Guest guest Posted March 26, 2002 Report Share Posted March 26, 2002 Carmen, I have forwarded most of the messages in that thread to her and she said that she was going to consult with some friends of her who raise goats.... Sonja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2002 Report Share Posted March 26, 2002 Dear , I have been researching the subject of feeding calves and this is what I have come up with--please post this on the chat group Regarding the statement that calves fed pasteurized milk die before maturity, we have on our Board an ex-dairy farmer from New Zealand. He read the brochure when we were working on it and I brought this subject up to him again. He remembers a study that was done in Australia (but I don't have a reference for this) in which they fed calves pasteurized milk and they died. I then had a long conversation with his nephew who raises calves in New Zealand. The calves are then sold to dairies. He raises the calves on raw milk. They have access to hay from birth and are given a mixture of barley, corn and molasses at 2 weeks. But they stay on the raw milk until 12-14 weeks of age. He confirmed the truth of the statement--if the calves are fed pasteurized milk, they do not reach maturity. I asked him about milk replacments. He said that some calf-raisers use the milk replacement but he said these calves are much more delicate. They must be kept inside and warm, but not crowded because they bruise easily. I asked him whether he thought using the milk replacement was one reason that dairy cows now have such short lives and he thought this might be so. Now here is the interesting conclusion to all this. . . that it is actually better to give calves a milk replacement than to give them pasteurized milk! Think of what this means about the degradation of milk by pasteurization. Obviously the vitamins are denatured to such an extent that there is no longer good nutrition for the animal, and the synthetic vitamins in the milk replacement do a better job than the vitamins in milk that has been pasteurized. As for goats, I had an email conversation with a friend who is just getting in to raising goats. She confirmed that goats are given a combination of dried colostrum and a milk replacment to avoid passing CAE (Caprine Arthritis Encephalitis) on to the kids. She sent me the ingredients to this replacement which contains lots of minerals, synthetic vitamins plus dried milk protein, dried milk, dried whey and dried lactobacillus acidophilus " fermentation product. " I suspect that the risk of passing CAE may be exaggerated in order for the industry to sell lots of milk replacement, but even if this is a true threat that must be countered with artificial feeding, the conclusion is the same. A replacement containing vitamins and minerals must be used because the pasteurized milk will not provide all the kid needs to grow. So the statement on the website is basically correct. We may post an article on feeding ruminant animals containing this information at a later date. Sally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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