Re: Hyper symptom/ Could it be rT3?

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Yikes those Saliva results are very low.

Can you post your ACTH Stim results?

Have you got Sodium, Potassium, Calcium & magnesium results?

Ever tested Aldosterone & renin?

Lethal Lee

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I changed to Natural thyroid a year ago after taking Levothyroxine for 15

years and I was doing well. Then about a month ago I became hyperthyroid, it

took me a while to realise this was the problem so I stopped taking NDT for a

week but since then haven't been able to tolerate taking it again. So now I am

back with hypo symptoms. Could this be rT3?

>

> Last September I had a Adrenal Stress Profile (Genova) and as the results

indicated low adrenal function I had my GP refer me to Endo as I wanted a

diagnosis from the NHS. From the synachten test he said my Adrenals were fine

(no surprise there then) so now I have to decide what to do next.

>

> I have been supporting my adrenals by taking Co Q10, Ginkgo Bilbao, Vitamin C

and Vitamin D3 ( D3 low on NHS test). I can't tolerate Nutri adrenal extra or

Isocort so I have just order Thorne Adrenal Cortex to try.

>

> Adrenal Stress Profile

> Sample 1 2.6 (12-22)

> Sample 2 1.5 (5.0-9.0)

> Sample 3 2.1 (3.0-7.0)

> Sample 4 0.5 (1.0-3.0)

>

> Total daily cortisol 6.7 (21-41)

>

> DHEA

> am 0.31 in range

> pm 0.16 Low

>

> DHEA: Cortisol Ratio 3.51

>

> Thyroid blood test when hyper symptoms but stoppped NDT for 24 hours

> TSH 0.04 (0.10-4.00 )

> Free T4 12.1 (11.00-22.00)

> No FreeT3 even though asked for

>

> Also Blood pressure is up and if it doesn't come down soon my GP wants to

treat it but I am reluctant to take medication. Blood pressure reading drops on

standing by 10.

>

> Basal Temps 36.4 and pulse 74 since stopping NDT. I keep forgetting to do

temps through the day.

>

> I know I need to

> 1.Get back on thyroid medication and have been taking a little T3 around

20mcg.

> 2.Address the poor adrenal function

> 3.Lower Blood pressure and high cholesterol.

>

> I just not sure what to do next? Will the Adrenal cortex supplement be enough

or do I need to consider HC. If it could be rT3 should I start with sorting

that first.

>

> I feel so ill and as my daughter is very ill ME/CFS with adrenal/ thyroid

issues I want to be as well as I can. Any advice would be great.

>

> Judy

>

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Adrenal Stress Profile

Sample 1 2.6 (12-22)

Sample 2 1.5 (5.0-9.0)

Sample 3 2.1 (3.0-7.0)

Sample 4 0.5 (1.0-3.0)

Total daily cortisol 6.7 (21-41)

DHEA

am 0.31 in range

pm 0.16 Low

A) You need HC. Period. NO amount of adaptogens or glandulars is going to help

you. From your thyroid labs you were not hyperthyroid you had an adrenal crash.

T4 takes weeks to go down in your system so stopping 24 hours before this test

would not have dropped it that much. I woudl say you were nto utilizing the

natural thyroid well for a long time and making RT3 and eventually it crashed

your adernals as they were probably too low to handle it to begin with. Please

join the adrenals group oin my signature line where we can help you better and

pst thes elabs there.

DHEA: Cortisol Ratio 3.51

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http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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Hi Lethal Lee,

Thanks for your reply

I am going to post on the adrenal forum as has suggested. I'll put the

other results for any tests I have on there.

Judy

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I changed to Natural thyroid a year ago after taking Levothyroxine for 15

years and I was doing well. Then about a month ago I became hyperthyroid, it

took me a while to realise this was the problem so I stopped taking NDT for a

week but since then haven't been able to tolerate taking it again. So now I am

back with hypo symptoms. Could this be rT3?

> >

> > Last September I had a Adrenal Stress Profile (Genova) and as the results

indicated low adrenal function I had my GP refer me to Endo as I wanted a

diagnosis from the NHS. From the synachten test he said my Adrenals were fine

(no surprise there then) so now I have to decide what to do next.

> >

> > I have been supporting my adrenals by taking Co Q10, Ginkgo Bilbao, Vitamin

C and Vitamin D3 ( D3 low on NHS test). I can't tolerate Nutri adrenal extra or

Isocort so I have just order Thorne Adrenal Cortex to try.

> >

> > Adrenal Stress Profile

> > Sample 1 2.6 (12-22)

> > Sample 2 1.5 (5.0-9.0)

> > Sample 3 2.1 (3.0-7.0)

> > Sample 4 0.5 (1.0-3.0)

> >

> > Total daily cortisol 6.7 (21-41)

> >

> > DHEA

> > am 0.31 in range

> > pm 0.16 Low

> >

> > DHEA: Cortisol Ratio 3.51

> >

> > Thyroid blood test when hyper symptoms but stoppped NDT for 24 hours

> > TSH 0.04 (0.10-4.00 )

> > Free T4 12.1 (11.00-22.00)

> > No FreeT3 even though asked for

> >

> > Also Blood pressure is up and if it doesn't come down soon my GP wants to

treat it but I am reluctant to take medication. Blood pressure reading drops on

standing by 10.

> >

> > Basal Temps 36.4 and pulse 74 since stopping NDT. I keep forgetting to do

temps through the day.

> >

> > I know I need to

> > 1.Get back on thyroid medication and have been taking a little T3 around

20mcg.

> > 2.Address the poor adrenal function

> > 3.Lower Blood pressure and high cholesterol.

> >

> > I just not sure what to do next? Will the Adrenal cortex supplement be

enough or do I need to consider HC. If it could be rT3 should I start with

sorting that first.

> >

> > I feel so ill and as my daughter is very ill ME/CFS with adrenal/ thyroid

issues I want to be as well as I can. Any advice would be great.

> >

> > Judy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Lethal Lee,

Thanks for your reply

I am going to post on the adrenal forum as has suggested. I'll put the

other results for any tests I have on there.

Judy

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I changed to Natural thyroid a year ago after taking Levothyroxine for 15

years and I was doing well. Then about a month ago I became hyperthyroid, it

took me a while to realise this was the problem so I stopped taking NDT for a

week but since then haven't been able to tolerate taking it again. So now I am

back with hypo symptoms. Could this be rT3?

> >

> > Last September I had a Adrenal Stress Profile (Genova) and as the results

indicated low adrenal function I had my GP refer me to Endo as I wanted a

diagnosis from the NHS. From the synachten test he said my Adrenals were fine

(no surprise there then) so now I have to decide what to do next.

> >

> > I have been supporting my adrenals by taking Co Q10, Ginkgo Bilbao, Vitamin

C and Vitamin D3 ( D3 low on NHS test). I can't tolerate Nutri adrenal extra or

Isocort so I have just order Thorne Adrenal Cortex to try.

> >

> > Adrenal Stress Profile

> > Sample 1 2.6 (12-22)

> > Sample 2 1.5 (5.0-9.0)

> > Sample 3 2.1 (3.0-7.0)

> > Sample 4 0.5 (1.0-3.0)

> >

> > Total daily cortisol 6.7 (21-41)

> >

> > DHEA

> > am 0.31 in range

> > pm 0.16 Low

> >

> > DHEA: Cortisol Ratio 3.51

> >

> > Thyroid blood test when hyper symptoms but stoppped NDT for 24 hours

> > TSH 0.04 (0.10-4.00 )

> > Free T4 12.1 (11.00-22.00)

> > No FreeT3 even though asked for

> >

> > Also Blood pressure is up and if it doesn't come down soon my GP wants to

treat it but I am reluctant to take medication. Blood pressure reading drops on

standing by 10.

> >

> > Basal Temps 36.4 and pulse 74 since stopping NDT. I keep forgetting to do

temps through the day.

> >

> > I know I need to

> > 1.Get back on thyroid medication and have been taking a little T3 around

20mcg.

> > 2.Address the poor adrenal function

> > 3.Lower Blood pressure and high cholesterol.

> >

> > I just not sure what to do next? Will the Adrenal cortex supplement be

enough or do I need to consider HC. If it could be rT3 should I start with

sorting that first.

> >

> > I feel so ill and as my daughter is very ill ME/CFS with adrenal/ thyroid

issues I want to be as well as I can. Any advice would be great.

> >

> > Judy

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I do wonder how bad a Saliva test has to be before it shows on a Synacthen test.

Synacthen Stimulation Test

Time Cortisol

0 326

30 806

60 934

An adequate response to 250ug synacthen is a cortisol increase of greater then

200 nmol/l, to a peak value of at least 570 nmol/l

Result consistent with adequate response to ACTH

Sodium 138 (133-146)

potassium 4.3 (3.5-5.3)

Calcium Not Tested

magnesium Not Tested

Ever tested Aldosterone & renin?

No, can I ask my NHS GP to test for these. It seems they will test everything I

don't want over and over and not what I do ask for.

Judy

> > Adrenal Stress Profile

> > Sample 1 2.6 (12-22)

> > Sample 2 1.5 (5.0-9.0)

> > Sample 3 2.1 (3.0-7.0)

> > Sample 4 0.5 (1.0-3.0)

> >

> > Total daily cortisol 6.7 (21-41)

> >

> > DHEA

> > am 0.31 in range

> > pm 0.16 Low

> >

> > DHEA: Cortisol Ratio 3.51

> >

> > Thyroid blood test when hyper symptoms but stoppped NDT for 24 hours

> > TSH 0.04 (0.10-4.00 )

> > Free T4 12.1 (11.00-22.00)

> > No FreeT3 even though asked for

> >