Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 > Rich: What is your opinion of radio speaker magnets for the body as > well as for electrifying water? > > Thanks, > > Joe Hi Joe, Well, I just don't know. When you treat the body, you need a negative field larger than the area being treated. Because of the ring shape, I don't think speaker magnets would produce much of a negative field in the center. But that is just a guess. You'd have to measure the gauss and check for the bleed through with a magnetometer to be sure. (As the distance from the magnet increases, the bleed through decreases. So, at some point it might not have any bleed through. I just don't know if this point is within the therapeutic gauss range. Philpott says that the field must be at least 24 gauss to be effective.) I don't have a clue if speaker magnets would work for magnetizing water. Does anyone else know? Sincerely, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 > Rich: What is your opinion of radio speaker magnets for the body as > well as for electrifying water? > > Thanks, > > Joe Hi Joe, Well, I just don't know. When you treat the body, you need a negative field larger than the area being treated. Because of the ring shape, I don't think speaker magnets would produce much of a negative field in the center. But that is just a guess. You'd have to measure the gauss and check for the bleed through with a magnetometer to be sure. (As the distance from the magnet increases, the bleed through decreases. So, at some point it might not have any bleed through. I just don't know if this point is within the therapeutic gauss range. Philpott says that the field must be at least 24 gauss to be effective.) I don't have a clue if speaker magnets would work for magnetizing water. Does anyone else know? Sincerely, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 <<The main reason, though, that you can't use refrigerator magnets for health use is that they are usually monopolar. This means that both the north and south poles are on one side. This makes the magnet a bit stronger. But it is useless for health purposes. For health use, the magnet must be bipolar. This means that the north and south poles are on opposite sides. >> Hi Rich; The concept is correct but the terminology above is exactly reversed. Mono - meaning one - polar would be one pole on a side. Many things are bipolar-including most of the Nikken pads etc... They rely on the Hall effect description in which blood ions can be positive or negative and therefore attract or repel. Mulitpolar magnets are made by magnetizing in a specific pattern after the compound is put together. Because it's easy to make insoles for example, bipolar or monopolar, I think some of those things are bipolar (two poles on one side in a pattern, usually striped) to take better advantage of the hall effect. You know what's interesting is that in the western world we use mainly the north face or even bipolar sleep sets, but in Asia its the south face thet's up in the magnetic sleep sets...In any case, circulation increases. Except for the insoles, I use neodymium magnets from www.wondermagnet.com ciao Duncan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 5/9/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 <<The main reason, though, that you can't use refrigerator magnets for health use is that they are usually monopolar. This means that both the north and south poles are on one side. This makes the magnet a bit stronger. But it is useless for health purposes. For health use, the magnet must be bipolar. This means that the north and south poles are on opposite sides. >> Hi Rich; The concept is correct but the terminology above is exactly reversed. Mono - meaning one - polar would be one pole on a side. Many things are bipolar-including most of the Nikken pads etc... They rely on the Hall effect description in which blood ions can be positive or negative and therefore attract or repel. Mulitpolar magnets are made by magnetizing in a specific pattern after the compound is put together. Because it's easy to make insoles for example, bipolar or monopolar, I think some of those things are bipolar (two poles on one side in a pattern, usually striped) to take better advantage of the hall effect. You know what's interesting is that in the western world we use mainly the north face or even bipolar sleep sets, but in Asia its the south face thet's up in the magnetic sleep sets...In any case, circulation increases. Except for the insoles, I use neodymium magnets from www.wondermagnet.com ciao Duncan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 5/9/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 <<The main reason, though, that you can't use refrigerator magnets for health use is that they are usually monopolar. This means that both the north and south poles are on one side. This makes the magnet a bit stronger. But it is useless for health purposes. For health use, the magnet must be bipolar. This means that the north and south poles are on opposite sides. >> Hi Rich; The concept is correct but the terminology above is exactly reversed. Mono - meaning one - polar would be one pole on a side. Many things are bipolar-including most of the Nikken pads etc... They rely on the Hall effect description in which blood ions can be positive or negative and therefore attract or repel. Mulitpolar magnets are made by magnetizing in a specific pattern after the compound is put together. Because it's easy to make insoles for example, bipolar or monopolar, I think some of those things are bipolar (two poles on one side in a pattern, usually striped) to take better advantage of the hall effect. You know what's interesting is that in the western world we use mainly the north face or even bipolar sleep sets, but in Asia its the south face thet's up in the magnetic sleep sets...In any case, circulation increases. Except for the insoles, I use neodymium magnets from www.wondermagnet.com ciao Duncan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 5/9/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 << What is your opinion of radio speaker magnets for the body as well as for electrifying water?>> <<Philpott says that the field must be at least 24 gauss to be effective. >> OK, According to Coghill and several studies therapeutic levels are about 750 gauss at the treatment site. That is, not at the surface, at the depth of the spot you're hitting. Though some people do seem to get relief with those thin magnets, I think the reason they're not more popular is because they're not strong enough. Even though the manufacturer's rating may be 2500 gauss, you're lucky if you're getting 160 gauss measured at the surface of the pad, and much less than that an inch deep, mostly due to the mass of the magnet. I don't think speaker magnets are what you want, but microwave oven magnetron magnets are OK even though they do have a 3/4 inch hole in the middle. They vary, but most are about 1/2 inch thich and 2 1/2 inches across. I have a couple that are 3 1/2 inches across. They are ceramic magnets of considerable weight and thus, considerable penetration. But I prefer neodymiums for the superior magnetic gradient in a reasonably sized magnet. Gradient has proven to be as important as the power, and that's why I use several 7/16 inch neos in a wrist band. Or you can use two, on either side of your shirt for proper placement. No wrap required at all. ciao Duncan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 5/9/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 << What is your opinion of radio speaker magnets for the body as well as for electrifying water?>> <<Philpott says that the field must be at least 24 gauss to be effective. >> OK, According to Coghill and several studies therapeutic levels are about 750 gauss at the treatment site. That is, not at the surface, at the depth of the spot you're hitting. Though some people do seem to get relief with those thin magnets, I think the reason they're not more popular is because they're not strong enough. Even though the manufacturer's rating may be 2500 gauss, you're lucky if you're getting 160 gauss measured at the surface of the pad, and much less than that an inch deep, mostly due to the mass of the magnet. I don't think speaker magnets are what you want, but microwave oven magnetron magnets are OK even though they do have a 3/4 inch hole in the middle. They vary, but most are about 1/2 inch thich and 2 1/2 inches across. I have a couple that are 3 1/2 inches across. They are ceramic magnets of considerable weight and thus, considerable penetration. But I prefer neodymiums for the superior magnetic gradient in a reasonably sized magnet. Gradient has proven to be as important as the power, and that's why I use several 7/16 inch neos in a wrist band. Or you can use two, on either side of your shirt for proper placement. No wrap required at all. ciao Duncan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 5/9/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 << What is your opinion of radio speaker magnets for the body as well as for electrifying water?>> <<Philpott says that the field must be at least 24 gauss to be effective. >> OK, According to Coghill and several studies therapeutic levels are about 750 gauss at the treatment site. That is, not at the surface, at the depth of the spot you're hitting. Though some people do seem to get relief with those thin magnets, I think the reason they're not more popular is because they're not strong enough. Even though the manufacturer's rating may be 2500 gauss, you're lucky if you're getting 160 gauss measured at the surface of the pad, and much less than that an inch deep, mostly due to the mass of the magnet. I don't think speaker magnets are what you want, but microwave oven magnetron magnets are OK even though they do have a 3/4 inch hole in the middle. They vary, but most are about 1/2 inch thich and 2 1/2 inches across. I have a couple that are 3 1/2 inches across. They are ceramic magnets of considerable weight and thus, considerable penetration. But I prefer neodymiums for the superior magnetic gradient in a reasonably sized magnet. Gradient has proven to be as important as the power, and that's why I use several 7/16 inch neos in a wrist band. Or you can use two, on either side of your shirt for proper placement. No wrap required at all. ciao Duncan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 5/9/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 Dear Jim, I regret missing your call and seem to have lost your phone number or I would have returned.your call. Things seem to be picking up a little steam amongst our friends and I hope we collectively can jar something looses for all our best interests. Your friend, I am also interested in the magnet info, but haven't spent much time researching. I do believe there is much to it, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 Dear Jim, I regret missing your call and seem to have lost your phone number or I would have returned.your call. Things seem to be picking up a little steam amongst our friends and I hope we collectively can jar something looses for all our best interests. Your friend, I am also interested in the magnet info, but haven't spent much time researching. I do believe there is much to it, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 Raji, I am writing to you privately to explain this last post of yours is devoid of health content and should have been sent privately. It is chat that says nothing more than thank you. Thanks for your help in cutting down on empty list posts. jim oxyplus moderator willis_43344@... wrote: > > Thanks for the information. > > LL & B > Raji > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 Raji, I am writing to you privately to explain this last post of yours is devoid of health content and should have been sent privately. It is chat that says nothing more than thank you. Thanks for your help in cutting down on empty list posts. jim oxyplus moderator willis_43344@... wrote: > > Thanks for the information. > > LL & B > Raji > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 Raji, I am writing to you privately to explain this last post of yours is devoid of health content and should have been sent privately. It is chat that says nothing more than thank you. Thanks for your help in cutting down on empty list posts. jim oxyplus moderator willis_43344@... wrote: > > Thanks for the information. > > LL & B > Raji > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 -Rich Wrote: <<The main reason, though, that you can't use refrigerator magnets for health use is that they are usually monopolar. This means that both the north and south poles are on one side. This makes the magnet a bit stronger. But it is useless for health purposes. For health use, the magnet must be bipolar. This means that the north and south poles are on opposite sides. >> Duncan wrote: <<Hi Rich; The concept is correct but the terminology above is exactly reversed. Mono - meaning one - polar would be one pole on a side>> <snip> <<According to Coghill and several studies therapeutic levels are about 750 gauss at the treatment site. That is, not at the surface, at the depth of the spot you're hitting. >> Hi Duncan, You are correct. I used the wrong terminology. Thanks for setting me straight. In regards to the therapeutic level of 750 gauss: Fred Rinker, author of The Invisible Force, says that a 4 X 6 X 1/2 inch ceramic magnet with a 3950 manufacturer's gauss rating only has a surface gauss of 800. So even a 1/2 inch thick magnet wouldn't have 750 gauss past the skin. I find it hard to believe that this huge magnet is not effective. Sincerely, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 -Rich Wrote: <<The main reason, though, that you can't use refrigerator magnets for health use is that they are usually monopolar. This means that both the north and south poles are on one side. This makes the magnet a bit stronger. But it is useless for health purposes. For health use, the magnet must be bipolar. This means that the north and south poles are on opposite sides. >> Duncan wrote: <<Hi Rich; The concept is correct but the terminology above is exactly reversed. Mono - meaning one - polar would be one pole on a side>> <snip> <<According to Coghill and several studies therapeutic levels are about 750 gauss at the treatment site. That is, not at the surface, at the depth of the spot you're hitting. >> Hi Duncan, You are correct. I used the wrong terminology. Thanks for setting me straight. In regards to the therapeutic level of 750 gauss: Fred Rinker, author of The Invisible Force, says that a 4 X 6 X 1/2 inch ceramic magnet with a 3950 manufacturer's gauss rating only has a surface gauss of 800. So even a 1/2 inch thick magnet wouldn't have 750 gauss past the skin. I find it hard to believe that this huge magnet is not effective. Sincerely, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 Hello All, depth off penetration of magnetic field doesn't neccessarily mean that one doesn't benefit from surface penetration. There are magnets that are the size of small bb's... little round balls that are used in / on accupuncture sites... on the ears and writs and many other places.... also north / south poles alternating on the surface of some magnetic flexable rubber strips (nikken) do work favorably in many areas depending what purpose you are using them for. alos... the amount of time you leave it at a paticular site. Their are many variables and applications that speaker magnets and fridge magnets can be used on. Thoughts on this... mike slivinski On Mon, 09 Jul 2001 17:22:34 -0000 rray786@... writes: > -Rich Wrote: > <<The main reason, though, that you can't use refrigerator magnets > for health use is that they are usually monopolar. This means that > both the north and south poles are on one side. This makes the > magnet > a bit stronger. But it is useless for health purposes. For health > use, the magnet must be bipolar. This means that the north and south > > poles are on opposite sides. >> > > Duncan wrote: <<Hi Rich; The concept is correct but the terminology > > above is exactly reversed. Mono - meaning one - polar would be one > pole on a side>> > <snip> > <<According to Coghill and several studies therapeutic levels > are about 750 gauss at the treatment site. That is, not at the > surface, at the depth of the spot you're hitting. >> > > Hi Duncan, > You are correct. I used the wrong terminology. Thanks for > setting me straight. In regards to the therapeutic level of 750 > gauss: Fred Rinker, author of The Invisible Force, says that a 4 X > 6 > X 1/2 inch ceramic magnet with a 3950 manufacturer's gauss rating > only has a surface gauss of 800. So even a 1/2 inch thick magnet > wouldn't have 750 gauss past the skin. I find it hard to believe > that this huge magnet is not effective. > > Sincerely, > Rich > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, > and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find > here are for information and research purposes only. We are people > sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, > you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common > sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. > By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR > yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a > medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care > provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal > mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 Hello All, depth off penetration of magnetic field doesn't neccessarily mean that one doesn't benefit from surface penetration. There are magnets that are the size of small bb's... little round balls that are used in / on accupuncture sites... on the ears and writs and many other places.... also north / south poles alternating on the surface of some magnetic flexable rubber strips (nikken) do work favorably in many areas depending what purpose you are using them for. alos... the amount of time you leave it at a paticular site. Their are many variables and applications that speaker magnets and fridge magnets can be used on. Thoughts on this... mike slivinski On Mon, 09 Jul 2001 17:22:34 -0000 rray786@... writes: > -Rich Wrote: > <<The main reason, though, that you can't use refrigerator magnets > for health use is that they are usually monopolar. This means that > both the north and south poles are on one side. This makes the > magnet > a bit stronger. But it is useless for health purposes. For health > use, the magnet must be bipolar. This means that the north and south > > poles are on opposite sides. >> > > Duncan wrote: <<Hi Rich; The concept is correct but the terminology > > above is exactly reversed. Mono - meaning one - polar would be one > pole on a side>> > <snip> > <<According to Coghill and several studies therapeutic levels > are about 750 gauss at the treatment site. That is, not at the > surface, at the depth of the spot you're hitting. >> > > Hi Duncan, > You are correct. I used the wrong terminology. Thanks for > setting me straight. In regards to the therapeutic level of 750 > gauss: Fred Rinker, author of The Invisible Force, says that a 4 X > 6 > X 1/2 inch ceramic magnet with a 3950 manufacturer's gauss rating > only has a surface gauss of 800. So even a 1/2 inch thick magnet > wouldn't have 750 gauss past the skin. I find it hard to believe > that this huge magnet is not effective. > > Sincerely, > Rich > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, > and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find > here are for information and research purposes only. We are people > sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, > you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common > sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. > By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR > yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a > medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care > provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the > following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or > BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal > mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 Hi Rich <<I find it hard to believe that this huge magnet is not effective.>> O course you'd be correct.... Coghill is a magnetic therapist, in other words, his treatments would use a large penetrating neodymium magnet and shorter duration than you'd use at home. Mike is right, the correct size and strength magnet in the correct placement is required for effect. So the weaker magnets have effect but you are limited in where you can use them. Fred's book is a great introduction and has that useful chart of measured gauss vs. manufacturers rating. By going by the chart you can create your own therapy that will have ample gradient and will penetrate to the depth you need. ciao Duncan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 5/9/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 Hi Rich <<I find it hard to believe that this huge magnet is not effective.>> O course you'd be correct.... Coghill is a magnetic therapist, in other words, his treatments would use a large penetrating neodymium magnet and shorter duration than you'd use at home. Mike is right, the correct size and strength magnet in the correct placement is required for effect. So the weaker magnets have effect but you are limited in where you can use them. Fred's book is a great introduction and has that useful chart of measured gauss vs. manufacturers rating. By going by the chart you can create your own therapy that will have ample gradient and will penetrate to the depth you need. ciao Duncan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 5/9/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 Hi Rich <<I find it hard to believe that this huge magnet is not effective.>> O course you'd be correct.... Coghill is a magnetic therapist, in other words, his treatments would use a large penetrating neodymium magnet and shorter duration than you'd use at home. Mike is right, the correct size and strength magnet in the correct placement is required for effect. So the weaker magnets have effect but you are limited in where you can use them. Fred's book is a great introduction and has that useful chart of measured gauss vs. manufacturers rating. By going by the chart you can create your own therapy that will have ample gradient and will penetrate to the depth you need. ciao Duncan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.252 / Virus Database: 125 - Release Date: 5/9/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2001 Report Share Posted July 26, 2001 Hi Rich, could you explain how you used your magnets and for how long? Thanks Joy --- rray786@... wrote: So now > that I'm starting > to feel better (from magnet therapy), I'm hesitant > ( " chicken " ) to try > the liver cleanse again. > > Sincerely, > Rich > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2001 Report Share Posted July 26, 2001 Hi Rich, could you explain how you used your magnets and for how long? Thanks Joy --- rray786@... wrote: So now > that I'm starting > to feel better (from magnet therapy), I'm hesitant > ( " chicken " ) to try > the liver cleanse again. > > Sincerely, > Rich > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2001 Report Share Posted July 26, 2001 > Hi Rich, could you explain how you used your magnets > and for how long? > Thanks > Joy Hi Joy, Well, first I bought Chiu's rings. (www.alexchiu.com) They got rid of my chronic fatigue but not much more. Then I built a vest made out of flexible magnet material and domino sized magnets. I also made a 13 X 14 inch block of 4 X 6 X 1 inch magnets. This helped quite a bit. But it had a curious side effect. It made the pain in my Achilles' tendons worse. So I tried using the large block of magnets for thirty minutes over each spot of my body except my arms. The next day my Achilles' tendons hurt less, but my arms felt like they were on fire! Because of this, I am building a magnetic bed (108, 4 X 6 X 1 inch magnets) that makes a nearly continuous surface of magnets to treat my entire body. It should be finished tomorrow, so I'll report back to the group on how well it works in a month or so. Anyway, I used the magnetic vest 24 hours a day for two weeks. I also sat on the large block of magnets during the day. To stop the pain in my Achilles' tendons, I made pads for them too. I felt better, but my fatigue started to come back when I quit wearing the magnets. So I wore the vest and pads at night. Gradually I was able to wean off them and my fatigue didn't come back. In retrospect, I wouldn't have made the vest out of flexible magnet material. It tends to crack quite a bit so I am constantly repairing it. Besides, the flexible magnet material is quite expensive. Sincerely, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2001 Report Share Posted July 26, 2001 > Hi Rich, could you explain how you used your magnets > and for how long? > Thanks > Joy Hi Joy, Well, first I bought Chiu's rings. (www.alexchiu.com) They got rid of my chronic fatigue but not much more. Then I built a vest made out of flexible magnet material and domino sized magnets. I also made a 13 X 14 inch block of 4 X 6 X 1 inch magnets. This helped quite a bit. But it had a curious side effect. It made the pain in my Achilles' tendons worse. So I tried using the large block of magnets for thirty minutes over each spot of my body except my arms. The next day my Achilles' tendons hurt less, but my arms felt like they were on fire! Because of this, I am building a magnetic bed (108, 4 X 6 X 1 inch magnets) that makes a nearly continuous surface of magnets to treat my entire body. It should be finished tomorrow, so I'll report back to the group on how well it works in a month or so. Anyway, I used the magnetic vest 24 hours a day for two weeks. I also sat on the large block of magnets during the day. To stop the pain in my Achilles' tendons, I made pads for them too. I felt better, but my fatigue started to come back when I quit wearing the magnets. So I wore the vest and pads at night. Gradually I was able to wean off them and my fatigue didn't come back. In retrospect, I wouldn't have made the vest out of flexible magnet material. It tends to crack quite a bit so I am constantly repairing it. Besides, the flexible magnet material is quite expensive. Sincerely, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2001 Report Share Posted July 26, 2001 Re: magnet therapy > ...................................................Then I built a > vest made out of flexible magnet material and domino sized magnets. > I also made a 13 X 14 inch block of 4 X 6 X 1 inch magnets. This > helped quite a bit. But it had a curious side effect. It made the > pain in my Achilles' tendons worse. So I tried using the large block > of magnets for thirty minutes over each spot of my body except my > arms. The next day my Achilles' tendons hurt less, but my arms felt > like they were on fire! Because of this, I am building a magnetic > bed (108, 4 X 6 X 1 inch magnets) that makes a nearly continuous > surface of magnets to treat my entire body. It should be finished > tomorrow, so I'll report back to the group on how well it works in a > month or so. Rich, I want to warn you about building a bed of magnets. Magnets are very powerful, and it is easy for damage to occur--as you already discovered. Please, before you continue, phone Kallie at 519-471-6234 or email her at 4optimallife@... (her website is www.4optimallife.com ) and ask her about magnetic mattress pads. Kallie is a registered nurse. Regards, Nina Silver, Ph.D. Author of THE HANDBOOK OF RIFE FREQUENCY HEALING Email me for a pre-publication bulk discount good until Sept. 15! You can read the intro to the Handbook on my website http://www.heart-of-healing.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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