Re: New Lab results - please help - thank you!

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Haley at the very least ytou need ot get FT3 tested,. You also need TSI

antibodies as with FT4 this high on no thyroid I am suspicious of Graves

Disease.

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Hi Val,

Oh my! I never even thought of graves disease coming into the picture! But I am

definitely not hypERthyroid - still have very little energy, could fall asleep

right now - is graves still possible if you don't have any energy?! Surely I

would be losing weight, too? In the last month I have been putting ON weight, so

I cut my calories down last week, and still no weight loss.

Ok, I will head to the doc again on Monday...oh dear. Could the isocort I am on

be causing this?!

Do you perhaps have any idea about my calcium situation?

And are sodium and potassium ok?

Thanks so much!

>

> Haley at the very least ytou need ot get FT3 tested,. You also need TSI

> antibodies as with FT4 this high on no thyroid I am suspicious of Graves

> Disease.

>

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Hi Val,

Oh my! I never even thought of graves disease coming into the picture! But I am

definitely not hypERthyroid - still have very little energy, could fall asleep

right now - is graves still possible if you don't have any energy?! Surely I

would be losing weight, too? In the last month I have been putting ON weight, so

I cut my calories down last week, and still no weight loss.

Ok, I will head to the doc again on Monday...oh dear. Could the isocort I am on

be causing this?!

Do you perhaps have any idea about my calcium situation?

And are sodium and potassium ok?

Thanks so much!

>

> Haley at the very least ytou need ot get FT3 tested,. You also need TSI

> antibodies as with FT4 this high on no thyroid I am suspicious of Graves

> Disease.

>

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>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

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Yes wiht Graves you will be VERY exhausted i fthe proper body controls

are in place which woudl be RT3. Thsi si what protects people from dying

with high thyroid when they have it. SO we need to determine if ti is

playing a role here b eofre tryign to " fix " it. Yes Iwould supplement

some calcium AND vitamin D wiht your labs. the rest loks fine.

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[Guest guest]

Yes wiht Graves you will be VERY exhausted i fthe proper body controls

are in place which woudl be RT3. Thsi si what protects people from dying

with high thyroid when they have it. SO we need to determine if ti is

playing a role here b eofre tryign to " fix " it. Yes Iwould supplement

some calcium AND vitamin D wiht your labs. the rest loks fine.

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[Guest guest]

Yes wiht Graves you will be VERY exhausted i fthe proper body controls

are in place which woudl be RT3. Thsi si what protects people from dying

with high thyroid when they have it. SO we need to determine if ti is

playing a role here b eofre tryign to " fix " it. Yes Iwould supplement

some calcium AND vitamin D wiht your labs. the rest loks fine.

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Thanks Val. Ok, I guess its back to the doc.

Do you think isocort could cause this? Perhaps a reaction to the echinachea or

something?

And do you have any idea about my extremely high aldosterone?

Thanks again! Sorry for all the questions!

>

> Yes wiht Graves you will be VERY exhausted i fthe proper body controls

> are in place which woudl be RT3. Thsi si what protects people from dying

> with high thyroid when they have it. SO we need to determine if ti is

> playing a role here b eofre tryign to " fix " it. Yes Iwould supplement

> some calcium AND vitamin D wiht your labs. the rest loks fine.

>

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> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

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Thanks Val. Ok, I guess its back to the doc.

Do you think isocort could cause this? Perhaps a reaction to the echinachea or

something?

And do you have any idea about my extremely high aldosterone?

Thanks again! Sorry for all the questions!

>

> Yes wiht Graves you will be VERY exhausted i fthe proper body controls

> are in place which woudl be RT3. Thsi si what protects people from dying

> with high thyroid when they have it. SO we need to determine if ti is

> playing a role here b eofre tryign to " fix " it. Yes Iwould supplement

> some calcium AND vitamin D wiht your labs. the rest loks fine.

>

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>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Val. Ok, I guess its back to the doc.

Do you think isocort could cause this? Perhaps a reaction to the echinachea or

something?

And do you have any idea about my extremely high aldosterone?

Thanks again! Sorry for all the questions!

>

> Yes wiht Graves you will be VERY exhausted i fthe proper body controls

> are in place which woudl be RT3. Thsi si what protects people from dying

> with high thyroid when they have it. SO we need to determine if ti is

> playing a role here b eofre tryign to " fix " it. Yes Iwould supplement

> some calcium AND vitamin D wiht your labs. the rest loks fine.

>

> --

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>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

>

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Isocort would not cause this, but wiht high aldosterone it is a fair

guess oyu may also have high ACTH and high Cortisol.

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Isocort would not cause this, but wiht high aldosterone it is a fair

guess oyu may also have high ACTH and high Cortisol.

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Thanks again, Val. Do you think the lab could have made a mistake on my

aldosterone test then? It was 69.53ng/dl!! I had just taken my isocort 2 hours

before (5 tabs).

I don't know how I could have high cortisol if I originally had low cortisol,

which is why I went on isocort?! And my temps are not 100% stable yet! Could

they be unstable with high cortisol? Should I decrease my isocort then?! This is

all so overwhelming!

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> Isocort would not cause this, but wiht high aldosterone it is a fair

> guess oyu may also have high ACTH and high Cortisol.

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But your lab MAY have differnt ranges so I woudl not assume anything

from thta. ASK the doctor or call the lab for ranges.

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Ok Val, sure, will get in contact with my doc, but if it turns out to be the

" normal " reference range (i.e. over 30 or so is high), should I then start

weaning off my isocort? Even with unstable temps?

Also, I can carry on supping my iron at 200mg a day, right? I shouldn't be

worried about the 48% transferrin saturation?

Thanks again!

>

> But your lab MAY have differnt ranges so I woudl not assume anything

> from thta. ASK the doctor or call the lab for ranges.

>

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No I would not wena off Isocort until you get those labs and probably

not then. Low cortils can cause high Rt3 as well, which ususlaly will

eventually lower T4 levels, btu they can go high because your body is

not able to use thyroid.

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Ok, thanks Val, I will get Free T3, free T4 and TSI done on Monday and go from

there. I can carry on supplementing iron (200mg a day) right?

>

> No I would not wena off Isocort until you get those labs and probably

> not then. Low cortils can cause high Rt3 as well, which ususlaly will

> eventually lower T4 levels, btu they can go high because your body is

> not able to use thyroid.

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Yes the iron is fine.

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Hi Val,

Ok, great thanx! Sorry, just one more thing - I re-read your post and please

tell me if I've got this right:

If someone has high RT3 and low cortisol, but they raise their cortisol to good

levels using HC/isocort for example, but they do not go on any T3 to get rid of

the RT3 - then their RT3 levels would INCREASE i.e. Free T4 may increase? But

then their RT3 levels and Free T4 levels would decrease when they started T3?

Is this correct? Or am I more confused than I think?!

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> Yes the iron is fine.

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Hayley,

I don't think everyone follows the typical symptoms for Graves. My friend was exhausted, gaining weight, etc...she went through so much testing, and FINALLY they figured out she had Graves Disease.

Terri

From: hayley

Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 6:05 AM

To: RT3_T3

Subject: Re: New Lab results - please help - thank you!

Hi Val,Oh my! I never even thought of graves disease coming into the picture! But I am definitely not hypERthyroid - still have very little energy, could fall asleep right now - is graves still possible if you don't have any energy?! Surely I would be losing weight, too? In the last month I have been putting ON weight, so I cut my calories down last week, and still no weight loss.Ok, I will head to the doc again on Monday...oh dear. Could the isocort I am on be causing this?! Do you perhaps have any idea about my calcium situation? And are sodium and potassium ok?Thanks so much!>> Haley at the very least ytou need ot get FT3 tested,. You also need TSI > antibodies as with FT4 this high on no thyroid I am suspicious of Graves > Disease.> > -- > Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV> > http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/>

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Hi Val,

So I called my doc about my high aldosterone (69 ng/dl) and apparently he got

the units wrong - its actually 69pg/ml and the reference range for the labs is

(Erect 40-310pg/ml). So is this reading ok? Or a little on the low side

considering I took 5 isocort 2 hours before the test?

My potassium is 4.2 (3.5-5.1) and my sodium is 141 (136 -151).

Thanks again!

>

> But your lab MAY have differnt ranges so I woudl not assume anything

> from thta. ASK the doctor or call the lab for ranges.

>

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This is VERY low. You probably need Florinef.

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Hi Val,

Ok, thanks. Is there anything else I can do instead of the florinef, because I

know my doc here won't give it to me. He says my result is " normal " . Also, what

would be an optimum aldosterone result? Near the top of the range? Could this be

why I am battling to stabilise my temps on 5-3-2-1 isocort?

Thanks!

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> This is VERY low. You probably need Florinef.

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Aldosterone should be mid range to 2/3 range to be good. I woudl try

Licorice root.

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Ok Val, but I take isocort, too - would this be ok?! Should I maybe decrease my

isocort a bit? Because maybe I don't actually need that much cortisol. When I

first started treating my adrenals, I took 1000mg of licorice a day for 3 months

without the isocort and didn't get stable temps - so perhaps the combo of

decreased isocort and licorice may do the trick?

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> Aldosterone should be mid range to 2/3 range to be good. I woudl try

> Licorice root.

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I would not decrease your Isocort. I would try the two together.

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