question

[Guest guest]

My kit/fee for the Luat from Ignex only cost me about $ 200. Has the price

gone up?

Mona

[Guest guest]

Here is the web site that explains how Igenex works:

http://www.igenex.com/

>From: Anne Marie <amrhodes@...>

>

>About this IGENEX lab, how does that work. Do you send blood work to

>them or do they send you some kit? And how much does this cost?

>

>Anne

>

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[Guest guest]

Anne Marie wrote:

>

> From: Anne Marie <amrhodes@...>

>

> About this IGENEX lab, how does that work. Do you send blood work to

> them or do they send you some kit? And how much does this cost?

>

> Anne

>

> -Dear Anne: Igenex sent a kit for the 3 LUAT tests. But I had to go to the

hospital to get my blood drawn for the Western Blot. The hospital gave me a

container, and I sent it along with the 3 days of urine samples by FED EX, as

per Igenex's instructions. It cost me about $680.00 and they don't take

insurance. But I think it was well worth it for my peace of mind, and to prove

to the moronic doctors that I'm still infected!!

Lovette

[Guest guest]

Anne Marie,

http://www.igenex.com/

Web site for IGeneX, highly respected lab used by many

physician's to rule out Lyme or support clinical diagnosis

I believe you can get the information you need from their

web site. Good luck to you.

Wishing us all health and freedom from pain,

both physical and emotional -

Anne Marie wrote:

> From: Anne Marie <amrhodes@...>

>

> About this IGENEX lab, how does that work. Do you send blood work to

> them or do they send you some kit? And how much does this cost?

>

[Guest guest]

WISHXXX@... wrote:

>

> From: WISHXXX@...

>

> My kit/fee for the Luat from Ignex only cost me about $ 200. Has the price

> gone up?

> Mona

>

Dear Mona: I had 3 urine samples, and about 4 or 5 blood samples for

the Western Blot.

Lovette

[Guest guest]

Igenex took my insurance, Medicare. I had no out of pocket cost. The

doctor's help insisted they wouldn't take any insurance but I e-mailed

them and the lady responded immediately and told me they would. And they

did. I did the Fedex number, too. I found the e-mail online at their

web site.

On Thu, 04 Feb 1999 18:48:52 -0500 " F. Mott " <smott@...>

writes:

>From: " F. Mott " <smott@...>

>

>Anne Marie wrote:

>>

>> From: Anne Marie <amrhodes@...>

>>

>> About this IGENEX lab, how does that work. Do you send blood work

>to

>> them or do they send you some kit? And how much does this cost?

>>

>> Anne

>>

>> -Dear Anne: Igenex sent a kit for the 3 LUAT tests. But I had to

>go to the hospital to get my blood drawn for the Western Blot. The

>hospital gave me a container, and I sent it along with the 3 days of

>urine samples by FED EX, as per Igenex's instructions. It cost me

>about $680.00 and they don't take insurance. But I think it was well

>worth it for my peace of mind, and to prove to the moronic doctors

>that I'm still infected!!

>

>Lovette

>

>

>------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

I just had a Babesia PCR test done from Igenex Labs the cost for this

test is $189

They don't take any insurance for payment of the tests though which is

the only bad thing. You have to pay out of pocket and them be reimbursed

the amount your insurance will pay. Will my bil;l they gave me a letter

that describes the test and this is to send to your insurance so they

understnad the test more and then are more apt to cover more since it was

necessary.

Rob

'Songman' Liptak

[Guest guest]

Igenex does take Medicare. You just fill out the Medicare place on the

request slip. I don't know if there are any other insurance types they

accept up front. And remember some of us on Medicare are not any where

near 65.

I'm glad to know the cost of the Babesia test since all I got was the

results from the doctor. With Medicare you don't get a receipt.

On Thu, 11 Feb 99 16:08:07 -0500 Liptak

Liptak Liptak <songman@...> writes:

>From: Liptak Liptak Liptak

><songman@...>

>

>I just had a Babesia PCR test done from Igenex Labs the cost for this

>test is $189

>They don't take any insurance for payment of the tests though which is

>

>the only bad thing. You have to pay out of pocket and them be

>reimbursed

>the amount your insurance will pay. Will my bil;l they gave me a

>letter

>that describes the test and this is to send to your insurance so they

>understnad the test more and then are more apt to cover more since it

>was

>necessary.

>

> Rob

>'Songman' Liptak

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Red Cheeks

Have you had your BP checked lately.

One side effect of Neoral was high BP for me. On top of that the Neoral did

nothing for my skin, and only helped when combined with the Metho for my

joints - and only for a while.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/20/99 7:28:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

LymeDizzez@... writes:

<< From: LymeDizzez@...

Is Lyme Disease contagious? I've never seen that question addressed but I'm

curious.

>>

Sorry. I meant from person to person. Of course it's contagious from a tick.

Sorry. Fuzzy Brain strikes again.

, New Bedford, MA.

<A HREF= " http://members.tripod.com/LymeDizzez/ " >Lyme Disease and Me</A>

ICQ # 26791014

[Guest guest]

some reports say that sexual transmission is possible,,,,,,they are still in

the process of more research on the matter

Reid

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/20/99 12:15:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

RMcmur3194@... writes:

<< Some reports say that sexual transmission is possible,,,,,,they are still

in

the process of more research on the matter

Reid

>>

Thanks Reid. I would truly hate to think I have the ability to share this

disease. I'll be careful.

, New Bedford, MA.

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ICQ # 26791014

[Guest guest]

Lee Ann...yes, I do Annette

[Guest guest]

Lee Ann

I am not sure about others........ but I have refused to let PA get in my

way, however the nature of this beast we have sometimes it does. A few

weekends ago I took my kids to Great America ( A theme park in calif)I was

able to somewhat walk around and push myself through it. When it was time to

sit and chill we did. I even went on a roller coaster. The next day I spent

either swimming or lounging to relieve the consequences of the previous day.

To see the happiness on my kids faces girl-12 and boy-9 was more than worth

the energy I found from within! My daughter proudly carries that picture of

her mother screaming in terror (from the demon roller coaster). For me that

is beyond words!

So I say............ hold to your dreams your hopes and your fantasies.....

GO FOR IT!!! It is our job as partners/mothers/fathers etc..... to do what

ever we can do to keep ourselves as " normal " and " functional " as

possible...and we owe it mostly to ourselves......push the envelope!.......

Sorry if I got on my soap box <smiles>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 08/15/1999 7:34:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

SAWalter@... writes:

<< Has having PA kept any of you from achieving most of your life's

dreams. >>

I am a career housewife and my lifes dreams revolved around raising my

daughters to be happy, ethical, successful people..and they are. They were

grown when I got sick in 1992.

Many times sickness as well as other unfortunate circumstances causes us to

have to give up long held dreams and reevaluate our lives. Very few lives

have gone according to plan. Happiness comes not from " getting what you

want " ...but learning to " want what you get " .

I am an older lady, I am almost bald, I am overweight, my psoriasis looks

more like leprosy, and I have a limp that looks like I will topple over at

any moment...lol...not to mention pain almost every second...but I am

usually happy. I can focus on what I have left and not what I have lost. I

have a family that loves me, I have a nice home and good medical care...and

most of all I am still " me " ...this disease has only robbed me of

cosmetics...I am still happy to be me.

Yes, I have lowered the bar...I used to dream of returning to Giza and

climbing the Great Pyramid again...now I dream of pulling off one more

holiday dinner for my family...a comfortable pair of shoes...sleeping through

the night... The dreams of my youth are gone, but I am thrilled each time

one of my new dreams comes true.

Enjoy what you have...when you have it...then move on and reinvent your

definition of " having a good day " . We often can't change our circumstances,

but we can dictate how we react to them.

Sorry this was so long,

Annette

[Guest guest]

>>>I am a career housewife and my lifes dreams revolved around

raising my

daughters to be happy, ethical, successful people..and they are.

They were

grown when I got sick in 1992.

Many times sickness as well as other unfortunate circumstances

causes us to

have to give up long held dreams and reevaluate our lives. Very

few lives

have gone according to plan. Happiness comes not from " getting

what you

want " ...but learning to " want what you get " .

I am an older lady, I am almost bald, I am overweight, my

psoriasis looks

more like leprosy, and I have a limp that looks like I will

topple over at

any moment...lol...not to mention pain almost every second...but

I am

usually happy. I can focus on what I have left and not what I

have lost. I

have a family that loves me, I have a nice home and good medical

care...and

most of all I am still " me " ...this disease has only robbed me of

cosmetics...I am still happy to be me.

Yes, I have lowered the bar...I used to dream of returning to

Giza and

climbing the Great Pyramid again...now I dream of pulling off one

more

holiday dinner for my family...a comfortable pair of

shoes...sleeping through

the night... The dreams of my youth are gone, but I am thrilled

each time

one of my new dreams comes true.

Enjoy what you have...when you have it...then move on and

reinvent your

definition of " having a good day " . We often can't change our

circumstances,

but we can dictate how we react to them.

Sorry this was so long,

Annette <<<

Thank you Annette so much! I do love being home. The thing that

I have had a difficult time with is feeling like I SHOULD be out

working. Even with 5 children I am asked if I work. Do I work -

" YES " - I want to yell! With two toddlers and one infant and two

teenage girls, it is WORK. I feel like I have accomplished my

biggest dream in life - My family. Part of me is afraid of the

empty nest thing. I don't ever want to be without someone to

take care of. I had dreamed of finding an old nursing home or

some such building and adopting handicapped children that no one

else would take. But my husband and I don't want to take the

chance on something happening to me and putting the job of caring

for severely disabled children on our healthy children. We want

them to have their own life. For the next 18 years or so my time

will be completely filled. We also homeschool our kids. I have

one in 10th grade and one in 8th grade right now. They are doing

wonderfully well.

Within this past month, from the time I found out what my problem

is, I have had to adjust my life's plans. I had to face the fact

that the one thing I thought God was calling me to do will

probably not happen. I am ok with it now. I think I tend to

overload myself with business. I just wish my body could keep up

with my mind! You are right - we can not change what God has

given us to deal with. What we are responsible for is how we

react to it and what we do with it. Yes, I am grateful for what

I have and I know how blessed we are.

Thanks for the encouraging words.

Lee Ann Walter

Wife of Steve;

Mom to: 15; Krystle 14;

Caleb 2; 2; 10 mo.

Home Page:

http://www.homestead.com/walter7/index.html

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>>Lee Ann

I am not sure about others........ but I have refused to let PA

get in my

way, however the nature of this beast we have sometimes it does.

A few

weekends ago I took my kids to Great America ( A theme park in

calif)I was

able to somewhat walk around and push myself through it. When it

was time to

sit and chill we did. I even went on a roller coaster. The next

day I spent

either swimming or lounging to relieve the consequences of the

previous day.

To see the happiness on my kids faces girl-12 and boy-9 was more

than worth

the energy I found from within! My daughter proudly carries that

picture of

her mother screaming in terror (from the demon roller coaster).

For me that

is beyond words!

So I say............ hold to your dreams your hopes and your

fantasies.....

GO FOR IT!!! It is our job as partners/mothers/fathers etc.....

to do what

ever we can do to keep ourselves as " normal " and " functional " as

possible...and we owe it mostly to ourselves......push the

envelope!.......

Sorry if I got on my soap box <smiles> <<

Thanks! Sometimes I feel like it is all or nothing. I want to

be invisible and it makes me mad that I am not! I think maybe

I needed something to slow me down. I can't do a good job if I

have too much of a job to do. Your letter reminds me of that

fact. I do " push the envelope " but sometimes too far. I lose

sight of what is important. I guess I am just in the early stages

of dealing with this. I have dealt with High Blood pressure

since I was 16 years old. I have been on medication since that

age. I was 20 and 22 when I had my daughters. My pregnancies

were high risk and we came close to losing our first one because

of a blood disorder. I wanted a large family. God has blessed

us with 3 more children by adoption. We love them all very much.

I have had Psoriasis since I was 11. I know I have felt cheated

by having health problems. I have had panic attacks and

hospitalizations because of them. I could go on. But I won't.

I am glad to have an answer to many of the health problems I have

been having. But I am frustrated. I am trying to see the good

in it all though!

Thanks for the encouragement!

Lee Ann Walter

Wife of Steve;

Mom to: 15; Krystle 14;

Caleb 2; 2; 10 mo.

Home Page:

http://www.homestead.com/walter7/index.html

[Guest guest]

>>>- I want to

be invisible and it makes me mad that I am not! <<<

Sorry, sometimes I DO wish I were invisible but what I really

meant to say here was INVINCIBLE!

Lee Ann

[Guest guest]

Within this past month, from the time I found out what my problem is, I have

had to adjust my life's plans. I had to face the fact that the one thing I

thought God was calling me to do will probably not happen. *****Lee Ann

Walter

Or maybe God changed his mind. :-)

I keep reminding myself, " when one door closes, another opens " .

Patty

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 08/16/1999 10:56:25 PM Central Daylight Time,

PHDRWD@... writes:

<< I keep reminding myself, " when one door closes, another opens " .

Patty >>

Can I say AMEN?

Willois (recent college grad at 44)

[Guest guest]

PHDRWD@... wrote:

> From: PHDRWD@...

>

> Within this past month, from the time I found out what my problem is, I have

> had to adjust my life's plans. I had to face the fact that the one thing I

> thought God was calling me to do will probably not happen. *****Lee Ann

> Walter

>

> Or maybe God changed his mind. :-)

>>>>OR, maybe God wants you to find a different way to do it. The saying goes,

" There's always more than one way to skin a cat. "

[Guest guest]

Lee Ann,

Is there anything you can do from home? I know a lot of successfull

people who work from home. One gal is a fabulous writer and does press

releases and public relations work at $40 per hour and has no overhead.

In fact she probably writes off some of her home utility bills! Another

vendor I use in my business is a label printer by trade but makes a ton

of money buying and selling on E-Bay. Just a thought . . .

Dez

[Guest guest]

<< I keep reminding myself, " when one door closes, another

opens " .

Patty >>

That is for sure! That is how life has gone for me so far. I

was listening to Elliot today and she said that

sometimes God throws things into our lives to get our attention.

She compared it to a rose bush. If you don't prune a rose bush

way back it will not grow into a thick beautiful bush of flowers.

It will just go on its own way and with no direction. She said

that God does not give us affliction because he is mad at us but

because he wants us to grow inside to the person he meant us to

be.

>>>>> Willois (recent college grad at 44)<<<<<

,

My husband just graduated and he is 44 too! It too him 13 years

to get through. He worked full time and went to school. He now

has a computer programming degree and a information systems

management degree. He will soon start a computer engineering

course. that will only take 6 months to complete though. You

are never too old! My husband does not suffer from any ailment

but has done a wonderful job of going to school and supporting

us.

Lee Ann

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>>>>OR, maybe God wants you to find a different way to do it.

The saying goes,

" There's always more than one way to skin a cat. "

This is true. Since I have gotten my diagnosis I have had 3

different people contact me for information about adoption. That

may be the direction I am to go in. Am I having a midlife crisis

or what!? I think that may be what this is! Aren't I too young

for that!!

Lee Ann

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>>>Lee Ann,

Is there anything you can do from home? I know a lot of

successfull

people who work from home. One gal is a fabulous writer and does

press

releases and public relations work at $40 per hour and has no

overhead.

In fact she probably writes off some of her home utility bills!

Another

vendor I use in my business is a label printer by trade but makes

a ton

of money buying and selling on E-Bay. Just a thought . . .

Dez<<<

Hi Dez,

I think I may have already started something without realizing

it. I have been getting contacted by agencies trying to place

kids with special needs like Downs syndrome and people wanting to

adopt these kids. I don't now that I would ever get set up as a

business to get paid for doing matches but it is fun! This may

take me in a new direction though.

Lee Ann

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