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Iron Binding Capacity 205 Low ( 250-450)

UIBC 126 Low (150-375)

Iron, serum 79 (35 _155)

Iron Saturation 39 (15-55)

Ferritan 271

These are strange indeed. I did a web search and it seems ACTH can lower UIBC

and TIBC. Which would indicate oyu have high ACTH again. That is all I could

find that might apply, but I woudl not try to take more iron with these labs.

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Iron Binding Capacity 205 Low ( 250-450)

UIBC 126 Low (150-375)

Iron, serum 79 (35 _155)

Iron Saturation 39 (15-55)

Ferritan 271

These are strange indeed. I did a web search and it seems ACTH can lower UIBC

and TIBC. Which would indicate oyu have high ACTH again. That is all I could

find that might apply, but I woudl not try to take more iron with these labs.

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What does high ACTH mean? Do I need to lower the cortef?

>

> Iron Binding Capacity 205 Low ( 250-450)

> UIBC 126 Low (150-375)

> Iron, serum 79 (35 _155)

> Iron Saturation 39 (15-55)

>

> Ferritan 271

>

> These are strange indeed. I did a web search and it seems ACTH can lower UIBC

and TIBC. Which would indicate oyu have high ACTH again. That is all I could

find that might apply, but I woudl not try to take more iron with these labs.

>

> --

> Artistic Grooming- Hurricane WV

>

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

>

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/NaturalThyroidHormonesADRENALS/

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RT3_T3/

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HypoPets/

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I typed this up once, but it disappeared. Hopefully it's not a repeat.

I started taking cynomel last July. I have never been on any thyroid

medicine before. Two weeks ago I was taking 25 mcg every three hours. I have

not felt rT3 clear. Realized two weeks ago my ferritin level is only 31. I

am now taking 12.5 mcg of cynomel 4 times a day and have starting

supplementing with iron. When I had the blood drawn, I did not realize how

pertinent it was to have an iron panel and test for sodium and potassium, so

I don't have a current lab on that. This month's test are first, followed by

April, 2009. I also included the other 3 tests to find out if there is any

connection with the thyroid. I am on a grain free diet, so my chiro doesn't

understand why my A1C would be elevated. The cardiac inflammation doesn't

make sense either, unless it's because of the low vit. D levels. The vit. D

levels don't make sense either. I have been supplementing with 6,000 IU for

a year. I'm now on 8,000.

Lab from 4/2010

TSH <.006

T4 .8

T3 Uptake 26

Free T4 .2

rT3 33

A1C 5.8

C Reactive Protein, Cardiac 3.10

Vit. D 37.8

Lab from 4/2009

TSH 2.028

T4 7.3

T3 Uptake 31

Free T4 2.3

rT3 348

Iron, Serum 98

Iron Saturation 28

Ferritin 31

Sodium 134

Potassium 4.0

A1C 5.6

C Reactive Protein, Cardiac 3.06

Vit. D 10.4

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STacy it took me a YEAR on 10,000IU Vitamin D to raise form 27 to 100. I

now maintina ion 5000IU a day. I get Puritain Pride 5000IU soft gels and

they work finew just it takes ALOT of Vitamin D to raise from the low

levels. Grains are not the only things thta affect glucose. Your A1c is

bumpingon Diabetic ans definitely pre-Diabetic so you bnetter get

serious with ALL carbs. Read labels! There are carbs where oyu would

never dream of them. I ahve been Diabetic for abotu 4 years and now have

a lovely 5.2 A1c but I am on insulin as mine was let go by my doctor

just as yours is. You shouldbe on Metformin at least NOW. Low glycemic

carbs do not work for me either I keep my cabrs under 70G a day. And for

the first 8 months I weighed every bit of food I ate and got to knwo

exactly what every food I ate did to my glucose. Get a meter if you

dont; have one already. I cna help you get stabel and teach you how to

use the readings and when to take them that wil be meaningful. For iron

you will need 150-200mg a day od elemental iron it si ALOT but that is

what it takes to raise iron levels. It is a shame all this wasted time

to have to literally restart now but at least you have a reason things

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Val recently introduced me to the idea of counting carbs. So when I read your typical daily menu, I immediately thought to say this: you'll be surprised how many carbs there are in the foods you've described here. Beans, salsa, carrots, raisins, lentils. It all sounds very healthy, but it's also carbolicious. Like you, I prepare everything from scratch, eat whole foods, nothing processed or pre-made. But I've recently learned that "mostly fruits and veggies" means lots of carbs. I was shocked. There are plenty of carb counters online, so you can see for yourself.

Peggy

RE: new labs

Thanks for the insight. I mainly eat whole foods. I rarely eat processed, pre-made foods. I make everything from scratch. I would say 90% of the time I eat fruits and veggies. Basically there are no labels to read. This morning I made a green smoothie for breakfast. Lunch was burrito filling (no tortilla), just beans, cilantro, salsa, and a bit of cheese. I also had some coleslaw (vinger based dressing, not mayo based), and some carrot raisin salad. Dinner will be sloppy lentils (no bun), cole slaw, and probably roasted brussel sprouts (with olive oil and balsamic vinegar). That menu is pretty typical. But, I am struggling with eating sweets. Right now I so want to find some chocolate! That's why I had the carrot raisin salad! I really think if I break this addiction, AGAIN, the A1C will come down.

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Yes, I realize I have some things in my diet that are high in

carbs, but I'm trying to eliminate my current candy addiction. When I'm craving

sweets, I think it's better to eat carrot raisin salad than hersheys! LOL! It's

also hard when you don't eat meat to not have beans and lentils in your diet.

It would probably also be helpful to do some food logs. I'm probably eating

more of these items than I realize!

Thanks for the input!

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RT3_T3 [mailto:RT3_T3 ] On Behalf Of T

Walters

Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:03 PM

To: RT3_T3

Subject: Re: new labs

,

Val

recently introduced me to the idea of counting carbs. So when I read your

typical daily menu, I immediately thought to say this: you'll be

surprised how many carbs there are in the foods you've described here.

Beans, salsa, carrots, raisins, lentils. It all sounds very healthy, but

it's also carbolicious. Like you, I prepare everything from scratch, eat

whole foods, nothing processed or pre-made. But I've recently learned

that " mostly fruits and veggies " means lots of carbs. I was

shocked. There are plenty of carb counters online, so you can see for

yourself.

Peggy

-----

Original Message -----

From: Finch Drake

To: RT3_T3

Sent: Wednesday, April 21,

2010 12:39 PM

Subject: RE: new

labs

Thanks for the insight. I mainly eat

whole foods. I rarely eat processed, pre-made foods. I make everything from

scratch. I would say 90% of the time I eat fruits and veggies. Basically there

are no labels to read. This morning I made a green smoothie for breakfast.

Lunch was burrito filling (no tortilla), just beans, cilantro, salsa, and a bit

of cheese. I also had some coleslaw (vinger based dressing, not mayo based),

and some carrot raisin salad. Dinner will be sloppy lentils (no bun), cole

slaw, and probably roasted brussel sprouts (with olive oil and balsamic

vinegar). That menu is pretty typical. But, I am struggling with eating sweets.

Right now I so want to find some chocolate! That's why I had the carrot raisin

salad! I really think if I break this addiction, AGAIN, the A1C will come down.

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Have you tried Larabars? Check them out at Vitacost or iHerb. Raw, vegan, no processed sugars, everything organic including the cocoa. Tastes like a brownie. The label on mine says 10 g fat, 5 g protein, 24 g carbs. That may be a lot of carbs, but probably not more than carrot-raisin salad, And at least it's not candy with processed sugar. The ingredients in mine: dates, almonds, walnuts, cocoa, cashews--all organic. The sweetness comes from the dates. Extremely yummy. They come in at least a dozen flavors.

Yes, I've just started a food log, too--and counting carbs on every meal and snack.

Peggy

RE: new labs

Thanks for the insight. I mainly eat whole foods. I rarely eat processed, pre-made foods. I make everything from scratch. I would say 90% of the time I eat fruits and veggies. Basically there are no labels to read. This morning I made a green smoothie for breakfast. Lunch was burrito filling (no tortilla), just beans, cilantro, salsa, and a bit of cheese. I also had some coleslaw (vinger based dressing, not mayo based), and some carrot raisin salad. Dinner will be sloppy lentils (no bun), cole slaw, and probably roasted brussel sprouts (with olive oil and balsamic vinegar). That menu is pretty typical. But, I am struggling with eating sweets. Right now I so want to find some chocolate! That's why I had the carrot raisin salad! I really think if I break this addiction, AGAIN, the A1C will come down.

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I'm a huge Larabar fan. I sometimes have hypoglycemic attacks or simply get too busy to get lunch, so I keep one in my purse and several at my desk.

Flavors include Lemon, Cashew Cookie, Peanut Butter Cookie, Peanut Butter and Jelly, Apple Pie, Cherry Pie, Pecan Pie and several chocolate-based flavors, among others.

And, as Peggy mentions, very few ingredients -- mostly dates and nuts, some fruits -- no preservatives or chemicals. And very yummy!

Subject: Re: new labsTo: RT3_T3 Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 2:37 PM

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Have you tried Larabars? Check them out at Vitacost or iHerb. Raw, vegan, no processed sugars, everything organic including the cocoa. Tastes like a brownie. The label on mine says 10 g fat, 5 g protein, 24 g carbs. That may be a lot of carbs, but probably not more than carrot-raisin salad, And at least it's not candy with processed sugar. The ingredients in mine: dates, almonds, walnuts, cocoa, cashews--all organic. The sweetness comes from the dates. Extremely yummy. They come in at least a dozen flavors.

Yes, I've just started a food log, too--and counting carbs on every meal and snack.

Peggy

RE: new labs

Thanks for the insight. I mainly eat whole foods. I rarely eat processed, pre-made foods. I make everything from scratch. I would say 90% of the time I eat fruits and veggies. Basically there are no labels to read. This morning I made a green smoothie for breakfast. Lunch was burrito filling (no tortilla), just beans, cilantro, salsa, and a bit of cheese. I also had some coleslaw (vinger based dressing, not mayo based), and some carrot raisin salad. Dinner will be sloppy lentils (no bun), cole slaw, and probably roasted brussel sprouts (with olive oil and balsamic vinegar). That menu is pretty typical. But, I am struggling with eating sweets. Right now I so want to find some chocolate! That's why I had the carrot raisin salad! I really think if I break this addiction, AGAIN, the A1C will come down.

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I have not tried them, but I have heard of them. I'll check it

out. I picked up dates yesterday!

Thanks,

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Walters

Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 2:37 PM

To: RT3_T3

Subject: Re: new labs

,

Have

you tried Larabars? Check them out at Vitacost or iHerb. Raw,

vegan, no processed sugars, everything organic including the cocoa.

Tastes like a brownie. The label on mine says 10 g fat, 5 g protein, 24 g

carbs. That may be a lot of carbs, but probably not more than

carrot-raisin salad, And at least it's not candy with processed

sugar. The ingredients in mine: dates, almonds, walnuts, cocoa,

cashews--all organic. The sweetness comes from the dates. Extremely

yummy. They come in at least a dozen flavors.

Yes,

I've just started a food log, too--and counting carbs on every meal and snack.

Peggy

-----

Original Message -----

From: Finch Drake

To: RT3_T3

Sent: Wednesday, April 21,

2010 2:02 PM

Subject: RE: new

labs

Yes, I realize I have some things in my

diet that are high in carbs, but I'm trying to eliminate my current candy

addiction. When I'm craving sweets, I think it's better to eat carrot raisin

salad than hersheys! LOL! It's also hard when you don't eat meat to not have

beans and lentils in your diet. It would probably also be helpful to do some

food logs. I'm probably eating more of these items than I realize!

Thanks for the input!

From:

RT3_T3 [mailto:RT3_T3 ] On Behalf Of T

Walters

Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:03 PM

To: RT3_T3

Subject: Re: new labs

,

Val recently introduced me to the idea of counting

carbs. So when I read your typical daily menu, I immediately thought to

say this: you'll be surprised how many carbs there are in the foods

you've described here. Beans, salsa, carrots, raisins, lentils. It

all sounds very healthy, but it's also carbolicious. Like you, I prepare

everything from scratch, eat whole foods, nothing processed or pre-made.

But I've recently learned that " mostly fruits and veggies " means lots

of carbs. I was shocked. There are plenty of carb counters online,

so you can see for yourself.

Peggy

RE:

new labs

Thanks for the insight. I mainly eat

whole foods. I rarely eat processed, pre-made foods. I make everything from

scratch. I would say 90% of the time I eat fruits and veggies. Basically there

are no labels to read. This morning I made a green smoothie for breakfast.

Lunch was burrito filling (no tortilla), just beans, cilantro, salsa, and a bit

of cheese. I also had some coleslaw (vinger based dressing, not mayo based), and

some carrot raisin salad. Dinner will be sloppy lentils (no bun), cole slaw,

and probably roasted brussel sprouts (with olive oil and balsamic vinegar).

That menu is pretty typical. But, I am struggling with eating sweets. Right now

I so want to find some chocolate! That's why I had the carrot raisin salad! I

really think if I break this addiction, AGAIN, the A1C will come down.

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If you're on Adrenals Chat we can take this over there if you like. I just wanted to ask--I'm preparing an order from Vitacost and/or iHerb, and am very sorry to see that my preferred flavor, Jocolat Chocolate, has been discontinued. What?! Basic chocolate isn't available anymore? I really, really want a chocolate flavored bar, not the others. What are the best chocolate Larabars, in your opinion? I order by the box, so I really don't want to end up with 16 bars I'm not crazy about. Thanks.

Peggy

Re: new labs

I'm a huge Larabar fan. I sometimes have hypoglycemic attacks or simply get too busy to get lunch, so I keep one in my purse and several at my desk.

Flavors include Lemon, Cashew Cookie, Peanut Butter Cookie, Peanut Butter and Jelly, Apple Pie, Cherry Pie, Pecan Pie and several chocolate-based flavors, among others.

And, as Peggy mentions, very few ingredients -- mostly dates and nuts, some fruits -- no preservatives or chemicals. And very yummy!

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Actually carrot raisin salad is probbaly not any better tha Hershy bar.

Not eatign meat I really doubt you should do wiht Pre-Diabetes. It will

limit what you CAN eat. I live on meat eggs and cheese mostly. I fill up

on meats and fats then I do nto crae carbs. Fats are very satiating. I

hate to sound mean but you need to decide between a good diet and your

eyesight, limbs and eventually your organ funciton . High glucose

attacks all of these. The first thing I noticed was eyesight gettign

MUCH worse. I caught the neuropathy in time but talk to any Diabetic

that HAS this and you will reall yget scared. It is a miserable plague

that requires pain meds for life.

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That candy bar would cost me 25 units of Insulin.. more than I use for

my dinner. SOrry but Diabetic doeting is VERY hard to do and you need ot

make those carnbs you DO allow yourself count.

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VAl is right that FAT contributes to satiety. Believe me, if you eat a lot of

fat, you don't want to eat after a while.

Another thing is that carb craving can often be eliminated with increasing

serotonin by taking 5htp. I do this; it works great.

And of course blood sugar swings (caused by high carb eating...) also contribute

to carb craving -- so viscious cycle!

When I went to eating protein with fat every 3 hours (like a protein shake for

example, you can use rice protein with coconut milk in it for fat if you're

vegan) and took 5htp my carb cravings were GONE. And I've had major carb

cravings my entire life to the point of it creating an eating disorder. I used

to spen the entire night after after dinner always thinking about food or worse,

eating food! ;-)

Kathleen

>

> Yes, I realize I have some things in my diet that are high in carbs, but I'm

> trying to eliminate my current candy addiction. When I'm craving sweets, I

> think it's better to eat carrot raisin salad than hersheys! LOL! It's also

> hard when you don't eat meat to not have beans and lentils in your diet. It

> would probably also be helpful to do some food logs. I'm probably eating

> more of these items than I realize!

>

>

>

> Thanks for the input!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> From: RT3_T3 [mailto:RT3_T3 ] On Behalf Of T

> Walters

> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:03 PM

> To: RT3_T3

> Subject: Re: new labs

>

>

>

>

>

> ,

>

>

>

> Val recently introduced me to the idea of counting carbs. So when I read

> your typical daily menu, I immediately thought to say this: you'll be

> surprised how many carbs there are in the foods you've described here.

> Beans, salsa, carrots, raisins, lentils. It all sounds very healthy, but

> it's also carbolicious. Like you, I prepare everything from scratch, eat

> whole foods, nothing processed or pre-made. But I've recently learned that

> " mostly fruits and veggies " means lots of carbs. I was shocked. There are

> plenty of carb counters online, so you can see for yourself.

>

>

>

> Peggy

>

>

>

> RE: new labs

>

>

>

> Thanks for the insight. I mainly eat whole foods. I rarely eat processed,

> pre-made foods. I make everything from scratch. I would say 90% of the time

> I eat fruits and veggies. Basically there are no labels to read. This

> morning I made a green smoothie for breakfast. Lunch was burrito filling (no

> tortilla), just beans, cilantro, salsa, and a bit of cheese. I also had some

> coleslaw (vinger based dressing, not mayo based), and some carrot raisin

> salad. Dinner will be sloppy lentils (no bun), cole slaw, and probably

> roasted brussel sprouts (with olive oil and balsamic vinegar). That menu is

> pretty typical. But, I am struggling with eating sweets. Right now I so want

> to find some chocolate! That's why I had the carrot raisin salad! I really

> think if I break this addiction, AGAIN, the A1C will come down.

>

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It just dawned on me that for the first time in my life, because

of a ruptured disc, I have not been exercising daily! My mom's endo (she was

diabetic) told me the best way to prevent diabetes is to exercise every single

day. I haven't done that for the last year because I was only able to walk on flat

trails. I am definitely starting now that I am able to hike hills. (I live in

the foothills of the Blue Ridge.)

When I make a green smoothie in the morning I always add coconut

(raw unsweetened) or coconut oil. Coconut oil is great for metabolism and it

makes it filling.

It is a vicious cycle! When I'm trying to get off it I wonder

why I ever ate sugar to start with! And I think HFCS is the worst to get off of!

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RT3_T3 [mailto:RT3_T3 ] On Behalf Of keickholt13

Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:32 PM

To: RT3_T3

Subject: Re: new labs

VAl is right that FAT contributes to satiety.

Believe me, if you eat a lot of fat, you don't want to eat after a while.

Another thing is that carb craving can often be eliminated with increasing

serotonin by taking 5htp. I do this; it works great.

And of course blood sugar swings (caused by high carb eating...) also

contribute to carb craving -- so viscious cycle!

When I went to eating protein with fat every 3 hours (like a protein shake for

example, you can use rice protein with coconut milk in it for fat if you're

vegan) and took 5htp my carb cravings were GONE. And I've had major carb

cravings my entire life to the point of it creating an eating disorder. I used

to spen the entire night after after dinner always thinking about food or worse,

eating food! ;-)

Kathleen

>

> Yes, I realize I have some things in my diet that are high in carbs, but

I'm

> trying to eliminate my current candy addiction. When I'm craving sweets, I

> think it's better to eat carrot raisin salad than hersheys! LOL! It's also

> hard when you don't eat meat to not have beans and lentils in your diet.

It

> would probably also be helpful to do some food logs. I'm probably eating

> more of these items than I realize!

>

>

>

> Thanks for the input!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> From: RT3_T3

[mailto:RT3_T3 ]

On Behalf Of T

> Walters

> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 1:03 PM

> To: RT3_T3

> Subject: Re: new labs

>

>

>

>

>

> ,

>

>

>

> Val recently introduced me to the idea of counting carbs. So when I read

> your typical daily menu, I immediately thought to say this: you'll be

> surprised how many carbs there are in the foods you've described here.

> Beans, salsa, carrots, raisins, lentils. It all sounds very healthy, but

> it's also carbolicious. Like you, I prepare everything from scratch, eat

> whole foods, nothing processed or pre-made. But I've recently learned that

> " mostly fruits and veggies " means lots of carbs. I was shocked.

There are

> plenty of carb counters online, so you can see for yourself.

>

>

>

> Peggy

>

>

>

> RE: new labs

>

>

>

> Thanks for the insight. I mainly eat whole foods. I rarely eat processed,

> pre-made foods. I make everything from scratch. I would say 90% of the

time

> I eat fruits and veggies. Basically there are no labels to read. This

> morning I made a green smoothie for breakfast. Lunch was burrito filling

(no

> tortilla), just beans, cilantro, salsa, and a bit of cheese. I also had

some

> coleslaw (vinger based dressing, not mayo based), and some carrot raisin

> salad. Dinner will be sloppy lentils (no bun), cole slaw, and probably

> roasted brussel sprouts (with olive oil and balsamic vinegar). That menu

is

> pretty typical. But, I am struggling with eating sweets. Right now I so want

> to find some chocolate! That's why I had the carrot raisin salad! I really

> think if I break this addiction, AGAIN, the A1C will come down.

>

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