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And also becasue of the liver disease, many people's platelet's are low,

that rules your blood clotting factor, and that can cause excessive bruising

and bleeding also! Lori C. AIH liver tx 3~11~97

Re: [ ] Bruising

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>Another cause of bruising is Vitamin K deficiency. This usually occurs in

>malabsorption problems such as celiac.

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My pharmacist told me cant buy otc Vit K, must have a prescription. I wonder

why that is.

When they make a sugar free viactiv, then maybe we diabetics can take it!

J

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>When I saw my Internist Friday I mentioned that I was having difficulty

>remembering to take my mid-day 500 mgs. of Calcium. He suggested that

>instead of taking Calcium with Vitamin D (I'm currently taking 1500 mgs. of

>Calcium and 600 i.u. of Vit. D daily) I might want to change to something

>new called " Viactiv " .

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>Viactiv, believe it or not, tastes good! It's a foil wrapped kind of soft

>caramel that comes in different flavors. I bought something called

> " Moccahino " . Kind of like eating a chocolate-mocha flavored caramel. No

>medicinal taste at all. It's an OTC product put out by Mead

>Nutritionals and 60 " chews " cost me under $7.00 at Walmart. Each one

>contains 500 mg. of Calcium, 100 i.u. of Vit. D and 40 mcg. of Vitamin K.

>The website for Mead is www.viactiv.com.

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>The nutritionist I saw at Scripps told me to take Vitamin K but our local

>pharmacies said you can't buy it OTC. Is that correct, do you know? I

>remember when I was having babies my doctor used to always give me

>supplemental Vitamin K because I was so skinny and probably anemic back in

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When I saw my Internist Friday I mentioned that I was having difficulty

remembering to take my mid-day 500 mgs. of Calcium. He suggested that

instead of taking Calcium with Vitamin D (I'm currently taking 1500 mgs. of

Calcium and 600 i.u. of Vit. D daily) I might want to change to something

new called " Viactiv " .

Viactiv, believe it or not, tastes good! It's a foil wrapped kind of soft

caramel that comes in different flavors. I bought something called

" Moccahino " . Kind of like eating a chocolate-mocha flavored caramel. No

medicinal taste at all. It's an OTC product put out by Mead

Nutritionals and 60 " chews " cost me under $7.00 at Walmart. Each one

contains 500 mg. of Calcium, 100 i.u. of Vit. D and 40 mcg. of Vitamin K.

The website for Mead is www.viactiv.com.

The nutritionist I saw at Scripps told me to take Vitamin K but our local

pharmacies said you can't buy it OTC. Is that correct, do you know? I

remember when I was having babies my doctor used to always give me

supplemental Vitamin K because I was so skinny and probably anemic back in

those days.

Take care,

Geri

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I noticed the sugar and sodium content in Viactiv. Also, the calories.

Wonder why they don't make a sugar-free version? Maybe they will soon.

It's certainly nicer than those huge calcium tabs.

Take care,

Geri

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Thanks Sharon,

I've read (and always do) everything on all my prescriptions. This bruising

problem started way before I started taking the antidepressants. But the

Hematologist I saw was concerned at first, but did all kinds of blood tests,

and is also not worried. But thanks for the heads up, I will definitely

discuss it with my doctor again.

Vicki

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>Vicki, I know your dr. is not concerned but I am! When Christie was on

>Prozac along with the abx her vitamin K level became reallly, really low

and

>she was bruising all over. The dr. said it was the antidepressant. Read

>the sheet on your antidepressent and see what it says about clotting. Her

>concern was if Christie had an accident she could hemorrage. Just a heads

>up for you.

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According to a doctor's website I just browsed, bruising can be a

symptom of leukemia, or it may simply be caused by taking too much

aspirin, ibuprofen, or nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs).

Also, there are herbs that can help enhance the integrity of the

blood vessels. I believe they would include butcher's broom.

I have fibromyalgia and I used to bruise easily and not heal well

from cuts.

Don't let her ignore this symptom; try to improve it.

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First of all, Barbara and I thank you all for your input.

Second, I don't think this has anything to do with leukemia, since she has

greatly improved in every way except this one.

I think that the symptom can now be explained.

Barbara regularly takes a lot of ibuprofen, motrin, whatever.

Vitamin C and things like Quercetin can greatly help capillary wall

strength, but Barb recently has been feeling so good since her environmental

sensitivity allergies have died down she stopped taking these every day. So

this has probably always been a problem, but the VitC and Quercetin taken

for other reasons fixed that too.

She'll probably have to start taking Vitamin C and Quercetin a little more

often again.

We will look into Butcher's Broom. Barb has Fibro too.

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>According to a doctor's website I just browsed, bruising can be a

>symptom of leukemia, or it may simply be caused by taking too much

>aspirin, ibuprofen, or nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs).

>

>Also, there are herbs that can help enhance the integrity of the

>blood vessels. I believe they would include butcher's broom.

>

>I have fibromyalgia and I used to bruise easily and not heal well

>from cuts.

>Don't let her ignore this symptom; try to improve it.

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Hi Faye,

Yes, I have problems with bruising. I look and wham there is another bruise.

I asked the lyme guy cause I showed him all the bruises and he said it was

from the babesia. Who knows if that is true or not. KIM

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In a message dated 10/15/00 8:18:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Burfnturf@... writes:

<< Do any of y'all have any problems with bruising?

Faye

>>

Yup, My legs are often covered with bruises. I don't even remember where

these bruises came from most of the time.. that is how fragile the blood

vessels are.

elizabeth

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Faye,

Seems most of the bruising is on my legs; calfs and thighs. I do get bruises

on my arms too, but the ones on my legs are always bad. I say I was hurt

playing contact sports! That shuts people up when they ask. Anyway Elizbeth

said it was caused by the blood vessels weakening, could be, I just know they

come out of nowhere and my LLMD said it was from the babesia. But then again

2 other infectious docs said there was no way I have babesia. Maybe i am

playing too many sports!!!! KIM

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I too have tons of bruises!!! Eileen

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> << Do any of y'all have any problems with bruising?

> Faye

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> Yup, My legs are often covered with bruises. I don't even remember where

> these bruises came from most of the time.. that is how fragile the blood

> vessels are.

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Kim, Faye, ,

I too get " the bruises " . I was told by Rickettsia expert that Rickettsiae

have an affinity for the lining of blood vessels hence the bruises

(ehrlichia is a cousin of Rickettsiae).

As for Babesia, Infectious Dis specialists only know the accute form of

Babesia, so I don't think you can take their word for it (that you don't

have it in another more chronic form, that is). In fact, i'd like to know

how to eliminate a Babesia dx for myself too. I had a neg serology but again

all my serologies are neg.

Nelly

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> Faye,

> Seems most of the bruising is on my legs; calfs and thighs. I do get

bruises

> on my arms too, but the ones on my legs are always bad. I say I was hurt

> playing contact sports! That shuts people up when they ask. Anyway

Elizbeth

> said it was caused by the blood vessels weakening, could be, I just know

they

> come out of nowhere and my LLMD said it was from the babesia. But then

again

> 2 other infectious docs said there was no way I have babesia. Maybe i am

> playing too many sports!!!! KIM

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yep get lots of bruises and lumps i have also had celulitis oh i have had

lots..prolapsed rectum..now ad colitis...does it ever stop??? 2 years later

cindy in mich

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Could you please further explain " We do Oils " , I'm curious. Thanks

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>Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:52:02 -0700

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>Some people bruise easily because the capillary walls are weak and

>break easily, particularly in the skin. Those who bruise easily may

>be deficient in Vitamin C.

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Hi Bill,

We do oils refers to essential oils (100% therapeutic grade A). They

have tons of documented research to back it all up (mainly in

Europe/Egypt, etc.) They are just starting to be rediscovered in

North America, but with the drug companies having such a strong hold

it is very slow in coming out. There is lots of research being done

in North America right now and will eventually be published here.

Here is a little bit more on them:

Worldwide research of pure, unadulterated essential oils show:

Essential oils are made up of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen; are

balancing to the human body (unlike synthetic drugs); and are

powerful antioxidants.

To date, no tested virus, bacteria, or fungus can survive in the

essential oils of cinnamon or oregano, including the deadly ebola

virus (Lapraz, et al).

Essential oils are alkalizing - delivering oxygen, hormones, enzymes,

and nutrients to body cells. Oils high in sesquiterpenes pass the

blood-brain barrier: may help Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, MS, and Lou

Gehrig's disease.

Due to their complete compatibility with the human mind and body,

many hospitals across Europe are using essential oils. Currently

there are over 150 hospitals in England alone using essential oils.

Less than 2% of the oils on the market today are therapeutic grade.

Only therapeutic grade essential oils deliver health benefits. If it

isn't labeled " Grade A Therapeutic " , you know you are not getting the

quality you deserve.

" These essential oils truly represent the new frontier of medicine;

they have resolved cases that many professionals had regarded as

hopeless. " - Dr. Terry Friedmann, MD

If you want to know any more just let me know. I used to believe the

oils worked but now I know they do because of what I have seen

personally and with family and friends (from hep-c to cancer, to

heartburn, headaches, boils, extreme stomach pains, colitis, and the

list goes on and on.)

WE DON'T DO PHARMACEUTICAL DRUGS - WE DO OILS (ESSENTIAL

THAT IS)!

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Can you send me any literature about these oils? Of course I am skeptical, I'd need to do more homework before thinking about experimenting. Thanks. If you can mail me literature let me know and I'll email you privately me address. Thanks again.>>> dobie@... 09/23/01 08:56PM >>> Hi Bill, We do oils refers to essential oils (100% therapeutic grade A). They have tons of documented research to back it all up (mainly in Europe/Egypt, etc.) They are just starting to be rediscovered in North America, but with the drug companies having such a strong hold it is very slow in coming out. There is lots of research being done in North America right now and will eventually be published here. Here is a little bit more on them: Worldwide research of pure, unadulterated essential oils show: Essential oils are made up of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen; are balancing to the human body (unlike synthetic drugs); and are powerful antioxidants. To date, no tested virus, bacteria, or fungus can survive in the essential oils of cinnamon or oregano, including the deadly ebola virus (Lapraz, et al). Essential oils are alkalizing - delivering oxygen, hormones, enzymes, and nutrients to body cells. Oils high in sesquiterpenes pass the blood-brain barrier: may help Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, MS, and Lou Gehrig's disease. Due to their complete compatibility with the human mind and body, many hospitals across Europe are using essential oils. Currently there are over 150 hospitals in England alone using essential oils. Less than 2% of the oils on the market today are therapeutic grade. Only therapeutic grade essential oils deliver health benefits. If it isn't labeled "Grade A Therapeutic", you know you are not getting the quality you deserve. "These essential oils truly represent the new frontier of medicine; they have resolved cases that many professionals had regarded as hopeless." - Dr. Terry Friedmann, MD If you want to know any more just let me know. I used to believe the oils worked but now I know they do because of what I have seen personally and with family and friends (from hep-c to cancer, to heartburn, headaches, boils, extreme stomach pains, colitis, and the list goes on and on.) WE DON'T DO PHARMACEUTICAL DRUGS - WE DO OILS (ESSENTIAL THAT IS)! ______________________________________________ Get your FREE SkyBiz.com email at www.skybizworld.com !

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Ive only taken 2 shots so far of Peg. and no

brusing at the site. I have heard that many do have some

localized brusing from the shot. Try alternating sites. I

used to have to take Insulin and when a site area was

sore.. I would use a cold pack after the shot. That

seemed to help.<br>

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Ive only taken 2 shots so far of Peg. and no

brusing at the site. I have heard that many do have some

localized brusing from the shot. Try alternating sites. I

used to have to take Insulin and when a site area was

sore.. I would use a cold pack after the shot. That

seemed to help.<br>

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Jack, I haven't taken peg but big red spots which

sometimes turned to bruises happened quite often at shot

site with combo treatment.<br> It took a year to get

myself straightened out after going off treatment.I must

agree that the going off the treatments can be almost

worse than the treatment.

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Jack, I haven't taken peg but big red spots which

sometimes turned to bruises happened quite often at shot

site with combo treatment.<br> It took a year to get

myself straightened out after going off treatment.I must

agree that the going off the treatments can be almost

worse than the treatment.

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