Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 I just sent this on to my husband as he is a moderator in the group. Personally, if you son wants to go I would let him go. Who knows somewhere down the line he may be able to help his wife or significant other should she run into problems. Hugs nne Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html BreastCancerStories.com http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/ Angel Feather Loomer www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com Check out my other ornaments at www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html Lots of info and gifts at: www.cancerclub.com Would You? Especially Directed to Men on the Group Hello, Ok, this note is directed to EVERYONE, but thought I would like to especially want men's opinions. In a couple of weeks my husband and I are attending a breast cancer care class. It is primarily for the caregiver and includes education on treatments, surgery options, and basically what to expect as the caregiver. My husband asked the " signup woman " if our oldest son (age 15) would be welcomed. She said we would have to decide because prosthetics would be passed around. Now, we have never made it a secret that I breastfed our three boys, and for a long time (by American standards). So, they know that breasts are for feeding babies. Of course, *now* our boys know that breasts can be cancerous. Lastly, they know that breasts are for sexuality. I know that the decision on whether my son goes to the class will be OUR decision. However, I wanted the input on those on the list. Would you want your 15-year-old son to go to a class about breast cancer where prosthetics would be shown? Men, do you think the prosthetics would be " too much " for a boy with, er, hormones? TIA! -Frances M R Bartels ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^ http://www.RudolphsRabbitRanch.com Central Ohio | ^ - ^ Order Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com ------- (o o) Internet for $11.99/month ^#092389^ |ooOoo| >{ | }< ^ http://1.connectto.net/?s_c=1005349607 ------- RRR)* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/407 - Release Date: 8/3/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 I just sent this on to my husband as he is a moderator in the group. Personally, if you son wants to go I would let him go. Who knows somewhere down the line he may be able to help his wife or significant other should she run into problems. Hugs nne Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html BreastCancerStories.com http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/ Angel Feather Loomer www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com Check out my other ornaments at www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html Lots of info and gifts at: www.cancerclub.com Would You? Especially Directed to Men on the Group Hello, Ok, this note is directed to EVERYONE, but thought I would like to especially want men's opinions. In a couple of weeks my husband and I are attending a breast cancer care class. It is primarily for the caregiver and includes education on treatments, surgery options, and basically what to expect as the caregiver. My husband asked the " signup woman " if our oldest son (age 15) would be welcomed. She said we would have to decide because prosthetics would be passed around. Now, we have never made it a secret that I breastfed our three boys, and for a long time (by American standards). So, they know that breasts are for feeding babies. Of course, *now* our boys know that breasts can be cancerous. Lastly, they know that breasts are for sexuality. I know that the decision on whether my son goes to the class will be OUR decision. However, I wanted the input on those on the list. Would you want your 15-year-old son to go to a class about breast cancer where prosthetics would be shown? Men, do you think the prosthetics would be " too much " for a boy with, er, hormones? TIA! -Frances M R Bartels ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^ http://www.RudolphsRabbitRanch.com Central Ohio | ^ - ^ Order Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com ------- (o o) Internet for $11.99/month ^#092389^ |ooOoo| >{ | }< ^ http://1.connectto.net/?s_c=1005349607 ------- RRR)* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/407 - Release Date: 8/3/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 >-Frances I have an eighteen year old son and if I had the opportunity to attend a class like you are describing I absolutely would take him if he wanted to go. (I would have even done so 3 years ago) My son is just as much a part of our family and just as scared as myself, my husband and my daughters and he needs the information just as much as the rest of us. Perhaps I have some different perspective because my son has been breeding, raising, showing, and even sometimes milking livestock with 4-H for the last 5 years. So while he understands that there is a sexual conotation for breasts he also understands fully the functional purpose of the mammery gland. As far as the prosthesis is concerned all he will see is a piece of silicon that looks somewhat like a breast. in Denver > Hello, > Ok, this note is directed to EVERYONE, but thought I would like to > especially want men's opinions. > In a couple of weeks my husband and I are attending a breast cancer > care class. It is primarily for the caregiver and includes education > on treatments, surgery options, and basically what to expect as the > caregiver. My husband asked the " signup woman " if our oldest son (age > 15) would be welcomed. She said we would have to decide because > prosthetics would be passed around. > Now, we have never made it a secret that I breastfed our three boys, > and for a long time (by American standards). So, they know that > breasts are for feeding babies. Of course, *now* our boys know that > breasts can be cancerous. Lastly, they know that breasts are for > sexuality. > I know that the decision on whether my son goes to the class will be > OUR decision. However, I wanted the input on those on the list. Would > you want your 15-year-old son to go to a class about breast cancer > where prosthetics would be shown? Men, do you think the prosthetics > would be " too much " for a boy with, er, hormones? > TIA! > -Frances > > M R Bartels ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^ > http://www.RudolphsRabbitRanch.com Central Ohio | ^ - ^ > Order Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com ------- (o o) > Internet for $11.99/month ^#092389^ |ooOoo| >{ | }< > ^ http://1.connectto.net/?s_c=1005349607 ------- RRR) * > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 >-Frances I have an eighteen year old son and if I had the opportunity to attend a class like you are describing I absolutely would take him if he wanted to go. (I would have even done so 3 years ago) My son is just as much a part of our family and just as scared as myself, my husband and my daughters and he needs the information just as much as the rest of us. Perhaps I have some different perspective because my son has been breeding, raising, showing, and even sometimes milking livestock with 4-H for the last 5 years. So while he understands that there is a sexual conotation for breasts he also understands fully the functional purpose of the mammery gland. As far as the prosthesis is concerned all he will see is a piece of silicon that looks somewhat like a breast. in Denver > Hello, > Ok, this note is directed to EVERYONE, but thought I would like to > especially want men's opinions. > In a couple of weeks my husband and I are attending a breast cancer > care class. It is primarily for the caregiver and includes education > on treatments, surgery options, and basically what to expect as the > caregiver. My husband asked the " signup woman " if our oldest son (age > 15) would be welcomed. She said we would have to decide because > prosthetics would be passed around. > Now, we have never made it a secret that I breastfed our three boys, > and for a long time (by American standards). So, they know that > breasts are for feeding babies. Of course, *now* our boys know that > breasts can be cancerous. Lastly, they know that breasts are for > sexuality. > I know that the decision on whether my son goes to the class will be > OUR decision. However, I wanted the input on those on the list. Would > you want your 15-year-old son to go to a class about breast cancer > where prosthetics would be shown? Men, do you think the prosthetics > would be " too much " for a boy with, er, hormones? > TIA! > -Frances > > M R Bartels ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^ > http://www.RudolphsRabbitRanch.com Central Ohio | ^ - ^ > Order Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com ------- (o o) > Internet for $11.99/month ^#092389^ |ooOoo| >{ | }< > ^ http://1.connectto.net/?s_c=1005349607 ------- RRR) * > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 >-Frances I have an eighteen year old son and if I had the opportunity to attend a class like you are describing I absolutely would take him if he wanted to go. (I would have even done so 3 years ago) My son is just as much a part of our family and just as scared as myself, my husband and my daughters and he needs the information just as much as the rest of us. Perhaps I have some different perspective because my son has been breeding, raising, showing, and even sometimes milking livestock with 4-H for the last 5 years. So while he understands that there is a sexual conotation for breasts he also understands fully the functional purpose of the mammery gland. As far as the prosthesis is concerned all he will see is a piece of silicon that looks somewhat like a breast. in Denver > Hello, > Ok, this note is directed to EVERYONE, but thought I would like to > especially want men's opinions. > In a couple of weeks my husband and I are attending a breast cancer > care class. It is primarily for the caregiver and includes education > on treatments, surgery options, and basically what to expect as the > caregiver. My husband asked the " signup woman " if our oldest son (age > 15) would be welcomed. She said we would have to decide because > prosthetics would be passed around. > Now, we have never made it a secret that I breastfed our three boys, > and for a long time (by American standards). So, they know that > breasts are for feeding babies. Of course, *now* our boys know that > breasts can be cancerous. Lastly, they know that breasts are for > sexuality. > I know that the decision on whether my son goes to the class will be > OUR decision. However, I wanted the input on those on the list. Would > you want your 15-year-old son to go to a class about breast cancer > where prosthetics would be shown? Men, do you think the prosthetics > would be " too much " for a boy with, er, hormones? > TIA! > -Frances > > M R Bartels ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^ > http://www.RudolphsRabbitRanch.com Central Ohio | ^ - ^ > Order Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com ------- (o o) > Internet for $11.99/month ^#092389^ |ooOoo| >{ | }< > ^ http://1.connectto.net/?s_c=1005349607 ------- RRR) * > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 Quoting & nne Svihlik : > I just sent this on to my husband as he is a moderator in the group. > > Personally, if you son wants to go I would let him go. Who knows > somewhere down the line he may be able to help his wife or > significant other should she run into problems. I am thinking my son might have a more immediate use for the course info. He would be my husband's " backup. " No, he can't drive, but might be needed to call the doctor or " something " should I be too sick to do so. On my first appointment my onc's office had me fill out a list of whom they could talk to about my condition and I put my son on that list. -Frances M R Bartels ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^ http://www.RudolphsRabbitRanch.com Central Ohio | ^ - ^ Order Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com ------- (o o) Internet for $11.99/month ^#092389^ |ooOoo| >{ | }< ^ http://1.connectto.net/?s_c=1005349607 ------- RRR)* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 Quoting & nne Svihlik : > I just sent this on to my husband as he is a moderator in the group. > > Personally, if you son wants to go I would let him go. Who knows > somewhere down the line he may be able to help his wife or > significant other should she run into problems. I am thinking my son might have a more immediate use for the course info. He would be my husband's " backup. " No, he can't drive, but might be needed to call the doctor or " something " should I be too sick to do so. On my first appointment my onc's office had me fill out a list of whom they could talk to about my condition and I put my son on that list. -Frances M R Bartels ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^ http://www.RudolphsRabbitRanch.com Central Ohio | ^ - ^ Order Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com ------- (o o) Internet for $11.99/month ^#092389^ |ooOoo| >{ | }< ^ http://1.connectto.net/?s_c=1005349607 ------- RRR)* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 Quoting sewmary28 : > > Perhaps I have some different perspective because my son has been > breeding, raising, showing, and even sometimes milking livestock > with 4-H for the last 5 years. So while he understands that there > is a sexual conotation for breasts he also understands fully the > functional purpose of the mammery gland. As far as the prosthesis I never thought of that. We've been raising rabbits for more than a dozen years (most of those when we lived in Denver). My oldest often has done the breeding (carrying the doe to the buck's cage). He's also helped me sex ducks and geese. Thanks for this insight. -Frances M R Bartels ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^ http://www.RudolphsRabbitRanch.com Central Ohio | ^ - ^ Order Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com ------- (o o) Internet for $11.99/month ^#092389^ |ooOoo| >{ | }< ^ http://1.connectto.net/?s_c=1005349607 ------- RRR)* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 Quoting sewmary28 : > > Perhaps I have some different perspective because my son has been > breeding, raising, showing, and even sometimes milking livestock > with 4-H for the last 5 years. So while he understands that there > is a sexual conotation for breasts he also understands fully the > functional purpose of the mammery gland. As far as the prosthesis I never thought of that. We've been raising rabbits for more than a dozen years (most of those when we lived in Denver). My oldest often has done the breeding (carrying the doe to the buck's cage). He's also helped me sex ducks and geese. Thanks for this insight. -Frances M R Bartels ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^ http://www.RudolphsRabbitRanch.com Central Ohio | ^ - ^ Order Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com ------- (o o) Internet for $11.99/month ^#092389^ |ooOoo| >{ | }< ^ http://1.connectto.net/?s_c=1005349607 ------- RRR)* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 Quoting sewmary28 : > > Perhaps I have some different perspective because my son has been > breeding, raising, showing, and even sometimes milking livestock > with 4-H for the last 5 years. So while he understands that there > is a sexual conotation for breasts he also understands fully the > functional purpose of the mammery gland. As far as the prosthesis I never thought of that. We've been raising rabbits for more than a dozen years (most of those when we lived in Denver). My oldest often has done the breeding (carrying the doe to the buck's cage). He's also helped me sex ducks and geese. Thanks for this insight. -Frances M R Bartels ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^ http://www.RudolphsRabbitRanch.com Central Ohio | ^ - ^ Order Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com ------- (o o) Internet for $11.99/month ^#092389^ |ooOoo| >{ | }< ^ http://1.connectto.net/?s_c=1005349607 ------- RRR)* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 Hello, My son would have wanted to go at that age and now, he is 27 now. Fact is fact, he knows what breasts are for and how they are used. He knows you have cancer and needs to know what is involved, how to take care of you and mostly even the prosthetic needs to be seen, so he will know what it is and why it is used. My son was never embarrassed about only thing about the female body, his wife was very pleased about it as he would even buy her tampons or feminine products without embarrassment. If it were my son, I'd bring him along. My 2 cents worth, Jolene Would You? Especially Directed to Men on the Group Hello, Ok, this note is directed to EVERYONE, but thought I would like to especially want men's opinions. In a couple of weeks my husband and I are attending a breast cancer care class. It is primarily for the caregiver and includes education on treatments, surgery options, and basically what to expect as the caregiver. My husband asked the " signup woman " if our oldest son (age 15) would be welcomed. She said we would have to decide because prosthetics would be passed around. Now, we have never made it a secret that I breastfed our three boys, and for a long time (by American standards). So, they know that breasts are for feeding babies. Of course, *now* our boys know that breasts can be cancerous. Lastly, they know that breasts are for sexuality. I know that the decision on whether my son goes to the class will be OUR decision. However, I wanted the input on those on the list. Would you want your 15-year-old son to go to a class about breast cancer where prosthetics would be shown? Men, do you think the prosthetics would be " too much " for a boy with, er, hormones? TIA! -Frances M R Bartels ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^ http://www.RudolphsRabbitRanch.com Central Ohio | ^ - ^ Order Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com ------- (o o) Internet for $11.99/month ^#092389^ |ooOoo| >{ | }< ^ http://1.connectto.net/?s_c=1005349607 ------- RRR)* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.5/404 - Release Date: 7/31/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 > > > Perhaps I have some different perspective because my son has been > > breeding, raising, showing, and even sometimes milking livestock > > with 4-H for the last 5 years. So while he understands that there > > is a sexual conotation for breasts he also understands fully the > > functional purpose of the mammery gland. As far as the prosthesis > I never thought of that. We've been raising rabbits for more than a > dozen years (most of those when we lived in Denver). My oldest often > has done the breeding (carrying the doe to the buck's cage). He's also > helped me sex ducks and geese. > Thanks for this insight. > -Frances > M R Bartels ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^ > http://www.RudolphsRabbitRanch.com Central Ohio | ^ - ^ > Order Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com ------- (o o) > Internet for $11.99/month ^#092389^ |ooOoo| >{ | }< > ^ http://1.connectto.net/?s_c=1005349607 ------- RRR) * > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 I think you need to consider what is best for him. You know your son. This can be a tramatic time for a child (my mother had b/c when I was a boy) as well as yourself. He will have his own issues at this stressful time just as a husband does. 15 year old boys vary a lot (as a scout leader I have worked with many). You must judge how robust your sons make up is. I am not as worried about the physical part of things but rather the emotional impact on your son. Not all 15 year olds are ready to be thrust into a primary or secondary care giver role. Obviously your son will be there to help and support you but depending on the class it may be to focused on the role of your partner and ignores the needs and fears of a child. I suggest you find a group that supports the children of women with breast cancer where he can learn how to support you in a manner targeted to a son of 15. You must help guide him to make the best choice for him, he may not be ready or able to take on such a role as the course seems to suggest. If he is ready, great but look to his needs and his ability to cope with the situation. While it would be great if he was able to participate and be of great help and support to you, it would be tragic if he was not ready and this pushed him to far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 I think you need to consider what is best for him. You know your son. This can be a tramatic time for a child (my mother had b/c when I was a boy) as well as yourself. He will have his own issues at this stressful time just as a husband does. 15 year old boys vary a lot (as a scout leader I have worked with many). You must judge how robust your sons make up is. I am not as worried about the physical part of things but rather the emotional impact on your son. Not all 15 year olds are ready to be thrust into a primary or secondary care giver role. Obviously your son will be there to help and support you but depending on the class it may be to focused on the role of your partner and ignores the needs and fears of a child. I suggest you find a group that supports the children of women with breast cancer where he can learn how to support you in a manner targeted to a son of 15. You must help guide him to make the best choice for him, he may not be ready or able to take on such a role as the course seems to suggest. If he is ready, great but look to his needs and his ability to cope with the situation. While it would be great if he was able to participate and be of great help and support to you, it would be tragic if he was not ready and this pushed him to far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2006 Report Share Posted August 5, 2006 I think you need to consider what is best for him. You know your son. This can be a tramatic time for a child (my mother had b/c when I was a boy) as well as yourself. He will have his own issues at this stressful time just as a husband does. 15 year old boys vary a lot (as a scout leader I have worked with many). You must judge how robust your sons make up is. I am not as worried about the physical part of things but rather the emotional impact on your son. Not all 15 year olds are ready to be thrust into a primary or secondary care giver role. Obviously your son will be there to help and support you but depending on the class it may be to focused on the role of your partner and ignores the needs and fears of a child. I suggest you find a group that supports the children of women with breast cancer where he can learn how to support you in a manner targeted to a son of 15. You must help guide him to make the best choice for him, he may not be ready or able to take on such a role as the course seems to suggest. If he is ready, great but look to his needs and his ability to cope with the situation. While it would be great if he was able to participate and be of great help and support to you, it would be tragic if he was not ready and this pushed him to far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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