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Not being familiar with the situation I'm just going to throw this out there. Consider having his hearing checked. ASPIES have trouble controlling the modulation of their voices. But if he is always loud he might have an ear wax build up or maybe even some hearing issues. If its loud soft loud soft then ignore this message.

Although my ds hasn't had a real meltdown in quite a long time. He used to when he was in elementary & middle school. He is now almost 18. He goes to bed pretty good for me and gets up usually without a fight. I still find myself having this nagging feeling of resentment some days of ever having him. But then I think of the times that he has brought joy to my life & it washes away those feelings. The one thing I struggle with on a daily basis is constantly telling him to lower the volume of his voice. I have to tell him every few seconds. THIS IS SO FRUSTRATING!!! Some days I think I would rather deal with the meltdowns he used to have.

..:~Anita W~:.

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Just wanted to add to have his inner ear fluid level checked. Having fluid in

the inner ear can make it sound like you are listening from underwater so some

people would talk louder when they have fluid. (Think of having your ears

blocked by congestion from a cold.) But even with the fluid most kids would pass

a regular hearing test.

Have you recorded a conversation with your son? It may help him realize how loud

he is talking if he listened to a recording of himself within the context of a

conversation.

Caroline

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> Although my ds hasn't had a real meltdown in quite a long time. He used to

when he was in elementary & middle school. He is now almost 18. He goes to bed

pretty good for me and gets up usually without a fight. I still find myself

having this nagging feeling of resentment some days of ever having him. But then

I think of the times that he has brought joy to my life & it washes away those

feelings. The one thing I struggle with on a daily basis is constantly telling

him to lower the volume of his voice. I have to tell him every few seconds. THIS

IS SO FRUSTRATING!!! Some days I think I would rather deal with the meltdowns he

used to have.

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> .:~Anita W~:.

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Anita, I posted this earlier. I also have the same problem with my 6yo dd. I'm now working on her voice control with the techniques from the Incredible 5 Point Scale. It's a slow process, but she is responding to it. I I explained to her what each number point meant, (ex. 1=no talking, 2= whisper, 3=talking, 4=yelling, 5=screaming), so when she's yelling or screaming, I just hold up my fingers (3), I don't say anything, unless I have to get her attention to look at me

and she will adjust her volume. The book explains that you can use this with other issues, managing their anger, and describing their moods. The book also talks about using a color chart with the numbers on it that you could pull out and point to the number. Right now just by holding up my fingers it seems to work with her volume control. -From: anita wagner <nitawagner@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Question Date: Monday, November 29, 2010, 8:00 AMAlthough my ds hasn't had a real meltdown in quite a long time. He used to when he was in elementary & middle school. He is now almost 18. He goes to bed pretty good for me and gets up usually

without a fight. I still find myself having this nagging feeling of resentment some days of ever having him. But then I think of the times that he has brought joy to my life & it washes away those feelings. The one thing I struggle with on a daily basis is constantly telling him to lower the volume of his voice. I have to tell him every few seconds. THIS IS SO FRUSTRATING!!! Some days I think I would rather deal with the meltdowns

he used to have.

..:~Anita W~:.

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Grapefruit Seed Extract and Oil of Oregano :-)

Isa

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what is GSE and OoO ? thanks

[Guest guest]

My advice is to wait until he calms down, sit down with him, ask him if he know how much you love him, and once he says yes, tell in a nice and soft way that you don't have any other choice, that when he becomes a parent he will be in the same situation, he will be able to set the rules and endorse them, now you are the parent and he needs to learn to respect that, to respect you and everybody in the house, explain to him how important is respect to you, and explain that it brakes your heart to punish him, BUT you need to do it and you don't have a choice because he broke the rules. I know it is easier said than done specially if he is a teenager,my son was like that when he was 4, now he is 8 and he behaves because he does understand the rules, aspie or non aspie,

there are rules and boundaries to respect. Explain that he needs to learn to control himself and his rages, and that life will be much easier for him if he does that, tell him about counting, or deep breathing, put him in a yoga class (I doubt he will want to) or teach him deep breathing to calm himself down. Do not respond to the rage, because the more attention you give to it the more he will show it. As soon as he gets mad, you have to control yourself, and calmly send him to his room.Good luck and have a happy holiday! From: Jerri Crandall <jerricrandall@...> Sent: Thu, December 23, 2010 2:49:22 PMSubject: ( ) question

I am at such a loss today on what to do. I introduced myself a couple weeks ago. My oldest son just got diagnosed as a aspie last month and it has really taken me for a loop- not that I didnt expect and knew something was wrong- he also has a unspecified mood disorder and ADHD- here is the info for the question. I have been a lurker for the most part because I am so at a loss of what to do here.Today my DS got in trouble for calling me stupid- we have made a rule that stupid, idiot and retarded are not to be name called here in our house. So he was in his room. While in his room he was having a huge rage and screaming. He came out in the call and was yelling and kicked a hole in the wall. We have always told him he would have to pay for damages he has made .

He is 13 and doesn't have a job. He doesn't feel bad about the incident and is mad that I made him put a hole in the wall. Any suggestions. His home rages are really getting to me and everyone else in the house- 3 younger children and DH. He is 13 and 190 lbs and 5' 10" so cant hold him back when he is out of control.Jerri

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I really feel for you. I understand that he doesn't have the words to express

what he is feeling and therefore reacts in the way that he does. One thing that

may help is to use pictures showing expressions and talking about feelings. I

know this is so hard for kids on the spectrum but it worked with my daughter.

Now after years of play acting out feelings and showing pictures and talking

about them she can express herself very nicely. She still has problems with

saying what is on her mind and doesn't think about what she says sometimes. It

is something we are working on and she is 27. Like yesterday we went to the

doctor for her sinus problem (My daughter also is schizophrenic and some of her

conditions are psychological) and when they didn't find anything she told the

doctor it was a waste of time coming and she didn't have to wait an hour to see

him which was a waste and she was very angry when she was saying this. After

getting her to tell the doctor she was sorry for her outburst we went home and

worked with her on when to say things and when not to and why it was rude to do

what she did and how she should have handled it. It takes a lot of work teaching

a child with autism things that other kids pick up on right away. But it is

worth it. Good luck.

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> I am at such a loss today on what to do. I introduced myself a couple weeks

ago.

> My oldest son just got diagnosed as a aspie last month and it has really taken

> me for a loop- not that I didnt expect and knew something was wrong- he also

has

> a unspecified mood disorder and ADHD- here is the info for the question. I

have

> been a lurker for the most part because I am so at a loss of what to do here.

>

> Today my DS got in trouble for calling me stupid- we have made a rule that

> stupid, idiot and retarded are not to be name called here in our house. So he

> was in his room. While in his room he was having a huge rage and screaming. He

> came out in the call and was yelling and kicked a hole in the wall. We have

> always told him he would have to pay for damages he has made . He is 13 and

> doesn't have a job. He doesn't feel bad about the incident and is mad that I

> made him put a hole in the wall. Any suggestions. His home rages are really

> getting to me and everyone else in the house- 3 younger children and DH. He is

> 13 and 190 lbs and 5' 10 " so cant hold him back when he is out of control.

>

> Jerri

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jerri,

I am sorry for what you are going through. I know first-hand what it is like to

live that way, to love your child and see them so out of control and not be able

to help them. My son is 12, has AS and " mood issues " , ADHD, sensory issues,

huge anxiety, etc., and we had years of living like that.

I am going to cut to the chase. I haven't read your introduction, so I don't

know if you are already doing this. If your son is raging out of control (mine

was, for years), I suggest getting a pharmacological evaluation by someone who

is experienced in AS. IMHO- you have to get them to a place where they can

learn interventions and be taught about feelings.

Then, make a plan. This is what I did when my son was at crisis point. It was

the hardest thing I ever did in my life. For me, I would also suggest

researching children's psych hopsitals/floors in hospitals in your area, or out

of your area. Make a plan. Find the ones that are the best and have all of the

phone numbers in hand. If your son gets that out of control again, he is a

danger to himself and others. As the doc at the psych hopital told he, he is

asking for help. Call your top choice hospitals, find who has room, and bring

him to the ER of that hospital (you will save yourself and your son hours of

waiting in a regular ER that won't know how to help him). If you can't get him

to go with you, tell him you will call the police to bring him in an ambulance-

and then do, if you have to. You are asking a professional what is needed; you

aren't making the decision to hospitalize.

No one wants to hear this- I know I didn't. But, my son moved from kicking in

the walls to kicking in my 5 year old daughter's face, with blood splurting

everywhere. And, I had 1:1'd her for more than a year. It happened after I got

her in the car, with my son, and while I went around the car to get in the

driver's seat.

He was in the phosp for 10 days last spring. Again, the hardest thing I ever

did in my life. The admitting doc told me there were 8 or 9 warning behaviors,

not just the one required for admission. I had put this step off for a very

long time, to the detriment of everyone in our family.

I apologize if I am offending you. My son is my son, and your son is a

different person. But, something in your post really struck me. Feel free to

e-mail me at liztt121@.... Good luck.

Liz T.

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> > I am at such a loss today on what to do. I introduced myself a couple weeks

ago.

> > My oldest son just got diagnosed as a aspie last month and it has really

taken

> > me for a loop- not that I didnt expect and knew something was wrong- he also

has

> > a unspecified mood disorder and ADHD- here is the info for the question. I

have

> > been a lurker for the most part because I am so at a loss of what to do

here.

> >

> > Today my DS got in trouble for calling me stupid- we have made a rule that

> > stupid, idiot and retarded are not to be name called here in our house. So

he

> > was in his room. While in his room he was having a huge rage and screaming.

He

> > came out in the call and was yelling and kicked a hole in the wall. We have

> > always told him he would have to pay for damages he has made . He is 13 and

> > doesn't have a job. He doesn't feel bad about the incident and is mad that

I

> > made him put a hole in the wall. Any suggestions. His home rages are really

> > getting to me and everyone else in the house- 3 younger children and DH. He

is

> > 13 and 190 lbs and 5' 10 " so cant hold him back when he is out of control.

> >

> > Jerri

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jerri,

I meant to also say that you may never need to use a crisis plan, and I hope you

never need to. But, I felt more in control having one, and I knew what to do

when things hit the fan, in our case.

Liz T.

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>

> I am at such a loss today on what to do. I introduced myself a couple weeks

ago.

> My oldest son just got diagnosed as a aspie last month and it has really taken

> me for a loop- not that I didnt expect and knew something was wrong- he also

has

> a unspecified mood disorder and ADHD- here is the info for the question. I

have

> been a lurker for the most part because I am so at a loss of what to do here.

>

> Today my DS got in trouble for calling me stupid- we have made a rule that

> stupid, idiot and retarded are not to be name called here in our house. So he

> was in his room. While in his room he was having a huge rage and screaming. He

> came out in the call and was yelling and kicked a hole in the wall. We have

> always told him he would have to pay for damages he has made . He is 13 and

> doesn't have a job. He doesn't feel bad about the incident and is mad that I

> made him put a hole in the wall. Any suggestions. His home rages are really

> getting to me and everyone else in the house- 3 younger children and DH. He is

> 13 and 190 lbs and 5' 10 " so cant hold him back when he is out of control.

>

> Jerri

>

[Guest guest]

Good morning,I'm new to this group so I hope my response wording is appropriate. I am very famiiliar with the au spectrum as an educator and a mother. My son is an Aspie and I have worked in therapeutic schools for roughly twenty years. I absolutely agree about having. Crisis plan ready. It almost always involves removing everyone else from the situation. Have your younger three look for each other and you and then have an agreed upon meeting place. You might not tell your son where that is and depending on your childrens' ages you may change that spot periodically. I would definitely check in with my dic about the violent rages. There are meds to address such issues. Also check in with his therapist and have them come up with other ways to handle his anger. You may even want to get yourself trained in restraint and/ or defense techniques just so you're prepared. You would be surprised what a small person can

do with the right techniques and they are non-violent. I was trained in PMAB and CPI when I worked with raging students. As far as his repayment I'm sure there are a million things he could do around the house that could help repay the cost. I hope at least some of this helps. My son is only six right now. Maybe you can remind me what I said in seven years!God bless, weissOn Dec 29, 2010, at 8:00 AM, "liztt121" <liztt121@...> wrote:

Hi Jerri,

I meant to also say that you may never need to use a crisis plan, and I hope you never need to. But, I felt more in control having one, and I knew what to do when things hit the fan, in our case.

Liz T.

>

>

> I am at such a loss today on what to do. I introduced myself a couple weeks ago.

> My oldest son just got diagnosed as a aspie last month and it has really taken

> me for a loop- not that I didnt expect and knew something was wrong- he also has

> a unspecified mood disorder and ADHD- here is the info for the question. I have

> been a lurker for the most part because I am so at a loss of what to do here.

>

> Today my DS got in trouble for calling me stupid- we have made a rule that

> stupid, idiot and retarded are not to be name called here in our house. So he

> was in his room. While in his room he was having a huge rage and screaming. He

> came out in the call and was yelling and kicked a hole in the wall. We have

> always told him he would have to pay for damages he has made . He is 13 and

> doesn't have a job. He doesn't feel bad about the incident and is mad that I

> made him put a hole in the wall. Any suggestions. His home rages are really

> getting to me and everyone else in the house- 3 younger children and DH. He is

> 13 and 190 lbs and 5' 10" so cant hold him back when he is out of control.

>

> Jerri

>

[Guest guest]

The CDC set up a very high standard to be "technically" positive for lyme.You need 5 of the 14 markers to be positive.

Igenex reports positive of 2 starred bands are present. 41 is starred. 58 in not.,but it is a band for a reason. But, think about it, they say if one of starred is present[like 41] then you have been exposed to B burgdorferi [lyme] So you either have lyme, or you had lyme.

If untreated properly, you probably still have lyme. I got rid of lyme, was positve and went negative, to no bands by use of many treatments, including finally low dose anitbiotics, under the Marshall protocol. LDN took away all residual joint pain. I'm symptom free.and negative on Igenex, 3 times in a row, since 2007.

GOD is good.

From: low dose naltrexone on behalf of liv4him@...Sent: Wed 1/26/2011 7:33 AMlow dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] question

Not sure if this is appropriate to this forum, but since Lyme's has been a topic, I thought I'd throw it out there for what it's worth. I recently mentioned my husband, who has "parkinsonism". I looked up his IGeneX test and compared it to a summary someone sent me (thanks, Bradley!) and he was negative except for the 41kDA (++) and the 58kDa (+).If anyone knows if this is worth pursuing further with his symptoms (noisy swallowing, stiff left arm/hand, foot contractures, masked face, halitosis....), please let me know! I live in South Central NY, so if you know a Lyme's dr. within reach (Syracuse, Binghamton, stown, perhaps), please advise.Thank you & God bless!Michèle

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What's their point about a challenge test? Dangerous and not necessary. Ask

the chiron to explain and I bet he won't be able to other than " that's what your

supposed to do? "

You don't need a prescription for dmsa get it at vrp.com. Why no ALA? Get Andy

Cutlers book and ditch the chiro or dr's who are not necessary.

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> What books should be purchased?

>

> I am going to do DMSA on my spd/speech delayed son. We have the help of a

chiropractor, but he wants to do a challenge test(I've held off of it). But it

seems we are getting to where nothing is helping. My sons having gut issues we

haven't seen in the past, not saying he never had them.

>

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> Is there anything we should do leading up to starting DMSA? Like a yeast

protocol?

>

> Thanks for your time

>

> Sonya.

> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect

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[Guest guest]

From one mom to another nothing will help like chelation.

Yes start of supplementing and start yeast medicines too.Just get the hang of

giving all this to your child and then start low dose protocol of ac

chelation.Its safe and surprisingly good results every week.Best of all you dont

need to pay doctors fee

Kara

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Sent: Mon, February 28, 2011 2:50:45 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Question

What's their point about a challenge test? Dangerous and not necessary. Ask

the chiron to explain and I bet he won't be able to other than " that's what your

supposed to do? "

You don't need a prescription for dmsa get it at vrp.com. Why no ALA? Get Andy

Cutlers book and ditch the chiro or dr's who are not necessary.

>

> What books should be purchased?

>

> I am going to do DMSA on my spd/speech delayed son. We have the help of a

>chiropractor, but he wants to do a challenge test(I've held off of it). But it

>seems we are getting to where nothing is helping. My sons having gut issues we

>haven't seen in the past, not saying he never had them.

>

>

>

> Is there anything we should do leading up to starting DMSA? Like a yeast

>protocol?

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>

> Thanks for your time

>

> Sonya.

> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect

>

[Guest guest]

He hasn't pushed the challenge test. Just said it was the next step. This is a

new area for him, my sons his first " autism " case. In a week of his help my son

started speaking(over 100 words in 4 months)

The chiro has been really good with working with us. Everything(supplements,

hair test, CDSA) leading up to the challenge test has been the " correct steps "

from what I've read from posts in this group. So that's why I want to know which

of Andy's books I should purchase. After I read it I plan on sharing it with

him.

I'm interested in helping my son not harming, that is why I am researching, and

educating myself before the next step.

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What's their point about a challenge test? Dangerous and not necessary. Ask

the chiron to explain and I bet he won't be able to other than " that's what your

supposed to do? "

You don't need a prescription for dmsa get it at vrp.com. Why no ALA? Get Andy

Cutlers book and ditch the chiro or dr's who are not necessary.

>

> What books should be purchased?

>

> I am going to do DMSA on my spd/speech delayed son. We have the help of a

chiropractor, but he wants to do a challenge test(I've held off of it). But it

seems we are getting to where nothing is helping. My sons having gut issues we

haven't seen in the past, not saying he never had them.

>

>

> Is there anything we should do leading up to starting DMSA? Like a yeast

protocol?

>

> Thanks for your time

>

> Sonya.

> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect

>

[Guest guest]

Glad he isnworking for you...what has he done to help your son?

The book you want to buy is Amalgam Illness

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> > What books should be purchased?

> >

> > I am going to do DMSA on my spd/speech delayed son. We have the help of a

chiropractor, but he wants to do a challenge test(I've held off of it). But it

seems we are getting to where nothing is helping. My sons having gut issues we

haven't seen in the past, not saying he never had them.

> >

> >

> > Is there anything we should do leading up to starting DMSA? Like a yeast

protocol?

> >

> > Thanks for your time

> >

> > Sonya.

> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hair strand test. Per that we did detox drops and multivitamin. That's when my

son started talking within a week on starting it. That's when he said cdsa per

that probiotics, enzymes, along with the detox drops and multivitamin. After 6

months another hair test a lot of things that were high, went to the normal

range. That's when the chiro said dmsa. And wanting to do a urine test.

He's always researched at least a week after results are in, explains

everything. How he came to that conclusion. Never pressured us on anything.

Give us time and space to absorb what's talked about during visits. Even has

gone to some classes for autism in children. Has done dmsa on adults, just

never a kid. The chiro has read a few other books I've given him. Always has

spent his time with us anytime we have a question. We are treated like family

Prices I am super happy with. So once I get my facts (andys book) on AC protocol

I believe he will continue to work with us.

What about hair test interpretation, or the bio treatment for autism/pdd books?

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Glad he isnworking for you...what has he done to help your son?

The book you want to buy is Amalgam Illness

> >

> > What books should be purchased?

> >

> > I am going to do DMSA on my spd/speech delayed son. We have the help of a

chiropractor, but he wants to do a challenge test(I've held off of it). But it

seems we are getting to where nothing is helping. My sons having gut issues we

haven't seen in the past, not saying he never had them.

> >

> >

> > Is there anything we should do leading up to starting DMSA? Like a yeast

protocol?

> >

> > Thanks for your time

> >

> > Sonya.

> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect

> >

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[Guest guest]

Your Chiro sounds like a keeper! I would definitely keep working with him.

Anyone who has an open mind is a winner in my book. I prefer to work with

an individual who listens to parents' input and is willing to think outside

the box no matter how much experiences he or she has.

Good luck!

April

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Glad he isnworking for you...what has he done to help your son?

The book you want to buy is Amalgam Illness

> >

> > What books should be purchased?

> >

> > I am going to do DMSA on my spd/speech delayed son. We have the help of

> > a chiropractor, but he wants to do a challenge test(I've held off of

> > it). But it seems we are getting to where nothing is helping. My sons

> > having gut issues we haven't seen in the past, not saying he never had

> > them.

> >

> >

> > Is there anything we should do leading up to starting DMSA? Like a yeast

> > protocol?

> >

> > Thanks for your time

> >

> > Sonya.

> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect

> >

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[Guest guest]

Thanks. He has been a blessing. I've used him for my back. But the day I walked

in there for help for my son. While I told them what we had been dealing with

since I kept it so private He was quiet. At the end he said to be patient with

him but he was going to help us.

I didn't know where to turn because as you all know it takes awhile to find the

right help. What made it a bit harder was my son has no label. He's not autistic

per his therapists. Just a delay in speech and some sensory seeking. The

sensory seeking would be the only ASD symptom.

The chiro does nutrition so I knew I was on the right track. We are really

lucky

But like said should I get any of the other books any has ?

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Your Chiro sounds like a keeper! I would definitely keep working with him.

Anyone who has an open mind is a winner in my book. I prefer to work with

an individual who listens to parents' input and is willing to think outside

the box no matter how much experiences he or she has.

Good luck!

April

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Glad he isnworking for you...what has he done to help your son?

The book you want to buy is Amalgam Illness

> >

> > What books should be purchased?

> >

> > I am going to do DMSA on my spd/speech delayed son. We have the help of

> > a chiropractor, but he wants to do a challenge test(I've held off of

> > it). But it seems we are getting to where nothing is helping. My sons

> > having gut issues we haven't seen in the past, not saying he never had

> > them.

> >

> >

> > Is there anything we should do leading up to starting DMSA? Like a yeast

> > protocol?

> >

> > Thanks for your time

> >

> > Sonya.

> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect

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[Guest guest]

Sonya,

A challenge test will only move metals around and deposit them elsewhere and

cause more damage. Chealtors should be dosed on their half-lives and then

round the clock for about 72 hours.

We did the challenge tests. We did IV. these caused some regressions in

our son, and IV caused some serious reactions.

I suggest you read Dr. Andy Cutler's book " Amalgam Inness, " and get

familiar with the AC Protocol for low dose, frequent chelation.

[Guest guest]

My son regressed a lot from DMSA oral chelation.

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Haven DeLay

Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:09 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Question

Sonya,

A challenge test will only move metals around and deposit them elsewhere and

cause more damage. Chealtors should be dosed on their half-lives and then

round the clock for about 72 hours.

We did the challenge tests. We did IV. these caused some regressions in

our son, and IV caused some serious reactions.

I suggest you read Dr. Andy Cutler's book " Amalgam Inness, " and get

familiar with the AC Protocol for low dose, frequent chelation.

[Guest guest]

You need to clarify your statment regarding dmsa chelation. Low dose, high

dose, DAN protocol?

>

> My son regressed a lot from DMSA oral chelation.

>

>

>

> From: [mailto: ]

> On Behalf Of Haven DeLay

> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:09 PM

>

> Subject: Re: [ ] Question

>

>

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>

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> Sonya,

>

> A challenge test will only move metals around and deposit them elsewhere and

> cause more damage. Chealtors should be dosed on their half-lives and then

> round the clock for about 72 hours.

>

> We did the challenge tests. We did IV. these caused some regressions in

> our son, and IV caused some serious reactions.

>

> I suggest you read Dr. Andy Cutler's book " Amalgam Inness, " and get

> familiar with the AC Protocol for low dose, frequent chelation.

>

>

[Guest guest]

How was it dosed? Based on the half life? Was yeast addressed? What about

mineral support?

>

> My son regressed a lot from DMSA oral chelation.

>

>

>

> From: [mailto: ]

> On Behalf Of Haven DeLay

> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:09 PM

>

> Subject: Re: [ ] Question

>

>

>

>

>

> Sonya,

>

> A challenge test will only move metals around and deposit them elsewhere and

> cause more damage. Chealtors should be dosed on their half-lives and then

> round the clock for about 72 hours.

>

> We did the challenge tests. We did IV. these caused some regressions in

> our son, and IV caused some serious reactions.

>

> I suggest you read Dr. Andy Cutler's book " Amalgam Inness, " and get

> familiar with the AC Protocol for low dose, frequent chelation.

>

>

[Guest guest]

What dose, route, dosing schedule were you using? How many mercury amalgam

dental fillings does/did he have?

S S

Re: Question

Posted by: " Kazuko Grace " gracekazuko@... kazukocurtin

Tue Mar 1, 2011 1:41 pm (PST)

My son regressed a lot from DMSA oral chelation.

[Guest guest]

Hi Everyone,

I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in

BUT..

I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little

joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place

where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big

one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away

gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger.

I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node

and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda

freaked out.

Thank you.

cooky

[Guest guest]

Sally, Cooky

since my RA and Dermatomyositis is going slowly into remission I notice that my

" dragon ridges " on my arms have decreases in size. I used to have a real big one

on the back of my elbow, that also has shrunk . The nodules were the first one

to appear about 7 years ago, but I wasn't sick then and they thought it was some

kind of allergy, If I had only known then that it was RA and I could get into

remission with antibiotic I would have started then.

I am using Cal-Mag with Boron. Boron is supposed to help with Magnesium to get

into the bones.

Eva

From: Cooky Stonkey <cookee1@...>

Subject: RE: rheumatic question

rheumatic

Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 4:05 PM

 

Sally, how long have you had this? Mine is still painful if I push on it

even a little but last week I could not even let a blanket cross over it. Yes I

read they are sort of rare. I hope it will go away soon…better yet I hope I

don’t I get anymore.

As for your bones. I’m not sure if they will straighten out. I want to say yes

because I have had fingers straighten and toes that did not. Now I am having

some (ankle knuckles and toes) that I don’t think are going to get better.

Humbling? NO just determined J))

Are you noticing anything since your IV’s?

Hugs

cooky

From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf Of

mannasal@...

Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 4:46 PM

rheumatic

Subject: Re: rheumatic question

well Cookie, I can't help you, but unfortunately join you. A few inches down

frommy right elbow, I have a nodule about the size of a pea. For awhile, it was

getting smaller and softer, but now maintains the pea size and definately feel

the bone (or whatever a nodule is??) I read that with Ra, about 20% people will

get them. So maybe after awhile on AP, these will go away?? It is sad and scarey

watching the body change....bones in leg have buckled? and I look like I'm knock

kneed and other bones don't look or feel right. Can they untwist?

Humbling, isn't it..................sally

rheumatic question

Hi Everyone,

I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in

BUT..

I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little

joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place

where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big

one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away

gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger.

I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node

and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda

freaked out.

Thank you.

cooky

[Guest guest]

Aw Eva thank you. You said the magic words! So glad to know someone is getting

rid of these things at this time.

I can only do mag topically…. which is what I do… as it causes me bad

diarrhea. I take a good multi with boron. Thanks for the info.

hugs

cooky

From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf Of

Eva Holloway

Sally, Cooky

since my RA and Dermatomyositis is going slowly into remission I notice that my

" dragon ridges " on my arms have decreases in size. I used to have a real big one

on the back of my elbow, that also has shrunk . The nodules were the first one

to appear about 7 years ago, but I wasn't sick then and they thought it was some

kind of allergy, If I had only known then that it was RA and I could get into

remission with antibiotic I would have started then.

I am using Cal-Mag with Boron. Boron is supposed to help with Magnesium to get

into the bones.

Eva