my bad

[Guest guest]

,

Sorry to hear you are having such a lousy week. I think it's very exciting

that you're going to law school. You said you're taking math. Why is that?

Are you still pre-law?

What type of law do you want to pursue? I took the LSAT a while back when I

was considering being a patent attorney. I chose a different path though.

I was 32 and I decided that I could work and have a kid or I could work and

go to law school but I couldn't work, go to law school and have a kid. I

picked the kid. If I were younger I might have made a different choice.

It's interesting to think where other life paths might have taken me. This

path isn't bad but I'd have a lot more money if I were a patent attorney.

Ann

[Guest guest]

Happy birthday, and have a better week next week.

Cherilyn

-----Original Message-----From: LBE [mailto:screamingpansy@...]Sent: Saturday, 16 August, 2003 6:59 PM100-plus Subject: my bad

The current teen speak phrase in the subject of the message totally describes my week.

It started last Saturday when I had major cramps...no monthly...have not had that since May...just the cramps. Sunday the cramps continued and were so bad that I had to take two painkillers-I usually only take one, if ever. My hubby said that he could tell when the painkillers worked because I was being nice to everyone. I still hurt, I just did not care.

Monday was ok, stuck to program, I think. I don't remember anymore. I do know the rest of the week was a complete disaster. I was cranky and crampy and grouchy and....ick. The only thing that kept me marginally happy was the thought that I would be on vacation as of 2pm yesterday afternoon.

So last night was 's soccer team's parent/girl game, kind of a warm up before their first game which was today. Hubby played on the parent team, (duh, please hang in there with me-it gets better). Hubby got kicked in the foot by the coach, who played on the girls' team to help them learn how to set up passing, etc. We get home and hubby takes off his sock, which is covered with blood. A lot of blood, I was more than a little alarmed. My hubby is the type that could have molten lava poured all over his body and would say "oh, it is just a little uncomfortable", I on the other hand would be offering money to the first person who could put me out of my misery and everyone within hearing distance would know how miserable I was.

Now hubby is limping with blood coming from his toenail bed, ick and making little pain faces. I know now that he is really hurt...this is the same guy that suffered over 6 hours with major food poisoning and said it was nothing before an ambulance had to come and take him to the hospital for IV fluids, etc. So I force him to go to the immediate care near our home. He is there for a couple of hours. His toe is not broken, but a severe sprain. Oh yeah...we have tickets for Marine World, Great America and Raging Waters-Bay Area theme parks and hubby has a bum foot that he has to stay off.

While he was at the hospital, I looked at my email and had a message from my instructor. My class starts on Wed. I already have homework this week. Two papers, two quizzes and three discussion questions to answer. All righty, vacation is starting to take shape.

Hubby gets home, limp foot and all...he would not let us go with him to the doctors...he is that type. I tell him that the only thing that we need to complete our week is for my monthly-which is not really monthly, but more like whenever it wants to show up- to start.

Fast forward to today....My dad calls me. My birthday-the big 4-O- is Sunday. We were going to have a family party at my dad's. No big deal, potluck, bar-b-que thing. So dad calls...he is sick, party cancelled.

Then....it started. Yep, just when things were already screwed up...yep...the little bugger, that was absent for three months could not wait a week and shows up during vacation.

Food plan-what the heck is that???????I have no idea what I am doing ....

Exercise....you have got be kidding......

I think I will take a long bubble bath, do my nails and read a trashy romance novel.

Take care ladies....life does get better

(who actually has completed a lot of her homework already)

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> It started last Saturday when I had major cramps...no

monthly...have not had

> that since May...just the cramps. Sunday the cramps continued and

were so

> bad that I had to take two painkillers-I usually only take one, if

ever.

I'm so bad about even taking tylenol. I have to be in pain to dig

that out and in real pain to find the good stuff! I don't know why?

I guess maybe I like to torture myself... LOL

The only thing that kept me marginally happy was the

> thought that I would be on vacation as of 2pm yesterday afternoon.

You made it... vacation!!! You still have a great week of things

planned! Hopefully you will be able to enjoy most of them.

toe is not broken, but a severe sprain. Oh yeah..

> we have tickets for Marine World, Great America and Raging Waters-

Bay Area

> theme parks and hubby has a bum foot that he has to stay off.

I know it won't be as much fun, but you could check into a wheelchair

that he could use. At leas that way you could still go and have some

fun.

My class starts on Wed. I already have homework this week. Two

> papers, two quizzes and three discussion questions to answer. All

righty,

> vacation is starting to take shape.

I can't believe they actaully have homework before class has even

started! YIKES! I'm glad to see you have most of it done already

though.

> Fast forward to today....My dad calls me. My birthday-the big 4-O-

So dad calls...he is sick, party cancelled.

Maybe you can still do something fun. I hate it when things just

seem to fall apart all over!

>

> Then....it started. Yep, just when things were already screwed

up...yep..

> the little bugger, that was absent for three months could not wait

a week

> and shows up during vacation.

I really REALLY hate it when that happens! After I had my now 3 yr

old I spotted and bled all the time. Finally after 2 years of it and

my telling my Dr's it was *not* normal and tired of hearing it was

all " hormonal " I finally went back to my ob/gyn (instead of gyn/onc)

and he did a couple of tests, and nope, not normal, I had a fibriod.

Anyhow.... I totally understand when it shows up messes up plans!

>

> Food plan-what the heck is that???????I have no idea what I am

doing ....

> Exercise....you have got be kidding......

LOL... enjoy your vacation and know that we will all still be here

when you get back!

Happy Birthday!

a

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>The only thing that kept me marginally happy was the

thought that I would be on vacation as of 2pm yesterday afternoon.

Why do I have a feeling this message is going to be similar to the cop

movies where one partner is planning to retire in less than a week? And we

all know what happens to *him*, don't we? LOL

>We get home and hubby takes off his sock, which is

covered with blood. A lot of blood, I was more than a little alarmed.

Ripped the whole nail off?

>His toe is not broken, but a severe sprain. Oh yeah..

Oh, he'll walk it out. Mr. Tough Guy types alwys do.

>hubby has a bum foot that he has to stay off.

I don't think he'll waste his vacation doing *that*, do you?

>My class starts on Wed. I already have homework this week. Two

papers, two quizzes and three discussion questions to answer.

Is this a graduate level course?

>I tell him that the only thing that we need to

complete our week is for my monthly-which is not really monthly, but more

like whenever it wants to show up- to start.

I can see where this is going.

>My birthday-the big 4-O- is Sunday

Happy Birthday!

>Then....it started. Yep, just when things were already screwed up...yep..

the little bugger, that was absent for three months could not wait a week

and shows up during vacation.

Mine was dur when Ed was on vacation 2 weeks ago, and luckily it *still*

hasn't started. It's better than being *early* like last month.

>Food plan-what the heck is that???????

It's something to wrote out when the kids are playing quietly in the other

room. It *will* come in handy when school starts and you have no time to

cook elaborate meals on a daily basis. Visit some crockpot and microwave

recipe sites and get ready *now*. Just because class is only 2 days a week

doesn't mean you won't be busy doing all those homework assignments.

>I have no idea what I am doing ....

You'll work it all out.

>Exercise....you have got be kidding......

Once you start running around campus you'll get some. And maybe you can use

some on-campus facilities, like a weight room, fully furnished gym, even the

pool.

>I think I will take a long bubble bath, do my nails and read a trashy

romance novel.

Sounds like a good idea to me. I hope you enjoyed every minute of it.

Sue in NJ

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> I can't believe they actaully have homework before class has even

> started! YIKES! I'm glad to see you have most of it done already

> though.

That happened to Henry last semester for one computer course, and this

coming semester the economics professor already sent them all some lecture

notes & suggested readings (no textbook, as far as he can tell).

Sue in NJ

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i've taken something for 4 months that has helped me to feel better. it cost about $7.00 @ week.it has no known side effects. it has no known drug interactions. i feel better than i have in 3 years. however after reading my e-mails for the past few days i have learned from bob and andy that it's not working and i am wasting my hard earned money and dashing my hopes. i'll resume taking steroids and enbrel ,which cost about $1400.00 @month. i'm looking forward to feeling worse and returning to my near invalid status once again. thanks for the positive input. i now realize how foolish i've been.

[Guest guest]

Believe it or not, this is a listerve that deals with HCV. But from

personal observations the drug, enbrel rheumatoid arthritis (RA), I

would describe as a miracle drug as it has given back many people's

lives. My 12 year old niece is now attending scool again, people's

disfigurement from RA has been reversed. And buddy I know many of

them as they are far more critical than I when it comes to herbals,

as they have tried them all, and again they can only be described as

so called alt meds, or SCAM for short.

>

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Gee are you going to ask me if I have stopped beating my wife?

I have no belief system, well I actually do, I worship BOB the

invisable cloud being, the onlt commandant we live by, is " don't be

an idiot " .

I was just using some ancedotal evidense form some folks I work

closely with, as it seems that is your stock in trade when

describing things.

Angry...don't think so, but if you want to think as me as the angry

person, enjoy yourself as it affects nothing in my life or domain,

please enjoy yourself.

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[Guest guest]

They're two peas in a pod with the same agenda. And neither of them has anything constructive to suggest to those for whom western treatment has failed. That's the ONLY time these two have nothing to say....

[ ] Re: my bad

Thanks for your opinion Bob. And yes I do like irony, Bob. But how does my noticing Andy's anger relate to my questioning your motivation?? And now I am so sorry that I ever questioned your motivation, when it is clear that all you really want to do is to help people fighting this disease.Oh by the way still awaiting your answer to my earlier question :what do you suggest for people to do when interferon has not worked? Glad to see you defending Andy but he does seem to be angry at anything that doesn't fit his belief system.IE:And buddy I know many of> > > them as they are far more critical than I when it comes to herbals,> > > as they have tried them all, and again they can only be described> >as> > > so called alt meds, or SCAM for short.Then there were his personal attacks on satya that I witnessed when I first found this board, and yes,bob, I saw her losing control and swearing at him. I am not saying anything is onesided, just questionable.regards, alii> > > >> >> >> >> >----------> >

[Guest guest]

you just love to hear yourself talk too, I bet.

[ ] Re: my bad

Gee are you going to ask me if I have stopped beating my wife?I have no belief system, well I actually do, I worship BOB the invisable cloud being, the onlt commandant we live by, is "don't be an idiot".I was just using some ancedotal evidense form some folks I work closely with, as it seems that is your stock in trade when describing things. Angry...don't think so, but if you want to think as me as the angry person, enjoy yourself as it affects nothing in my life or domain, please enjoy yourself.> > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >----------> > >

[Guest guest]

Pumpboz you are a treasure You keep taking what is helping you....pay them no mind.

God Bless You, Margie.

[ ] RE: my bad

i've taken something for 4 months that has helped me to feel better. it cost about $7.00 @ week.it has no known side effects. it has no known drug interactions. i feel better than i have in 3 years. however after reading my e-mails for the past few days i have learned from bob and andy that it's not working and i am wasting my hard earned money and dashing my hopes. i'll resume taking steroids and enbrel ,which cost about $1400.00 @month. i'm looking forward to feeling worse and returning to my near invalid status once again. thanks for the positive input. i now realize how foolish i've been.

[Guest guest]

At 02:38 PM 02/03/2004, Margie wrote:

Pumpboz you are a treasure You keep taking what is helping you....pay

them no mind.

God Bless You, Margie.

jeez you make it sound like I conducted the study! Here is some more info

from Dr. Weil alt med guru. Sorry you don't like the study results but

they are what they are.

regards,

BobK

http://www.drweil.com/app/cda/drw_cda.html-command=TodayQA-questionId=10031

Today's Question

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Guaifenesin for Fibromyalgia?

I recently heard about something called guaifenesin therapy for

fibromyalgia. Is it safe?

-- Radha Armstrong

Today's Answer

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(Published 10/29/2001)

Guaifenesin is an ingredient used in many cough syrups to loosen mucus in

the respiratory tract. For years it has been promoted as a fibromyalgia

treatment by a Los Angeles physician, R. St. Amand, MD, assistant

clinical professor of medicine at UCLA. Dr. St. Amand found that

guaifenesin seems to relieve fibromyalgia symptoms, theoretically by

ridding muscles, tendons, joints, and other tissues of harmful calcium

phosphate deposits believed to be caused by a defect in kidney function.

Dr. St. Amand and others think that guaifenesin works on the kidneys to

increase uric acid excretion and thereby also promotes phosphate elimination.

The trouble is, no one else has been able to demonstrate in scientific

studies that calcium phosphate deposits are a problem in fibromyalgia or

that guaifenesin works to relieve symptoms. In 1996, results of a

year-long, double-blinded, placebo-controlled study of guaifenesin

conducted by M. , MD, professor of medicine and chairman of

the Division of Arthritis and Rheumatic Diseases at Oregon Health Sciences

University in Portland, showed no difference between guaifenesin treatment

and placebo ­that is, no change in symptoms or in levels of phosphates

and/or uric acid in blood or urine.

Still, guaifenesin enthusiasts took Dr. and his team to task for

conducting a " flawed " study because participants may have used cosmetics

and other topical products that contain salicylates (also found in

aspirin), which, they say, interfere with guaifenesin functioning. This

claim seems a little disingenuous given that proponents of guaifenesin as a

cure for fibromyalgia hadn’t previously suggested that it wouldn't work if

patients used topical products and oral herbal medications containing

salicylates. Furthermore, it’s pretty unlikely that you could absorb enough

salicylates from makeup to interfere with guaifenesin's supposed effects.

The side effects of guaifenesin (such as stomach upset) are rare, so if

someone has had good results using it for fibromyalgia, that’s fine.

However, I’m more apt to recommend lifestyle and other approaches to help

ease fibromyalgia symptoms. Here's what I suggest:

* Exercise. Easier said than done when you're dealing with the pain and

fatigue of fibromyalgia, but exercise can be a big help. Begin with 3 to 5

minutes daily three times a week and work up to 30 minutes a day, 5 days a

week.

* Relax. Try breath work, meditation, or yoga to counteract stress.

* Consider cognitive-behavioral therapy. This therapy can teach you new

ways to cope with symptoms and stress.

* Try the Feldenkrais Method. These gentle movement exercises help

correct poor posture or habits of movement that may contribute to pain.

* Improve sleep. Better bedtime habits can help counter fatigue.

* Eat well. A diet rich in fruits, vegetables, and whole grains will

fortify your body's natural defenses and healing system.

* Take supplements. In addition to my daily antioxidant regimen, take

750 mg of magnesium and 1,500 mg of calcium daily to relax nerves and muscles.

Recent evidence indicates that acupuncture, massage, and chiropractic may

also help relieve fibromyalgia symptoms.

Dr. Weil

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[Guest guest]

thats scary. I was cutting back on my mino..was having side effects, so now i

would be worried about trying to get off it? I am starting LDN soon, so that

means the mino didnt get rid of the RA but only controled it.. Ive also had more

aches lately, but wrote that off to it being spring and doing alot more yard

work... Good luck with yours.. Kathy

[Guest guest]

This must be the winter of flares, I was diagnosed with RA in 98 and went on

minocin and did great until last fall. My sed ended up being 100, I was on

crutches. I never stopped my minocin, but I did built a barn last summer,

worked hard did alot of riding and for along time refused to believe it was

my RA. I finally went to a rhumatologist and while I still take minocin I

also take enbril, something I had hoped to avoid. I fell better, but I lost

20 pounds of muscle during my flare and I still have a bakers cyst behind my

left knee and that knee will buckle if I do stretches where I just stand on

it and put my right leg up and stretch. So I know everyday that I damaged

myself by not doing something sooner. I had thought I had beat RA, but I

guess you never get to do that.

Here's hoping we all have a better spring.

[Guest guest]

Cooky, I just want to crawl through this darned computer and give you a big hug.

I did not do what you did. I guess because I am in a different place from the

physician who has brought me to wellness and that my docs here who treat me for

any old thing do not believe in AP protocol, and because here I am, not only

ALIVE but well, I am tested for all these things for the least little thing,

for a new prescription for my thyroid, for sinus infections etc. Somehow, these

tests are always slipped into the blood studies. I feel like a bug here under a

microscope being surrounded by the Elite medical corridor who wear the white

coats with the stethescopes hanging around their necks but lacking the DESIRE to

learn these newer things that work. ly, I think they have become arrogant

and lazy. Reading your email does make me wonder if I need to up my Minocin. I

had gone off completely and another email scared me so I went back on it 100 mg

once a day MWF which is half of what I always did in my pursuit. All my tests

still come back negative but with scleroderma, I am a believer in keeping this

baby under control. I don't think scared begins to describe my feelings about

the scleroderma coming back. In the meantime, I will keep you in my prayers

and know there are many, many of us old timers out here in cyberspace who will

be wishing you back to wellness quickly. I think we both arrived here at this

site just about the same time - a lifetime ago, wasn't it? By the way, when I

had gone off and went back on at this dosage, I herxed. Guess that never goes

away.

Keep us all apprised. The newcomers need to see this to so that they truly

understand this journey and how much they have to gain and lose. Love,

Fain

rheumatic my bad

Hi Everyone,

This is kind of an update...kind of embarrassing because I should have known

better.

Before Christmas of 2008 I started to forget taking my 200mgm 2 times a day

minocin. I have been on minocin since October 1997. By spring of 2009 I was

taking it here and there. By summer I stopped altogether. I had hardly any

pain(I have rheumatoid arthritis and fibro) and no farther deformaties

(which are very small to say the least).

Fall of 2009 I started having back aches.not spinal but pretty severe. I

also had 2 toes that were red and ached a lot. I attributed this to

everything except rheumatoid. Christmas was bad with the back ache and the

toes hurt a lot but I said it was from baking and cooking and there is the

fibro. By January my knuckles on left hand were achy and swollen but on an

irregular basis so hey it was just fibro.

In March hubby and I put in a new kitchen and I pushed and pulled a lot. I

also used my arms to take out and put things in the new cabinets. Nuckles

hurt back hurt. Then BOTH rotator cuffs and muscles in the arms hurt so bad

I could not move them. It felt like something I had in my earlier days of

rheumatoid. Called my doc and had a rheumatoid factor done. Since about

year 2000 all my tests had been negative. I did not even see a

rheumatologist in the last 8 years. The rheumatoid factor was 95! This is

what it was in 1997 when I was first diagnosed! The CRP was 4.2. The week

before testing I started back on Minocin. slowly. Talked to my doctor and he

refused to let me do my own IV's again (hubby tied the tourniquet and held

the skin and I inserted a needle..being a nurse I knew how to set it up and

insert the needles). He said insurance( mumble- mumble something). Ok so I

said how about oral? Yes I could and even tho IM shots did nothing for me I

had to try. (have an app in June and if I am not better I will convince him

to let me do IV's)

I am doing physical therapy for the arms..about 3 weeks now. They are better

but still pain at night sometimes. Left knuckles still swelling at times.

Last week the right hand nuckles started hurting. Right ankle swollen now

like in 1997. Top of shoulders ache bad. I have mitro valve prolapsed and

have what feels like skipped beats and they started with a vengeance.

OMGoodness what is going on here.I was freaking out. About 6 weeks on

Minocin and 5 on clindy oral and I think I am having a herx!!!

I don't know how long I had a increased rheumatoid factor. I had aches and

what I called my " normal pain " ..so did I have an increase for 3 years.2

years? 6 months? I will never go a year without having a RF done again. I

won't chalk up pain to daily living. I don't know if anything bad happened

to those knuckles while I was off minocin or what else happened to my body.

Thanks for listening and get a RF done.

Hugs

cooky

[Guest guest]

Kathy, minocin never gets rid of the infection. Please do more reading to

understand better..google minocin and antibiotics and get on the other

antibiotic site. One of the reasons we take mino every other day or MWF is

because of how they propagate. So if we are not killing all of them when

they are born they will live to produce more. It is also why we need to

worry about keeping the liver healthy, the gut healthy and lots of good bugs

to keep these healthy. It s really so much more complicated this way than

taking meds to kill the immune system BUT WE get to live longer! I truly

don't think I would still be living and so active if I took all the meds

that came out for rheumatoid.

Yes all my different pains I wrote off to new shoes or doing to many new

things. I would suggest getting a RF and sed rate as well as CRP. If your

pain is bad enough for LDN.what do you think?

Hugs.

cooky

From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf

Of Kathy

Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 9:22 AM

rheumatic

Subject: rheumatic Re:my bad

thats scary. I was cutting back on my mino..was having side effects, so now

i would be worried about trying to get off it? I am starting LDN soon, so

that means the mino didnt get rid of the RA but only controled it.. Ive also

had more aches lately, but wrote that off to it being spring and doing alot

more yard work... Good luck with yours.. Kathy

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