begin to

guess on these things. Someitmes we have to build in those labs from

your sympotms.

--

http://nthadrenalsweb.org/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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Here are my last labs:Ferritin results were 211 ( ref. 10- 291)sodium was 137 but I supplement with celtic and water I also supplement with Vit D3 - 12,000 dailytake a multi vit plus, supplement with Vit E Estradiol- 2.6 1.3-3.3 Progesterone- 192L 200-3000Pg/E2- 74L 100-500 when E2 1.3-3.3 pg/mlTestosterone 19 16-55DHEAS 7.6 2-23Cortisol morn. 23.3 H 3.7-9.5Cortisol Noon 1.6 1.2-3.0Cortisol Evening 0.9 .6-1.9Free T4 .4L .7-2.5Free T3 6.8 2.5-6.5TSH <0.2 0.5-3.0TPO 20 1-150 Vit D 25-OH, D2 <4 <4 is not supplementingVit D, 25-OH, D3 50 32-100Vit D, 25-OH, total 50 32-100

Going on symptoms alone they sound like high cortiosl. Can you post your

mnost recent saliva labs? Sorry but I need ot see numbers ot begin to

guess on these things. Someitmes we have to build in those labs from

your sympotms.

--

http://nthadrenalsweb.org/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

[Guest guest]

Here are my last labs:Ferritin results were 211 ( ref. 10- 291)sodium was 137 but I supplement with celtic and water I also supplement with Vit D3 - 12,000 dailytake a multi vit plus, supplement with Vit E Estradiol- 2.6 1.3-3.3 Progesterone- 192L 200-3000Pg/E2- 74L 100-500 when E2 1.3-3.3 pg/mlTestosterone 19 16-55DHEAS 7.6 2-23Cortisol morn. 23.3 H 3.7-9.5Cortisol Noon 1.6 1.2-3.0Cortisol Evening 0.9 .6-1.9Free T4 .4L .7-2.5Free T3 6.8 2.5-6.5TSH <0.2 0.5-3.0TPO 20 1-150 Vit D 25-OH, D2 <4 <4 is not supplementingVit D, 25-OH, D3 50 32-100Vit D, 25-OH, total 50 32-100

Going on symptoms alone they sound like high cortiosl. Can you post your

mnost recent saliva labs? Sorry but I need ot see numbers ot begin to

guess on these things. Someitmes we have to build in those labs from

your sympotms.

--

http://nthadrenalsweb.org/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

[Guest guest]

Here are my last labs:Ferritin results were 211 ( ref. 10- 291)sodium was 137 but I supplement with celtic and water I also supplement with Vit D3 - 12,000 dailytake a multi vit plus, supplement with Vit E Estradiol- 2.6 1.3-3.3 Progesterone- 192L 200-3000Pg/E2- 74L 100-500 when E2 1.3-3.3 pg/mlTestosterone 19 16-55DHEAS 7.6 2-23Cortisol morn. 23.3 H 3.7-9.5Cortisol Noon 1.6 1.2-3.0Cortisol Evening 0.9 .6-1.9Free T4 .4L .7-2.5Free T3 6.8 2.5-6.5TSH <0.2 0.5-3.0TPO 20 1-150 Vit D 25-OH, D2 <4 <4 is not supplementingVit D, 25-OH, D3 50 32-100Vit D, 25-OH, total 50 32-100

Going on symptoms alone they sound like high cortiosl. Can you post your

mnost recent saliva labs? Sorry but I need ot see numbers ot begin to

guess on these things. Someitmes we have to build in those labs from

your sympotms.

--

http://nthadrenalsweb.org/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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I forgot to mention I also take 2x day Vit C, 3x day 1tb Coconut oil, Omega oilseat low carbs and little if any sugar

Here are my last labs:Ferritin results were 211 ( ref. 10- 291)sodium was 137 but I supplement with celtic and water I also supplement with Vit D3 - 12,000 dailytake a multi vit plus, supplement with Vit E Estradiol- 2.6 1.3-3.3 Progesterone- 192L 200-3000Pg/E2- 74L 100-500 when E2 1.3-3.3 pg/mlTestosterone 19 16-55DHEAS 7.6 2-23Cortisol morn. 23.3 H 3.7-9.5Cortisol Noon 1.6 1.2-3.0Cortisol Evening 0.9 .6-1.9Free T4 .4L .7-2.5Free T3 6.8 2.5-6.5TSH <0.2 0.5-3.0TPO 20 1-150 Vit D 25-OH, D2 <4 <4 is not supplementingVit D, 25-OH, D3 50 32-100Vit D, 25-OH, total 50 32-100

Going on symptoms alone they sound like high cortiosl. Can you post your

mnost recent saliva labs? Sorry but I need ot see numbers ot begin to

guess on these things. Someitmes we have to build in those labs from

your sympotms.

--

http://nthadrenalsweb.org/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

[Guest guest]

I forgot to mention I also take 2x day Vit C, 3x day 1tb Coconut oil, Omega oilseat low carbs and little if any sugar

Here are my last labs:Ferritin results were 211 ( ref. 10- 291)sodium was 137 but I supplement with celtic and water I also supplement with Vit D3 - 12,000 dailytake a multi vit plus, supplement with Vit E Estradiol- 2.6 1.3-3.3 Progesterone- 192L 200-3000Pg/E2- 74L 100-500 when E2 1.3-3.3 pg/mlTestosterone 19 16-55DHEAS 7.6 2-23Cortisol morn. 23.3 H 3.7-9.5Cortisol Noon 1.6 1.2-3.0Cortisol Evening 0.9 .6-1.9Free T4 .4L .7-2.5Free T3 6.8 2.5-6.5TSH <0.2 0.5-3.0TPO 20 1-150 Vit D 25-OH, D2 <4 <4 is not supplementingVit D, 25-OH, D3 50 32-100Vit D, 25-OH, total 50 32-100

Going on symptoms alone they sound like high cortiosl. Can you post your

mnost recent saliva labs? Sorry but I need ot see numbers ot begin to

guess on these things. Someitmes we have to build in those labs from

your sympotms.

--

http://nthadrenalsweb.org/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

[Guest guest]

I forgot to mention I also take 2x day Vit C, 3x day 1tb Coconut oil, Omega oilseat low carbs and little if any sugar

Here are my last labs:Ferritin results were 211 ( ref. 10- 291)sodium was 137 but I supplement with celtic and water I also supplement with Vit D3 - 12,000 dailytake a multi vit plus, supplement with Vit E Estradiol- 2.6 1.3-3.3 Progesterone- 192L 200-3000Pg/E2- 74L 100-500 when E2 1.3-3.3 pg/mlTestosterone 19 16-55DHEAS 7.6 2-23Cortisol morn. 23.3 H 3.7-9.5Cortisol Noon 1.6 1.2-3.0Cortisol Evening 0.9 .6-1.9Free T4 .4L .7-2.5Free T3 6.8 2.5-6.5TSH <0.2 0.5-3.0TPO 20 1-150 Vit D 25-OH, D2 <4 <4 is not supplementingVit D, 25-OH, D3 50 32-100Vit D, 25-OH, total 50 32-100

Going on symptoms alone they sound like high cortiosl. Can you post your

mnost recent saliva labs? Sorry but I need ot see numbers ot begin to

guess on these things. Someitmes we have to build in those labs from

your sympotms.

--

http://nthadrenalsweb.org/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

[Guest guest]

Have you ever considered heavy metal toxicity. Heavy metals are known to settle

in glands and organs, encourage pathogens, and may cause resistance to various

treatments as well as weight gain. They can disrupt communication between cells

severly.

What Val's says makes sense to with high cortisol which would give you cushings

like symptoms such as depression, low sex drive, sometimes causes people to be

night owls, moon face, weight gain, buffalo hump around C7, skin tags around

neck area, pigmentation problems with skin..... also some are prone to pituitary

adenoma's and that can be the cause of cushing's.

Lastly there are many, viruses, bacteria, and parasites which posses quite an

intellegence in terms survival mechanisms which allow them to make your body

their permanent residence and in the mean time effect organ function, create

severe mineral/vitamin deficiencies by disrupting digestion and so on.

Personally if it where me and all my #'s check out ok including cortisol, i

would start looking else where. While thyroid, adrenals,ferritin are all huge

there are still many other possibilities from inherited genetic weakness in

organs/glands or genetic enzyme deficiencies to being severly deficient on an

intracellular level in key nutrients that are required to utilize fats

efficiently or produce key neurotransmitters that allow the brain to function

optimally.

[Guest guest]

Have you ever considered heavy metal toxicity. Heavy metals are known to settle

in glands and organs, encourage pathogens, and may cause resistance to various

treatments as well as weight gain. They can disrupt communication between cells

severly.

What Val's says makes sense to with high cortisol which would give you cushings

like symptoms such as depression, low sex drive, sometimes causes people to be

night owls, moon face, weight gain, buffalo hump around C7, skin tags around

neck area, pigmentation problems with skin..... also some are prone to pituitary

adenoma's and that can be the cause of cushing's.

Lastly there are many, viruses, bacteria, and parasites which posses quite an

intellegence in terms survival mechanisms which allow them to make your body

their permanent residence and in the mean time effect organ function, create

severe mineral/vitamin deficiencies by disrupting digestion and so on.

Personally if it where me and all my #'s check out ok including cortisol, i

would start looking else where. While thyroid, adrenals,ferritin are all huge

there are still many other possibilities from inherited genetic weakness in

organs/glands or genetic enzyme deficiencies to being severly deficient on an

intracellular level in key nutrients that are required to utilize fats

efficiently or produce key neurotransmitters that allow the brain to function

optimally.

[Guest guest]

Well you have already done one of the tests which is the cortisol test. Your

night time cortisol doesn't seem high enough to suggest cushings. Although it

looks like your morning cortisol is high- although this would not suggest

cushings maybe it is high enough in the morning to create some symptoms. Val is

really the expert and she would have a much better idea about this.

With the heavy metal you made have additional symptoms like ringing of the ear,

poor memory recall, numbness/tingling sensations, weak kidneys (urinating

frequently at night, low back soreness, joint discomfort, inhibition of enzymes,

hair loss. These are just some and of course certain people might have most

symptoms while some will have a few.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Well you have already done one of the tests which is the cortisol test. Your

night time cortisol doesn't seem high enough to suggest cushings. Although it

looks like your morning cortisol is high- although this would not suggest

cushings maybe it is high enough in the morning to create some symptoms. Val is

really the expert and she would have a much better idea about this.

With the heavy metal you made have additional symptoms like ringing of the ear,

poor memory recall, numbness/tingling sensations, weak kidneys (urinating

frequently at night, low back soreness, joint discomfort, inhibition of enzymes,

hair loss. These are just some and of course certain people might have most

symptoms while some will have a few.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Well you have already done one of the tests which is the cortisol test. Your

night time cortisol doesn't seem high enough to suggest cushings. Although it

looks like your morning cortisol is high- although this would not suggest

cushings maybe it is high enough in the morning to create some symptoms. Val is

really the expert and she would have a much better idea about this.

With the heavy metal you made have additional symptoms like ringing of the ear,

poor memory recall, numbness/tingling sensations, weak kidneys (urinating

frequently at night, low back soreness, joint discomfort, inhibition of enzymes,

hair loss. These are just some and of course certain people might have most

symptoms while some will have a few.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Your ferritin is very high, have you had a full iron panel? I knwo more

labs, btu that si how to find out what is oging on. I have often

wondered if high ferritin interferes with thyroid as low does, it may be

part of your issues. With your labs I would suggest adaptogens. Rhodiola

and Phosphorylated serine. Possibly DHEA, progesterone and

Testosterone., ALL your androgens are very low and that can take the

strength right out of you and cause muscle wasting and fatigue. That si

also symptomatic of HIGH cortiosl, so I would take the counters for it

which si androgen replacement, zinc, DHEA in the monrings and melatonin

at bedtime. PS during the day with rodiola and ashwaganda.

--

http://nthadrenalsweb.org/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

[Guest guest]

Your ferritin is very high, have you had a full iron panel? I knwo more

labs, btu that si how to find out what is oging on. I have often

wondered if high ferritin interferes with thyroid as low does, it may be

part of your issues. With your labs I would suggest adaptogens. Rhodiola

and Phosphorylated serine. Possibly DHEA, progesterone and

Testosterone., ALL your androgens are very low and that can take the

strength right out of you and cause muscle wasting and fatigue. That si

also symptomatic of HIGH cortiosl, so I would take the counters for it

which si androgen replacement, zinc, DHEA in the monrings and melatonin

at bedtime. PS during the day with rodiola and ashwaganda.

--

http://nthadrenalsweb.org/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

[Guest guest]

Your ferritin is very high, have you had a full iron panel? I knwo more

labs, btu that si how to find out what is oging on. I have often

wondered if high ferritin interferes with thyroid as low does, it may be

part of your issues. With your labs I would suggest adaptogens. Rhodiola

and Phosphorylated serine. Possibly DHEA, progesterone and

Testosterone., ALL your androgens are very low and that can take the

strength right out of you and cause muscle wasting and fatigue. That si

also symptomatic of HIGH cortiosl, so I would take the counters for it

which si androgen replacement, zinc, DHEA in the monrings and melatonin

at bedtime. PS during the day with rodiola and ashwaganda.

--

http://nthadrenalsweb.org/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

[Guest guest]

Maybe it's the HC. Could it be possible you don't need it anymore. I didn't feel good on it and I am weening down and starting to feel like my old self. Something to think about. S

To: RT3_T3 Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 3:13:43 PMSubject: getting worse not better

I'm totally at a loss as what to do anymore. I have tried everything and nothing helps. Since being on T3 only for over a year I'm still having high heart rate plus a bunch of other issues I didn't have before. I can't take T4 only, or Armour so what's left to take besides T3? I thought I was doing everything right. Today my heart rate is at 116 sitting and I can't bring it down for the life of me. Salt has not helped, HC has not helped, it fact I think it made it worse, I've tried taking magnesium. So what do I do? I'm getting very depressed and on top of this I keep gaining weight. 14 pounds in three months. This has been going on for the entire year. When I cut back on T3 from 75 to 70 mcg I become totally unable to function like I can't get out of bed. Right now I have foggy thinking and no strength in any of my arms or legs. I'm so sick people asking if I had labs done. I know they mean well but I take them every so many months and they

are always the same. I have taken ferritin but I'll take it once again to show how it's not low. I've taken that panel to show sodium ( can't think of it now ) it was a tab low and so I do add salt to my diet and in water ( celtic salt ).Ft3Ft4I've take Cortisol saliva five times and each time it shows not low but low on the normal side durning the day and morning is very high. So, I started taking Melatonin at night and got a great sleep but woke up like I had a hang over so stopped taking it and felt 100 % better when I don't take it.I watch what I eat. little sugar, low carbs lots of good fats and proteins.I think I'm doing everything right but yet I can't take T3. What's left for me to do? More tests to show what? What am I missing. I can't keep feeling this bad all the time.I hope someone can help because I'm getting tired of writing these messages and tried of not being able to figure this out. All I hear is low

ferritin and salt all the time. What am I missing here? What is I don't have low ferritin? What about other things that I need to be looking for?

[Guest guest]

Val, I was taking 3mg of Melatonin and I was waking up groggy and sick. So, I started to take 1/2 mg and that worked much better, then I stopped taking it altogether. I can't sleep as well when I don't take some melatonin and 1/4 or 1/2 seems to work best for me. I'll get a full iron panel done and I want to take another cortisol saliva test, what other tests do I need to take?

Your ferritin is very high, have you had a full iron panel? I knwo more

labs, btu that si how to find out what is oging on. I have often

wondered if high ferritin interferes with thyroid as low does, it may be

part of your issues. With your labs I would suggest adaptogens. Rhodiola

and Phosphorylated serine. Possibly DHEA, progesterone and

Testosterone., ALL your androgens are very low and that can take the

strength right out of you and cause muscle wasting and fatigue. That si

also symptomatic of HIGH cortiosl, so I would take the counters for it

which si androgen replacement, zinc, DHEA in the monrings and melatonin

at bedtime. PS during the day with rodiola and ashwaganda.

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http://nthadrenalsweb.org/

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There are three tests for iron with EconoLabs, Iron and TIBC, Iron serum and UIBC... which one do I take?

Your ferritin is very high, have you had a full iron panel? I knwo more

labs, btu that si how to find out what is oging on. I have often

wondered if high ferritin interferes with thyroid as low does, it may be

part of your issues. With your labs I would suggest adaptogens. Rhodiola

and Phosphorylated serine. Possibly DHEA, progesterone and

Testosterone., ALL your androgens are very low and that can take the

strength right out of you and cause muscle wasting and fatigue. That si

also symptomatic of HIGH cortiosl, so I would take the counters for it

which si androgen replacement, zinc, DHEA in the monrings and melatonin

at bedtime. PS during the day with rodiola and ashwaganda.

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

http://faqhelp.webs.com/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://www.thyroid-rt3.com/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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Interesting. Sounds like your kidneys are burdened. Val suggestion about a full

iron panel is a good idea b/c if serum iron, transferrin saturation, and

ferritin are high and you have low total iron binding capacity this is

mostlikely hemochromatosis which is heavy metal toxicity. With iron you might

also have bronze look to your skin or some can look jaundice b/c of stress on

liver.

However if this isn't the case there are many troubling heavy metals out there.

Especially if you had lots of metal fillings. God knows there's various ways to

be exposed. In fact it can even be passed from parent to child.

B12 will also help protect your nervous system and should help w/ tingling. As

you might already know b12 def can also

cause a some of your symptoms.

[Guest guest]

Interesting. Sounds like your kidneys are burdened. Val suggestion about a full

iron panel is a good idea b/c if serum iron, transferrin saturation, and

ferritin are high and you have low total iron binding capacity this is

mostlikely hemochromatosis which is heavy metal toxicity. With iron you might

also have bronze look to your skin or some can look jaundice b/c of stress on

liver.

However if this isn't the case there are many troubling heavy metals out there.

Especially if you had lots of metal fillings. God knows there's various ways to

be exposed. In fact it can even be passed from parent to child.

B12 will also help protect your nervous system and should help w/ tingling. As

you might already know b12 def can also

cause a some of your symptoms.