Guest guest Posted February 1, 2000 Report Share Posted February 1, 2000 Dr H. Philpott 405-390-3009 You might want to contact Dr Philpott or read his book 'Cancer - The Magnetic/Oxygen Answer' [ ] magnet therapy > From: a <ppsimmons@...> > > Hello again, thank you for responding to my request for information and > treatments of adenoid cystic cancer for my husband. We've started some of > the suggestions you've given already. Does anyone have any information about > magnet therapy? Does it work for cancer? My husband has used magnets on his > shoulder and it takes care of the pain, and we were wondering if it could > also help the actual cancer. I've done a little reading on the internet and > one site claimed that it reverses tumor growth. Is this true? I don't know > how they work, but it seemed to make 's shoulder pain go away. > Thank you very much, > a > > ----------------------------------------------- > FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com > Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com > > > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 22, 2001 Report Share Posted May 22, 2001 Dear Vilik, Very interesting. For my money, I will stay with north pole facing the water. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH Magnet Therapy > > MAGNET THERAPY: The Gentle And Effective Way to Balance Body > Systems > > By Ghanshyam Singh Birla and Colette Helm > > ISBN 0-89281-841-7 > > > Very good book or so it seems to me. > > Whole chapter on magnetized water, including pictures of plants > watered with different waters. > > The plant watered with north magnetized water " long thin plant, > sparse foliage. " > > Control plant...average. > > South water... " short, dense, many roots, abundant foliage. > > > The north-watered plant looks pretty sad. The south-watered > plant is a little short but other than that is vibrant... > roots twice as deep as average plant. > > The book recommends drinking a mixture of north and south > magnetized waters. > > > Therapeutic properties of the two poles. > > North: Sedative, sooths nerve pain, reduces inflammations, > stimulates healing process, controns infection, stops > tumor growth, slows growth and maturation process, > slows metabolism, slows cellular activity, alkaline, > stops bleeding, etc. > > South: Excites, increases activity, sooths muscle pain by > producing heat, stimulates infection, stimulates ALL life > forms, including germs and bacteria, stimulates tumors, > stimulates growth and matuation, stimulates cellular activity, > increase energy, increased acidity, increase bleeding, etc. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 One thing to remember... MANY people, when writing books or talking about magnetic therapy, get the poles confused. I remember reading a bokk that had an entire chapter devoted to this issue. Many people call the 'North-SEEKING' pole the SOUTH pole, while others call it the north pole. I would bet that this is what is causing the confusion here. > Magnet Therapy > > > MAGNET THERAPY: The Gentle And Effective Way to Balance Body > Systems > > By Ghanshyam Singh Birla and Colette Helm > > ISBN 0-89281-841-7 > > > Very good book or so it seems to me. > > Whole chapter on magnetized water, including pictures of plants > watered with different waters. > > The plant watered with north magnetized water " long thin plant, > sparse foliage. " > > Control plant...average. > > South water... " short, dense, many roots, abundant foliage. > > > The north-watered plant looks pretty sad. The south-watered > plant is a little short but other than that is vibrant... > roots twice as deep as average plant. > > The book recommends drinking a mixture of north and south > magnetized waters. > > > Therapeutic properties of the two poles. > > North: Sedative, sooths nerve pain, reduces inflammations, > stimulates healing process, controns infection, stops > tumor growth, slows growth and maturation process, > slows metabolism, slows cellular activity, alkaline, > stops bleeding, etc. > > South: Excites, increases activity, sooths muscle pain by > producing heat, stimulates infection, stimulates ALL life > forms, including germs and bacteria, stimulates tumors, > stimulates growth and matuation, stimulates cellular activity, > increase energy, increased acidity, increase bleeding, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 Dear Peggy, the small Nikken Magnets never worked for me, neither did the mattress pad, I used it on a 2 week trial. What I love and what does work is my carseat. I was never able to sit longer than 2 hours. Which made long distance driving really an ordeal, I tried the seat on my first trip to Orlando and back, 8 hours of driving, no pain. I have used it a lot since and like it. I am not selling any of it, am as confused as you are on magnet therapy :-)) just responding to the question. Christel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 I'd like to jump in on the magnet therapy discussion and ask a question. A Nikken rep has been showing me a huge array of magnets and recommending them for my myofascial pain. If I bought everything she's shown me (mattress pads, magnetic water filter, magnetic pillow, necklaces, an array of wraps, etc) I'd be unable to pay the mortgage. I did buy two small magnets which you attach to the body with double-sided tape. I've tried them on several different areas of pain over the past week with no results that I can tell. I know her response to this will be to recommend I buy something stronger (and therefore more expensive) because she says magnets really work. Does anyone have any experience using magnets for muscle pain? Thanks. Peggy ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 Hello Vilik, Saul, Guess it is a " Here we go again ! " situation. Not all Norths and Souths are the same. Industrial magnets, might / can / sometimes are labled differnt than health / therapeutic magnets. Some are call North seeking Magnets and are labled that because the they point to the north pole when hung from a string... so opposites attract..so they are really South pole magnets. And also other argue that the Geophysical North is not really magnetic North. Some label magnets with Red for active producing results and blue for Cooling slow down effects...then hang it from a string and see which way colors point and then you can make your own referecing orientation. Also magnets vary on shape and size and gauss rating for more wide and narrowing focus of magneting filed as well as depth penetrating effects. Some can have a supressive effect (know of individual who supressed arthritis symtoms...only later to have kidney problems). Also...know of individual who applied wrong end of magnet and increased infection... and practioner said reverse polarity and this cooled down inflamation. (both argued about who said what and who heard what...but...both agreed blue side of magnet helped decrease inflamation) mike slivinski On Tue, 22 May 2001 21:44:29 -0700 " Saul Pressman " <saul@...> writes: > Dear Vilik, > > Very interesting. > > For my money, I will stay with north pole facing the water. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH > > Magnet Therapy > > > > > > MAGNET THERAPY: The Gentle And Effective Way to Balance Body > > Systems > > > > By Ghanshyam Singh Birla and Colette Helm > > > > ISBN 0-89281-841-7 > > > > > > Very good book or so it seems to me. > > > > Whole chapter on magnetized water, including pictures of plants > > watered with different waters. > > > > The plant watered with north magnetized water " long thin plant, > > sparse foliage. " > > > > Control plant...average. > > > > South water... " short, dense, many roots, abundant foliage. > > > > > > The north-watered plant looks pretty sad. The south-watered > > plant is a little short but other than that is vibrant... > > roots twice as deep as average plant. > > > > The book recommends drinking a mixture of north and south > > magnetized waters. > > > > > > Therapeutic properties of the two poles. > > > > North: Sedative, sooths nerve pain, reduces inflammations, > > stimulates healing process, controns infection, stops > > tumor growth, slows growth and maturation process, > > slows metabolism, slows cellular activity, alkaline, > > stops bleeding, etc. > > > > South: Excites, increases activity, sooths muscle pain by > > producing heat, stimulates infection, stimulates ALL life > > forms, including germs and bacteria, stimulates tumors, > > stimulates growth and matuation, stimulates cellular activity, > > increase energy, increased acidity, increase bleeding, etc. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 Hi Vilik; My information and subsequent questions to magnetic therapists is the same as yours - while therapies on all animals use exclusively north-pole treatment, or rarely, first a brief south treatment, then finished always with north, plants respond better to south charged magnetic water. Since south stimulates, and stimulates pain, and north quiets, the stimulating effect is the one normally preferred for plants. That said, I give either charge to my plants, but usually north because that's what I have on hand, and they prefer it to non-charged water. ciao Duncan Crow --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 5/9/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 Dear Peggy, I have found magnets (north pole facing the body) to be very effective for tendonitis, but not muscle pain. Not sure why. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH Re: Magnet Therapy > I'd like to jump in on the magnet therapy discussion and ask a question. A Nikken rep has been showing me a huge array of magnets and recommending them for my myofascial pain. If I bought everything she's shown me (mattress pads, magnetic water filter, magnetic pillow, necklaces, an array of wraps, etc) I'd be unable to pay the mortgage. I did buy two small magnets which you attach to the body with double-sided tape. I've tried them on several different areas of pain over the past week with no results that I can tell. I know her response to this will be to recommend I buy something stronger (and therefore more expensive) because she says magnets really work. Does anyone have any experience using magnets for muscle pain? Thanks. > > Peggy > ----- > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 Dear , I am well aware of the problem. First of all there is no doubt that the geographical pole and the magnetic pole are not the same thing. The magnetic pole moves and is currently somewhere near Hudson's Bay. The magnets that I get from Tormag are marked with a green dot on the north side and a red dot on the south side. The poles are on the flat sides which makes them useful, as opposed to magnets with the poles at the ends, which are much harder to use. I always use the north pole (green dot) side. I have one on top of the 5 gallon water cooler jug at all times. They are 3500 gauss. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH Magnet Therapy > > > > > > > > > > MAGNET THERAPY: The Gentle And Effective Way to Balance Body > > > Systems > > > > > > By Ghanshyam Singh Birla and Colette Helm > > > > > > ISBN 0-89281-841-7 > > > > > > > > > Very good book or so it seems to me. > > > > > > Whole chapter on magnetized water, including pictures of plants > > > watered with different waters. > > > > > > The plant watered with north magnetized water " long thin plant, > > > sparse foliage. " > > > > > > Control plant...average. > > > > > > South water... " short, dense, many roots, abundant foliage. > > > > > > > > > The north-watered plant looks pretty sad. The south-watered > > > plant is a little short but other than that is vibrant... > > > roots twice as deep as average plant. > > > > > > The book recommends drinking a mixture of north and south > > > magnetized waters. > > > > > > > > > Therapeutic properties of the two poles. > > > > > > North: Sedative, sooths nerve pain, reduces inflammations, > > > stimulates healing process, controns infection, stops > > > tumor growth, slows growth and maturation process, > > > slows metabolism, slows cellular activity, alkaline, > > > stops bleeding, etc. > > > > > > South: Excites, increases activity, sooths muscle pain by > > > producing heat, stimulates infection, stimulates ALL life > > > forms, including germs and bacteria, stimulates tumors, > > > stimulates growth and matuation, stimulates cellular activity, > > > increase energy, increased acidity, increase bleeding, etc. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 YES! I have. They also help my circulation and help with detoxing, and as I have MCS (multiple chemical sensitivities) this is sooooo important to me. I am not signed up with Nikken and having nothing to personally gain by this testimony. I have their insteps in my shoes and both my kids and my self have the mattress pads and the comforters on our beds. I felt it was an investment in our health. I have 3 little magnets in a stretchy band which we put around our heads for headaches, our necks for sore throats, etc. I have a kit with all sizes of magnets in it and we use it for all sorts os things. My son was in a car wreck and has back problems. He swears by them and my daughter has a cliff diving injury and she loves them too. Pricey? Yes, but I've read and heard that some of the magnets out there have the capacity to reverse a persons polarity and that Nikken's don't when used properly. I've also used them on pets after injuries or surgery with great results. Once a bird flew into our window and fell to the ground. We thought it was gonna die because it just laid there forever. I ran in and got a thing called " magboy " (you can spin the magnets on it creating a larger range of field) and in a couple of minutes the bird flew away. I tried this because I had heard of it working before. I am not fond of their supplements though and would not take them, but the magnets, comforters, etc. I will never be without. I joined to buy what I needed and that was it. I had to put it all on a credit card and feel it was a wise investment. I do wish I had purchased their magnetic pads for pets though! There are books out on this type of therapy, you may want to read one and learn about the research that has been done. Tim and/or Peggy Walters wrote: > I'd like to jump in on the magnet therapy discussion and ask a question. A Nikken rep has been showing me a huge array of magnets and recommending them for my myofascial pain. If I bought everything she's shown me (mattress pads, magnetic water filter, magnetic pillow, necklaces, an array of wraps, etc) I'd be unable to pay the mortgage. I did buy two small magnets which you attach to the body with double-sided tape. I've tried them on several different areas of pain over the past week with no results that I can tell. I know her response to this will be to recommend I buy something stronger (and therefore more expensive) because she says magnets really work. Does anyone have any experience using magnets for muscle pain? Thanks. > > Peggy > ----- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 Hello Dr Saul, I suspect that maybe the north pole has a cooling effect on inflamation, for the muscle it might be good to use the south / red pole to speed up circulation and flushing out the toxins from the tissue in that area. I do know that on inflamation using the south pole / red really aggrivate the inflamed area. mike slivinski On Wed, 23 May 2001 08:11:01 -0700 " Saul Pressman " <saul@...> writes: > Dear Peggy, > > I have found magnets (north pole facing the body) to > be very effective for tendonitis, but not muscle pain. > Not sure why. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH > > Re: Magnet Therapy > > > > I'd like to jump in on the magnet therapy discussion and ask a > question. > A Nikken rep has been showing me a huge array of magnets and > recommending > them for my myofascial pain. If I bought everything she's shown me > (mattress pads, magnetic water filter, magnetic pillow, necklaces, > an array > of wraps, etc) I'd be unable to pay the mortgage. I did buy two > small > magnets which you attach to the body with double-sided tape. I've > tried > them on several different areas of pain over the past week with no > results > that I can tell. I know her response to this will be to recommend I > buy > something stronger (and therefore more expensive) because she says > magnets > really work. Does anyone have any experience using magnets for > muscle pain? > Thanks. > > > > Peggy > > ----- > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2001 Report Share Posted May 23, 2001 Hello All, I remember someone using a strong gauss magnet on the thumus, used the red / south pole to stimulate the gland and at the same time use another strong gauss magnet on a tumour to slow its growth. mike slivinski ps did ...actually had a friend do an expirement using rye seeds and sprouted then using power gause magnets and can't remember exact results but... one end sprouts were finer and other end..not as many but were stronger firmer. Not a bad experiment to repeat.... his third strofoam cup was the control away from the expirement... and all three showed contrast to the effects of magnetic fields.. o course the control just grew normally. mike slivinski On Wed, 23 May 2001 07:52:18 -0700 " Duncan Crow " <duncancrow@...> writes: > Hi Vilik; > > My information and subsequent questions to magnetic therapists is > the same > as yours - while therapies on all animals use exclusively north-pole > treatment, or rarely, first a brief south treatment, then finished > always > with north, plants respond better to south charged magnetic water. > > Since south stimulates, and stimulates pain, and north quiets, the > stimulating effect is the one normally preferred for plants. > > That said, I give either charge to my plants, but usually north > because > that's what I have on hand, and they prefer it to non-charged water. > > ciao > > Duncan Crow > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 5/9/01 > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, > and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find > here are for information and research purposes only. We are people > sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, > you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common > sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. > By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR > yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a > medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care > provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal > mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2001 Report Share Posted May 24, 2001 Dear Vilik, Dr. Philpott who did 40 years of research and treated many thousands of people successfully with magnet therapy is adamant that only the north pole be used. He has a number of books available. He sells them direct. You can get him at 405-390-3009 in Kansas. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH Magnet therapy > Dear friends, > > Well, lots of opinions. Some people like Saul and Jim use only > the north pole. Some people use different poles for different > conditions. Some use bipolar, but one article says bipolar > is harmful in the long run. > > Practically I have little experience. I used the Nikken pad > and pillow for about a month and felt more energy during the > day but " hyper " at night and so stopped. I have the innersoles > and never felt anything from them. Yet I know people who've > had the pads for years and swear by them. Personally I think > it's worth a try...most distributors will let you borrow a > set for sleeping, and if yours won't then find another one. > It does help some people very much. And I have heard other > good things about the carseat. > > I think I did throw my polarity out of wack " playing " with > magnets at one point, and I haven't wanted to experiment since. > I like this book, below, and it gives me a base from which > to explore. In a field with so many opinions as to the " right " > way to proceed I need some frame of reference, and I like this > one. > > Their theory, which seems based on experience, is that the different > poles have different functions. For treating an infection, for instance, > north would be appropriate. But for other conditions south is better. > However generally they recommend bipolar fields, which interesting > enough is also what Nikken uses for the most part in their products. > And Nikken has done a lot of research as I understand it. > > " We strongly recommend bipolar fields to reestablish metabolic and > energetic balance. The also have beneficial effects on acid/base > biochemical imbalances etc. We recommend the unipolar fields be > used in rare cases only, on small surfaces and for short periods. > Ideally unipolar treatment should be immediately followed by > a brief application of a bipolar field, in order to rebalance > energies. " > > But then again someone set an article saying bipolar fields are > harmful over the long run...so...who really knows... > > Apparently both worms and trees languish in north pole fields, > which is interesting. The book recommends doing your own experiments > with plants and not just accepting their opinion. Maybe plants > are totally different from people. If you've got worms internally > you certainly WANT them to languish. But it seems a tricky > call, because you could treat one condition and make another > worse unknowingly. > > The do explain why sleeping north/south is helpful...it makes > your own body a mild " battery " . > > I haven't tried the ideas and therefore can't " defend " them, but > it seems we've got a good discussion going. > > ~^^V^^~ > > > MAGNET THERAPY: The Gentle And Effective Way to Balance Body > > Systems > > > > By Ghanshyam Singh Birla and Colette Helm > > > > ISBN 0-89281-841-7 > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2001 Report Share Posted May 24, 2001 Hello All, Saul, Villik Mike Slivinski here, This info from : http://www.mineralconnection.com/magnets.htm And also discusses / makes mention of researchers such as H. Philpott, M.D., J. Washnis with Z. Hricak, O. Becker, M.D., Albert Roy and Walter C. Rawls, Jr. and Kyoichi Nakagawa of Japan are learning more and more about the effects of magnets on the human body. North vs. South The North wins again! Just a few years ago it was believed that there was basically no difference between North and South Pole energy and either side of a magnet was considered useful for any health problem you might encounter. However, research now reveals there is a definite difference between the two opposing forces. North Pole Energy (also called Negative energy) contains electrons which spin left (counterclockwise) while South Pole Energy (also called Positive Energy) has electrons which spin right. Interestingly, for the body, negative energy's effect is positive and positive energy's effect is sometimes negative. Thus, when you go somewhere to buy a magnet, don't buy a bipole magnet which has both North and South Pole energy on the same side or a horseshoe magnet which does something very similar. Also, realize that different fields of magnetic use have different ways of labeling North or South poles. Since North and South Pole energy are attracted to each other, it is quite simple to determine which is which. When you wish to identify North Pole, you need either, 1) a compass with its north seeking needle or, 2) suspend a unipole magnet from a string. This works because the earth itself is a huge magnet with both a North Pole and a South Pole. The South pole of the magnet will always face North no matter how many times it spins because it is North seeking. Since like repels like, you can also use a correctly marked North Pole magnet. . On Thu, 24 May 2001 12:32:34 -0700 " Saul Pressman " <saul@...> writes: > Dear Vilik, > > Dr. Philpott who did 40 years of research and treated > many thousands of people successfully with magnet > therapy is adamant that only the north pole be used. > > He has a number of books available. He sells them direct. > You can get him at 405-390-3009 in Kansas. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH > Magnet therapy > > > > Dear friends, > > > > Well, lots of opinions. Some people like Saul and Jim use only > > the north pole. Some people use different poles for different > > conditions. Some use bipolar, but one article says bipolar > > is harmful in the long run. > > > > Practically I have little experience. I used the Nikken pad > > and pillow for about a month and felt more energy during the > > day but " hyper " at night and so stopped. I have the innersoles > > and never felt anything from them. Yet I know people who've > > had the pads for years and swear by them. Personally I think > > it's worth a try...most distributors will let you borrow a > > set for sleeping, and if yours won't then find another one. > > It does help some people very much. And I have heard other > > good things about the carseat. > > > > I think I did throw my polarity out of wack " playing " with > > magnets at one point, and I haven't wanted to experiment since. > > I like this book, below, and it gives me a base from which > > to explore. In a field with so many opinions as to the " right " > > way to proceed I need some frame of reference, and I like this > > one. > > > > Their theory, which seems based on experience, is that the > different > > poles have different functions. For treating an infection, for > instance, > > north would be appropriate. But for other conditions south is > better. > > However generally they recommend bipolar fields, which interesting > > enough is also what Nikken uses for the most part in their > products. > > And Nikken has done a lot of research as I understand it. > > > > " We strongly recommend bipolar fields to reestablish metabolic and > > energetic balance. The also have beneficial effects on acid/base > > biochemical imbalances etc. We recommend the unipolar fields be > > used in rare cases only, on small surfaces and for short periods. > > Ideally unipolar treatment should be immediately followed by > > a brief application of a bipolar field, in order to rebalance > > energies. " > > > > But then again someone set an article saying bipolar fields are > > harmful over the long run...so...who really knows... > > > > Apparently both worms and trees languish in north pole fields, > > which is interesting. The book recommends doing your own > experiments > > with plants and not just accepting their opinion. Maybe plants > > are totally different from people. If you've got worms internally > > you certainly WANT them to languish. But it seems a tricky > > call, because you could treat one condition and make another > > worse unknowingly. > > > > The do explain why sleeping north/south is helpful...it makes > > your own body a mild " battery " . > > > > I haven't tried the ideas and therefore can't " defend " them, but > > it seems we've got a good discussion going. > > > > ~^^V^^~ > > > > > MAGNET THERAPY: The Gentle And Effective Way to Balance Body > > > Systems > > > > > > By Ghanshyam Singh Birla and Colette Helm > > > > > > ISBN 0-89281-841-7 > > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, > and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find > here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people > sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so > at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the > ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you > agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas > found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a > researcher > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > BODY of > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to > normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 Can anyone tell me which side of a magnetic to use? i hve several 3 " x 6 " magnetics that are for your referigator door. Does the side that doesn't stick to the surface the one you put next to your body. Is that the south side? Thanks Raji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 Can anyone tell me which side of a magnetic to use? i hve several 3 " x 6 " magnetics that are for your referigator door. Does the side that doesn't stick to the surface the one you put next to your body. Is that the south side? Thanks Raji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2001 Report Share Posted July 8, 2001 > Can anyone tell me which side of a magnetic to use? i hve several 3 " > x 6 " magnetics that are for your referigator door. Does the side that > doesn't stick to the surface the one you put next to your body. Is > that the south side? > > Thanks > Raji Hi Raji, " Refrigerator " magnets aren't suitable for " health " use. There are two reasons. First, they are just too thin. (Most are about 1/16 of an inch thick.) The thicker the magnet, the stronger it is and the more it will penetrate. For example, Philpott, the author of Magnet Therapy, says that a 3/8 inch thick ceramic magnet has a therapeutic penetration of about 2 inches. A one inch thick ceramic magnet has a therapeutic penetration of over six inches. So a refrigerator magnet won't penetrate much more than skin deep. This is also why your magnet won't stick to the refrigerator when you turn it over. The ceramic, paper, plastic, or whatever is covering the refrigerator magnet puts a space between the magnet and the refrigerator. The magnet isn't strong enough to hold this extra space. The main reason, though, that you can't use refrigerator magnets for health use is that they are usually monopolar. This means that both the north and south poles are on one side. This makes the magnet a bit stronger. But it is useless for health purposes. For health use, the magnet must be bipolar. This means that the north and south poles are on opposite sides. One way to check the poles of a bipolar magnet is to use a compass. The needle that points to the north pole of the earth will also point to the north pole of the magnet. The north pole is usually placed against the skin. Sincerely, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2001 Report Share Posted July 8, 2001 > Can anyone tell me which side of a magnetic to use? i hve several 3 " > x 6 " magnetics that are for your referigator door. Does the side that > doesn't stick to the surface the one you put next to your body. Is > that the south side? > > Thanks > Raji Hi Raji, " Refrigerator " magnets aren't suitable for " health " use. There are two reasons. First, they are just too thin. (Most are about 1/16 of an inch thick.) The thicker the magnet, the stronger it is and the more it will penetrate. For example, Philpott, the author of Magnet Therapy, says that a 3/8 inch thick ceramic magnet has a therapeutic penetration of about 2 inches. A one inch thick ceramic magnet has a therapeutic penetration of over six inches. So a refrigerator magnet won't penetrate much more than skin deep. This is also why your magnet won't stick to the refrigerator when you turn it over. The ceramic, paper, plastic, or whatever is covering the refrigerator magnet puts a space between the magnet and the refrigerator. The magnet isn't strong enough to hold this extra space. The main reason, though, that you can't use refrigerator magnets for health use is that they are usually monopolar. This means that both the north and south poles are on one side. This makes the magnet a bit stronger. But it is useless for health purposes. For health use, the magnet must be bipolar. This means that the north and south poles are on opposite sides. One way to check the poles of a bipolar magnet is to use a compass. The needle that points to the north pole of the earth will also point to the north pole of the magnet. The north pole is usually placed against the skin. Sincerely, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2001 Report Share Posted July 8, 2001 Rich: What is your opinion of radio speaker magnets for the body as well as for electrifying water? Thanks, Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2001 Report Share Posted July 8, 2001 Rich: What is your opinion of radio speaker magnets for the body as well as for electrifying water? Thanks, Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2001 Report Share Posted July 8, 2001 Rich: What is your opinion of radio speaker magnets for the body as well as for electrifying water? Thanks, Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2001 Report Share Posted July 8, 2001 Thanks for the information. LL & B Raji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2001 Report Share Posted July 8, 2001 Thanks for the information. LL & B Raji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2001 Report Share Posted July 8, 2001 Thanks for the information. LL & B Raji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 > Rich: What is your opinion of radio speaker magnets for the body as > well as for electrifying water? > > Thanks, > > Joe Hi Joe, Well, I just don't know. When you treat the body, you need a negative field larger than the area being treated. Because of the ring shape, I don't think speaker magnets would produce much of a negative field in the center. But that is just a guess. You'd have to measure the gauss and check for the bleed through with a magnetometer to be sure. (As the distance from the magnet increases, the bleed through decreases. So, at some point it might not have any bleed through. I just don't know if this point is within the therapeutic gauss range. Philpott says that the field must be at least 24 gauss to be effective.) I don't have a clue if speaker magnets would work for magnetizing water. Does anyone else know? Sincerely, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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