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I don't think this is correct. The cause of apraxia is not universal.

Some kids have had strokes, some it is metabolic. My kids stuff,

which to be fair, he does not have an official dx except for " Dev

Delay, " some related to a heart thing but the cause of the heart

thing is unknown. Bottom line is many here have done MRIs with no big

findings but some have findings. If I had a finding I would not

assume it is not part of the apraxia, just that it remains unknown if

it is related because apraxia itself has not been studied long enough

for all of these pieces to be fit together or ruled out.

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> If there's something on the MRI, it would not be due to the

> Apraxia/Dyspraxia, because it doesn't show on the CAT or MRI tests

(one of the reasons they

> call it a " hidden disability "

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> so it must be due to something else-- and I would seek out that

reason and

> what it is til you feel satisified by the Dr's answer

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> bek

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> In a message dated 9/15/2008 9:27:25 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> debjward@... writes:

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> hi I was just wondering HOW do I find out if she has apraxia thats

> what are dev ped says but she doesnt seem to know about any causes

or

> much else. Alyssa had a MRI in jan that showed white matter

(small)

> inthe right basal gangila does anyone else have abnormal mri? see

2nd

> neuro in 2wks 1st blew us off basic to genetics. she also has

strabimus

> atrial sdefect,mitrovalve prolapse and soft signs lots.

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<<so if we were to take vitamins or some healthy immune system natural foods

supplements. Would it rev up our immune systems . . . ???>>

In a word, no.  No " natural " supplements are going to " rev up " our immune

systems.  It is natural to look for the simple answers, but autoimmunity is not

a simple condition and sorry, but there are no simple answers.

Need convincing?  See:

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v435/n7042/full/nature03728.html

[or]

http://tinyurl.com/4a7wpb

http://www.autoimmunityresearch.org/

http://rheumatology.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/45/10/1187

[or]

http://tinyurl.com/43m25l

If the autoimmune system could be " revved up " using " natural " supplements

scientists would not be spending millions of dollars seeking solutions involving

stem cells and the like.

The various small companies that push miracle cures are today's version of snake

oil salesmen, and just as snake oil sold out of the back of a wagon didn't cure

anyone's gout vitamin therapies are no cure for PsA.

If anyone comes across a miracle " cure " that appears too good to be true I

encourage you to visit the site below as a means of assessing the possibility

that you are being scammed.

http://www.scamwatch.gov.au/content/index.phtml/tag/MiracleCures

[or]

http://tinyurl.com/3rbaqc

RA

North Jersey

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The problem is not that our immune systems need " revving up " or

boosting but that they need calming down or suppressing. Our problem

is not a weak immune system! Our problem is an over-active immune

system. It must be suppressed in order to control the manifestations

of P and PA. I am not aware of any " natural " treatment that even

claims to suppress the immune system.

It is known that P and PA are programmed into our genes. There is no

food or supplement that can change your genetic makeup. In fact, the

drugs do not change your genes either. That's why PA is

considered " incurable. " But the drugs DO suppress the immune system,

stopping the damage being done to your joints and giving you blessed

relief of the pain by getting at the root of the problem - the over-

active immune system. best regards, sherry z

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Take your pointer finger sideways under his chin and gently push up to

get the /k/ sound.

>

> Does anyone know a good therapy to teach the letter k sound?

> The SLP at school said she is working on it but didn't give us any

> suggestions for what we can do at home to help.

>

> Any tips?

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I don't know about how SLP's teach it, but Shyann was laying on her back,

without a pillow and her tongue was forced by gravity to the back of the throat

just like when people snore. Then we fake snored and that progressed to hard G

and K. Try it your self and it might help you.

Joy

[ ] Question

Does anyone know a good therapy to teach the letter k sound?

The SLP at school said she is working on it but didn't give us any

suggestions for what we can do at home to help.

Any tips?

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Try the fake cough approach. Fake coughing produces hard sounds.

Joy Hansen wrote:

> I don't know about how SLP's teach it, but Shyann was laying on her back,

without a pillow and her tongue was forced by gravity to the back of the throat

just like when people snore. Then we fake snored and that progressed to hard G

and K. Try it your self and it might help you.

> Joy

> [ ] Question

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>

> Does anyone know a good therapy to teach the letter k sound?

> The SLP at school said she is working on it but didn't give us any

> suggestions for what we can do at home to help.

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> Any tips?

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We use a physical " prompt " with the /k/ sound

We take our hand and lay it at the neck when we make that CK sound to remind

him that it's where we use our muscles (basically) to make that sound come

out correctly

it helps with our son who is 4

bek

In a message dated 10/3/2008 7:02:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

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Does anyone know a good therapy to teach the letter k sound?

The SLP at school said she is working on it but didn't give us any

suggestions for what we can do at home to help.

Any tips?

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Are you sure it's not the back of the neck? (at the adam's apple?)

The chin wouldn't quite get that sound from what I know so far

bek

In a message dated 10/3/2008 9:02:11 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

kaycespader@... writes:

Take your pointer finger sideways under his chin and gently push up to

get the /k/ sound.

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In the Prompt method the /d/ sound is under the chin, just past the jaw

bone, the /k/ and /g/ is prompted at the neck, above the adams apple and it

is done quite firmly.

I'm not sure what the age of the child was who is having the problem

learning this sound, but my son tried to get it at age 4. My daughter is

age 2 and just makes no sound when Prompted. Her SLP said that those sounds

aren't yet there at age 2 and it's worth a try, but she didn't expect

success. I think a /d/ substitution is the normal one.

Miche

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 12:49 PM, <tbniesh@...> wrote:

> Are you sure it's not the back of the neck? (at the adam's apple?)

> The chin wouldn't quite get that sound from what I know so far

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> bek

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Sherry, the electrical feeling sounds like what I experience with a pinch

nerve.  It usually goes down a leg or an arm.  As for hot and cold, I've been

getting the cold feet and hands, especially when I'm tired.  I haven't done

anything about it and I did mention it to my hematologist and he didn't really

react.  It was minor compare to our discussion. Everything has an answer so if

it is frustrating you, see another doctor.  Some answers take time. 

Gilchrist <gilchrist414@...>

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Sherry, the National Psoriasis Foundation says that severe psoriasis

can compromise the body's ability to regulate body temperature. From

my own experience and that of many others who've reported the same

thing here in this forum, I suspect that even not-so-severe psoriasis

can also affect this function. The skin is intimately involved in our

body's temp-control mechanism. When our skin is messed up, it's bound

to wreak havoc on all functions related to skin, including this one. I

think it's the disease, not the drugs, causing this. regards,

sherry z

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Well, I kinda thought that it could be the psoriasis but I don't have

it so bad since starting the Enbrel but if I am off it for 2 or 3 weeks

the spots come back, especially my scalp. Actually, the scalp never

clears. I appreciate your response. I was able to get out and mow

the yard today, so far, no really bad pain just the usual aches.

Sherry

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My rheumy specifically asked me if I had any of the electrical shocks

coming from the core of my body. It must be related to PA. He said to

let him know if and when I do.

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<jnachos2000@...> wrote:

<<My rheumy specifically asked me if I had any of the electrical shocks

coming from the core of my body. It must be related to PA. He said to

let him know if and when I do. -.>>

, have you ever experienced anything like that? And, do you have

the temperature control problem? I seldom sleep very long without one

or the other waking me.

Sherry

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I have had a problem with waking up exactly one hour after I fall

asleep--nightly--for several years. I suddenly am wide awake and

usually craving something to eat (leading to a 30-40 lb. weight gain in

3 years) Seems to have developed in past 3-4 years (symptomatic X 10

years, diagnosed w/PsA 2+ years ago). I have lately realized that my

pillow is soaked with sweat when I wake up at these times, but at no

other time at night. I also take testosterone (Androgel) for a

pituitary insufficiency, but my thyroid studies are always normal

(including t3-t4).

Does anyone else have this distinct symptom? Is it a PsA symptom? It

is literally identical in nature, every night-without fail-for several

years. Onset of profuse head sweating has been in the past year.

Also, I have much more profuse sweating with only moderate activity and

a harder time cooling down, even when it's cool (outside or inside in

A/C). Since this temperature issue came up, I thought I'd ask the

list members...

Any comments would be appreciated.

F

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Yep, I have the sweating problem. I am either hot or cold, doesn't

matter the temperature. I keep my house rather cold because it seems

easier to get warm than cool off. Don't know what he problem is. I

get clammy from head to toe but usually wake up and get myself cooled

off. I usually turn the ceiling fan on. It is SO annoying. Sherry

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Hey ,

I have noticed that I have similar, especially when I take my meds late at

night. I am currently on Sulfazine and nabumentone.

I wake up late at night, sweaty pillow., I don't get hungry however. I also

gained 20+ lbs when on prednisone, but lost some a few months after stopping.

mrtom <mrtom303@...>

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I have the problem of night sweats and, until Humira began to get my PA

under good control, I used to wake up every 45-60 minutes all through

the night. Gradually, as the drug began to work better and better, I

have been able to sleep longer periods at a stretch. Usually now I

just wake up every 3 hours. Last night, for the first time in years, I

slept 6 hours straight! I don't think it's a coincidence that we had

temps down into the 30s last night for the first time this season. I

think being cooler helped me sleep better. regards, sherry z

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Hi,

My daughter also had a head that grew " too fast " so we had to have her

checked for hydrocephalus too (ruled out). I think her fast growth did

make her flatness worse since it came before she was sitting up etc.

She had good results from a starband.

In terms of opinions if your daughter needs a band, I would suggest

posting some pics here. Of course it would also be good if your could

get a 2nd opinion in your area, but I don't know any resources there.

If you have measurements that would also help. Our specialist (cranio

facial plastic surgeon) recommends banding at 10mm of asymmetry or

cephalic index of 90% or greater.

-christine

sydney, almost 3 yrs, starband grad

>

> I am looking for some good advise for my 7 month old son. I have

> noticed since he was about 3 months old that he was developing a flat

> spot due to him liking to sleep on his right side. I try to reposition

> him at night but sometimes he goes back to his right side. It has

> improved but still has a flat spot. Also, his head grew too fast,

> according the charts, at the last appointment so we had a ct scan to

> rule out fluid on the brain. It was ruled out but a little bit of

> fluid was found outside the brain but we were told that it is a normal

> variance and nothing was to be done. Yesterday we went to have him

> evaluated to see if he needed a helmet for his flat spot. It felt like

> a they already had their minds made up that they were going to fit him

> for a helment. It did not feel like an evaluation. Me and my husband

> has noticed the flat spot and my mom but no else has noticed it. I

> just don't know if he really needs the helmet or if the place we went

> to just gives everyone a helmet that comes to their place (they sell

> the helmets). The whole appointment was just weird. Does anyone know

> of a place to have your child evaluated near Oklahoma City or have any

> information on the helmets? Any advise would be appreciated.

>

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The only recommendation I can make is to see a child psychiatrist who is very well versed in the Autism Spectrum and Asperger's. Sometimes a neurosychological evaluation can be helpful also. There really isn't a way to get a md to make a diagnosis of one thing or the other. Remember that an IEP and any supports and services should be based on the child's presenting level of need and how it is impacting them in the school environment. I often wonder how many children and adults out there are misdiagnosed....many. Pam :)

a message dated 3/2/2009 6:29:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, LLashley@... writes:

This is where I am fighting right now! I was grateful to get the IEP period, but I am desperately trying to get a better diagnosis from a physician. We saw a worthless developmental pediatrician. I FINALLY have an appt with a child psychiatrist (From Phoenix Children’s Hospital) in April.

Any suggestions from anyone on how to get an AS dx from the md when you believe with your heart and soul that’s what’s going on? (as opposed to simply isolated ADHD/OCD & Anxiety)

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I agree with what you are saying. I didn't realize that your son did have the ED label already. If that was the category that he qualified under that's a different story. I know of many families (myself being one) who were told that the child would be deemed eligible under Emotional Disturbance label when in fact their diagnosis was Aspergers. Pam :)

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With all that being said each persons child is different. Each school is different. Each district, state and country is different so it may be that I am just hugely blessed at my circumstances (which I am). I firmly believe that every parent should fight for their kids to have the best educational experience possible. Do what ever it takes. I guess I just don't like getting hung up on lables.

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> Any suggestions from anyone on how to get an AS dx from the md when you

> believe with your heart and soul that's what's going on? (as opposed to

> simply isolated ADHD/OCD & Anxiety)

You need to go to a professional that has a specialty in autism

spectrum. Ask them. Make sure they don't just have " an interest " !

You will most likely find such a person connected with a hospital

neurobehavioral clinic or autism clinic. You will get a very detailed

evaluation and set of recommendations to give your school from such a

person. Then you get the wonderful fun of trying to get the school to

understand or have any interest in following the recommendations.

Ruth

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I asked the same question when my son needed a diagnosis. I was referred to a

pediatric neurologist.

I have found that while psychs know some about ADD/ADHD, they seem to know very

little about Asperger's.

Just my experience...

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From what I experienced..yes but only at bedtime.

I found that when we first began chelating I and the kids had a harder time

falling asleep if we were on dmsa. So we used melatonin at bed time on rounds

and for a day or two after. As we got up in numbers of rounds...we didn't need

it anymore.

>

> Jan, Dana or TJ is there an added benefit to adding Melatonin to DMSA during

the AC Protocol rounds in the beginning?? Thanks so much~

>

> stace

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