raw meat (was: Is pasteurized milk really bad?)

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On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 07:07:47 -0000 " biophile410 " <biophile410@...>

writes:

Yesterday I ate a buffalo patty from trader joe's -- raw. I had two

defrosting

on the counter and my sig. other had to leave before dinnertime. The

packaging said all natural, no horomones, etc., and I speculated buffalo

would be grown on the range (or is it just the song?). So I thought, ok,

this

is my chance to taste a little piece raw. Well it tasted so good I'll be

damned

if I didn't put my whole patty in a bowl, then salted it, and ate it raw!

It was

so yummy the idea of putting it in a pan and cooking it seemed

ridiculous.

I've never liked raw veggies, but raw meat tasted like it was meant to be

that

way. I so wish there were studies on this as I feel somewhat freakish

eating

raw meat. I fibbed and acted like I had cooked it when my SO came home.

ME: Glad to see you jumped in and gave it a try :-)))))

If you want to see the results of eating lots of raw meat, read the Guts

and Grease article at the WAP website. What you did is *tame* compared to

what those folks ate!

Bianca

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> ME: Glad to see you jumped in and gave it a try :-)))))

> If you want to see the results of eating lots of raw meat, read the

Guts

> and Grease article at the WAP website. What you did is *tame*

compared to

> what those folks ate!

That was a very cool article - probably my favorite of those types.

Speaking as someone who found out about WAP by reading about sports

nutrition, it really drove home the reality of how the Indians were

considered to be physically superior to the white man. I'll bet that

somewhere down the road most athletes will eat that way (with the

addition of fermented diary, of course)

Alas, those foods are either unavailable or too strong for my palate :

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[Guest guest]

> ME: Glad to see you jumped in and gave it a try :-)))))

> If you want to see the results of eating lots of raw meat, read the

Guts

> and Grease article at the WAP website. What you did is *tame*

compared to

> what those folks ate!

>

> Bianca

>

Maybe I didn't read it right, but I didn't notice that people

described in the article ate lots of raw meat. I've seen many

mentions of types of preparation of food that involved heat.

Roman

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On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 06:00:43 -0000 " r_rom " <r_rom@...> writes:

> ME: Glad to see you jumped in and gave it a try :-)))))

> If you want to see the results of eating lots of raw meat, read the

Guts

> and Grease article at the WAP website. What you did is *tame*

compared to

> what those folks ate!

>

> Bianca

>

Maybe I didn't read it right, but I didn't notice that people

described in the article ate lots of raw meat. I've seen many

mentions of types of preparation of food that involved heat.

Roman

>>>>>>>>>>>Here are some relevant portions. I've starred that which

applies.

Bianca

Beverly Hungry Wolf describes the preparation and consumption of a cow in

The Ways of My Grandmothers,14 noting that her grandmother prepared the

cow “as she had learned to prepare buffalo when she was young.” The large

pieces of fat from the back and cavity were removed and rendered. The

lean meat was cut into strips and *dried* or roasted, pounded up with

berries and mixed with fat to make pemmican. Most of the ribs were smoked

and stored for later use.

*All the excess fat inside the body was hung up so the moisture would dry

out of it*, recalls Beverly Hungry Wolf. It was later served with *dried*

meat. Some fats in the animal were rendered into “lard” instead of dried.

All the insides, such as heart, kidneys and liver, were prepared and

eaten, roasted or baked or *laid out in the sun to dry*. *The lungs were

not cooked, just sliced and hung up to dry*. *Intestines were also

dried*. Sapotsis or Crow gut is a Blackfoot delicacy made from the main

intestine which is stuffed with meat and roasted over coals. *Tripe was

prepared and eaten raw* or boiled or roasted. *The brains were eaten

raw.* If the animal was a female, they would prepare the teats or udders

by boiling or barbecuing—these were never eaten raw. If the animal

carried an unborn young, this was fed to the older people because it was

so tender. The guts of the unborn would be taken out and braided, then

boiled too. The tongue was always boiled if it wasn’t *dried.* “Even old

animals have tender tongues,” she recalls.

<snip>

*The second stomach was washed well and eaten raw*, but certain parts

were usually boiled or roasted and the rest *dried*. <snip>

According to (Fire) Lame Deer, the eating of guts had evolved into a

contest. *“In the old days we used to eat the guts of the buffalo, making

a contest of it, two fellows getting hold of a long piece of intestines

from opposite ends, starting chewing toward the middle, seeing who can

get there first; that’s eating. Those buffalo guts, full of

half-fermented, half-digested grass and herbs, you didn’t need any pills

and vitamins when you swallowed those.”*

*The marrow was full of fat and was usually eaten raw*.