Re: Survey: is your family with you on NT?

April 5, 2002

My partner drinks a pot of coffee, a 6 pack of Cokes and smokes 2-3 packs of

cigs a day. Now what was the question? <G>

Belinda

LaBelle Acres

www.labelleacres.com

April 6, 2002

> My partner drinks a pot of coffee, a 6 pack of Cokes and smokes 2-3

packs of

> cigs a day. Now what was the question? <G>

>

> Belinda

> LaBelle Acres

> www.labelleacres.com

>

> Maybe Coke is the real thing! I don't think so but it tastes good

for awhile. I'm doing the NT maneuvering in my family and starting

sunday I'm trying something similar to Lierre's menu working those

crockpots into the kitchen. You see I hobby (farm) 'til 4PM on

weekdays then go to the city job in the evening ('til 1 or 2 AM).

Anyway I'm cooking the food (homegrown NT style I hope)in crockpots

leaving at 4pm or so and going to " manipulate " the family into eating

and cleaning after themselves. IF the place doesn't pass inspection

by my return I have to get them out of their comfort zone(bed) for

more show and tell. Some one has told me I'm not the only Indian on

this Reservation (out here on the farm) however, there has to be some

structure! Best regards, Dennis

April 6, 2002

At 04:33 PM 4/5/2002 -0700, you wrote:

>How many of you are doing NT as a family or have someone in the family

>who is significantly opposed? My husband thinks I'm wacky, but pretty

>much lets me do what I want . until it hits the pocketbook too hard.

>Then he gets upset. He also doesn't like me " wasting " too much time

>doing that wacky stuff. Interesting though - he's really enjoyed all the

>NT-type food I've cooked so far!

>

>~ Carma ~

My guy had a great quote:

" I don't much care what's on the table, as long as I'm not the one who has

to put it there " .

Of course, I'm not at the raw-steak stage, and I haven't forced him to eat

kimchi! Our meals still seem " normal " enough to everyone: I don't see many

basic differences between the NT recipes and the " home style " recipes of my

childhood. He loves the idea of kefir -- he used to make yogurt in the

70's, and the kefir is easier, and he's game for changing oils etc. And of

course the beef I get really is better by any standard, and cheaper. Our

food bill has gone DOWN considerably, though I got a lot of new cookware at

first. What has suprised me is that he hasn't really asked for evidence on

anything: he says if I research it then he believes it, which I take as

high praise. His health has noticably improved, which may be part of his

compliance. His only issue has been that since we are wheat-free, he has

trouble finding snack foods.

The kids don't care much as long as we have goodies now and then: and

frankly the homemade goodies they prefer to packaged ones. A trip to a

fast-food place now and then, however, seems to be necessary.

Heidi Schuppenhauer

Trillium Custom Software Inc.

heidis@...

April 6, 2002

Your case is very similar to mine. My dh says he believes for the most part

that what I am doing is correct. However, he winces when he sees what I pay for

beef and how far I drive for milk. He also doesn't like the tone of a lot of

the articles I have him read. He thinks they are written in a sensationalist

way, (including nt), rather that like a white paper. He also believes that if

this stuff were really as good as I say it is, then everyone would be asking for

it. He's suspicious that almost no one knows about it. He believes stongly

that the market only supplies what people want so we shouldn't blame it on

big-business. We should blame it on ignorance and apathy of the consumer, I

guess. He eats most of what I make but he is adamant that meat should be cooked

well. I have to reread that whole thread about parasites and understand why its

okay to eat raw meat, then make my case. Its a constant struggle. One thing

in our favor -- this new lifestyle has allowed him to buy a big tractor. He

always wanted one but never had a reason. Now we are moving to 14 acres and

will have a huge garden, so he's happy about his new toy. The kids are pretty

good but they do like fruit a lot. I don't really know how to eliminate sugar

for them. I'm trying to just slowly reduce it. My bigger struggle is when a

friend starts asking why we eat this way -- where do you start to explain??

C.

From: Carma Paden

Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 5:33 PM

Subject: Survey: is your family with you on NT?

How many of you are doing NT as a family or have someone in the family

who is significantly opposed? My husband thinks I'm wacky, but pretty

much lets me do what I want . until it hits the pocketbook too hard.

Then he gets upset. He also doesn't like me " wasting " too much time

doing that wacky stuff. Interesting though - he's really enjoyed all the

NT-type food I've cooked so far!

~ Carma ~

To be perpetually talking sense runs out the mind, as perpetually

ploughing and taking crops runs out the land. The mind must be manured,

and nonsense is very good for the purpose. ~ Boswell

Carma's Corner: http://www.users.qwest.net/~carmapaden/

April 6, 2002

At 06:40 AM 4/6/02 -0600, you wrote:

My bigger struggle is when a friend starts asking why we eat this way --

where

do you start to explain??

>

> C.

Because its the closest foods present today that have worked for the longest

time in human history.

Wanita

If a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it

expects what never was and never will be.

- Jefferson

April 7, 2002

My husband is totally with me on this. He doesn't

have time to do nutritional research but he is

interested in it, and he trusts my ability to buy,

grow and make healthy food for us, and a lot of what

we do " just seems right " to him. He's also not

opposed to paying more for high-quality food, sees it

as an investment in future health (no, we're not rich,

but apparently we have different priorities than most

people and are willing to spend a larger portion of

our budget on good food). He knows as well as I do

that the cheap food in the grocery store is

artificially cheap, and living on it would be more

expensive in the long run, both in terms of lower

quality (and perhaps quantity) of life and higher

medical bills. He loves just about everything I cook,

and all the NT-style food.

Our son is only 2 1/2, so he's not old enough to know

the difference between our diet and other people's. I

know it can be a challenge raising kids with a diet

that's not average, when they see their friends eating

twinkies and swilling soda. I'll cross that bridge

when I come to it.

Aubin

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April 7, 2002

>

> A certain young man who has been visiting our house absolutely

loves everything I make, and as long as it tastes good to him, he is

all for it.

I may be wrong (me?), but I can't imagine that there's a man on the

planet who wouldn't be thrilled to find his SO going on a health kick

that involves lots of red meat and butter!

April 8, 2002

--- justinbond <justin_bond@...> wrote:

>

> I may be wrong (me?), but I can't imagine that

> there's a man on the

> planet who wouldn't be thrilled to find his SO going

> on a health kick

> that involves lots of red meat and butter!

And cream, and cheese, and homemade bread, etc.

Aubin

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April 8, 2002

You are SO LUCKY!!! It's a constant battle at our house. My husband is

convinced I'm trying to kill everyone with the food that's soaking and

fermenting on the countertops and he's positive we are all going to end up

having open heart surgery if I keep hiding the butter and coconut oil in the

vegies. For the first seven years of our marriage we were on a fat free,

almost no meat diet. Making the switch from fake food to real food has been

a challenge. And the increased price of buying organic hasn't helped the

situation a whole lot. My kids are great though. I just need to come up with

more finger foods that can be kept in the pantry cupboard so when they have

friends over there's snack foods they can help themselves too.

April 8, 2002

I have the same challenge with needing snack foods. So far our favorites are:

fruit leathers

pistachios

hard boiled eggs

fruit of any kind

homemade applesauce (big hit)

smoothies

popcorn

celery with peanut butter (the pb is a bit of a problem though)

cheese chunks and apple slices together

homemade ice cream

fried apples with whip cream

Some of them require a little preparation but I will gladly do it if they will

eat it. I keep a list of possible snack foods on the fridge door to help us

remember the options. Let me know if you have others.