Re: cow's milk vs. human milk (was ruminant fat is unique)

April 6, 2002

At 11:06 PM 4/5/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>I'm slightly skeptical, too, since many healthy

>cultures consumed tons of cow dairy, but OTOH I don't know how early

>children were started on cow dairy, and they certainly nursed a lot longer

>than most kids nowadays.

Actually there is more evidence for early goat herding than cow herding:

some archeologists think goats were about the first domesticated animals

(after dogs). Goats are a LOT easier to keep than cows, and eat a larger

variety of foods. In my goat-farmer book it states that most animals can be

raised on goat milk, but not cow milk, so it's a good idea to keep a goat

or two around for raising, say, orphaned piglets. Human babies, however,

would need a little more folic acid than goat milk provides: an infant that

lost it's mother usually got a " wet nurse " (shared another mother) in most

cultures, maybe supplemented with milk.

Heidi Schuppenhauer

Trillium Custom Software Inc.

heidis@...

April 6, 2002

Suze-

>So, do you think that too much reliance on cow's milk (as opposed to

>mother's milk) in growing infants might hinder brain development? Thoughts

>on any of this?

I don't know, but I'm somewhat skeptical about their claim that human milk

is so low in fat. We know that women eating a SAD give milk that is low in

fat, but that women eating a healthy traditional diet give a much fattier

milk. Are there any figures on the fat content of such mothers' milks?

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April 7, 2002

>> We know that women eating a SAD give milk that is low in

fat, but that women eating a healthy traditional diet give a much

fattier

milk. Are there any figures on the fat content of such mothers' milks?

<<

Don't know about numbers, but I know women who can make butter from

their expressed milk!

~ Carma ~

To be perpetually talking sense runs out the mind, as perpetually

ploughing and taking crops runs out the land. The mind must be manured,

and nonsense is very good for the purpose. ~ Boswell

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April 8, 2002

In a message dated 4/8/02 1:44:33 PM Central Daylight Time,

heidis@... writes:

> Given the choice of " owning a cow " or " owning a goat " , I'd pick

> the goat any day! However, I don't know how or if you can make butter from

> goat milk: I hear it's naturally homogenized.

>

> I'm trying to convince my daughter to join the " dairy goat " section of 4H

> so we learn how to really keep goats and go for the milk. I'm not sure

> about actually milking them twice a day! How has your experience with them

> been?

>

> -- Heidi

>

We have both cows and goats for dairy and meat. I find the goats easier to

get along with.

You can make butter from goat's milk. The difficulty comes in getting the

cream out of the milk, you need a separator and they can run you some money

altho we found one on Ebay pretty cheap, it's an antique.

Belinda

LaBelle Acres

www.labelleacres.com

April 8, 2002

I have always read that most of the world's population drink goat milk. It

makes sense to me to try to drink goat's milk because the animal is closer to

our size. A kid goat weighs about 8# when born and our Saanens reach a weight

of 150-200# at maturity. A calf is born at about 100# and will reach a weight

well over 1000# in most breeds. When comparing these two animals it just makes

sense to try and drink milk from the animal that is comparable in weight.

As far as raising other animals with goat milk, the saying that goat's milk is

good for orphaned animals is very true. We have personally helped people raise

and orphaned deer and foal. They did very well on the milk.

I can't count the times people have told me how they were raised on goat milk,

because they were sickly or they knew someone that had it as baby and would have

died without it!

Shari

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From: Heidi Schuppenhauer

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