Re: AP Docs in Michigan that accept insurance!

[Guest guest]

Hey Jazz,

I pay out of pocket for Doc Goldstein and is worth every penny. I am also

going to get IV's from him in July at $90 a pop because I want to make sure

I don't lose function of the thumb. I also put out lots of money for

supplements which are expensive(not from him). I am worth it! I would rather

do this than use the biologics (thanks for the word ) and kill my

immune system and who knows what else!

I have medicare and he does not take medicare.

Cooky

From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf

Of jazz_ie99

Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 2:05 PM

rheumatic

Subject: rheumatic AP Docs in Michigan that accept insurance!

I think this is the most frustrating part for me. As soon as I find a doc

here in MI that does practice AP they do not accept my insurance. I cannot

afford to pay out of pocket but I'd like to get better just as much as the

person who can pay does. Has anyone found a doc here that does? Conventional

drugs aren't working for me and I'm tired of being a guinea pig to the toxic

meds. This is pretty much my last resort. I have Blue Care Network

insurance.

[Guest guest]

Here are some names - I haven't gone to them personally - trying things out on

my own as I don't have much money coming in at the moment.

MICHIGAN

Brownstein, M.D. (IV and oral) Two other doctors listed ˆ

Center for Holistic Medicine specializes in hormone replacement

5821 W. Maple Rd. Suite 192

West Bloomfield, MI 48322

P: 248-851-1600

F: 248-851-0421

Email: acudoc@...

Not sure about this one - my sister-in-law sees him and he is willing to

prescribe alternative treatments. When my finances improve I plan on contacting

him.

Margolis

43956 Mound Road

Sterling Heights, MI 48314-2034

(586) 323-1122

M. Dugliss, M.D. ˆ IM 1994

Oakwood Health Care

36555 Warren,

Westland MI 48185.

734-414-9000

email Pdugliss@...

Ledtke, M.D. FP 1976

150 Plymouth Rd.

Saginaw, MI 48603

P : 517-793-7779

F : 517-793-7137

R. Lubetsky, M.D. RHU ˆ IM 1974

3500 15 Mile Rd., Orchard Lake, MI 48323

Sterling Heights MI 48310. 248-977-6236

P: 810-977-6236

Nebbling, DO - specialty is RA ˆ worked with Dr. Sinnott

2720 Pleasant Grove

Lansing, MI 48910

P: 517-323-1833

Jack Hinkle, DO (AAEM) has AP info

18297 W. Toledo Highway

Cement City, MI 49233

P: 517-547-3176

T. Reid Kavieff, DO

28595 Orchard Lake Road ˆ Suite 306

Farmington Hills, MI 48334

P: 248-324-0777

ph Renney, MD ®

Cedarwood Medical Clinic

St. ph, MI

P: 616-983-0571

Jerold Shagrin, MD (RHU)

Arthritis Associates

31815 Southfield Rd ˆ Suite 10

Birmingham, MI 48025

P: 313-647-4420

Maureen D. Mayes, M.D. ˆ RHU 1976 (specializes in treating SSC conventionally

Hutzel Hospital ˆ Dept. Rheumatology,

4707 St. Antoine St.

Detroit, MI. 48201

P: 313-745-0709

T. Nadolny D.O. (FP), oral and IV ? ˆ not in AMA or phone directories

28800 Eight Mile Suite 110, May have retired.

Farmington Hills, MI 48188.

P: 248-477-7344.

M. Nutt, D.O., - Occupational Med. 1961

420 S. Lafayette,

Greenville, MI 48838-2374.

P: 616-754-3679

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> Hey Jazz,

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>

>

> I pay out of pocket for Doc Goldstein and is worth every penny. I am also

> going to get IV's from him in July at $90 a pop because I want to make sure

> I don't lose function of the thumb. I also put out lots of money for

> supplements which are expensive(not from him). I am worth it! I would rather

> do this than use the biologics (thanks for the word ) and kill my

> immune system and who knows what else!

>

>

>

> I have medicare and he does not take medicare.

>

>

>

> Cooky

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> From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf

> Of jazz_ie99

> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 2:05 PM

> rheumatic

> Subject: rheumatic AP Docs in Michigan that accept insurance!

>

>

>

>

>

> I think this is the most frustrating part for me. As soon as I find a doc

> here in MI that does practice AP they do not accept my insurance. I cannot

> afford to pay out of pocket but I'd like to get better just as much as the

> person who can pay does. Has anyone found a doc here that does? Conventional

> drugs aren't working for me and I'm tired of being a guinea pig to the toxic

> meds. This is pretty much my last resort. I have Blue Care Network

> insurance.

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Cooky,

Thanks for replying. Is Dr. Goldstein located in Michigan? Also do you know how

many IV treatments you would need monthly? $90 isn't bad at all depending on far

apart the treatments are.

>

> Hey Jazz,

>

>

>

> I pay out of pocket for Doc Goldstein and is worth every penny. I am also

> going to get IV's from him in July at $90 a pop because I want to make sure

> I don't lose function of the thumb. I also put out lots of money for

> supplements which are expensive(not from him). I am worth it! I would rather

> do this than use the biologics (thanks for the word ) and kill my

> immune system and who knows what else!

>

>

>

> I have medicare and he does not take medicare.

>

>

>

> Cooky

>

>

>

>

>

> From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf

> Of jazz_ie99

> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 2:05 PM

> rheumatic

> Subject: rheumatic AP Docs in Michigan that accept insurance!

>

>

>

>

>

> I think this is the most frustrating part for me. As soon as I find a doc

> here in MI that does practice AP they do not accept my insurance. I cannot

> afford to pay out of pocket but I'd like to get better just as much as the

> person who can pay does. Has anyone found a doc here that does? Conventional

> drugs aren't working for me and I'm tired of being a guinea pig to the toxic

> meds. This is pretty much my last resort. I have Blue Care Network

> insurance.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh thank you so much nealnatemom! I actually found 2 docs on the list that take

my insurance! I do no for a fact that Dr. Lubetsky does NOT practice AP.

I went to see him for that reason because he was on a list and when I asked him

about it he behaved as if he didn't know what the heck I was talking about. He

said that my old rheums use of conventional meds was how he would treat my

situation. I never went back. I wonder if he got in trouble with the hospital

for doing the AP on patients. He is connected to the Henry Ford Hospital here in

MI.

> >

> > Hey Jazz,

> >

> >

> >

> > I pay out of pocket for Doc Goldstein and is worth every penny. I am also

> > going to get IV's from him in July at $90 a pop because I want to make sure

> > I don't lose function of the thumb. I also put out lots of money for

> > supplements which are expensive(not from him). I am worth it! I would rather

> > do this than use the biologics (thanks for the word ) and kill my

> > immune system and who knows what else!

> >

> >

> >

> > I have medicare and he does not take medicare.

> >

> >

> >

> > Cooky

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf

> > Of jazz_ie99

> > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 2:05 PM

> > rheumatic

> > Subject: rheumatic AP Docs in Michigan that accept insurance!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I think this is the most frustrating part for me. As soon as I find a doc

> > here in MI that does practice AP they do not accept my insurance. I cannot

> > afford to pay out of pocket but I'd like to get better just as much as the

> > person who can pay does. Has anyone found a doc here that does? Conventional

> > drugs aren't working for me and I'm tired of being a guinea pig to the toxic

> > meds. This is pretty much my last resort. I have Blue Care Network

> > insurance.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Good news Jazz - I'll make sure to take Lubetsky off the list! Hope all goes

well.

> > >

> > > Hey Jazz,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I pay out of pocket for Doc Goldstein and is worth every penny. I am also

> > > going to get IV's from him in July at $90 a pop because I want to make

sure

> > > I don't lose function of the thumb. I also put out lots of money for

> > > supplements which are expensive(not from him). I am worth it! I would

rather

> > > do this than use the biologics (thanks for the word ) and kill my

> > > immune system and who knows what else!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I have medicare and he does not take medicare.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Cooky

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On

Behalf

> > > Of jazz_ie99

> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 2:05 PM

> > > rheumatic

> > > Subject: rheumatic AP Docs in Michigan that accept insurance!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I think this is the most frustrating part for me. As soon as I find a doc

> > > here in MI that does practice AP they do not accept my insurance. I cannot

> > > afford to pay out of pocket but I'd like to get better just as much as the

> > > person who can pay does. Has anyone found a doc here that does?

Conventional

> > > drugs aren't working for me and I'm tired of being a guinea pig to the

toxic

> > > meds. This is pretty much my last resort. I have Blue Care Network

> > > insurance.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks Judkeels. Unfortunately doctors like Brownstein are out of my reach

because of the out of pocket expense. Seems my insurance only pays for the

mediocre ones who want to shut you up by stuffing drugs down your throat. I did

check Dr. Brownstein out about a year ago and he does seem great but when I

heard how much the office visit was, sadly I had to pass. It sucks being sick

with limited finances. Can't get to see who you really need to.

> >

> > Hey Jazz,

> >

> >

> >

> > I pay out of pocket for Doc Goldstein and is worth every penny. I am also

> > going to get IV's from him in July at $90 a pop because I want to make

> sure

> > I don't lose function of the thumb. I also put out lots of money for

> > supplements which are expensive(not from him). I am worth it! I would

> rather

> > do this than use the biologics (thanks for the word ) and kill my

> > immune system and who knows what else!

> >

> >

> >

> > I have medicare and he does not take medicare.

> >

> >

> >

> > Cooky

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From: _rheumatic _ (mailto:rheumatic )

> [mailto:_rheumatic _ (mailto:rheumatic ) ] On

> Behalf

> > Of jazz_ie99

> > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 2:05 PM

> > _rheumatic _ (mailto:rheumatic )

> > Subject: rheumatic AP Docs in Michigan that accept insurance!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I think this is the most frustrating part for me. As soon as I find a doc

> > here in MI that does practice AP they do not accept my insurance. I

> cannot

> > afford to pay out of pocket but I'd like to get better just as much as

> the

> > person who can pay does. Has anyone found a doc here that does?

> Conventional

> > drugs aren't working for me and I'm tired of being a guinea pig to the

> toxic

> > meds. This is pretty much my last resort. I have Blue Care Network

> > insurance.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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