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In a message dated 3/28/02 9:14:11 AM,

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<< A common nutrition myth is that sugar spikes the blood sugar, but it

does not. Fructose is low on the glycemic index, as is lactose. Pure

glucose is the highest, while refined starches (glucose chained

together) comes in second. Sucrose, with one glucose and one

fructose, is fairly average on the glycemic index. So sugar does not

spike your blood sugar.

>>

Although are right that sucrose lies between glucose and fructose on the

glycemic index and thus does not lead to an insulin response as fast a pure

glucose, our bodies are quite handy at taking apart the diglyceride sucrose

and turning both the glucose element and the fructose element into blood

glucose which does spike insulin -- all carbos (high glycemic or low, complec

or simple) and to some extent protein invoke an insulin response. Sucrose or

white bread is often used as the standard upon which other carbos are

measured as either high or low. They are both considered high.

Namaste, Liz

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I think the " apparent " confusion on this topic is simply one of

perspective or semantics. I believe that the statement about sugar

not " spiking " blood sugar levels was based on the notion that in a

healthy person there will not be such an unstable sharp response to

sugar consumption. So the " cause " label is more accurately placed

with " poor response " by the body than " poor consumption " on the

person. While in many physiology breakdown situations this idea of

the " cause " being " poor response " is true. The flip side is that you

will be hard pressed to find a SINGLE person today who has these

sugar/carbohydrate mechanisms fully functional and not hyperreactive.

So from a practical viewpoint nearly the entire population when

exposed to sucrose, glucose, fructose, starch or the like will have a

hyper blood sugar response which certainly while not technically sound

in pronouncing the " poor food " as a cause of the hyper reactivity from

a day to day practical perspective it is an accurate assessment in

that you'll be hard pressed not to find this line of activity

happening in most everyone to some degree. Yes in our perfect state

these substances would not have nearly the impact they do today,

however in the spirit of being realistic which at times is more

important than being pinpoint accurate, that perfect state which I'm

certain has existed in the past. At this time in our history is as

much fantasy as the easter bunny. I believe the state can be restored

however to date there is no evidence to suggest such an

accomplishment has occured on a cultural level.

Sincerely,

DMM

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> In a message dated 3/28/02 9:14:11 AM, @y...

> writes:

>

> << A common nutrition myth is that sugar spikes the blood sugar, but it

>

> does not. Fructose is low on the glycemic index, as is lactose. Pure

>

> glucose is the highest, while refined starches (glucose chained

>

> together) comes in second. Sucrose, with one glucose and one

>

> fructose, is fairly average on the glycemic index. So sugar does not

>

> spike your blood sugar.

>

> >>

> Although are right that sucrose lies between glucose and fructose on

the

> glycemic index and thus does not lead to an insulin response as

fast a pure

> glucose, our bodies are quite handy at taking apart the diglyceride

sucrose

> and turning both the glucose element and the fructose element into

blood

> glucose which does spike insulin -- all carbos (high glycemic or

low, complec

> or simple) and to some extent protein invoke an insulin response.

Sucrose or

> white bread is often used as the standard upon which other carbos are

> measured as either high or low. They are both considered high.

>

> Namaste, Liz

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Sucrose or

> white bread is often used as the standard upon which other carbos

are

> measured as either high or low. They are both considered high.

>

> Namaste, Liz

Small correction: glucose or white bread are the two standards. If

white bread seperates foods as being high or low, then sucrose is low

at 89. Fructose is very, very low.

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>So from a practical viewpoint nearly the entire population when

>exposed to sucrose, glucose, fructose, starch or the like will have a

>hyper blood sugar response which certainly while not technically sound

>in pronouncing the " poor food " as a cause of the hyper reactivity from

>a day to day practical perspective it is an accurate assessment in

>that you'll be hard pressed not to find this line of activity

>happening in most everyone to some degree. Yes in our perfect state

>these substances would not have nearly the impact they do today,

While someone in a perfect state of health wouldn't have a dramatic

reaction to one dose of refined starch or sugar, if you switched his diet

from its ideal state to a diet high in refined carbs, pretty soon those

refined carbs would stress his system to the point that he would have that

reaction, so I don't think it's unfair or inaccurate to say refined carbs

are the (primary) cause.

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> Sucrose or

> > white bread is often used as the standard upon which other carbos

> are

> > measured as either high or low. They are both considered high.

> >

> > Namaste, Liz

>

> Small correction: glucose or white bread are the two standards. If

> white bread seperates foods as being high or low, then sucrose is

low

> at 89. Fructose is very, very low.

<<<<<<<<<<<<Maybe you've already covered this but isn't white bread a

poor standard? Dennis

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Wow! This is fascinating. I thought sugar of any type would raise insulin.

I would really appreciate it if you would explain more. Is there some book

I could read that explains this? I have a family history of diabetes (Late

adult onset Type II), although my sugar has been very normal so far.

From: " Dr. Marasco " <mmarasco@...>

Reply-

Subject: Re: I need a good idea for breakfast for a

exerciser. ( i seem to not feel so good )

Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:02:51 -0000

I don't know if we've discussed this before or not. What you

are discribing is not uncommon, its usually present with certain

folks on low carb diets. Essentially the protein elicits an insulin

response of sorts. Realize that insulin not only moves sugar from

the blood it also moves amino acids which is why insulin is present

even without carb consumption. The problem is when you wake in the

morning your blood sugar is already low from the nights fasting. You

then consume protein which places some insulin in cirulation which

results in further lowering of blood sugar, this essentially induces

a hypoglycemic state which correlates with your description. The way

to offset this is to eat some carbohydrate with your egg bfast

preferrably some fruit (ie. berries, cherries) this will provide a

small amount of sugar for the blood and in turn will not result in

the hypoglycemic state and in addition the fructose will have a small

inhibitory effect on the insulin response. I hope this helps.

DMM

> > > > That's funny yogabud how different people are. I was soaking

> > mixed

> > > rolled

> > > > grains overnight then warming them in the morning and eating

> them

> > > with raw

> > > > cream and a little maple syrup. I thought this was an

> excellent

> > > breakfast

> > > > (still do) but it was making me feel like crap. So i switched

> to

> > > soft-boiled

> > > > eggs over a rye cracker with lots of raw butter and feel

> > > wonderful! So maybe

> > > > if you try my old breakfast idea you will feel good.

> > > > Elaine

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