Guest guest Posted March 27, 2002 Report Share Posted March 27, 2002 Have her call this number 781/275/1425 ask for linda, tell your freind that MIlk Direxct told her to call. They werte setting up a cow share program in Cambridge. Tim L wrote: > I've got a friend who is transitioning out of veganism > and into NT (oh frabjous day), and she has a question > about rice milk. She understands that soy milk is a > bad idea, but has no access to raw dairy milk. Is > commercial rice milk okay, or at least the lesser of > two evils? I'm going to send her the NT rice milk > recipe, but I know she also needs stuff she can just > buy. > Also, she lives in Boston and doesn't have a car. > Do any of you Boston folks have any kind of milk pool > that she could join? > Thanks. > Lierre > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2002 Report Share Posted March 27, 2002 > Is commercial rice milk okay, or at least the lesser of two evils? I don't think there's anything terribly wrong with rice milk, but there isn't much right with it either. It's not very nutritionally dense unless you get a fortified version...and we're all familiar with the problems with fortification. They also tend to have added vegetable oil...usually safflower or sunflower I think. This causes them to be rather high in omega 6 PUFAs. There's little protein; what protein there is lacks many critical amino acids. I used to use Rice Dream, but those were the bad old days. I don't intend to ever return to them... To summarize -- Benefits of Raw Milk -------------------- * Saturated fat * Decent balance of omega6/omega3 * Complete proteins in significant quantity * High in some minerals * High in enzymes * Contains Conjugated Linoleic Acid which is a powerful cancer fighter * Promotes beneficial intestinal bacteria by both providing the bacteria and an ideal food for them (lactose) * Not processed, never sat on a shelf, didn't go through three to ten " middle men " on the way to your kitchen, didn't use untold fossil fuels being transported over half the planet, doesn't use plastics or paper packaging, puts a greater percentage of your money in the farmers pocket and the local economy, contributes to economic decentralization, .... Benefits of Rice Milk --------------------- * Source of calories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2002 Report Share Posted March 27, 2002 Hiya Lierre, Hmm, its been a good week for the vegan community in boston. FWIW, I advised my friend at work to make nut milks the NT way and emailed her the recipe. While nut milks are not ideal, I think the last thing a recovering vegan needs is more carbs. Hmm, I think it was you that pointed that out Also, there is the commercially available amasake, a fermented almond milk (I don't know if its pastuerized or not). The milk direct program is news to me - I'm interested in checking that out myself. When I get home today I'll email you some of the not- quite-local raw milk sources and whatnot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2002 Report Share Posted March 27, 2002 I used to use the Pacific brand of rice milk, which has no added PUFA oil, in some of the versions, and also has a couple of lactobacilli types added. I don't know if those lactobacilli were actually active-live or not (perhaps not), but for what it's worth, they're in the ingredient list. Perhaps if she added, say, coconut oil to the rice milk, it would begin to be of value. Glad I have a source of raw cow's milk instead (although sadly my son still pines for the sweeter rice milk he had as a toddler)! Good to hear of your friend, the vegan-turning- " traditionalist " ! This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2002 Report Share Posted March 27, 2002 ----- Original Message ----- From: " justinbond " <justin_bond@...> < > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 8:31 AM Subject: Re: rice milk > Hmm, its been a good week for the vegan community in boston. FWIW, I > advised my friend at work to make nut milks the NT way and emailed > her the recipe. While nut milks are not ideal, I think the last thing > a recovering vegan needs is more carbs. Hmm, I think it was you that > pointed that out Also, there is the commercially available > amasake, a fermented almond milk (I don't know if its pastuerized or > not). Amazake is made from brown rice, though there is at least one company that sells almond-flavored amazake. As the name suggests ( " ama " means sweet), it has a fairly high sugar content. This brand has about three times as much sugar as cow's milk. http://www.grainaissance.com/amazake.html Berg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2002 Report Share Posted March 27, 2002 thanks for the clarification. I had no idea that they added sugar, but in hindsight I'm not surprised at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2002 Report Share Posted March 27, 2002 > thanks for the clarification. I had no idea that they added sugar, > but in hindsight I'm not surprised at all. I don't think that they *add* sugar, but they do use the koji culture to enzymatically convert virtually all of the starch in the rice to sugar -- similar to malting. Net effect is largely the same, but at least it's not refined.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2002 Report Share Posted March 27, 2002 >From: " justinbond " <justin_bond@...> >thanks for the clarification. I had no idea that they added sugar, >but in hindsight I'm not surprised at all. There's no context here, but I assume you're talking about amazake. I don't think that they do add sugar. Rather, the starches in the rice are converted to simple sugars. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2008 Report Share Posted May 19, 2008 Thank you so much for succeeding in getting the information. I should have looked back on my own information and I would have seen that it says barley and not wheat. Still, the fact remains that it has barley in it. That alone makes me not want to use it. They say it is safe, that it meets the standard (in fact below the standard to the point of the lowest detectable level). I will just continue to use a competitors product to insure that I am safe. Thanks again for going to the trouble and effort of getting the information. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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