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February 12, 2008

Hi everyone,

I keep bumping into people lately with RA who take methotrexate and tell me how

great it is <pfffffft>. When i tell them i hate the stuff and avoid doctors

like the plague, they look at me blankly as if i'm wierd < i am wierd actually

>. I know i should get myself checked ocassionally, but i'm very naughty and

don't feel doctors are on my side. Doctors can do some amazing things when it

comes to fixing up broken bodies, but when it comes to things like auto-immune

disease, i reckon they are stumped.

Can anyone tell me why they rejected the drugs like metho and other similar

ones, and opted for alternatives like the AP ? Was it because of the side

effects of the drugs ? I realise some people on this list still take metho, and

i'm not judging them. I suppose some people can tolerate strong drugs quite

well, and others can't. I never felt right taking metho... i was always itching

to get off it. I took it on and off for a year or two, and after a while it

stopped working for me - maybe i should have stayed on it continuously. The doc

wanted to up the dose to something which seemed very high. I said " no way " . I

never quite understood how killing my immune system was a way to make me better.

Even if it did work, it didn't seem right.

Well, i guess the AP is still a drug treatment, which scares me just as much as

taking metho. It's taken me a long while to come to the conclusion that i

should try it. I guess one comes to a point in life where you either do

something, or you die, because doing nothing is like a living death anyway.

My doc didn't find any mycoplasma antibodies in my regular blood tests, but he's

also got me doing a different test tomorrow which is performed by a special lab.

It's called a DNA panel for mycoplasma and chlamydia. I guess it's more

accurate than the other test. If they don't find mycoplasmas, i wonder if i

still can do the AP......

best,

Leonie

~Leonie

leoniecent@...

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February 12, 2008

Hi Leonie,

I have never been tested for Mycoplasma and have been on AP for

approximately 6 years. I do not have any negative side effects and see me

rheumy regularly for blood tests. The way I see it, AP is the least toxic

avenue to being well. It has done wonders for me.

Regards,

Dee

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From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf

Of leonie cent

Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 6:58 AM

rheumatic

Subject: rheumatic ramblings - no need to read if you get bored easily

Hi everyone,

I keep bumping into people lately with RA who take methotrexate and tell me

how great it is <pfffffft>. When i tell them i hate the stuff and avoid

doctors like the plague, they look at me blankly as if i'm wierd < i am

wierd actually >. I know i should get myself checked ocassionally, but

i'm very naughty and don't feel doctors are on my side. Doctors can do some

amazing things when it comes to fixing up broken bodies, but when it comes

to things like auto-immune disease, i reckon they are stumped.

Can anyone tell me why they rejected the drugs like metho and other similar

ones, and opted for alternatives like the AP ? Was it because of the side

effects of the drugs ? I realise some people on this list still take metho,

and i'm not judging them. I suppose some people can tolerate strong drugs

quite well, and others can't. I never felt right taking metho... i was

always itching to get off it. I took it on and off for a year or two, and

after a while it stopped working for me - maybe i should have stayed on it

continuously. The doc wanted to up the dose to something which seemed very

high. I said " no way " . I never quite understood how killing my immune system

was a way to make me better. Even if it did work, it didn't seem right.

Well, i guess the AP is still a drug treatment, which scares me just as much

as taking metho. It's taken me a long while to come to the conclusion that i

should try it. I guess one comes to a point in life where you either do

something, or you die, because doing nothing is like a living death anyway.

My doc didn't find any mycoplasma antibodies in my regular blood tests, but

he's also got me doing a different test tomorrow which is performed by a

special lab. It's called a DNA panel for mycoplasma and chlamydia. I guess

it's more accurate than the other test. If they don't find mycoplasmas, i

wonder if i still can do the AP......

best,

Leonie

~Leonie

leoniecentbigpond (DOT) <mailto:leoniecent%40bigpond.com> com

Independent XanGo Distributor

02 62556202

_________________________________

Nature's Wellness Secret

www.mangOZsteen.com

_________________________________

February 12, 2008

Hi Leonie, I did take methotrexate when I was young and stupid,i.e,before

learning about AP.It did help BUT I lost tons of hair,felt sick all the time

and had serious liver problems that the monthly testing did not pick up on.My

liver was so inflamed that the only position that was comfortable was standing

up,sitting was impossible and laying down was excruciating.This lasted for the

best part of a year so no doctor had better not talk to me about MTX again.

There is no way your doc. can test for the over 150 kinds of micos without

putting you into bankrupcy so I never got tested.Just took it for granted that I

have them and proceded to use AP.Full dose 200mg dayly did not help much,low

dose pulsed made me herx like the dickens so it is very obvious that micos are

present and that I am on the right path.I am in remission but the little beggers

are still with me and probably will be for a long time to come unless I move on

to MP.At least I can control the amount of herxing that I want and if I have

something special to do I just drop a dose or two of antibiotics and resume them

a bit later. Lynne G./SD

rheumatic ramblings - no need to read if you get bored easily

Hi everyone,

I keep bumping into people lately with RA who take methotrexate and tell me

how great it is <pfffffft>. When i tell them i hate the stuff and avoid doctors