Re: having a nightmare with NHS Thanks

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Dear ,

Thank you so much for replying! I guess It doesn't help that I'm only 22 and so to them I'm practically still a child. I was made to feel like a complete idiot-it was probably one of the most humiliating experiences of my life!

Thanks so much for your support

Best Wishes

Josie

To: RT3_T3 From: s.macgilxrist@...Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 07:50:42 -0700Subject: Re: Nick-having a nightmare with NHS

Josie, I am pretty sure that you are legally entitled to self medicate in UK. When people have thyroid problems it gives them brain fog and this in turn makes them indecisive, lacking in confidence and vulnerable. This is why it is so easy for doctors to push thyroid patients around. Even if you had done something really stupid, shouting is an unprofessional and disproportionate reaction. An appropriate reaction would be to explain his thoughts. You should complain. He's entitled to his professional opinion. You are entitled to being addressed in a civil tone.

MacGilchrist

From: Josie <josiemillerlive (DOT) co.uk>To: rt3_t3 Sent: Mon, 15 March, 2010 15:21:30Subject: Nick-having a nightmare with NHS

Dear Nick,I'm SO sorry to keep bothering you but I have just got back from seeing my GP and he shouted at me and told me how dare I self medicate and pretty much threatened to ban me from his surgery. Would I be able to send an email to your personal email address to explain a bit more about what happened and ask your advice on how you have handled the NHS over the years? Its just I think I need to be careful as I understand when I reply to the group the content can be seen by everyone and I just don't want to get in any more trouble with the NHS I would be so grateful if you felt that you would be able to help Josie

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Hi ,

Thank you for that, thats made me feel a lot better to know they can't really refuse to treat me!

Ok then probably best then to get my dad to go with me! I felt like saying to my Dr. 'Well what would you do if your child was this ill and was told by EVERY doctor to JUST LIVE WITH IT surely you would go anywhere, try everything, pay any amount of money to get them better'

Wished in hindsight I had said that instead of crying!

Thanks good luck with your journey to health

Josie

To: RT3_T3 From: s.macgilxrist@...Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:28:40 -0700Subject: Re: having a nightmare with NHS Thanks Margery

If anything goes wrong you are still entitled to treatment on the NHS. Any foreigner that turns up in UK taking a treatment prescribed by a foreign doctor is entitled to treatment on the NHS in the case of an emergency. It is not because you have not been followed by an NHS doctor that you forfeit your right to treatment of any kind. You must stop thinking that you have done something wrong and concentrate on your doctor's obligations to you in his rôle as a public service worker.

You should get someone to go to your next appointment with you if you feel intimidated (best if it's a male member of your family in my opinion!). My sister goes to see my step-mother's specialist with her so it must be possible.

I let myself get pushed around by docs in the beginning of my thyroid problems because I was too fogged up to think straight or even ask questions and I am old enough to be your mother. Look upon this doctor's bad manners as part of a learning process and don't let it get you down. You don't have to put up with this.

Take care and good luck with all this business.

MacG.

From: Josie <josiemillerlive (DOT) co.uk>To: rt3_t3 Sent: Mon, 15 March, 2010 16:12:27Subject: RE: having a nightmare with NHS Thanks Margery

Thanks Margery for sharing your experience it helps me to see I not alone. I guess I'm just worried if anything goes wrong whilst I'm on T3 I won't have any support from a medic and can't get accesc to blood tests etc Thank you so much for your supportJosie

To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) comFrom: m.escoffery@ sbcglobal. netDate: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:00:04 +0000Subject: Re: Nick-having a nightmare with NHS

Josie, one of my doctors "fired" me as a patient after I told her I was self treating. If she'd come up with an effective treatment, I wouldn't have had to self-treat, would I? My desperation to resort to self-treatment was a direct result of her failure to help me, and she knew it. Nick is right about insecure doctors. I treated my medical problem better than my doctor did, and she just couldn't stand that.Whatever else is going on, doctors have no business shouting at patients. It is unprofessional. If they're worried you're doing something dangerous, they can be emphatic about it, but a doctor who is shouting at a patient has lost control of both himself and the situation.>> > Dear Nick,> > I'm SO sorry to keep bothering you but I have just got back from seeing my GP and he shouted at me and told me how dare I self medicate and pretty much threatened to ban me from his surgery.> > > > Would I be able to send an email to your personal email address to explain a bit more about what happened and ask your advice on how you have handled the NHS over the years? Its just I think I need to be careful as I understand when I reply to the group the content can be seen by everyone and I just don't want to get in any more trouble with the NHS> > > > I would be so grateful if you felt that you would be able to help> > > > Josie > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> Got a cool Hotmail story? Tell us now> http://clk.atdmt. com/UKM/go/ 195013117/ direct/01/>

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Hi ,

Thank you for that, thats made me feel a lot better to know they can't really refuse to treat me!

Ok then probably best then to get my dad to go with me! I felt like saying to my Dr. 'Well what would you do if your child was this ill and was told by EVERY doctor to JUST LIVE WITH IT surely you would go anywhere, try everything, pay any amount of money to get them better'

Wished in hindsight I had said that instead of crying!

Thanks good luck with your journey to health

Josie

To: RT3_T3 From: s.macgilxrist@...Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:28:40 -0700Subject: Re: having a nightmare with NHS Thanks Margery

If anything goes wrong you are still entitled to treatment on the NHS. Any foreigner that turns up in UK taking a treatment prescribed by a foreign doctor is entitled to treatment on the NHS in the case of an emergency. It is not because you have not been followed by an NHS doctor that you forfeit your right to treatment of any kind. You must stop thinking that you have done something wrong and concentrate on your doctor's obligations to you in his rôle as a public service worker.

You should get someone to go to your next appointment with you if you feel intimidated (best if it's a male member of your family in my opinion!). My sister goes to see my step-mother's specialist with her so it must be possible.

I let myself get pushed around by docs in the beginning of my thyroid problems because I was too fogged up to think straight or even ask questions and I am old enough to be your mother. Look upon this doctor's bad manners as part of a learning process and don't let it get you down. You don't have to put up with this.

Take care and good luck with all this business.

MacG.

From: Josie <josiemillerlive (DOT) co.uk>To: rt3_t3 Sent: Mon, 15 March, 2010 16:12:27Subject: RE: having a nightmare with NHS Thanks Margery

Thanks Margery for sharing your experience it helps me to see I not alone. I guess I'm just worried if anything goes wrong whilst I'm on T3 I won't have any support from a medic and can't get accesc to blood tests etc Thank you so much for your supportJosie

To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) comFrom: m.escoffery@ sbcglobal. netDate: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:00:04 +0000Subject: Re: Nick-having a nightmare with NHS

Josie, one of my doctors "fired" me as a patient after I told her I was self treating. If she'd come up with an effective treatment, I wouldn't have had to self-treat, would I? My desperation to resort to self-treatment was a direct result of her failure to help me, and she knew it. Nick is right about insecure doctors. I treated my medical problem better than my doctor did, and she just couldn't stand that.Whatever else is going on, doctors have no business shouting at patients. It is unprofessional. If they're worried you're doing something dangerous, they can be emphatic about it, but a doctor who is shouting at a patient has lost control of both himself and the situation.>> > Dear Nick,> > I'm SO sorry to keep bothering you but I have just got back from seeing my GP and he shouted at me and told me how dare I self medicate and pretty much threatened to ban me from his surgery.> > > > Would I be able to send an email to your personal email address to explain a bit more about what happened and ask your advice on how you have handled the NHS over the years? Its just I think I need to be careful as I understand when I reply to the group the content can be seen by everyone and I just don't want to get in any more trouble with the NHS> > > > I would be so grateful if you felt that you would be able to help> > > > Josie > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> Got a cool Hotmail story? Tell us now> http://clk.atdmt. com/UKM/go/ 195013117/ direct/01/>

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Hi ,

Thank you for that, thats made me feel a lot better to know they can't really refuse to treat me!

Ok then probably best then to get my dad to go with me! I felt like saying to my Dr. 'Well what would you do if your child was this ill and was told by EVERY doctor to JUST LIVE WITH IT surely you would go anywhere, try everything, pay any amount of money to get them better'

Wished in hindsight I had said that instead of crying!

Thanks good luck with your journey to health

Josie

To: RT3_T3 From: s.macgilxrist@...Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:28:40 -0700Subject: Re: having a nightmare with NHS Thanks Margery

If anything goes wrong you are still entitled to treatment on the NHS. Any foreigner that turns up in UK taking a treatment prescribed by a foreign doctor is entitled to treatment on the NHS in the case of an emergency. It is not because you have not been followed by an NHS doctor that you forfeit your right to treatment of any kind. You must stop thinking that you have done something wrong and concentrate on your doctor's obligations to you in his rôle as a public service worker.

You should get someone to go to your next appointment with you if you feel intimidated (best if it's a male member of your family in my opinion!). My sister goes to see my step-mother's specialist with her so it must be possible.

I let myself get pushed around by docs in the beginning of my thyroid problems because I was too fogged up to think straight or even ask questions and I am old enough to be your mother. Look upon this doctor's bad manners as part of a learning process and don't let it get you down. You don't have to put up with this.

Take care and good luck with all this business.

MacG.

From: Josie <josiemillerlive (DOT) co.uk>To: rt3_t3 Sent: Mon, 15 March, 2010 16:12:27Subject: RE: having a nightmare with NHS Thanks Margery

Thanks Margery for sharing your experience it helps me to see I not alone. I guess I'm just worried if anything goes wrong whilst I'm on T3 I won't have any support from a medic and can't get accesc to blood tests etc Thank you so much for your supportJosie

To: RT3_T3yahoogroups (DOT) comFrom: m.escoffery@ sbcglobal. netDate: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:00:04 +0000Subject: Re: Nick-having a nightmare with NHS

Josie, one of my doctors "fired" me as a patient after I told her I was self treating. If she'd come up with an effective treatment, I wouldn't have had to self-treat, would I? My desperation to resort to self-treatment was a direct result of her failure to help me, and she knew it. Nick is right about insecure doctors. I treated my medical problem better than my doctor did, and she just couldn't stand that.Whatever else is going on, doctors have no business shouting at patients. It is unprofessional. If they're worried you're doing something dangerous, they can be emphatic about it, but a doctor who is shouting at a patient has lost control of both himself and the situation.>> > Dear Nick,> > I'm SO sorry to keep bothering you but I have just got back from seeing my GP and he shouted at me and told me how dare I self medicate and pretty much threatened to ban me from his surgery.> > > > Would I be able to send an email to your personal email address to explain a bit more about what happened and ask your advice on how you have handled the NHS over the years? Its just I think I need to be careful as I understand when I reply to the group the content can be seen by everyone and I just don't want to get in any more trouble with the NHS> > > > I would be so grateful if you felt that you would be able to help> > > > Josie > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _> Got a cool Hotmail story? Tell us now> http://clk.atdmt. com/UKM/go/ 195013117/ direct/01/>

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Hi Josie,

I'm a UK resident and haven't been to see my doc about my thyroid/adrenals for 3

years now. He's not bad, but just doesn't know about it, and the endo didn't

know about it as well.

My view is

1. It's my body and I have the right to choose my own treatment.

2. I pay my taxes and so I feel that they work for me.

3. The NHS must treat me if I fall ill, and I will not tolerate anyone treating

me with disrespect. There are perfectly reasonable ways to convey a point across

without being aggressive, and you might consider reporting him.

4. As others have said, you can get blood tests done privately.

I'm a little cross myself now -grrrr! They sound like a right bully.

You are in the right, you've done nothing wrong and at the end of the day it's

you that has to live in your body, not them.

We're here to support you, whatever the doc says. I'm just about to start my own

RT3 treatment, my T3 arrived today. Fingers crossed.

Rod

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> Hi ,

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> Thank you for that, thats made me feel a lot better to know they can't really

refuse to treat me!

>

>

>

> Ok then probably best then to get my dad to go with me! I felt like saying to

my Dr. 'Well what would you do if your child was this ill and was told by EVERY

doctor to JUST LIVE WITH IT surely you would go anywhere, try everything, pay

any amount of money to get them better'

>

> Wished in hindsight I had said that instead of crying!

>

>

>

> Thanks good luck with your journey to health

>

> Josie

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When I was age 22, I unquestioningly did whatever the doctors told me. I've

been paying dearly for it for twenty five years now.

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> Dear ,

>

> Thank you so much for replying! I guess It doesn't help that I'm only 22 and

so to them I'm practically still a child. I was made to feel like a complete

idiot-it was probably one of the most humiliating experiences of my life!

>

>

>

> Thanks so much for your support

>

> Best Wishes

>

> Josie

>

>

>

> To: RT3_T3

> From: s.macgilxrist@...

> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 07:50:42 -0700

> Subject: Re: Nick-having a nightmare with NHS

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> Josie, I am pretty sure that you are legally entitled to self medicate in UK.

When people have thyroid problems it gives them brain fog and this in turn makes

them indecisive, lacking in confidence and vulnerable. This is why it is so

easy for doctors to push thyroid patients around. Even if you had done

something really stupid, shouting is an unprofessional and disproportionate

reaction. An appropriate reaction would be to explain his thoughts. You should

complain. He's entitled to his professional opinion. You are entitled to being

addressed in a civil tone.

> MacGilchrist

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> To: rt3_t3

> Sent: Mon, 15 March, 2010 15:21:30

> Subject: Nick-having a nightmare with NHS

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> Dear Nick,

> I'm SO sorry to keep bothering you but I have just got back from seeing my GP

and he shouted at me and told me how dare I self medicate and pretty much

threatened to ban me from his surgery.

>

> Would I be able to send an email to your personal email address to explain a

bit more about what happened and ask your advice on how you have handled the NHS

over the years? Its just I think I need to be careful as I understand when I

reply to the group the content can be seen by everyone and I just don't want to

get in any more trouble with the NHS

>

> I would be so grateful if you felt that you would be able to help

>

> Josie

>

>

>

>

>

> Got a cool Hotmail story? Tell us now

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"When I was age 22, I unquestioningly did whatever the doctors told me. I've been paying dearly for it for twenty five years now."

I can second that! And I mean to the exact numbers! lol! Josie you go Girl! I'm very impressed that someone at your young age is starting to take the medical bull by the horns. It is unquestionably YOUR body and yelling or attempting to intimidate and/or humiliate is NOT acceptable behavior from someone supposedly trained to help people.

I hope you are soon able to find a better, more compassionate person to help you on your journey to improved health.

M

[Guest guest]

"When I was age 22, I unquestioningly did whatever the doctors told me. I've been paying dearly for it for twenty five years now."

I can second that! And I mean to the exact numbers! lol! Josie you go Girl! I'm very impressed that someone at your young age is starting to take the medical bull by the horns. It is unquestionably YOUR body and yelling or attempting to intimidate and/or humiliate is NOT acceptable behavior from someone supposedly trained to help people.

I hope you are soon able to find a better, more compassionate person to help you on your journey to improved health.

M