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<< She says that she has

not started on it. I just wondering how long the process is going to

take. >>

Hi, ! I seem to remember someone posting that Debbie is struggling

with a patient backload of 50-some patients right now. She's probably going

to have a little longer turnaround time for getting things FAXED to the

insurance companies. She's really good about calling to let us know that

she's sent the packet to the insurance so that you can start your calling

campaign the following week to track its progress. She only has part-time

help right now. I know that it's difficult to wait for all the paperwork and

the insurance people. Can you do other little things for getting ready while

you wait for the paperwork? (Pack your hospital bag, sort closets, drawers,

stock your pantry and freezer for things you'll need to eat after surgery,

etc.?) It sure helped me to do some " nesting " while I waited. Dee in MI.

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<< She says that she has

not started on it. I just wondering how long the process is going to

take. >>

Hi, ! I seem to remember someone posting that Debbie is struggling

with a patient backload of 50-some patients right now. She's probably going

to have a little longer turnaround time for getting things FAXED to the

insurance companies. She's really good about calling to let us know that

she's sent the packet to the insurance so that you can start your calling

campaign the following week to track its progress. She only has part-time

help right now. I know that it's difficult to wait for all the paperwork and

the insurance people. Can you do other little things for getting ready while

you wait for the paperwork? (Pack your hospital bag, sort closets, drawers,

stock your pantry and freezer for things you'll need to eat after surgery,

etc.?) It sure helped me to do some " nesting " while I waited. Dee in MI.

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To: MiniGastricBypassonelist

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Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:33:55 EST

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I would like to chat on-line with some of you that have already had the

surgery. If anyone is interested I have aol instant messanger capabilities.

Please e-mail me and we can set up a time to chat. Thanks.

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I've heard of the pseudo pouch only recently. She had a VBG, though,

originally.

As to the body trying to normalize, yes, have heard of that frequently. The

common channel will often stretch longer & wider to try to " reach " for the

nutrition it has not been getting. We don't see it with the well supplemented

people much, but with the ones done elsewhere more often. And the pouch

stretching way, way out, yes. The body will try to right itself. Which is why

we try to fool it with lots 'n lots of protein & water, so it thinks it is Rich

Beyond Words with what it needs.

Dr Carolyn could explain it better, but I know she has a " code id her dose "

today, so may not be up to typing more than a few words.

Thanks,

www.vitalady.com

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> hey there all of you........

> has anyone heard of or know why a person gets a suto pouch or an elongated

> intestine and starts to gain their weight back......i have heard of this

> happening......and was wondering about it.......

> thanks

>

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>

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Blanche,

Ralph, you and your family are all in my prayers. This is a very hard time

for all of you. Yet you are correct that God will help all of you through

this. Most importantly know that none of you are alone. No matter how hard

things seem, you can always turn to others for acceptance, support and love.

Regards,

=jbf=

B. Fisher

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Blanche,

It sounds like you're doing all you can to honor your husband's wishes. It

can be a very hard and painful thing to do. I hope you have lots of family

and friends close by to you for support. Please know you're in my thoughts

and prayers. Smiles and hugs, Diane

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> To all

> Ralph has ask for all med,s to be removed and has refused or spit them

out

> when given to him.

> H e is total care!!!!

> Has a living will. THE CHILDREN AND I HAVE GRANTED HIM HIS WISHES.

> Will only use comfort care ordered by the Dr.

> has had sds over 17 years . has had a heart patch on since april to keep

his

> heart

> going. and has had the nurse remove his bowls as he has no muscles

> no therpy works and he has had alot.

> So with Gods help he will see us through .

> Yesterday i said i would be back in a couple hours . told him i loved him

> and he said now don,t cry it will only make it worst.

>

>

> Wish all of you a good day Blanche

>

>

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Is your husband taking amantadine? My husband Rob oten complains

that it makes him have chills and goose bunps. I believe it is a

known side effect of the medication. I think that the illness itself

can also cause problems with temperature regualtion.

There are a few ways to contribute to research toward a better

understanding and hopefully a cure for MSA. You can contribute to

the Vanderbilt Autonomic Lab, to NORD (the National Organization for

Rare Diseases, www.rarediseases.org) or to the Mayo Clinic. Here in

Boston, MA, we are contributing to the Center for Autonomic and

Peripheral Disorders at Beth Israel Deaconess Hospital. Our family

has recently started a family foundation, and we are actively looking

for the best way to further research in thei area. I will be glad to

share whatever I find out.

Welcome to the list, and I hope we can help you and your husband deal

with this terrible illness.

Carol & Rob, Lexington, MA

> I just subscribed to the shy drager site and I am a

relative " beginner " at

> posting and receiving messages and culling thru to what I think are

the

> essentials. My husband was diagnosed with this monster of a

disease approx 4

> years ago. -- He has been living at a Hospice Residence for the

past 6

> months and is receiving excellent care.

> The staff is caring and most attentive and not " exhausted " as I

was.--

> Lately he has been getting the chills quite frequently..almost

daily. The

> caregivers wrap him in heated flannel blankets and tuck him in with

sweet

> words and a kiss. It helps tremendously but I am wondering if

anyone else

> has experience with the " chill afftect " and has knowledge of why it

takes

> place. Is it because the bodies thermostat is shutting down along

with

> everything else? Also, any suggestions for eliminating the

chills? He does

> not want medication that is going to make him groggy or less

mentally

> alert....he wants to live the life he has left with as much mental

clariity

> as possible.

>

> Is anyone aware of Research that is being done specifically on

MSA. We may

> contribute in the future to such a cause but want the money

earmarked for MSA

> Research.

>

> In anticipation of a response -- thanks----

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Is your husband taking amantadine? My husband Rob oten complains

that it makes him have chills and goose bunps. I believe it is a

known side effect of the medication. I think that the illness itself

can also cause problems with temperature regualtion.

There are a few ways to contribute to research toward a better

understanding and hopefully a cure for MSA. You can contribute to

the Vanderbilt Autonomic Lab, to NORD (the National Organization for

Rare Diseases, www.rarediseases.org) or to the Mayo Clinic. Here in

Boston, MA, we are contributing to the Center for Autonomic and

Peripheral Disorders at Beth Israel Deaconess Hospital. Our family

has recently started a family foundation, and we are actively looking

for the best way to further research in thei area. I will be glad to

share whatever I find out.

Welcome to the list, and I hope we can help you and your husband deal

with this terrible illness.

Carol & Rob, Lexington, MA

> I just subscribed to the shy drager site and I am a

relative " beginner " at

> posting and receiving messages and culling thru to what I think are

the

> essentials. My husband was diagnosed with this monster of a

disease approx 4

> years ago. -- He has been living at a Hospice Residence for the

past 6

> months and is receiving excellent care.

> The staff is caring and most attentive and not " exhausted " as I

was.--

> Lately he has been getting the chills quite frequently..almost

daily. The

> caregivers wrap him in heated flannel blankets and tuck him in with

sweet

> words and a kiss. It helps tremendously but I am wondering if

anyone else

> has experience with the " chill afftect " and has knowledge of why it

takes

> place. Is it because the bodies thermostat is shutting down along

with

> everything else? Also, any suggestions for eliminating the

chills? He does

> not want medication that is going to make him groggy or less

mentally

> alert....he wants to live the life he has left with as much mental

clariity

> as possible.

>

> Is anyone aware of Research that is being done specifically on

MSA. We may

> contribute in the future to such a cause but want the money

earmarked for MSA

> Research.

>

> In anticipation of a response -- thanks----

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Is your husband taking amantadine? My husband Rob oten complains

that it makes him have chills and goose bunps. I believe it is a

known side effect of the medication. I think that the illness itself

can also cause problems with temperature regualtion.

There are a few ways to contribute to research toward a better

understanding and hopefully a cure for MSA. You can contribute to

the Vanderbilt Autonomic Lab, to NORD (the National Organization for

Rare Diseases, www.rarediseases.org) or to the Mayo Clinic. Here in

Boston, MA, we are contributing to the Center for Autonomic and

Peripheral Disorders at Beth Israel Deaconess Hospital. Our family

has recently started a family foundation, and we are actively looking

for the best way to further research in thei area. I will be glad to

share whatever I find out.

Welcome to the list, and I hope we can help you and your husband deal

with this terrible illness.

Carol & Rob, Lexington, MA

> I just subscribed to the shy drager site and I am a

relative " beginner " at

> posting and receiving messages and culling thru to what I think are

the

> essentials. My husband was diagnosed with this monster of a

disease approx 4

> years ago. -- He has been living at a Hospice Residence for the

past 6

> months and is receiving excellent care.

> The staff is caring and most attentive and not " exhausted " as I

was.--

> Lately he has been getting the chills quite frequently..almost

daily. The

> caregivers wrap him in heated flannel blankets and tuck him in with

sweet

> words and a kiss. It helps tremendously but I am wondering if

anyone else

> has experience with the " chill afftect " and has knowledge of why it

takes

> place. Is it because the bodies thermostat is shutting down along

with

> everything else? Also, any suggestions for eliminating the

chills? He does

> not want medication that is going to make him groggy or less

mentally

> alert....he wants to live the life he has left with as much mental

clariity

> as possible.

>

> Is anyone aware of Research that is being done specifically on

MSA. We may

> contribute in the future to such a cause but want the money

earmarked for MSA

> Research.

>

> In anticipation of a response -- thanks----

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Greetings !

You wondered:

> It helps tremendously but I am wondering if anyone else

> has experience with the " chill afftect " and has knowledge

> of why it takes place. Is it because the bodies thermostat

> is shutting down along with everything else? Also, any

> suggestions for eliminating the chills?

Here I am sitting, after a very long couple of weeks of work ... pushed

myself too hard, and I can tell. I am shivering up a storm. I get like

this now when I get tired. Didn't used to have this happen.

I just assume it is a thermostat problem. And treat it like getting too

tired. Wrap up warmly and try to rest. Seems to help me. No scientific,

but it helps.

Regards,

=jbf=

B. Fisher

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Greetings !

You wondered:

> It helps tremendously but I am wondering if anyone else

> has experience with the " chill afftect " and has knowledge

> of why it takes place. Is it because the bodies thermostat

> is shutting down along with everything else? Also, any

> suggestions for eliminating the chills?

Here I am sitting, after a very long couple of weeks of work ... pushed

myself too hard, and I can tell. I am shivering up a storm. I get like

this now when I get tired. Didn't used to have this happen.

I just assume it is a thermostat problem. And treat it like getting too

tired. Wrap up warmly and try to rest. Seems to help me. No scientific,

but it helps.

Regards,

=jbf=

B. Fisher

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my father has shydrager and he barely gets around. His hands are stiff and his legs can barely take him. the doctor suggested that he mainly get around in his wheelchair, but he continues to try to walk. he does fall, but he won't give up. i'm glad he's not giving up. he speech is hard to understand. we also, have to add a thickening to all liquid drinks including water because he has periods of times when it all just comes back to the surface. this is a horrible disease and it gets hard to watch everyday as he gets weaker. just needed to share my feelings on today.

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Charlotte is cold all the time, but rarely shivers. However, when she is tired

any standing is accompanied by an extreme case of shakes. I feel it is

weakness. Keep on exercising.

Take care, Bill and Charlotte

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Fisher wrote:

> Greetings !

>

> You wondered:

>

> > It helps tremendously but I am wondering if anyone else

> > has experience with the " chill afftect " and has knowledge

> > of why it takes place. Is it because the bodies thermostat

> > is shutting down along with everything else? Also, any

> > suggestions for eliminating the chills?

>

> Here I am sitting, after a very long couple of weeks of work ... pushed

> myself too hard, and I can tell. I am shivering up a storm. I get like

> this now when I get tired. Didn't used to have this happen.

>

> I just assume it is a thermostat problem. And treat it like getting too

> tired. Wrap up warmly and try to rest. Seems to help me. No scientific,

> but it helps.

>

> Regards,

> =jbf=

>

> B. Fisher

>

>

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Charlotte is cold all the time, but rarely shivers. However, when she is tired

any standing is accompanied by an extreme case of shakes. I feel it is

weakness. Keep on exercising.

Take care, Bill and Charlotte

------------------------------------------

Fisher wrote:

> Greetings !

>

> You wondered:

>

> > It helps tremendously but I am wondering if anyone else

> > has experience with the " chill afftect " and has knowledge

> > of why it takes place. Is it because the bodies thermostat

> > is shutting down along with everything else? Also, any

> > suggestions for eliminating the chills?

>

> Here I am sitting, after a very long couple of weeks of work ... pushed

> myself too hard, and I can tell. I am shivering up a storm. I get like

> this now when I get tired. Didn't used to have this happen.

>

> I just assume it is a thermostat problem. And treat it like getting too

> tired. Wrap up warmly and try to rest. Seems to help me. No scientific,

> but it helps.

>

> Regards,

> =jbf=

>

> B. Fisher

>

>

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Charlotte is cold all the time, but rarely shivers. However, when she is tired

any standing is accompanied by an extreme case of shakes. I feel it is

weakness. Keep on exercising.

Take care, Bill and Charlotte

------------------------------------------

Fisher wrote:

> Greetings !

>

> You wondered:

>

> > It helps tremendously but I am wondering if anyone else

> > has experience with the " chill afftect " and has knowledge

> > of why it takes place. Is it because the bodies thermostat

> > is shutting down along with everything else? Also, any

> > suggestions for eliminating the chills?

>

> Here I am sitting, after a very long couple of weeks of work ... pushed

> myself too hard, and I can tell. I am shivering up a storm. I get like

> this now when I get tired. Didn't used to have this happen.

>

> I just assume it is a thermostat problem. And treat it like getting too

> tired. Wrap up warmly and try to rest. Seems to help me. No scientific,

> but it helps.

>

> Regards,

> =jbf=

>

> B. Fisher

>

>

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Hi, I know how hard it is to watch a love one suffering with this hateful disease. My husband was diagnosed last year. Physical therapy is very important for MSA pts. It really helps him walk and move better. Feel free to privately email me anytime you feel you need to talk. Take care, Kathy Re: (no subject) my father has shydrager and he barely gets around. His hands are stiff and his legs can barely take him. the doctor suggested that he mainly get around in his wheelchair, but he continues to try to walk. he does fall, but he won't give up. i'm glad he's not giving up. he speech is hard to understand. we also, have to add a thickening to all liquid drinks including water because he has periods of times when it all just comes back to the surface. this is a horrible disease and it gets hard to watch everyday as he gets weaker. just needed to share my feelings on today.

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Hi, I know how hard it is to watch a love one suffering with this hateful disease. My husband was diagnosed last year. Physical therapy is very important for MSA pts. It really helps him walk and move better. Feel free to privately email me anytime you feel you need to talk. Take care, Kathy Re: (no subject) my father has shydrager and he barely gets around. His hands are stiff and his legs can barely take him. the doctor suggested that he mainly get around in his wheelchair, but he continues to try to walk. he does fall, but he won't give up. i'm glad he's not giving up. he speech is hard to understand. we also, have to add a thickening to all liquid drinks including water because he has periods of times when it all just comes back to the surface. this is a horrible disease and it gets hard to watch everyday as he gets weaker. just needed to share my feelings on today.

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Hi, I know how hard it is to watch a love one suffering with this hateful disease. My husband was diagnosed last year. Physical therapy is very important for MSA pts. It really helps him walk and move better. Feel free to privately email me anytime you feel you need to talk. Take care, Kathy Re: (no subject) my father has shydrager and he barely gets around. His hands are stiff and his legs can barely take him. the doctor suggested that he mainly get around in his wheelchair, but he continues to try to walk. he does fall, but he won't give up. i'm glad he's not giving up. he speech is hard to understand. we also, have to add a thickening to all liquid drinks including water because he has periods of times when it all just comes back to the surface. this is a horrible disease and it gets hard to watch everyday as he gets weaker. just needed to share my feelings on today.

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Oh, My Gosh, Cheryl!!! I did not realize that they are three years old

already! And is up to 23 pounds? That is great. How is the new

school going? 's hearing and speech? I miss hearing from you, but

certainly understand how busy you are. (But I'll bet having at

school a little bit has been a little bit of a relief - just so that you can

spend more time with Jen and .)

Fill us in when you have the chance!

Jodi

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> Hi Steve and Judith,

>

> I'm the triplet Mom of the group (and no saint, as Liz mentioned, that's

for sure). I have 2

> boys and a girl, , and . is my RSS son. My

kids just turned 3

> last month. 's 23 lbs., 32 " , is 45 lbs., and is 40

lbs. I know exactly

> what you mean by the non-RSS kids running over the RSS kids. does

have a feeding tube

> that we rely on for nutrition, he's also on periactin. and we are regulars

now at Dr. H's

> office. We'll be seeing her March 30th (anyone else going on that date?).

I'm sure we'll be

> talking growth hormone at our next visit. We live in CT so NY isn't that

far away. Anyway,

> glad to have you on the list and I'll write more when I have more time.

>

> Cheryl

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Hi Cheryl,

Glad to hear from you - just had to say a couple of things.

> I'm the triplet Mom of the group (and no saint, as Liz mentioned,

that's for sure).>

Sorry, but speaking as a parent of twins, any parent of triplets who

survives with his/her sanity intact automatically get the " Advance

directly to Go, Collect $200 " free pass into sainthood :o)

>>I know exactly what you mean by the non-RSS kids running over the

RSS kids.>>

Yeah, that speed bump comment seems to have hit home with some folks,

but does have a couple of ways of getting even that he thinks

we don't notice lol

>>we are regulars now at Dr. H's office. We'll be seeing her March

30th (anyone else going on that date?). I'm sure we'll be

> talking growth hormone at our next visit.>>

Good luck at Dr. H's, we understand the 'growth hormone' stage is a

big one.

>>We live in CT so NY isn't that far away. >>

Where in CT? We're a few minutes from the Tappan Zee, so 95 and the

Merritt aren't too far from us, maybe 15-20 mins to CT.

> glad to have you on the list and I'll write more when I have more

time.>

Judith asked... with triplets, you mean you EVER have 'more time'???

Sainthood, indeed..........

take care,

Steve ( & Judith)

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well its thursday i still have not heard anything from the Dr I called today and she said he is waiting for one more report to complete. I am going crazy. DO you think he will tell me over the phone or I have to go back then that is more waiting. Anybody else how long did you take to find results out. I just want to go into the streets and scream see I am not crazy depressed fatigued or any other scape goat Dx used to sho me away.My kidneys are killing me and has anyone felt like theri tongue is swollen i keep getting this feeling that i am having an allergic reaction(but not) and my tongue feels like it is swollen ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~The Neurosarcoidosis CommunityLive Group Chat:-Mondays & Fridays 10pm EST USAhttp://www.elderwyn.com/neurosarcoidosis/chat.phpMessage Archives:-http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Neurosarcoidosis/messagesMembers Database:-Listings of locations, phone numbers, and instant messengers.http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Neurosarcoidosis/database

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