Guest guest Posted July 26, 2001 Report Share Posted July 26, 2001 Re: magnet therapy > ...................................................Then I built a > vest made out of flexible magnet material and domino sized magnets. > I also made a 13 X 14 inch block of 4 X 6 X 1 inch magnets. This > helped quite a bit. But it had a curious side effect. It made the > pain in my Achilles' tendons worse. So I tried using the large block > of magnets for thirty minutes over each spot of my body except my > arms. The next day my Achilles' tendons hurt less, but my arms felt > like they were on fire! Because of this, I am building a magnetic > bed (108, 4 X 6 X 1 inch magnets) that makes a nearly continuous > surface of magnets to treat my entire body. It should be finished > tomorrow, so I'll report back to the group on how well it works in a > month or so. Rich, I want to warn you about building a bed of magnets. Magnets are very powerful, and it is easy for damage to occur--as you already discovered. Please, before you continue, phone Kallie at 519-471-6234 or email her at 4optimallife@... (her website is www.4optimallife.com ) and ask her about magnetic mattress pads. Kallie is a registered nurse. Regards, Nina Silver, Ph.D. Author of THE HANDBOOK OF RIFE FREQUENCY HEALING Email me for a pre-publication bulk discount good until Sept. 15! You can read the intro to the Handbook on my website http://www.heart-of-healing.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2001 Report Share Posted July 27, 2001 > Rich, > I want to warn you about building a bed of magnets. Magnets are very > powerful, and it is easy for damage to occur--as you already discovered. > Please, before you continue, phone Kallie at 519-471-6234 or email > her at 4optimallife@h... (her website is www.4optimallife.com ) and ask > her about magnetic mattress pads. Kallie is a registered nurse. > > Regards, > Nina Silver, Ph.D. Hi Nina, I appreciate your concerns, but your fears are unfounded. My magnetic bed is made up of magnets that have a surface gauss of approximately 980. The World Health Organization has concluded that they can find no adverse affects from a magnetic field of up to 2 Tesla. (20,000 gauss.) Furthermore, many experts recommend using a much higher gauss than what I'm using. Dr. Zimmerman says to use the strongest magnet possible. Dr. Tierra says he uses a strength of at least 3,000 gauss. Dr. Marko Markov says that the optimum gauss is 400 to 500 at the tissue level. Coghill, in The Book of Magnet Healing, recommends a strength of 700 to 2000 gauss. Dr. Philpott, the author of Magnet therapy, recommends using the " low " gauss that I'm using. Dr. Philpott has claimed to have cured some cases of cancer with a 70 magnet bed. This bed uses the same type of magnets that mine does. Research also supports the use of higher power magnets. Reno and Nutini discovered in 1964 that a field of 7300 gauss reduced the oxygen uptake to cancer cells by 50%. Harkins and Grissom discovered that the most effective strength for slowing down enzyme reactions was 500 gauss to 1500 gauss. In 1976, Yamada reported that 1300 gauss magnets were more effective than 200 gauss magnets at reducing pain. I could go on and on, but you get the idea. Perhaps you misunderstood my last post. I never got any damage from using my magnets. Just the opposite! Magnet therapy is the only type of therapy that has made me feel better. I was just trying to point out that some of my non-treated areas (temporarily, by the way) got worse. So I made my magnetic bed in order to treat my entire body. Sincerely, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2001 Report Share Posted July 27, 2001 > Rich, > I want to warn you about building a bed of magnets. Magnets are very > powerful, and it is easy for damage to occur--as you already discovered. > Please, before you continue, phone Kallie at 519-471-6234 or email > her at 4optimallife@h... (her website is www.4optimallife.com ) and ask > her about magnetic mattress pads. Kallie is a registered nurse. > > Regards, > Nina Silver, Ph.D. Hi Nina, I appreciate your concerns, but your fears are unfounded. My magnetic bed is made up of magnets that have a surface gauss of approximately 980. The World Health Organization has concluded that they can find no adverse affects from a magnetic field of up to 2 Tesla. (20,000 gauss.) Furthermore, many experts recommend using a much higher gauss than what I'm using. Dr. Zimmerman says to use the strongest magnet possible. Dr. Tierra says he uses a strength of at least 3,000 gauss. Dr. Marko Markov says that the optimum gauss is 400 to 500 at the tissue level. Coghill, in The Book of Magnet Healing, recommends a strength of 700 to 2000 gauss. Dr. Philpott, the author of Magnet therapy, recommends using the " low " gauss that I'm using. Dr. Philpott has claimed to have cured some cases of cancer with a 70 magnet bed. This bed uses the same type of magnets that mine does. Research also supports the use of higher power magnets. Reno and Nutini discovered in 1964 that a field of 7300 gauss reduced the oxygen uptake to cancer cells by 50%. Harkins and Grissom discovered that the most effective strength for slowing down enzyme reactions was 500 gauss to 1500 gauss. In 1976, Yamada reported that 1300 gauss magnets were more effective than 200 gauss magnets at reducing pain. I could go on and on, but you get the idea. Perhaps you misunderstood my last post. I never got any damage from using my magnets. Just the opposite! Magnet therapy is the only type of therapy that has made me feel better. I was just trying to point out that some of my non-treated areas (temporarily, by the way) got worse. So I made my magnetic bed in order to treat my entire body. Sincerely, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2001 Report Share Posted July 27, 2001 > Rich, > I want to warn you about building a bed of magnets. Magnets are very > powerful, and it is easy for damage to occur--as you already discovered. > Please, before you continue, phone Kallie at 519-471-6234 or email > her at 4optimallife@h... (her website is www.4optimallife.com ) and ask > her about magnetic mattress pads. Kallie is a registered nurse. > > Regards, > Nina Silver, Ph.D. Hi Nina, I appreciate your concerns, but your fears are unfounded. My magnetic bed is made up of magnets that have a surface gauss of approximately 980. The World Health Organization has concluded that they can find no adverse affects from a magnetic field of up to 2 Tesla. (20,000 gauss.) Furthermore, many experts recommend using a much higher gauss than what I'm using. Dr. Zimmerman says to use the strongest magnet possible. Dr. Tierra says he uses a strength of at least 3,000 gauss. Dr. Marko Markov says that the optimum gauss is 400 to 500 at the tissue level. Coghill, in The Book of Magnet Healing, recommends a strength of 700 to 2000 gauss. Dr. Philpott, the author of Magnet therapy, recommends using the " low " gauss that I'm using. Dr. Philpott has claimed to have cured some cases of cancer with a 70 magnet bed. This bed uses the same type of magnets that mine does. Research also supports the use of higher power magnets. Reno and Nutini discovered in 1964 that a field of 7300 gauss reduced the oxygen uptake to cancer cells by 50%. Harkins and Grissom discovered that the most effective strength for slowing down enzyme reactions was 500 gauss to 1500 gauss. In 1976, Yamada reported that 1300 gauss magnets were more effective than 200 gauss magnets at reducing pain. I could go on and on, but you get the idea. Perhaps you misunderstood my last post. I never got any damage from using my magnets. Just the opposite! Magnet therapy is the only type of therapy that has made me feel better. I was just trying to point out that some of my non-treated areas (temporarily, by the way) got worse. So I made my magnetic bed in order to treat my entire body. Sincerely, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2001 Report Share Posted July 27, 2001 Hi Rich, I have previously looked at Chiu's website. I thought his claims of immortality were a bit much. Also, what he calls south pole I call north pole, which is no big deal because the way you arrived at north or south was the same (from what I remember). I tried once to concoct something like his foot thingy, by strapping magnets across the top of one foot with north down and across the bottom of the foot with the south up, and just the opposite for the other foot. I tried to sleep like that but I began to feel weird and took them off. Maybe I will try them again. Thanks for the info and the names and titles of the books you've read. Joy --- rray786@... wrote: > > > Hi Rich, could you explain how you used your > magnets > > and for how long? > > Thanks > > Joy > > Hi Joy, > > Well, first I bought Chiu's rings. > (www.alexchiu.com) > They got rid of my chronic fatigue but not much > more. Then I built a > vest made out of flexible magnet material and domino > sized magnets. > I also made a 13 X 14 inch block of 4 X 6 X 1 inch > magnets. This > helped quite a bit. But it had a curious side > effect. It made the > pain in my Achilles' tendons worse. So I tried > using the large block > of magnets for thirty minutes over each spot of my > body except my > arms. The next day my Achilles' tendons hurt less, > but my arms felt > like they were on fire! Because of this, I am > building a magnetic > bed (108, 4 X 6 X 1 inch magnets) that makes a > nearly continuous > surface of magnets to treat my entire body. It > should be finished > tomorrow, so I'll report back to the group on how > well it works in a > month or so. > > Anyway, I used the magnetic vest 24 hours a day for > two > weeks. I also sat on the large block of magnets > during the day. To > stop the pain in my Achilles' tendons, I made pads > for them too. I > felt better, but my fatigue started to come back > when I quit wearing > the magnets. So I wore the vest and pads at night. > Gradually I was > able to wean off them and my fatigue didn't come > back. > > In retrospect, I wouldn't have made the vest out of > flexible > magnet material. It tends to crack quite a bit so I > am constantly > repairing it. Besides, the flexible magnet material > is quite > expensive. > > Sincerely, > Rich > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2001 Report Share Posted July 27, 2001 Hi Rich, I have previously looked at Chiu's website. I thought his claims of immortality were a bit much. Also, what he calls south pole I call north pole, which is no big deal because the way you arrived at north or south was the same (from what I remember). I tried once to concoct something like his foot thingy, by strapping magnets across the top of one foot with north down and across the bottom of the foot with the south up, and just the opposite for the other foot. I tried to sleep like that but I began to feel weird and took them off. Maybe I will try them again. Thanks for the info and the names and titles of the books you've read. Joy --- rray786@... wrote: > > > Hi Rich, could you explain how you used your > magnets > > and for how long? > > Thanks > > Joy > > Hi Joy, > > Well, first I bought Chiu's rings. > (www.alexchiu.com) > They got rid of my chronic fatigue but not much > more. Then I built a > vest made out of flexible magnet material and domino > sized magnets. > I also made a 13 X 14 inch block of 4 X 6 X 1 inch > magnets. This > helped quite a bit. But it had a curious side > effect. It made the > pain in my Achilles' tendons worse. So I tried > using the large block > of magnets for thirty minutes over each spot of my > body except my > arms. The next day my Achilles' tendons hurt less, > but my arms felt > like they were on fire! Because of this, I am > building a magnetic > bed (108, 4 X 6 X 1 inch magnets) that makes a > nearly continuous > surface of magnets to treat my entire body. It > should be finished > tomorrow, so I'll report back to the group on how > well it works in a > month or so. > > Anyway, I used the magnetic vest 24 hours a day for > two > weeks. I also sat on the large block of magnets > during the day. To > stop the pain in my Achilles' tendons, I made pads > for them too. I > felt better, but my fatigue started to come back > when I quit wearing > the magnets. So I wore the vest and pads at night. > Gradually I was > able to wean off them and my fatigue didn't come > back. > > In retrospect, I wouldn't have made the vest out of > flexible > magnet material. It tends to crack quite a bit so I > am constantly > repairing it. Besides, the flexible magnet material > is quite > expensive. > > Sincerely, > Rich > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2001 Report Share Posted July 27, 2001 Hi Rich, I have previously looked at Chiu's website. I thought his claims of immortality were a bit much. Also, what he calls south pole I call north pole, which is no big deal because the way you arrived at north or south was the same (from what I remember). I tried once to concoct something like his foot thingy, by strapping magnets across the top of one foot with north down and across the bottom of the foot with the south up, and just the opposite for the other foot. I tried to sleep like that but I began to feel weird and took them off. Maybe I will try them again. Thanks for the info and the names and titles of the books you've read. Joy --- rray786@... wrote: > > > Hi Rich, could you explain how you used your > magnets > > and for how long? > > Thanks > > Joy > > Hi Joy, > > Well, first I bought Chiu's rings. > (www.alexchiu.com) > They got rid of my chronic fatigue but not much > more. Then I built a > vest made out of flexible magnet material and domino > sized magnets. > I also made a 13 X 14 inch block of 4 X 6 X 1 inch > magnets. This > helped quite a bit. But it had a curious side > effect. It made the > pain in my Achilles' tendons worse. So I tried > using the large block > of magnets for thirty minutes over each spot of my > body except my > arms. The next day my Achilles' tendons hurt less, > but my arms felt > like they were on fire! Because of this, I am > building a magnetic > bed (108, 4 X 6 X 1 inch magnets) that makes a > nearly continuous > surface of magnets to treat my entire body. It > should be finished > tomorrow, so I'll report back to the group on how > well it works in a > month or so. > > Anyway, I used the magnetic vest 24 hours a day for > two > weeks. I also sat on the large block of magnets > during the day. To > stop the pain in my Achilles' tendons, I made pads > for them too. I > felt better, but my fatigue started to come back > when I quit wearing > the magnets. So I wore the vest and pads at night. > Gradually I was > able to wean off them and my fatigue didn't come > back. > > In retrospect, I wouldn't have made the vest out of > flexible > magnet material. It tends to crack quite a bit so I > am constantly > repairing it. Besides, the flexible magnet material > is quite > expensive. > > Sincerely, > Rich > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 Just some FYI. There is a mom on the spondy moms list who was just talking about this. Her son uses a magnetic pad to sleep on. She said it does seem to help him. Unfortunately, I deleted the info she had for ordering one. I know she said something about Amway having one. Anyway, I will see if I can get the info again and forward it here. Maybe it someone might like to look into this idea. Michele Magnet Therapy Doctors, Psychiatrists Turning to Magnets (2/25/2002 9:50:00 AM) http://www.nursinghands.com/News/NewsStory.html?9668 Dr. Jane Murray isn't ready to prescribe magnet therapy for any of her patients just yet. But that day could be coming. "I hear testimonials from people right and left," said Murray, a family physician who employs both traditional and complementary therapies at the Sastun Center, a clinic in Mission, Kan. "I don't disbelieve them at all. But I don't know yet how to prescribe magnet therapy." Magnets have a long history as medical devices. Cleopatra is reported to have worn a magnetic lodestone on her forehead in an attempt to forestall the aging process. For decades, magnets have occupied a place among alternative treatments, alongside herbs and acupuncture. Along the way, they also have become big business. Billions of dollars worth of medical magnets are sold each year, over the Web and in Tupperware-style home parties. Yet as they've gained adherents, medical magnets also have fallen into disrepute among many medical professionals. "A lot of fly-by-nighters started promoting magnetics for all sorts of ailments," said Abraham Blechman, an associate professor in orthodontics at Columbia University's School of Dental and Oral Surgery. He has experimented with magnets and uses them regularly in his New York practice. A couple of years ago, the Federal Trade Commission disciplined some companies for making unsubstantiated claims on Web sites about magnets' power to cure AIDS, cancer, liver disease and other conditions. "Magnetics in general got a bad reputation," Blechman said. "There are many medical people who don't believe any of the claims being made." However, he noted, that is slowly changing. "There are more and more uses of it being promoted with good scientific background," he said. "It's gradually being accepted." Several controlled clinical studies conducted in the past few years suggest that magnets may effectively treat some disorders. And a few health-care providers are routinely using magnets for a host of conditions. Blechman, for example, has used magnets for years with orthodontic patients to move teeth and to accelerate new bone growth. Some of his faculty colleagues at Columbia's medical school are using magnets experimentally to reduce pain among people who've had coronary artery bypass procedures, he said. A small number of studies have found magnets, either "permanent" magnets or electromagnets, to be effective in relieving certain kinds of pain and hastening wound-healing. Perhaps most significantly, electromagnets are being used experimentally at several university medical schools to treat depression. The procedure is known as transcranial magnetic stimulation. "That's extremely exciting," Murray said. "I think there is clearly something powerful about the human energy field and its interaction with the energy in the world -- electromagnetic, biochemical, and the energy we get from other people and plants and animals." In transcranial magnetic stimulation, a coil is held next to the patient's forehead and a pulsating electrical current passes through the coil, generating a magnetic field. That, in turn, creates a small electrical current in the region of the brain called the left prefrontal cortex. That is the area of brain thought to be underactive in depressed people. Three studies have compared transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS) to electroconvulsive therapy (ECT), a procedure in which electricity is applied directly to the entire brain. ECT is effective against depression, although it often causes short-term memory loss and other temporary cognitive problems. It gained notoriety after it was featured in the film based on Ken Kesey's "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest." In the three studies comparing the two procedures, TMS has been as effective as ECT in treating severe depression among people who are not troubled by hallucinations or delusions, according to Avery, a professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at the University of Washington Medical School in Seattle. And ECT, he said, is more effective than anti-depressant drugs. The studies so far have involved only a couple of dozen subjects. Avery soon will begin a study with about 85 subjects. Researchers theorize that the magnetic therapy may work by activating sluggish nerve cells in the left prefrontal cortex. Four years ago, researchers at Baylor University in Houston used magnets to treat muscular or arthritic-type pain in post-polio patients. They laid magnets on the painful areas for 45 minutes. Seventy-six percent of people treated with real magnets reported feeling significantly better. Nineteen percent of those given sham magnets reported significant pain relief. A team at the University of Virginia gave magnetic sleeping pads a couple of years ago to a group of people with fibromyalgia, a baffling complaint characterized by chronic and pervasive muscle pain. Compared to a control group that slept on nonmagnetized pads, those with the magnetic pads reported significantly reduced pain after sleeping on the pads for six months. Other outcomes did not differ significantly between the groups. In another study, a large group of people with intense nerve pain in their feet -- a condition known as peripheral neuropathy and common among diabetics -- were given magnetic insoles to wear. A substantial number reported less tingling and burning and numbness in their feet. Weintraub, the neurologist who orchestrated the controlled study that was conducted at 48 sites last year, said it "clearly shows that magnets work. It's a real response." He expects the study to be published in a major medical journal, and he hopes to pursue further research. Blechman stressed that the magnets that are sold widely for medical purposes not only vary in strength and design, but may not deliver as promised. He tested some and found that they were not as powerful as advertised. , a Kansas City area internist, has used magnets on occasion for years, mostly to control pain. "If somebody has an injury, like to a joint, (there are) wraps. I've used those myself, like with tendonitis, and it seems that it shortens recovery time." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 The place to get magnets is Nikken. They have the best ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Hi Leo. This was in Rife lists :- rife-list/message/7002 According Hulda /what I think is brilliant/ Bacteria changing the magnetic spins in our body,because they field opposite from us.changing the red blood cells so will be demobilatize and alters the red blood cells.Also the white blood cells killing cells make immobilized.By using negative north magnets this can be reserved to spinning left or negativ. etc etc.... Noel > > Does anyone here have experience with magnet therapy? Polarity is now > a big thing for Dr. . Thanks. > Leo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Sorry but the link for the magnets doesnt work any more. Please try this link:- http://www.healthymagnets.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/magnetic2.htm?E+scstore ....Noel > > > > Does anyone here have experience with magnet therapy? Polarity is now > > a big thing for Dr. . Thanks. > > Leo > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Does this mean magnetic therapy also doesn't work. (:<) (:-) =============================== silverlofts wrote: > Sorry but the link for the magnets doesnt work any more. > Please try this link:- > http://www.healthymagnets.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/magnetic2.htm?E+scstore > ...Noel > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 Magnet therapy does work - fixes some problems -- but like drugs, there usually are adverse side-effects when the magnetic energy interferes with one's meridian energy circuits. Jerome Mittelman, DDS, FAPM jmittelman@... For free sample of The Holistic Dental Digest PLUS, reply with your street or pob address. On Jul 30, 2007, at 11:06 AM, medmidas wrote: > Does this mean magnetic therapy also doesn't work. (:<) (:-) > =============================== > > silverlofts wrote: > > Sorry but the link for the magnets doesnt work any more. > > Please try this link:- > > http://www.healthymagnets.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/ > magnetic2.htm?E+scstore > > ...Noel > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2007 Report Share Posted July 31, 2007 Can you supply us with the documentation for the side effects? Leo -------------------- > > > Sorry but the link for the magnets doesnt work any more. > > > Please try this link:- > > > http://www.healthymagnets.com/cgi-local/SoftCart.exe/ > > magnetic2.htm?E+scstore > > > ...Noel > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2007 Report Share Posted August 10, 2007 Hi Leo, I can't say I have experience in this but I have a book called " Energy Medicine " by Donna Eden. She gives some very interesting information on the subject. Love, > > Does anyone here have experience with magnet therapy? Polarity is now > a big thing for Dr. . Thanks. > Leo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Electrosensibles should stay away from everything that is magnetic. Especially magnetic therapies. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Bitdefender Magnet Therapy > > This might be interesting for some: > http://www.westonaprice.org/moderndiseases/magnet.html > I speculate that the very strong DC field might be a barrier to all > forms of radiated electromagnetic energy, and so make possible the > healing which is otherwise impossible in our polluted environment. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Now hold on just a minute, . The earth is a magnet. If it were not a magnet, there would be no life here. I have used a special therapeutic magnet to heal burns and remove itch of insect stings. Magnetic therapy works. > > Electrosensibles should stay away from everything that is magnetic. > > Especially magnetic therapies. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Sorry, but you do not know what you are talking about. The theme here is electrosensible people. They react to everything that is magnetic. Sure, we know the earth magnetic field. Overhere it is about 45.000 nT. But all deviations from that, do have an impact on your body. (ALL dowsers can tell you that!) Therapies with magnets are not used 8 hours long, but for much shorter time periods. Most people sleep 8 hours a day. When sleeping over a magnet will be felt, and does have an impact on health. And electrosensibles cannot even stand short magnetic therapies. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Bitdefender Re: Magnet Therapy > Now hold on just a minute, . > The earth is a magnet. If it were not a magnet, there would be no > life here. > > I have used a special therapeutic magnet to heal burns and remove > itch of insect stings. > > Magnetic therapy works. > > > > > >> >> Electrosensibles should stay away from everything that is magnetic. >> >> Especially magnetic therapies. >> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 > Sorry, but you do not know what you are talking about. > > The theme here is electrosensible people. > They react to everything that is magnetic. Dear , Are you really prepared to speak for " all " ES people? Emil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Hello Emil, what di you mean? All working electrical apparatus do have a magnetic field. (Of course not on a conduit line, when current is not flowing; then only an electrical field is present.) And static magnetic fields can be as dangerous as well. And no, I cannot speak for *all* ES people, although I am speaking with them on a daily basis. Certainly, I cannot speak for the *ES* people, who protest against mobile phone masts, with a mobile phone against their brains, and using at home their beloved DECT phones and wireless modems. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Bitdefender Re: Re: Magnet Therapy >> Sorry, but you do not know what you are talking about. >> >> The theme here is electrosensible people. >> They react to everything that is magnetic. > > > Dear , > > Are you really prepared to speak for " all " ES people? > > Emil > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 > Are you really prepared to speak for " all " ES people? Yes, there is quite a variation in what ES people react (and don't react) to. I know that in my own case, I once tried some magnetic ring worn on my finger -- I had a terrible reaction to this within minutes. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 Many people do not realise, that with the high frequencies like those of mobile phones, we always use the unit V/m, which details the electrical field, that there is always a magnetic component involved. We measure only the elctrical component, because we can calculate the magnetic one, but that does not mean, that the magnetic component is not there and present. So, people who are exposed to microwave radiation, are also exposed to accompanying magnetic fields. That is why we call them electromagnetic waves. In the lower frequency range, we always speak about electrical fields, and magnetic fields, which are two different things. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Bitdefender Re: Re: Magnet Therapy >> >> >>>> Sorry, but you do not know what you are talking about. >>>> >>>> The theme here is electrosensible people. >>>> They react to everything that is magnetic. >>> >>> >>> Dear , >>> >>> Are you really prepared to speak for " all " ES people? >>> >>> Emil >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 I agree with your point. It is just that you stated: " They react to everything that is magnetic. " That statement covers a lot of ground in terms of - all electrical sensitives - all magnetic fields - all the time Emil Re: Re: Magnet Therapy > > >>> Sorry, but you do not know what you are talking about. >>> >>> The theme here is electrosensible people. >>> They react to everything that is magnetic. >> >> >> Dear , >> >> Are you really prepared to speak for " all " ES people? >> >> Emil >> >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2007 Report Share Posted September 26, 2007 > > Sorry, but you do not know what you are talking about. Au contraire, it is you who do not understand. > > The theme here is electrosensible people. Yes, note that it is almost invariably changing fields of radiation > They react to everything that is magnetic. Yes, changing and/or pulsed fields. > > Sure, we know the earth magnetic field. > Overhere it is about 45.000 nT. > But all deviations from that, do have an impact on your body. > (ALL dowsers can tell you that!) It is not so simple. > > Therapies with magnets are not used 8 hours long, but for much shorter time > periods. I have worn a SPECIALLY MADE THERAPEUTIC MAGNET for *days*. It cured the problem. > Most people sleep 8 hours a day. > When sleeping over a magnet will be felt, and does have an impact on health. Yes, not all magnets are equal. > > And electrosensibles cannot even stand short magnetic therapies. > Nonsense. A steady field of north pole *only* magnetism has been shown many times to be healing. http://www.lyonlegacy.com/behind_science_magnetic.asp?2170 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Has anyone tried magnet therapy? Neodynium magnets are the most powerful magnet available. I bought some through ebay. And I noticed it decreased the inflammation in my face. I read online that neodynium magnets increase circulation and decrease inflammation. Keep the magnets away from people with heart pacemakers and computers. ________________________________ From: mike rosner <martysfolks2004@...> rheumatic Cc: socjog <socjog@...> Sent: Wed, September 22, 2010 1:17:26 AM Subject: Re: rheumatic Update on todays US test Hi Debbie, You are definitely in my prayers. I wish you well. Let us know what the second opinion reveals and when the C125 results come back. Could you please what the US stands for in the US test. Thank you, My best to you, Dolores From: DEBBIE GIBSON <Debbullwinkle@...> Subject: rheumatic Update on todays US test " support group " <rheumatic > Cc: " socjog " <socjog@...> Date: Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 8:02 PM Hey all...saw a GYN today, she did an US and said that the endometrial lining is veryyy thickened...which might not be a big deal, have had that happen before...she took 2 biopsies..BUT she said that my ovary has something on it that should not be there...AND she is treating it as cancer until proven otherwise. She did an estradiol test, I am thinking measuring estrogen...and then did the CA 125 to ck for cancer. She said she is sending me to an ONC/GYN...she also said that at my age, 56, I should not be making the amount of estrogen I am making..and that when they see that, they know that cancer is somewhere..so...I do have another US scheduled tomorrow with my friend, she is an US tech for a hospital...my DR preferred there...I just wanted to get my 2 opinions as DR W has taught me done...I should know more...when the labs come back and the biopsies...ugh... Thanks everyone for your prayers and thoughts, Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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