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I just sent this on to my husband as he is a moderator in the group.

Personally, if you son wants to go I would let him go. Who knows somewhere down

the line he may be able to help his wife or significant other should she run

into problems.

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Hello,

Ok, this note is directed to EVERYONE, but thought I would like to

especially want men's opinions.

In a couple of weeks my husband and I are attending a breast cancer

care class. It is primarily for the caregiver and includes education

on treatments, surgery options, and basically what to expect as the

caregiver. My husband asked the " signup woman " if our oldest son (age

15) would be welcomed. She said we would have to decide because

prosthetics would be passed around.

Now, we have never made it a secret that I breastfed our three boys,

and for a long time (by American standards). So, they know that

breasts are for feeding babies. Of course, *now* our boys know that

breasts can be cancerous. Lastly, they know that breasts are for

sexuality.

I know that the decision on whether my son goes to the class will be

OUR decision. However, I wanted the input on those on the list. Would

you want your 15-year-old son to go to a class about breast cancer

where prosthetics would be shown? Men, do you think the prosthetics

would be " too much " for a boy with, er, hormones?

TIA!

-Frances

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I just sent this on to my husband as he is a moderator in the group.

Personally, if you son wants to go I would let him go. Who knows somewhere down

the line he may be able to help his wife or significant other should she run

into problems.

Hugs

nne

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http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html

BreastCancerStories.com

http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/

Angel Feather Loomer

www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com

Check out my other ornaments at

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Lots of info and gifts at:

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Would You? Especially Directed to Men on the Group

Hello,

Ok, this note is directed to EVERYONE, but thought I would like to

especially want men's opinions.

In a couple of weeks my husband and I are attending a breast cancer

care class. It is primarily for the caregiver and includes education

on treatments, surgery options, and basically what to expect as the

caregiver. My husband asked the " signup woman " if our oldest son (age

15) would be welcomed. She said we would have to decide because

prosthetics would be passed around.

Now, we have never made it a secret that I breastfed our three boys,

and for a long time (by American standards). So, they know that

breasts are for feeding babies. Of course, *now* our boys know that

breasts can be cancerous. Lastly, they know that breasts are for

sexuality.

I know that the decision on whether my son goes to the class will be

OUR decision. However, I wanted the input on those on the list. Would

you want your 15-year-old son to go to a class about breast cancer

where prosthetics would be shown? Men, do you think the prosthetics

would be " too much " for a boy with, er, hormones?

TIA!

-Frances

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>-Frances

I have an eighteen year old son and if I had the opportunity to

attend a class like you are describing I absolutely would take him

if he wanted to go. (I would have even done so 3 years ago) My son

is just as much a part of our family and just as scared as myself,

my husband and my daughters and he needs the information just as

much as the rest of us.

Perhaps I have some different perspective because my son has been

breeding, raising, showing, and even sometimes milking livestock

with 4-H for the last 5 years. So while he understands that there

is a sexual conotation for breasts he also understands fully the

functional purpose of the mammery gland. As far as the prosthesis

is concerned all he will see is a piece of silicon that looks

somewhat like a breast.

in Denver

> Hello,

> Ok, this note is directed to EVERYONE, but thought I would like

to

> especially want men's opinions.

> In a couple of weeks my husband and I are attending a breast

cancer

> care class. It is primarily for the caregiver and includes

education

> on treatments, surgery options, and basically what to expect as

the

> caregiver. My husband asked the " signup woman " if our oldest son

(age

> 15) would be welcomed. She said we would have to decide because

> prosthetics would be passed around.

> Now, we have never made it a secret that I breastfed our three

boys,

> and for a long time (by American standards). So, they know that

> breasts are for feeding babies. Of course, *now* our boys know

that

> breasts can be cancerous. Lastly, they know that breasts are for

> sexuality.

> I know that the decision on whether my son goes to the class

will be

> OUR decision. However, I wanted the input on those on the list.

Would

> you want your 15-year-old son to go to a class about breast cancer

> where prosthetics would be shown? Men, do you think the

prosthetics

> would be " too much " for a boy with, er, hormones?

> TIA!

> -Frances

>

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>-Frances

I have an eighteen year old son and if I had the opportunity to

attend a class like you are describing I absolutely would take him

if he wanted to go. (I would have even done so 3 years ago) My son

is just as much a part of our family and just as scared as myself,

my husband and my daughters and he needs the information just as

much as the rest of us.

Perhaps I have some different perspective because my son has been

breeding, raising, showing, and even sometimes milking livestock

with 4-H for the last 5 years. So while he understands that there

is a sexual conotation for breasts he also understands fully the

functional purpose of the mammery gland. As far as the prosthesis

is concerned all he will see is a piece of silicon that looks

somewhat like a breast.

in Denver

> Hello,

> Ok, this note is directed to EVERYONE, but thought I would like

to

> especially want men's opinions.

> In a couple of weeks my husband and I are attending a breast

cancer

> care class. It is primarily for the caregiver and includes

education

> on treatments, surgery options, and basically what to expect as

the

> caregiver. My husband asked the " signup woman " if our oldest son

(age

> 15) would be welcomed. She said we would have to decide because

> prosthetics would be passed around.

> Now, we have never made it a secret that I breastfed our three

boys,

> and for a long time (by American standards). So, they know that

> breasts are for feeding babies. Of course, *now* our boys know

that

> breasts can be cancerous. Lastly, they know that breasts are for

> sexuality.

> I know that the decision on whether my son goes to the class

will be

> OUR decision. However, I wanted the input on those on the list.

Would

> you want your 15-year-old son to go to a class about breast cancer

> where prosthetics would be shown? Men, do you think the

prosthetics

> would be " too much " for a boy with, er, hormones?

> TIA!

> -Frances

>

> M R Bartels ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^

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> Order Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com ------- (o o)

> Internet for $11.99/month ^#092389^ |ooOoo| >{ | }<

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>-Frances

I have an eighteen year old son and if I had the opportunity to

attend a class like you are describing I absolutely would take him

if he wanted to go. (I would have even done so 3 years ago) My son

is just as much a part of our family and just as scared as myself,

my husband and my daughters and he needs the information just as

much as the rest of us.

Perhaps I have some different perspective because my son has been

breeding, raising, showing, and even sometimes milking livestock

with 4-H for the last 5 years. So while he understands that there

is a sexual conotation for breasts he also understands fully the

functional purpose of the mammery gland. As far as the prosthesis

is concerned all he will see is a piece of silicon that looks

somewhat like a breast.

in Denver

> Hello,

> Ok, this note is directed to EVERYONE, but thought I would like

to

> especially want men's opinions.

> In a couple of weeks my husband and I are attending a breast

cancer

> care class. It is primarily for the caregiver and includes

education

> on treatments, surgery options, and basically what to expect as

the

> caregiver. My husband asked the " signup woman " if our oldest son

(age

> 15) would be welcomed. She said we would have to decide because

> prosthetics would be passed around.

> Now, we have never made it a secret that I breastfed our three

boys,

> and for a long time (by American standards). So, they know that

> breasts are for feeding babies. Of course, *now* our boys know

that

> breasts can be cancerous. Lastly, they know that breasts are for

> sexuality.

> I know that the decision on whether my son goes to the class

will be

> OUR decision. However, I wanted the input on those on the list.

Would

> you want your 15-year-old son to go to a class about breast cancer

> where prosthetics would be shown? Men, do you think the

prosthetics

> would be " too much " for a boy with, er, hormones?

> TIA!

> -Frances

>

> M R Bartels ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^

> http://www.RudolphsRabbitRanch.com Central Ohio | ^ - ^

> Order Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com ------- (o o)

> Internet for $11.99/month ^#092389^ |ooOoo| >{ | }<

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Quoting & nne Svihlik :

> I just sent this on to my husband as he is a moderator in the group.

>

> Personally, if you son wants to go I would let him go. Who knows

> somewhere down the line he may be able to help his wife or

> significant other should she run into problems.

I am thinking my son might have a more immediate use for the course

info. He would be my husband's " backup. " No, he can't drive, but

might be needed to call the doctor or " something " should I be too sick

to do so. On my first appointment my onc's office had me fill out a

list of whom they could talk to about my condition and I put my son on

that list.

-Frances

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Quoting & nne Svihlik :

> I just sent this on to my husband as he is a moderator in the group.

>

> Personally, if you son wants to go I would let him go. Who knows

> somewhere down the line he may be able to help his wife or

> significant other should she run into problems.

I am thinking my son might have a more immediate use for the course

info. He would be my husband's " backup. " No, he can't drive, but

might be needed to call the doctor or " something " should I be too sick

to do so. On my first appointment my onc's office had me fill out a

list of whom they could talk to about my condition and I put my son on

that list.

-Frances

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Order Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com ------- (o o)

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> Perhaps I have some different perspective because my son has been

> breeding, raising, showing, and even sometimes milking livestock

> with 4-H for the last 5 years. So while he understands that there

> is a sexual conotation for breasts he also understands fully the

> functional purpose of the mammery gland. As far as the prosthesis

I never thought of that. We've been raising rabbits for more than a

dozen years (most of those when we lived in Denver). My oldest often

has done the breeding (carrying the doe to the buck's cage). He's also

helped me sex ducks and geese.

Thanks for this insight.

-Frances

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Quoting sewmary28 :

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> Perhaps I have some different perspective because my son has been

> breeding, raising, showing, and even sometimes milking livestock

> with 4-H for the last 5 years. So while he understands that there

> is a sexual conotation for breasts he also understands fully the

> functional purpose of the mammery gland. As far as the prosthesis

I never thought of that. We've been raising rabbits for more than a

dozen years (most of those when we lived in Denver). My oldest often

has done the breeding (carrying the doe to the buck's cage). He's also

helped me sex ducks and geese.

Thanks for this insight.

-Frances

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Quoting sewmary28 :

>

> Perhaps I have some different perspective because my son has been

> breeding, raising, showing, and even sometimes milking livestock

> with 4-H for the last 5 years. So while he understands that there

> is a sexual conotation for breasts he also understands fully the

> functional purpose of the mammery gland. As far as the prosthesis

I never thought of that. We've been raising rabbits for more than a

dozen years (most of those when we lived in Denver). My oldest often

has done the breeding (carrying the doe to the buck's cage). He's also

helped me sex ducks and geese.

Thanks for this insight.

-Frances

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Hello,

My son would have wanted to go at that age and now, he is 27 now. Fact is fact,

he knows what breasts are for and how they are used. He knows you have cancer

and needs to know what is involved, how to take care of you and mostly even the

prosthetic needs to be seen, so he will know what it is and why it is used. My

son was never embarrassed about only thing about the female body, his wife was

very pleased about it as he would even buy her tampons or feminine products

without embarrassment. If it were my son, I'd bring him along.

My 2 cents worth,

Jolene

Would You? Especially Directed to Men on the Group

Hello,

Ok, this note is directed to EVERYONE, but thought I would like to

especially want men's opinions.

In a couple of weeks my husband and I are attending a breast cancer

care class. It is primarily for the caregiver and includes education

on treatments, surgery options, and basically what to expect as the

caregiver. My husband asked the " signup woman " if our oldest son (age

15) would be welcomed. She said we would have to decide because

prosthetics would be passed around.

Now, we have never made it a secret that I breastfed our three boys,

and for a long time (by American standards). So, they know that

breasts are for feeding babies. Of course, *now* our boys know that

breasts can be cancerous. Lastly, they know that breasts are for

sexuality.

I know that the decision on whether my son goes to the class will be

OUR decision. However, I wanted the input on those on the list. Would

you want your 15-year-old son to go to a class about breast cancer

where prosthetics would be shown? Men, do you think the prosthetics

would be " too much " for a boy with, er, hormones?

TIA!

-Frances

M R Bartels ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^

http://www.RudolphsRabbitRanch.com Central Ohio | ^ - ^

Order Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com ------- (o o)

Internet for $11.99/month ^#092389^ |ooOoo| >{ | }<

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> > Perhaps I have some different perspective because my son has

been

> > breeding, raising, showing, and even sometimes milking livestock

> > with 4-H for the last 5 years. So while he understands that

there

> > is a sexual conotation for breasts he also understands fully the

> > functional purpose of the mammery gland. As far as the

prosthesis

> I never thought of that. We've been raising rabbits for more

than a

> dozen years (most of those when we lived in Denver). My oldest

often

> has done the breeding (carrying the doe to the buck's cage). He's

also

> helped me sex ducks and geese.

> Thanks for this insight.

> -Frances

> M R Bartels ki0dz@... (((#))) ^ ^

> http://www.RudolphsRabbitRanch.com Central Ohio | ^ - ^

> Order Watkins Products www.watkinsonline.com ------- (o o)

> Internet for $11.99/month ^#092389^ |ooOoo| >{ | }<

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I think you need to consider what is best for him.

You know your son. This can be a tramatic time for a child (my mother

had b/c when I was a boy) as well as yourself. He will have his own

issues at this stressful time just as a husband does.

15 year old boys vary a lot (as a scout leader I have worked with

many). You must judge how robust your sons make up is. I am not as

worried about the physical part of things but rather the emotional

impact on your son.

Not all 15 year olds are ready to be thrust into a primary or

secondary care giver role. Obviously your son will be there to help

and support you but depending on the class it may be to focused on the

role of your partner and ignores the needs and fears of a child.

I suggest you find a group that supports the children of women with

breast cancer where he can learn how to support you in a manner

targeted to a son of 15.

You must help guide him to make the best choice for him, he may not be

ready or able to take on such a role as the course seems to suggest.

If he is ready, great but look to his needs and his ability to cope

with the situation.

While it would be great if he was able to participate and be of great

help and support to you, it would be tragic if he was not ready and

this pushed him to far.

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I think you need to consider what is best for him.

You know your son. This can be a tramatic time for a child (my mother

had b/c when I was a boy) as well as yourself. He will have his own

issues at this stressful time just as a husband does.

15 year old boys vary a lot (as a scout leader I have worked with

many). You must judge how robust your sons make up is. I am not as

worried about the physical part of things but rather the emotional

impact on your son.

Not all 15 year olds are ready to be thrust into a primary or

secondary care giver role. Obviously your son will be there to help

and support you but depending on the class it may be to focused on the

role of your partner and ignores the needs and fears of a child.

I suggest you find a group that supports the children of women with

breast cancer where he can learn how to support you in a manner

targeted to a son of 15.

You must help guide him to make the best choice for him, he may not be

ready or able to take on such a role as the course seems to suggest.

If he is ready, great but look to his needs and his ability to cope

with the situation.

While it would be great if he was able to participate and be of great

help and support to you, it would be tragic if he was not ready and

this pushed him to far.

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I think you need to consider what is best for him.

You know your son. This can be a tramatic time for a child (my mother

had b/c when I was a boy) as well as yourself. He will have his own

issues at this stressful time just as a husband does.

15 year old boys vary a lot (as a scout leader I have worked with

many). You must judge how robust your sons make up is. I am not as

worried about the physical part of things but rather the emotional

impact on your son.

Not all 15 year olds are ready to be thrust into a primary or

secondary care giver role. Obviously your son will be there to help

and support you but depending on the class it may be to focused on the

role of your partner and ignores the needs and fears of a child.

I suggest you find a group that supports the children of women with

breast cancer where he can learn how to support you in a manner

targeted to a son of 15.

You must help guide him to make the best choice for him, he may not be

ready or able to take on such a role as the course seems to suggest.

If he is ready, great but look to his needs and his ability to cope

with the situation.

While it would be great if he was able to participate and be of great

help and support to you, it would be tragic if he was not ready and

this pushed him to far.

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