Guest guest Posted November 29, 2000 Report Share Posted November 29, 2000 how did you find out you had this? what is the test they do? is it blood test? for the leaky gut and for Candida. Is thgere anyway your gut can heal itself? Also do any of you have a problem eating mustard? It makes me violently illa s does most citrus? am i unique in this? Also I think this is a side note but honestly not sure. Art has a friend who is alergic to dairy and tomatoes, he gets the same reaction when he eats either, anyone have nay idea what is in both thast would upset him so. he gets really bad stomack pain " bathroom problems " can't see straight, gets disfunctional mainly. any ideas would be great. When thinking about it last night we thought he might have this, but not sure. S. I may get stuck a lot in life, but at least I stick with it:) Re: Leaky gut On 29 Nov 00, at 8:32, Stuck wrote: > EWWWWWWWW! so it's like an ulser? Not quite - it's not generally all that painful, because it's lots and lots of tiny holes rather than one big one, but it can cause major problems with the immune system if left untreated. Ho hum. Ann ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.willow-web.net Quality Web Design ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2000 Report Share Posted November 29, 2000 On 29 Nov 00, at 10:54, lynga1@... wrote: > intestines also exist BEFORE the yeast dies, so it's not necessarily just > holes from the roots that allows the undigested food particles to pass > though. I think this happened to me - I was reacting to foods for months, but things got dramatically worse as my candida died. Typical! > I am going through this myself right now, and will begin taking > L-Glutamine in a week or so, as soon as I get to my fave health-food store > to get some. I got some yesterday. Why's it kept in the body-building section?! > http://www.folkarts.com/idef/leaky%5Fgut.htm. I couldn't get to this - got a 404. the rest of that site looks uselful though - thanks! I've put those two new recipes up, incidentally - should I add a ntoe saying that a lot of us can't tolerate cream cheese? Ann ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.willow-web.net Quality Web Design ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2000 Report Share Posted November 29, 2000 This page seems *very* uselful! http://www.health-n-energy.com/ronagut.htm Ann ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.willow-web.net Quality Web Design ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2000 Report Share Posted November 29, 2000 Well your gut does have holes in it than you do need to build up your body again. corney? maybe but that aslo might be thier logic? I may get stuck a lot in life, but at least I stick with it:) Re: Re: Leaky gut On 29 Nov 00, at 10:54, lynga1@... wrote: > intestines also exist BEFORE the yeast dies, so it's not necessarily just > holes from the roots that allows the undigested food particles to pass > though. I think this happened to me - I was reacting to foods for months, but things got dramatically worse as my candida died. Typical! > I am going through this myself right now, and will begin taking > L-Glutamine in a week or so, as soon as I get to my fave health-food store > to get some. I got some yesterday. Why's it kept in the body-building section?! > http://www.folkarts.com/idef/leaky%5Fgut.htm. I couldn't get to this - got a 404. the rest of that site looks uselful though - thanks! I've put those two new recipes up, incidentally - should I add a ntoe saying that a lot of us can't tolerate cream cheese? Ann ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.willow-web.net Quality Web Design ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2000 Report Share Posted December 1, 2000 In a message dated 11/30/00 8:16:15 PM, you wrote: <<Hi, If I do have leaky gut & candida, could this in any way contribute to my very high LDL ? I had been cutting way back on fatty foods before my cholesterol test because for awhile I thought I might have gallbladder problems>> ****I'd think that it COULD add to that, since you are not properly digesting your food, but I'm not an authority. I DO know that fish oils are VERY effective in lowering cholesterol and blood lipids. I'd try to find an MD in your area who specializes in digestion and nutrition, and see what he thinks. I have an " alternative MD finder " web-site book marked in my other computer, and I will send it to the list later today. That otta help you find a doctor who can help you with these issues. It's for sure that TRADITIONAL doctors can't/won't. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2000 Report Share Posted December 1, 2000 >> In Leon Chaitow's book - Candida Albicans he recommends taking Permatrol > (BioCare) to heal a 'leaky gut'. >Thanks, Barbara, that's useful - I've got that book too, but my mum's borrowed it and has had it for ages! I've never found Biocare products locally, but will bear it in mind and keep my eyes open for it. I started taking L-Glutamine yesterday, so we'll see how I get on with that. Biocare is a UK company - nice for me as that's where I come from. <grin> I've never seen their products in any UK health food store. I only know about them because my allergy therapist uses them. You can buy their products over the net from a supplier in the UK. What I found interesting is that the supplier sells the products cheaper than I can get them direct from Biocare. Barbara LOST DOGS UK (List of Lost & Stolen Dogs) http://www.pavilion.co.uk/lostdogsuk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2000 Report Share Posted December 1, 2000 On 1 Dec 00, at 16:13, Barbara wrote: > Biocare is a UK company - nice for me as that's where I come from. <grin> Me too! I'm in Cardiff (but Swansea born and bred, I hasten to add!). > You can buy their products over the net from a supplier in the UK. Aha. Would you mind sending me the url? I've done a search for Biocare but no joy. Incidentally, I've just been looking at the Lost Dogs page from your signature - what a brilliant idea. I've bookmarked it, and will make sure I spread the word about it. We lost one of our cats this summer - she was locked in a garage and came back fairly rapidly - but it was AWFUL. All the best, Ann ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.willow-web.net Quality Web Design ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2000 Report Share Posted December 1, 2000 I had high LDL and as my yeast came down so did that althou my Dr. had me take medicine for it but the pills didn't budge it till my yeast came down. i was at 360. now i'm at 195. Mogdrmom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2000 Report Share Posted December 2, 2000 H, Would leaky gut make the globulin part of the blood profile read high.? Mine has been higher than the norm, doctor said not to worry, just a little more protein in your blood. First I ommitted ALL sugars for 48 hrs. I felt better so started taking Para Esserntials(GNC) & Primadopholis & Kyolic ,while still ommiting sugar & yeast. I felt so good, I forgot I am sick & went off my diet for Thanksgiving weekend (bigtime ). I'm back on track but still don't feel really well. Could the yeast have gotten resistant already ? I have taken the supplements for 10 days. I have caprylic acid on order.Is it really true that parathyroid problem could keep you from getting rid of yeast ?. My blood calcium level is normal., but would that necessarily mean my parathyroid was working properly.? I have osteoporosis & I know the parathyroid could affect this too. (I bet this leaky gut contributes to this too ).Lora Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2000 Report Share Posted December 3, 2000 In a message dated 11/29/00 6:44:28 AM Central Standard Time, Sstuck@... writes: << What the heck is a leaky gut? Do I really want to know? >> Candida is a bacteria that lives in the intestines (normally). When there is an imbalance of candida, it can become systemic. This means that the bacteria form of candida has changed to the fungus form (it has grown rootlets). The fungus attaches itself to the intestinal walls and breaks through to get into the bloodstream. There it travels to other parts of the body/organs, etc. and infects those parts. When it breaks through the lining of the intestinal wall, other substances can get through like allergens, etc. One of the first signs of leaky gut, for me, was colitis, irritable bowel syndrome, abdominal pain after eating, diarrhea/constipation. Shortly after that, I developed sinus problems which I didn't find out til years later were related to allergies.....and on and on the symptoms go.... ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2000 Report Share Posted December 3, 2000 In a message dated 12/3/00 1:56:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, AnglGodes1@... writes: > Candida is a bacteria that lives in the intestines (normally). When there is > > an imbalance of candida, it can become systemic. This means that the > bacteria form of candida has changed to the fungus form (it has grown > rootlets). The fungus attaches itself to the intestinal walls and breaks > through to get into the bloodstream. There it travels to other parts of the > > body/organs, etc. and infects those parts. > ******This is all correct, EXCEPT for the fact that candida is a FUNGUS, not a bacteria. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2000 Report Share Posted December 3, 2000 In a message dated 11/29/00 11:25:43 AM Central Standard Time, ann.williams@... writes: << I've put those two new recipes up, incidentally - should I add a ntoe saying that a lot of us can't tolerate cream cheese? >> I don't think this recipe is appropriate for candida sufferers. It's not a matter of tolerating cream cheese or not. I can tolerate it. In fact, I love it. That's one of my problems with staying on the diet. However, it feeds the candida. Even my least conservative candida sources say stay away from all sugar and dairy (except cottage cheese. Yet most would say stay away from cottage cheese also). I don't think the recipe should be listed as an Anti-candida recipe because it's misleading. It feeds the candida. ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2000 Report Share Posted December 3, 2000 In a message dated 12/3/00 1:00:42 PM Central Standard Time, lynga1@... writes: << ******This is all correct, EXCEPT for the fact that candida is a FUNGUS, not a bacteria. >> Are you sure? I was told by several sources that candida is a bacteria that CAN turn into a fungus. It doesn't always turn into a fungus, though. ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2000 Report Share Posted December 3, 2000 In a message dated 12/3/00 4:07:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, pete.jacob@... writes: > > > Are you sure? I was told by several sources that candida is a bacteria > that > > CAN turn into a fungus. It doesn't always turn into a fungus, though. > > ******I'm POSITIVE! It is a yeast in it's usual form, and as it becomes more chronic, it grows " roots " and becomes a fungus. Whoever told you it was a bacteria is mis-informed. In fact, anti-biotics (which KILL bacteria) only make candida worse. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2000 Report Share Posted December 3, 2000 It's a Yeast that can turn into a fungus Pete Re: Leaky gut > In a message dated 12/3/00 1:00:42 PM Central Standard Time, lynga1@... > writes: > > << ******This is all correct, EXCEPT for the fact that candida is a FUNGUS, > not a bacteria. > >> > > Are you sure? I was told by several sources that candida is a bacteria that > CAN turn into a fungus. It doesn't always turn into a fungus, though. > > ~ > > > Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2000 Report Share Posted December 4, 2000 It's a YEAST that can turn into a fungus, not a bacterium. It's called 'dimorphism' - something that can exist in two forms. Bacteria can't do this. Ann On 3 Dec 00, at 15:16, AnglGodes1@... wrote: > Are you sure? I was told by several sources that candida is a bacteria > that CAN turn into a fungus. It doesn't always turn into a fungus, > though. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.willow-web.net Quality Web Design ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2000 Report Share Posted December 10, 2000 "leaks" out of the intestinal walls and into other parts of the body, enabling particles of food to travel with it. I never have heard or read a decent definition, have just figured out mine above based on lots of information I have been able to find through the years on candida. Just when you think you know a little, something comes up that you haven't a clue about!What is leaky gut?ToniIn the encylopedia of Natual Medicine there are three references to leaky gut all stating that food allergies are the cause. It is mentioned in the section about irritable bowel, asthma eczema. That was all I could find for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2000 Report Share Posted December 10, 2000 > > In the encylopedia of Natual Medicine there are three > references to leaky gut all stating that food allergies are > the cause. It is mentioned in the section about irritable > bowel, asthma eczema. That was all I could find for now. > > Of course - to me - this means eating for our 'type'! We certainly would do away with all kinds of health problems if we would stick with what Dr D says (and by probably including his supplements). Now, I know there have been discussions about some of these foods not agreeing with us. But, that's where we have to listen to our bodies. And we can always have a Serotype Panel done which pinpoints it even better. love, k > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2000 Report Share Posted December 10, 2000 ----Original Message Follows---- Interesting, for my understanding is that the leaky gut CAUSES the food allergies, for when the candida creates holes in the intestinal walls, the food particles and substances as well as yeast that leaks through cause all kinds of adverse reactions in the system, from allergies of all kinds to quite severe disease symptoms of various kinds. But I don't claim to be an expert on this, keep in mind.... Yes, I agree with this - the candida comes first, then all the other problems arise. Isn't this also the syndrome they warn us about re: Olestra and getting uncontrollable diarrhea and embarrassing accidents? Isn't this because of the intense spasms of the colon due to intestinal irritation, and then this too is called leaky gut? I may be confusing two different ailments. But I too have read that the candida is the initial culprit! Juni ________________________________________________________________________________\ _____ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2001 Report Share Posted January 10, 2001 > Hi All, > > I just read an article on Leaky Gut Syndrome at the web site for Great > Smokeys Diagnostic Laboratory: www.gsdl.com There is an excellent > article there. The doctor who wrote it maintains that Leaky Gut (caused > mainly by NSAIDS like ibuprofen and also antibiotics) is the precursor > to CFS and FM; candida is usually found with a leaky gut, but candida > itselt doesn't cause FM or CFS (according to this doctor.) He says the > buildup of toxins in the liver forces toxins to reside elsewhere, such as > in the joints (FM.) I'm wondering if you all know this stuff. Anyway, > this doctor goes into a lengthy protocol for treating the condition with > Chinese herbs, a topic I'm completely unfamiliar with. It's uplifting to > read nonetheless because it gives me hope that this stuff is > surmountable. I'm somewhat familiar with this concept since I read the candida FAQ at: http://www.infosky.net/~alexmi/candida.htm I had stool test done at gsdl, which I feel was 'good'/worthwhile test. My kenisiologist thinks gsdl is a great lab, as do I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2001 Report Share Posted January 12, 2001 Hi there. I would like to know the name of the doctor. Greetings. Claudio From: globe_amaranth@... Reply-candidiasisegroups candidiasisegroups Subject: Leaky Gut Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 10:47:24 -0500 Hi All, I just read an article on Leaky Gut Syndrome at the web site for Great Smokeys Diagnostic Laboratory: www.gsdl.com There is an excellent article there. The doctor who wrote it maintains that Leaky Gut (caused mainly by NSAIDS like ibuprofen and also antibiotics) is the precursor to CFS and FM; candida is usually found with a leaky gut, but candida itselt doesn't cause FM or CFS (according to this doctor.) He says the buildup of toxins in the liver forces toxins to reside elsewhere, such as in the joints (FM.) I'm wondering if you all know this stuff. Anyway, this doctor goes into a lengthy protocol for treating the condition with Chinese herbs, a topic I'm completely unfamiliar with. It's uplifting to read nonetheless because it gives me hope that this stuff is surmountable. Best wishes, Marabel ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2002 Report Share Posted May 20, 2002 Hi all, Thanks wcr2ew for the reminder of what I really needed for the MCS. I have it and it is about to drive me mad! I really like 's book, it explains things in a simple way. Anyway, I am on my way to get some NAC and glutamine tomorrow. By the way, I am not getting e-mails since May 16, anyone else going through the same? I e-mailed an hour ago to hopefully get it solved. UUUGGHHH!!! God bless, KJ > I don't remeber who asked, but I got the book out and here is what it > says is protocol for repairing the small intestine > " Increasing use of antioxidant nutrients such as E, selenium, N- > acetyl cysteine, superoxide dismutase, zinc, manganese, copper, Co Q > 10, lipoic acid and vit C... Supportive nutrients can help repair the > mucosal lining directly. Glutamine is the preferred food of the > cells of the small intestine. Dosages can range from 1 gram to 30 > grams daily, depending on your needs. Other nutients and supplements > that are helpful include: gamma-oryzanol, seacure, Vit A, vit C > panthothenic Acid (B5), deglycyrrhized licorice, folic acid, > concentrated whey immuno-globulin concentrated, schizandra, and > zinc. " Later in the book it talks about using vit C flushes to help > detox the body, strengthen the immune system and rebalance intestinal > flora. > Apparently (according to this book) there is a correlation between > leaky gut and chemical sensitivity. The book again is " Digestive > Wellness " by Lipski M.S., C.C.N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 Hi Kickie! I am on it right now, and I'll be darned, after only 1 week, I am seeing an improvement! Shoshana > Hi Everyone, > > Has anyone ever tried " Permeability Factors? " It's supposed to help > LGS? > > Thanks, > > Kickie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 Here is an EXCELLENT site for LGS, it is in PDF form so if you have adobe reader you should be able to read it easily. www.johnsondrug.com/pdf/gut.pdf Hope it helps.... Angie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 see article at mdheal.com, Dr Leo Galland leaky gut Can anyone recommend anything for leaky gut - I take L-glutamine but wondered if there is anything better. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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