A bit of History

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This list was formed back in the mid 90s to provide information about the

antibiotic protocol as well as providing support and encouragement to people

using it. It proved valuable to physicians interested in the protocol and they

joined from time to time providing their insight and learning from our

experiences. What a great combination. There are some on this list who will

remember the rheumatologist from New Zealand who was with us for a long time,

becoming a friend accompanying us on this journey back to health with his wise

counsel. We were a tight-knit group - like a family if you will - interested

in and considerate of one another. There was a physician that provided

medication pro-bono for a patient who could not get it on their own. And a

scleroderma patient in NC (?) that drove his RV to Alabama, picked up a critical

scleroderma patient and drove him for IV therapy all the way to Iowa. I wonder

how many are still on the list who attended the seminar in California Dr. Franco

put on for our group and his patients, or the one he spoke at in Dallas, TX for

people in the group. Both times there was a great time of learning and sharing.

One group member from Australia paid the airfare for another member from Canada,

in a wheelchair, to attend the California seminar, and after the seminar, Dr.

Franco examined and treated her at no cost. Members in the group contributed to

the cost of her supplements. I still remember the day she announced remission

and sent us the picture of her riding her horse again.

But when you operate lists like this, people come and people go, and the

" personality " of the list changes. People joined who cluttered up the list with

inconsequential posts that had nothing to do with the protocol and posts

directed only to one person - some emails with just one word in them. The

number of emails - already high, increased dramatically. These doctors,

rightfully, complained they didn't have time to wade through such posts and left

us. ly, I didn't either. But they weren't the only ones complaining.

People also complained who were so sick that operating a keyboard was very

difficult and tiring, and having to wade through all these non-applicable posts

to find one of substance was impossible.

That particular group of people didn't feel they could comply with the intent of

this group and left to form their own where they could chatter about anything

they wished to, but it didn't last long.

You are welcome and encouraged to discuss anything pertaining to the protocol,

or anything that might improve, enhance or even hinder it, or other therapies

you have found that might be of help. (Even Dr. Brown did not feel the AP was

the even the total answer.) Yes, even subjects like health insurance providing

you state your pro or con in an intelligent, articulate fashion without

attacking another's position. One thing that we cannot permit is personal

attacks on each other.

Regarding these unsubscribe requests, please be kind when telling the person how

to unsubscribe Some people are so sick they can't remember how they subscribed

in the first place. Yes, there are some who just want someone to do it for

them. There will always be that kind. Then there are times the person has a

problem unsubscribing they can't figure out. Such is the case with Janet and

Norman Moss.

Bottom line? While we always appreciate your help on this list, if you can't be

kind in your reply, please leave the job to the moderators.

Thank you!

Ethel

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Dougman

Why do you believe in HIV which has never been found in anyone's blood? If you

know of anyone who has properly isolated it, then have them collect half a

million for themselves and half a million for their charity.

HIV is a bunch of nonsense, which many make money at our expense. Not forgetting

the harmful effects toxic drugs.

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> I had heard it is more common for people in northern Europe to be immune from

aids. here is the explanation why: I am very familiar with ccr4 and ccr5 cell

receptors because there is an anti-HIV medication called Maraviroc (Selzentry)

that only works on ccr5-tropic HIV virus.

> It turns out that some strains of HIV use the ccr4 receptor to gain

entry into white blood cells and other strains of HIV use the ccr5 receptor to

gain entry.

> Maraviroc is a ccr5 receptor antagonist -- it blocks the ccr5 receptor.

So any HIV particle that looks to gain entry into a cell by the ccr5 receptor

attachment, will be blocked by the medication maraviroc. It's called an " entry

inhibitor " .

> So, before a patient is started on maraviroc, they have what's called a

tropism test. It checks to see if the HIV virus in their bodies is ccr4-tropic

(uses the ccr4 receptor to gain entry into cells) or ccr5-tropic (uses the ccr5

receptor to gain entry into cells.) If the HIV in a particular patient's body

is ccr5 tropic, you can expect maraviroc to help that patient control their HIV

infection. On the other hand, if the HIV in a patients body is ccr4 tropic,

then Maraviroc will not help them at all.

> I had forgotten that the mutated ccr5 receptor was selected for by the

Black Plague in Europe (the Yersenia pestis bacterium). Those who had the ccr5

receptor were protected from Yersenia pestis and therefore immune for the black

plague. Since those with the mutated receptor survived (and went on the have

children, passing their genes for the mutated ccr5 receptor into the next

generation) while those without it perished from the plague (therefore had no

offspring in whom to pass their ccr4 receptor genes) the ccr5 mutation became

more common in the European population over time. Fascinating!

> amazing the same mechanism that protected one from the plague also protects

one from aids.

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