Re: Total Communication VS Oral

[Guest guest]

It was love at first sight (on both sides!). Dan and I also felt the most

comfortable with the AVT center than at any other program.

I have only visited one school. Ian seemed so comfortable and like he was

just in awe. He had a great time. All the older kids looked so happy

there. (We had to walk through the school)

>

>Use the time to investigate your options, see how your son interacts with

the adults and others in the programs, and go with your gut. It also helps

to talk to other families in your area. I still follow the advice that

others have given to look for an older HOH kid with the traits you hope your

child develops/strengthens, then go track down the parents to find out how

they did that. I've met some great people that way, and learned all kinds

of important things as a result.

Thats a great idea.

>

>Has your audi given/sold you the tools to replace the tubing in the

earmold? We have extra sets of tubes, needlenose pliers, and a tube

expander that we now travel with to replace those tubes (the downside of

having cool earmolds is that, with most materials, the tubing can not be

glued to the earmold and can be pulled out if you tug hard enough).

>

Nope, but I will definately ask. Thanks!

Tawnya

[Guest guest]

Oh, the reason she sent that is because Ian ripped his tubing OUT of his ear

mold. So I have to drive back to the ENT and have it fixed.

Tawnya

Re: Total Communication VS Oral

>on 11/29/04 4:55 PM, dawkdd@... at dawkdd@... wrote:

>

>> Has your audi given/sold you the tools to replace the tubing in the

earmold?

>> We have extra sets of tubes, needlenose pliers, and a tube expander that

we

>> now travel with to replace those tubes (the downside of having cool

earmolds

>> is that, with most materials, the tubing can not be glued to the earmold

and

>> can be pulled out if you tug hard enough).

>>

>> Good luck,

>> kerry

>

>I have never had to replace the tubing in my son's earmolds -- how often

>have you had to do this? It has never occurred to me to have/request extra

>sets of tubes, and I've never heard of a tube expander. What would make me

>need to have this?

>

>Just curious; I have done virtually nothing with my son's earmolds, but

>every time I hear about what other people do, I think I must be missing the

>boat!

>

>Stefanie

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, the reason she sent that is because Ian ripped his tubing OUT of his ear

mold. So I have to drive back to the ENT and have it fixed.

Tawnya

Re: Total Communication VS Oral

>on 11/29/04 4:55 PM, dawkdd@... at dawkdd@... wrote:

>

>> Has your audi given/sold you the tools to replace the tubing in the

earmold?

>> We have extra sets of tubes, needlenose pliers, and a tube expander that

we

>> now travel with to replace those tubes (the downside of having cool

earmolds

>> is that, with most materials, the tubing can not be glued to the earmold

and

>> can be pulled out if you tug hard enough).

>>

>> Good luck,

>> kerry

>

>I have never had to replace the tubing in my son's earmolds -- how often

>have you had to do this? It has never occurred to me to have/request extra

>sets of tubes, and I've never heard of a tube expander. What would make me

>need to have this?

>

>Just curious; I have done virtually nothing with my son's earmolds, but

>every time I hear about what other people do, I think I must be missing the

>boat!

>

>Stefanie

>

>

>

>All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post

is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to

copyright restrictions.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, the reason she sent that is because Ian ripped his tubing OUT of his ear

mold. So I have to drive back to the ENT and have it fixed.

Tawnya

Re: Total Communication VS Oral

>on 11/29/04 4:55 PM, dawkdd@... at dawkdd@... wrote:

>

>> Has your audi given/sold you the tools to replace the tubing in the

earmold?

>> We have extra sets of tubes, needlenose pliers, and a tube expander that

we

>> now travel with to replace those tubes (the downside of having cool

earmolds

>> is that, with most materials, the tubing can not be glued to the earmold

and

>> can be pulled out if you tug hard enough).

>>

>> Good luck,

>> kerry

>

>I have never had to replace the tubing in my son's earmolds -- how often

>have you had to do this? It has never occurred to me to have/request extra

>sets of tubes, and I've never heard of a tube expander. What would make me

>need to have this?

>

>Just curious; I have done virtually nothing with my son's earmolds, but

>every time I hear about what other people do, I think I must be missing the

>boat!

>

>Stefanie

>

>

>

>All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post

is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to

copyright restrictions.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Okay, he is only 1 right? We had to work through the process. We first picked

total communication because she had a moderate hearing loss and we wanted to be

able to communicate with her during the time she was learning language. Well,

after a year of trying sign with her. She refused to use any signs. She

understood them all but she would just use cries, grunts, learned a few word

approximations and pointing but would not sign. We tried hand over hand with

her and no luck. She would not budge. So we had her implanted and then just

dropped the sign. She is a much happier child and is doing just great.

I think that I would agree with your audi that you would not have to use sign

with your son but I am not telling you to take that from him either. Even

though we chose oral for our approach with Annika I am one of the parents that

would say do what works for your family. But in my opinion for sign to work

then your whole family needs to be using the sign most of the time. Even when

you are not speaking directly to your child. I think that is the one thing that

we did not follow through with 100% . Your child will want to communicate as

you are. At least that has been my experience. Annika saw us using our oral

language more than our sign so she just naviagated to this. Also she was born

hearing and I believe there is something with a child who was born using hearing

and oral and then loses their hearing vs a child who has never heard before.

Just my little comment

Mom of 4

Marcus 14

12

Jon 10

Annika 2.5

bilaterally implanted 3/1/04

hookup 3/25/04

spastic diaplegic CP

Total Communication VS Oral

Ok, I am going through the process of picking a school for my kiddo.

I have no idea how to choose between oral and TC. Our Audi says he doesnt

need signing since he is mild/mod.

How did you folks chose?

I am not trying to pick a fight, I just have no idea how to go about

chosing.

I have to pick between the JWOPSD (Oral) or CEID, TC, or the school in

Fremont.

Thanks!

Tawnya

Ian, 1, just pulled the tube OUT of his ear mold

, 3 1/2

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Okay, he is only 1 right? We had to work through the process. We first picked

total communication because she had a moderate hearing loss and we wanted to be

able to communicate with her during the time she was learning language. Well,

after a year of trying sign with her. She refused to use any signs. She

understood them all but she would just use cries, grunts, learned a few word

approximations and pointing but would not sign. We tried hand over hand with

her and no luck. She would not budge. So we had her implanted and then just

dropped the sign. She is a much happier child and is doing just great.

I think that I would agree with your audi that you would not have to use sign

with your son but I am not telling you to take that from him either. Even

though we chose oral for our approach with Annika I am one of the parents that

would say do what works for your family. But in my opinion for sign to work

then your whole family needs to be using the sign most of the time. Even when

you are not speaking directly to your child. I think that is the one thing that

we did not follow through with 100% . Your child will want to communicate as

you are. At least that has been my experience. Annika saw us using our oral

language more than our sign so she just naviagated to this. Also she was born

hearing and I believe there is something with a child who was born using hearing

and oral and then loses their hearing vs a child who has never heard before.

Just my little comment

Mom of 4

Marcus 14

12

Jon 10

Annika 2.5

bilaterally implanted 3/1/04

hookup 3/25/04

spastic diaplegic CP

Total Communication VS Oral

Ok, I am going through the process of picking a school for my kiddo.

I have no idea how to choose between oral and TC. Our Audi says he doesnt

need signing since he is mild/mod.

How did you folks chose?

I am not trying to pick a fight, I just have no idea how to go about

chosing.

I have to pick between the JWOPSD (Oral) or CEID, TC, or the school in

Fremont.

Thanks!

Tawnya

Ian, 1, just pulled the tube OUT of his ear mold

, 3 1/2

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[Guest guest]

Thats one thing I was concerned about. Because of course Grandparents, etc

would not be signing.....Tough decision!

Tawnya

Re: Total Communication VS Oral

>Okay, he is only 1 right? We had to work through the process. We first

picked total communication because she had a moderate hearing loss and we

wanted to be able to communicate with her during the time she was learning

language. Well, after a year of trying sign with her. She refused to use

any signs. She understood them all but she would just use cries, grunts,

learned a few word approximations and pointing but would not sign. We tried

hand over hand with her and no luck. She would not budge. So we had her

implanted and then just dropped the sign. She is a much happier child and

is doing just great.

>

>I think that I would agree with your audi that you would not have to use

sign with your son but I am not telling you to take that from him either.

Even though we chose oral for our approach with Annika I am one of the

parents that would say do what works for your family. But in my opinion for

sign to work then your whole family needs to be using the sign most of the

time. Even when you are not speaking directly to your child. I think that

is the one thing that we did not follow through with 100% . Your child will

want to communicate as you are. At least that has been my experience.

Annika saw us using our oral language more than our sign so she just

naviagated to this. Also she was born hearing and I believe there is

something with a child who was born using hearing and oral and then loses

their hearing vs a child who has never heard before. Just my little comment

>

>

>Mom of 4

>Marcus 14

> 12

>Jon 10

>Annika 2.5

>bilaterally implanted 3/1/04

>hookup 3/25/04

>spastic diaplegic CP

>

> Total Communication VS Oral

>

>

> Ok, I am going through the process of picking a school for my kiddo.

>

> I have no idea how to choose between oral and TC. Our Audi says he

doesnt

> need signing since he is mild/mod.

>

> How did you folks chose?

>

> I am not trying to pick a fight, I just have no idea how to go about

> chosing.

>

> I have to pick between the JWOPSD (Oral) or CEID, TC, or the school in

> Fremont.

>

> Thanks!

> Tawnya

> Ian, 1, just pulled the tube OUT of his ear mold

> , 3 1/2

>

>

>

> All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post

is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to

copyright restrictions.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, that was part of our problem too. One set of grandparents were learning

sign but the other set took their time and wanted us to sign for them all the

time. This would not work real well, at least not for us.

Total Communication VS Oral

>

>

> Ok, I am going through the process of picking a school for my kiddo.

>

> I have no idea how to choose between oral and TC. Our Audi says he

doesnt

> need signing since he is mild/mod.

>

> How did you folks chose?

>

> I am not trying to pick a fight, I just have no idea how to go about

> chosing.

>

> I have to pick between the JWOPSD (Oral) or CEID, TC, or the school in

> Fremont.

>

> Thanks!

> Tawnya

> Ian, 1, just pulled the tube OUT of his ear mold

> , 3 1/2

>

>

>

> All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post

is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to

copyright restrictions.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am hesitant to reply to this because I don't want to offend anyone, but I

will give you my honest, personal opinion, and just know that it doesn't mean

I don't acknowledge and respect other opinions as well. To me, if your son

is only one year old and mild/moderate, if you take him to JWOPSD, he will

learn to communicate orally and be able to mainstream with little support by

Kindergarten. You will also be able to have an easier time communicating with

him about complex subjects by that time than you would with sign language

(mostly because it takes us adults a long time to become truly fluent and from

what I saw with my son while we signed with him, the kid will likely pass you

by). Of course he will also be able to communicate with other family members

more easily. When we were signing with Neal, my mom learned a little, my

Dad attempted to, and others just asked what Neal was saying when he was

signing. Now Neal's grandparents, aunts, uncles, great grandparents, you name

it,

talk to him and understand him, and he understands them. Sign language is

beautiful and I hope to learn it better and have Neal learn it as well later in

life, but as far as choosing a primary language to focus on early on, we

have gone the oral route and are happy with it.

~Rhonda~

Mom to Audrey, 7, hearing & Neal, 5, CII at 2.9 years

[Guest guest]

I am hesitant to reply to this because I don't want to offend anyone, but I

will give you my honest, personal opinion, and just know that it doesn't mean

I don't acknowledge and respect other opinions as well. To me, if your son

is only one year old and mild/moderate, if you take him to JWOPSD, he will

learn to communicate orally and be able to mainstream with little support by

Kindergarten. You will also be able to have an easier time communicating with

him about complex subjects by that time than you would with sign language

(mostly because it takes us adults a long time to become truly fluent and from

what I saw with my son while we signed with him, the kid will likely pass you

by). Of course he will also be able to communicate with other family members

more easily. When we were signing with Neal, my mom learned a little, my

Dad attempted to, and others just asked what Neal was saying when he was

signing. Now Neal's grandparents, aunts, uncles, great grandparents, you name

it,

talk to him and understand him, and he understands them. Sign language is

beautiful and I hope to learn it better and have Neal learn it as well later in

life, but as far as choosing a primary language to focus on early on, we

have gone the oral route and are happy with it.

~Rhonda~

Mom to Audrey, 7, hearing & Neal, 5, CII at 2.9 years

[Guest guest]

I am hesitant to reply to this because I don't want to offend anyone, but I

will give you my honest, personal opinion, and just know that it doesn't mean

I don't acknowledge and respect other opinions as well. To me, if your son

is only one year old and mild/moderate, if you take him to JWOPSD, he will

learn to communicate orally and be able to mainstream with little support by

Kindergarten. You will also be able to have an easier time communicating with

him about complex subjects by that time than you would with sign language

(mostly because it takes us adults a long time to become truly fluent and from

what I saw with my son while we signed with him, the kid will likely pass you

by). Of course he will also be able to communicate with other family members

more easily. When we were signing with Neal, my mom learned a little, my

Dad attempted to, and others just asked what Neal was saying when he was

signing. Now Neal's grandparents, aunts, uncles, great grandparents, you name

it,

talk to him and understand him, and he understands them. Sign language is

beautiful and I hope to learn it better and have Neal learn it as well later in

life, but as far as choosing a primary language to focus on early on, we

have gone the oral route and are happy with it.

~Rhonda~

Mom to Audrey, 7, hearing & Neal, 5, CII at 2.9 years

[Guest guest]

The biggest suggestion I can give when trying to make a decision between 2

programs is to visit each of the programs you're considering. As others have

suggested, watch how your child reacts and interacts with the other

children, and ask lots of questions, but equally and perhaps even more

important is to ask to see some of the older kids of this program and see

what they're doing - because this is where your child will be in a few

years. Are they doing what you hope your child will be doing?

In theory, every program can sound wonderful. What counts is how it is

applied and carried out, and you can see their results by watching the kids

who have been in the program for a couple of years. We did this when we were

debating whether to put JD in a TC program (didn't know that, did you?). We

visited the classroom for kids who were a couple years above where he was.

The day was (and this is for the first grade) talk about making a cake,

watch a video about making a cake, make a cake, talk about making the cake,

eat the cake they made. Somewhere in there they had to do 1 math sheet

(count the dots in the square...there were 3) and 1 reading sheet (6 large

letters on the sheet and they were to circle the large B with a blue

crayon). That's it, that was their day. At the time, JD was able to read, do

simple addition, and so much more than these kids were doing. I was later

told by the director that even if they were to put him in the 5th grade

class, he still would be doing things academically that the other kids were

not doing. Ruled that program out in a hurry.

So, when presented with options, check them out in person, ask questions,

visit not only where he would be now, but where he would be in a couple of

years.

Hugs,

Kay

[Guest guest]

The biggest suggestion I can give when trying to make a decision between 2

programs is to visit each of the programs you're considering. As others have

suggested, watch how your child reacts and interacts with the other

children, and ask lots of questions, but equally and perhaps even more

important is to ask to see some of the older kids of this program and see

what they're doing - because this is where your child will be in a few

years. Are they doing what you hope your child will be doing?

In theory, every program can sound wonderful. What counts is how it is

applied and carried out, and you can see their results by watching the kids

who have been in the program for a couple of years. We did this when we were

debating whether to put JD in a TC program (didn't know that, did you?). We

visited the classroom for kids who were a couple years above where he was.

The day was (and this is for the first grade) talk about making a cake,

watch a video about making a cake, make a cake, talk about making the cake,

eat the cake they made. Somewhere in there they had to do 1 math sheet

(count the dots in the square...there were 3) and 1 reading sheet (6 large

letters on the sheet and they were to circle the large B with a blue

crayon). That's it, that was their day. At the time, JD was able to read, do

simple addition, and so much more than these kids were doing. I was later

told by the director that even if they were to put him in the 5th grade

class, he still would be doing things academically that the other kids were

not doing. Ruled that program out in a hurry.

So, when presented with options, check them out in person, ask questions,

visit not only where he would be now, but where he would be in a couple of

years.

Hugs,

Kay

[Guest guest]

The biggest suggestion I can give when trying to make a decision between 2

programs is to visit each of the programs you're considering. As others have

suggested, watch how your child reacts and interacts with the other

children, and ask lots of questions, but equally and perhaps even more

important is to ask to see some of the older kids of this program and see

what they're doing - because this is where your child will be in a few

years. Are they doing what you hope your child will be doing?

In theory, every program can sound wonderful. What counts is how it is

applied and carried out, and you can see their results by watching the kids

who have been in the program for a couple of years. We did this when we were

debating whether to put JD in a TC program (didn't know that, did you?). We

visited the classroom for kids who were a couple years above where he was.

The day was (and this is for the first grade) talk about making a cake,

watch a video about making a cake, make a cake, talk about making the cake,

eat the cake they made. Somewhere in there they had to do 1 math sheet

(count the dots in the square...there were 3) and 1 reading sheet (6 large

letters on the sheet and they were to circle the large B with a blue

crayon). That's it, that was their day. At the time, JD was able to read, do

simple addition, and so much more than these kids were doing. I was later

told by the director that even if they were to put him in the 5th grade

class, he still would be doing things academically that the other kids were

not doing. Ruled that program out in a hurry.

So, when presented with options, check them out in person, ask questions,

visit not only where he would be now, but where he would be in a couple of

years.

Hugs,

Kay

[Guest guest]

Well, per the discussion yesterday with his TOD, I think we are going the

Oral route. Ian is just one but already very oral. He babbles all the time

and she says he shows great speech skills. He copies pitch and the length.

Yesterday he said CAT. So although I will visit the CEID school, I agree

with your opinion. If he would like to learn signing he definately can, but

for now I think we are going the oral route.

Thanks so much to everyone. You got me talking to everyone and really

making sure I was getting all the info.

Tawnya

Re: Total Communication VS Oral

>I am hesitant to reply to this because I don't want to offend anyone, but I

>will give you my honest, personal opinion, and just know that it doesn't

mean

>I don't acknowledge and respect other opinions as well. To me, if your

son

>is only one year old and mild/moderate, if you take him to JWOPSD, he will

>learn to communicate orally and be able to mainstream with little support

by

>Kindergarten. You will also be able to have an easier time communicating

with

>him about complex subjects by that time than you would with sign language

>(mostly because it takes us adults a long time to become truly fluent and

from

>what I saw with my son while we signed with him, the kid will likely pass

you

>by). Of course he will also be able to communicate with other family

members

>more easily. When we were signing with Neal, my mom learned a little, my

>Dad attempted to, and others just asked what Neal was saying when he was

>signing. Now Neal's grandparents, aunts, uncles, great grandparents, you

name it,

>talk to him and understand him, and he understands them. Sign language is

>beautiful and I hope to learn it better and have Neal learn it as well

later in

>life, but as far as choosing a primary language to focus on early on, we

>have gone the oral route and are happy with it.

>~Rhonda~

>Mom to Audrey, 7, hearing & Neal, 5, CII at 2.9 years

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, per the discussion yesterday with his TOD, I think we are going the

Oral route. Ian is just one but already very oral. He babbles all the time

and she says he shows great speech skills. He copies pitch and the length.

Yesterday he said CAT. So although I will visit the CEID school, I agree

with your opinion. If he would like to learn signing he definately can, but

for now I think we are going the oral route.

Thanks so much to everyone. You got me talking to everyone and really

making sure I was getting all the info.

Tawnya

Re: Total Communication VS Oral

>I am hesitant to reply to this because I don't want to offend anyone, but I

>will give you my honest, personal opinion, and just know that it doesn't

mean

>I don't acknowledge and respect other opinions as well. To me, if your

son

>is only one year old and mild/moderate, if you take him to JWOPSD, he will

>learn to communicate orally and be able to mainstream with little support

by

>Kindergarten. You will also be able to have an easier time communicating

with

>him about complex subjects by that time than you would with sign language

>(mostly because it takes us adults a long time to become truly fluent and

from

>what I saw with my son while we signed with him, the kid will likely pass

you

>by). Of course he will also be able to communicate with other family

members

>more easily. When we were signing with Neal, my mom learned a little, my

>Dad attempted to, and others just asked what Neal was saying when he was

>signing. Now Neal's grandparents, aunts, uncles, great grandparents, you

name it,

>talk to him and understand him, and he understands them. Sign language is

>beautiful and I hope to learn it better and have Neal learn it as well

later in

>life, but as far as choosing a primary language to focus on early on, we

>have gone the oral route and are happy with it.

>~Rhonda~

>Mom to Audrey, 7, hearing & Neal, 5, CII at 2.9 years

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, per the discussion yesterday with his TOD, I think we are going the

Oral route. Ian is just one but already very oral. He babbles all the time

and she says he shows great speech skills. He copies pitch and the length.

Yesterday he said CAT. So although I will visit the CEID school, I agree

with your opinion. If he would like to learn signing he definately can, but

for now I think we are going the oral route.

Thanks so much to everyone. You got me talking to everyone and really

making sure I was getting all the info.

Tawnya

Re: Total Communication VS Oral

>I am hesitant to reply to this because I don't want to offend anyone, but I

>will give you my honest, personal opinion, and just know that it doesn't

mean

>I don't acknowledge and respect other opinions as well. To me, if your

son

>is only one year old and mild/moderate, if you take him to JWOPSD, he will

>learn to communicate orally and be able to mainstream with little support

by

>Kindergarten. You will also be able to have an easier time communicating

with

>him about complex subjects by that time than you would with sign language

>(mostly because it takes us adults a long time to become truly fluent and

from

>what I saw with my son while we signed with him, the kid will likely pass

you

>by). Of course he will also be able to communicate with other family

members

>more easily. When we were signing with Neal, my mom learned a little, my

>Dad attempted to, and others just asked what Neal was saying when he was

>signing. Now Neal's grandparents, aunts, uncles, great grandparents, you

name it,

>talk to him and understand him, and he understands them. Sign language is

>beautiful and I hope to learn it better and have Neal learn it as well

later in

>life, but as far as choosing a primary language to focus on early on, we

>have gone the oral route and are happy with it.

>~Rhonda~

>Mom to Audrey, 7, hearing & Neal, 5, CII at 2.9 years

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tawnya,

It is good that you are visiting all of the schools in your area.

One piece of advice our parent-infant teacher of the deaf gave us a

long time ago was that in order to be able to argue for placement in

a particular school out of district, you absolutely must visit the

program your county or town has to offer so that you are able to

make the argument that their program does not meet your child's

needs. Otherwise, if you don't visit the local program, the school

district can always call you on that and insist that they can

provide the same services as the expensive private school you have

your eye on, because after all, you have not visited the local

program so how can you say they don't?

(However, as we once discussed, here in Massachusetts, there can be

a barrier to visiting public out-of-district programs without the

local district's approval. I did not find that to be true in

California where you are. The only problem we had with visiting

other programs was a public school that was too full to take out of

district students.)

Lydia

, 8-year-old CI user

Colin, 11, hearing

[Guest guest]

Tawnya,

It is good that you are visiting all of the schools in your area.

One piece of advice our parent-infant teacher of the deaf gave us a

long time ago was that in order to be able to argue for placement in

a particular school out of district, you absolutely must visit the

program your county or town has to offer so that you are able to

make the argument that their program does not meet your child's

needs. Otherwise, if you don't visit the local program, the school

district can always call you on that and insist that they can

provide the same services as the expensive private school you have

your eye on, because after all, you have not visited the local

program so how can you say they don't?

(However, as we once discussed, here in Massachusetts, there can be

a barrier to visiting public out-of-district programs without the

local district's approval. I did not find that to be true in

California where you are. The only problem we had with visiting

other programs was a public school that was too full to take out of

district students.)

Lydia

, 8-year-old CI user

Colin, 11, hearing

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Tawnya,

It is good that you are visiting all of the schools in your area.

One piece of advice our parent-infant teacher of the deaf gave us a

long time ago was that in order to be able to argue for placement in

a particular school out of district, you absolutely must visit the

program your county or town has to offer so that you are able to

make the argument that their program does not meet your child's

needs. Otherwise, if you don't visit the local program, the school

district can always call you on that and insist that they can

provide the same services as the expensive private school you have

your eye on, because after all, you have not visited the local

program so how can you say they don't?

(However, as we once discussed, here in Massachusetts, there can be

a barrier to visiting public out-of-district programs without the

local district's approval. I did not find that to be true in

California where you are. The only problem we had with visiting

other programs was a public school that was too full to take out of

district students.)

Lydia

, 8-year-old CI user

Colin, 11, hearing

[Guest guest]

We don't have a public school program. So this is really our only school

option.

Tawnya

Re: Total Communication VS Oral

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>Tawnya,

>It is good that you are visiting all of the schools in your area.

>One piece of advice our parent-infant teacher of the deaf gave us a

>long time ago was that in order to be able to argue for placement in

>a particular school out of district, you absolutely must visit the

>program your county or town has to offer so that you are able to

>make the argument that their program does not meet your child's

>needs. Otherwise, if you don't visit the local program, the school

>district can always call you on that and insist that they can

>provide the same services as the expensive private school you have

>your eye on, because after all, you have not visited the local

>program so how can you say they don't?

>

>(However, as we once discussed, here in Massachusetts, there can be

>a barrier to visiting public out-of-district programs without the

>local district's approval. I did not find that to be true in

>California where you are. The only problem we had with visiting

>other programs was a public school that was too full to take out of

>district students.)

>

>Lydia

>, 8-year-old CI user

>Colin, 11, hearing

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[Guest guest]

We don't have a public school program. So this is really our only school

option.

Tawnya

Re: Total Communication VS Oral

>

>Tawnya,

>It is good that you are visiting all of the schools in your area.

>One piece of advice our parent-infant teacher of the deaf gave us a

>long time ago was that in order to be able to argue for placement in

>a particular school out of district, you absolutely must visit the

>program your county or town has to offer so that you are able to

>make the argument that their program does not meet your child's

>needs. Otherwise, if you don't visit the local program, the school

>district can always call you on that and insist that they can

>provide the same services as the expensive private school you have

>your eye on, because after all, you have not visited the local

>program so how can you say they don't?

>

>(However, as we once discussed, here in Massachusetts, there can be

>a barrier to visiting public out-of-district programs without the

>local district's approval. I did not find that to be true in

>California where you are. The only problem we had with visiting

>other programs was a public school that was too full to take out of

>district students.)

>

>Lydia

>, 8-year-old CI user

>Colin, 11, hearing

>

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>

>

>

>

>

>

>All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post

is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to

copyright restrictions.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

We don't have a public school program. So this is really our only school

option.

Tawnya

Re: Total Communication VS Oral

>

>Tawnya,

>It is good that you are visiting all of the schools in your area.

>One piece of advice our parent-infant teacher of the deaf gave us a

>long time ago was that in order to be able to argue for placement in

>a particular school out of district, you absolutely must visit the

>program your county or town has to offer so that you are able to

>make the argument that their program does not meet your child's

>needs. Otherwise, if you don't visit the local program, the school

>district can always call you on that and insist that they can

>provide the same services as the expensive private school you have

>your eye on, because after all, you have not visited the local

>program so how can you say they don't?

>

>(However, as we once discussed, here in Massachusetts, there can be

>a barrier to visiting public out-of-district programs without the

>local district's approval. I did not find that to be true in

>California where you are. The only problem we had with visiting

>other programs was a public school that was too full to take out of

>district students.)

>

>Lydia

>, 8-year-old CI user

>Colin, 11, hearing

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>All messages posted to this list are private and confidential. Each post

is the intellectual property of the author and therefore subject to

copyright restrictions.

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