Re: Butter Oil/ Our friend the Sun

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Ramit-

>As far as the comment about needing docile, lazy mothers (eeeew), I have a

>hard time imagining that in societies where all people's labor is utilized

>(be they the " primitive " or agricultural societies of old or ones today

>where many women choose to return to their jobs immediately),

I expect this is just yet another case of people taking the modern

condition for the natural condition. As things become more and more

deformed, it gets harder and harder to figure out how things used to be and

how they should be. One obvious example is beef: as cows are raised in

more and more toxic conditions, it gets easier and easier to " determine "

that beef is unhealthy.

Tanning may be a similar issue. I doubt it's ever been a good idea to turn

deep brown -- people have always gotten leathery from that -- and with the

thinning ozone layer even the necessary amount of exposure may now be too

dangerous, but the changing lipid profile of people's diets has in all

probability profoundly influenced skin cancer rates and the safety of sun

exposure.

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>Tanning may be a similar issue. I doubt it's ever been a good idea to turn

>deep brown -- people have always gotten leathery from that -- and with the

>thinning ozone layer even the necessary amount of exposure may now be too

>dangerous, but the changing lipid profile of people's diets has in all

>probability profoundly influenced skin cancer rates and the safety of sun

>exposure.

D'oh! And here I was thinking I could finally look all healthy and tanned!

Guess it's time for a cost-benefit analysis: sickly pale now and

wrinkle-free in 30 years, or healthy golden now and leathery in 30 years.

Eeek!

Ramit

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>>>D'oh! And here I was thinking I could finally look all healthy and

tanned!

Guess it's time for a cost-benefit analysis: sickly pale now and

wrinkle-free in 30 years, or healthy golden now and leathery in 30 years.

Eeek!

>>>>Eat foods rich in carotenoids or take mixed carotenoid supplements and

you will not only have more color but get healthy doing it and you won't be

leathery in 30 years. But *mixed* carotenoids is important - don't ever

supplement with a single one, such as beta carotene.

I'm not really pale naturally although my heritage is German, ish and

Dutch, and I haven't sunned much since I was in my teens. I'll be 39 next

month. A few days ago I got carded when buying beer The smallest,

stupidest things make you so happy when you're nearly 39 <g>.

Moral of the story: none that I can think of. LOL

Suze Fisher

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> >>>>Eat foods rich in carotenoids or take mixed carotenoid

supplements and

> you will not only have more color but get healthy doing it and you

won't be

> leathery in 30 years. But *mixed* carotenoids is important - don't

ever

> supplement with a single one, such as beta carotene.

>

Speaking of this, I've been eating lots of fresh organic carrots

lately and my skin is getting a nice orange color! This has happened

to me in the past while drinking a glass of carrot juice per day for

a little while. While I don't really enjoy looking slightly orange,

is this a bad thing? or a sign that my body isn't handling it well?

Becky

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At 06:22 PM 3/26/02 -0500, you wrote:

>

>>Tanning may be a similar issue.  I doubt it's ever been a good idea to turn

>>deep brown -- people have always gotten leathery from that -- and with the

>>thinning ozone layer even the necessary amount of exposure may now be too

>>dangerous, but the changing lipid profile of people's diets has in all

>>probability profoundly influenced skin cancer rates and the safety of sun

>>exposure.

>

As a teen I never burned and spent 8 hours a day picking cucumbers under the

summer sun. I burned after we no longer rendered our own fat and have since.

Will see this summer now that I have saturated fat back in my diet. My few

wrinkles at 45 are already lessening. Staying out of the sun is not living to

me.

Wanita

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>>>Speaking of this, I've been eating lots of fresh organic carrots

lately and my skin is getting a nice orange color! This has happened

to me in the past while drinking a glass of carrot juice per day for

a little while. While I don't really enjoy looking slightly orange,

is this a bad thing? or a sign that my body isn't handling it well?

***Becky,

My mom used to joke that 7th Day Adventists are yellow. Maybe it's just the

one's in our town. We attended some cooking classes at the seventh day

adventist church when I was a teenager and I think there were lots of

carrots or other carotenoid-rich foods in the recipes. And the Adventists

were indeed yellow. I also recall one md who routinely takes a lot of beta

carotene wrote in some book or other I read a while back that he regulated

how much beta carotene he took by his patients' comments. If a few patients

in a row mentioned how orange he was, he'd cut back for a while.

The orange color in your skin simply means the carotenoids are being stored

in your tissue. And that which makes your tissue orange is not being

converted to retinol, I assume. Which is not necessarily a bad thing, as

your body will convert what it needs, when it needs it, or so I've read. But

I think the study may have been on a different species, so I'm not sure

about human conversion. I don't think it's harmful as long as you don't

consume one isolated carotenoid instead of a variety of them. However, I'm

no expert and perhaps someone else more experienced in food pigments can

chime in.

Suze Fisher

Web Design & Development

http://www.suscom-maine.net/~cfisher/

mailto:s.fisher22@...

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The palms of my hands are *still* orange from a few years back when I used

to eat a whole 1 pound bag of baby carrots daily (I loved the,. but stopped

when I realized how orange I was). I also used to adore tomatoes (don't eat

them often anymore). So anyway, *years* later, I am still orange in hands

and feet, though nowhere else!

As far as the differences in terms of eating sat. fats or not, I'd like to

believe that that is so. I have decided that the sun is my friend and that

if I get wrinkled 30 years from now, so be it. The leather people I know

like to fall asleep in the sun with tons of grease on them, and no matter

how hard I try, I wouldn't even be able to get 1/10 of the sun they

get! If I turn into one, by then there should be some cool laser treatment

to erase it all away- hahahaha!

Ramit

Who got 5 more compliments on the tan today!

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Hi Everyone,

I work out side all day in the summer. Before I started a high protein/fat diet

a few years ago I burnt a couple of times at the beginning of each

summer/Spring. Since starting the high fat diet I no longer burn at all and as

I said I am outside in the sun all day and all week. 54 years old and no

wrinkles yet.

Larry

----- Original Message -----

From: Wanita Sears

Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:40 PM

Subject: Re: Butter Oil/ Our friend the Sun

At 06:22 PM 3/26/02 -0500, you wrote:

>

>>Tanning may be a similar issue. I doubt it's ever been a good idea to turn

>>deep brown -- people have always gotten leathery from that -- and with the

>>thinning ozone layer even the necessary amount of exposure may now be too

>>dangerous, but the changing lipid profile of people's diets has in all

>>probability profoundly influenced skin cancer rates and the safety of sun

>>exposure.

>

As a teen I never burned and spent 8 hours a day picking cucumbers under the

summer sun. I burned after we no longer rendered our own fat and have since.

Will see this summer now that I have saturated fat back in my diet. My few

wrinkles at 45 are already lessening. Staying out of the sun is not living to

me.

Wanita