Re: cutting down high fructose and soybean oil - coincidence or improvements?

[Guest guest]

Incidentally,

If any of you want to get rid of high fructose but still want your sodas, a lot of the natural or organic sodas are really good now. drinks those instead of coke as much as he can help it. They have natural sugar rather than high fructose and they also come in diet . Kroger, Whole Foods, Harry's Farmer's Market, co-ops, and natural food stores sell them.

-med

Re: cutting down high fructose and soybean oil - coincidence or improvements?

Tammy Wolfgram wrote: Well, it can't be because of corn syrup, as there is no corn syrup of any kind in diet soda. Corn syrup would contain too many calories

to be in a diet soda. The sweetener you are thinking of is called

aspertame. The idea that aspertame is dangerous or poison has

been debunked by many resources, but I have so much trouble

that I am willing to try nearly anything:) I am looking forward to

hearing more info from Topper on this, and may go for a trial period

without diet soda to see if I notice any improvement in how I feel.

With regard to that, , how long of a time would you think

adequate to test whether the soda has been negatively affecting

me? As I mentioned in a previous email, I drink a lot of diet pepsi,

as it is my main beverage.

Tammy

PS If you are interested in reading some of the info that debunks

the idea that aspertame is dangerous, etc. check out this Snopes

page. There are additional links at the bottom of the page. I think

it's important to look at information from a variety of sources:

http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/aspartame.asp

No, it's not the HFCS, but it could be the aspartame/Equal used to sweeten the diet sodas. The truth is that aspartame breaks down over time or with heat and forms formaldahyde. However, most folks don't necessarily have a problem/reaction with it, so of course, Snopes looked up the research and debunked it as a myth. What needs to be taken into account is the folks that DO have the severe reaction to the stuff. I can't use it because it gives me severe headaches. Splenda/sucralose has the same effect on me, but it takes a larger dose. I can use saccharine with no problems, but I don't like the stuff. I've never tried using stevia because it doesn't bother me to use regular sugar. Just remember that just because it doesn't cause a reaction in a large percentage of the population, doesn't mean it isn't poison to others.

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[Guest guest]

I doesn't High Fructose Corn Syrup, the one that messes up or hormones, is a cheap modified corn sugar, it has calories, is a sweetener, it's not in a diet soda.

It is found in a LOT of other things though... cold cereals, hot dogs, breading, stuffing, commercial baked goods, fast food (drive through and the stuff you pull out of a box add water and heat).

Topper ()

On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:22:01 -0400 "medstudent2be" writes:

Tammy,

Does diet Pepsi have high fructose in it? I can't remember. Would you check for me please?

-med

[Guest guest]

Just goes to show you... our country needs a major overhaul as to what we as people will tolerate as acceptable.

-med

Re: Re: cutting down high fructose and soybean oil - coincidence or improvements?

It is all so complicated isn't it? Figuring out what is better and what is worse these days. Just tonight I was watching the Jim Lehr (sp?) news hour .. and they did a piece on a nuclear facility (Exelon) that has hidden the fact that they leaked 6 million gallons of water containing radioactive Tritium. (not diluted but the straight stuff) since 1996! This is SW of Chicago in Will County. In the report they said this was on top of the amount of diluted radioactive tritium they are ALLOWED BY LAW to dump into the Kanakee (sp?) River. The investigator said the negligence is worse than Homer Simpson with his donuts at the nuclear plant. They talked about what this stuff can do to the body - they described it as a bullet that shatters dna leaving fragments to form cancer. It just stinks of that evil situation that Brockovich movie with . They pinpointed areas around the US where Tritium has leaked in big amounts - it was rather disgusting. I wonder what this does to the DNA of future generations and what diseases they'll be prone to - like we are to this thyroid stuff currently. Sad huh?-LynnTammy Wolfgram wrote:> > You mentioned something else in your post that> I wanted to comment on. I think a great deal of the> reason that we see more diagnosis of various > diseases now than say 50 years ago is that we> have better diagnostic tools now. Many things used> to go undiagnosed, misdiagnosed or poorly diagnosed.> For example, esophageal adenocarcinoma is on> the rise, while incidence of gastric cancer has fallen.> I believe that at least part of the change in incidence> of these two cancers is more accurate diagnosis.> What they used to diagnose as stomach cancer, they> are now more accurately pinpointing as esophageal> cancer, which often occurs just above the gastro-> esophageal junction. I think that many diseases> and conditions that would have gone without > diagnosis in our grandparents are being accurately> diagnosed in us and in our children today. I wonder> if the future will see even more accurate and > individualized diagnostic testing?> > Take care,> Tammy

[Guest guest]

Tammy,

This is such a powerful statement:

We get the world we deserve.

May I post it on my blog so I don't ever forget it lol.

-med

Re: Re: cutting down high fructose and soybean oil - coincidence or improvements?

Hi Lynn,

I'm just curious, as my daughter's boyfriend is from the

area southwest of Chicago. Is the name of the river

Kanakee or Kankakee? Because if it's the Kankakee,

I actually know where that is! What you describe in

terms of allowing radioactive material into rivers like

that is just unbelievable. We get the world we deserve.

It makes me want to punch the head of the nuclear

facility in the nose, for all the good it would do. Don't

these people have any consciences? They know too

much to plead ignorance. Do you recall the mutant

frogs they found in certain areas? Things like this

have to be stopped!

Pheww! Well..... I'm glad I got THAT off my chest:)

Take care,

Tammy

It is all so complicated isn't it? Figuring out what is better and what is worse these days. Just tonight I was watching the Jim Lehr (sp?) news hour .. and they did a piece on a nuclear facility (Exelon) that has hidden the fact that they leaked 6 million gallons of water containing radioactive Tritium. (not diluted but the straight stuff) since 1996! This is SW of Chicago in Will County. In the report they said this was on top of the amount of diluted radioactive tritium they are ALLOWED BY LAW to dump into the Kanakee (sp?) River. The investigator said the negligence is worse than Homer Simpson with his donuts at the nuclear plant. They talked about what this stuff can do to the body - they described it as a bullet that shatters dna leaving fragments to form cancer. It just stinks of that evil situation that Brockovich movie with . They pinpointed areas around the US where Tritium has leaked in big amounts - it was rather disgusting. I wonder what this does to the DNA of future generations and what diseases they'll be prone to - like we are to this thyroid stuff currently. Sad huh?-LynnTammy Wolfgram wrote:> > You mentioned something else in your post that> I wanted to comment on. I think a great deal of the> reason that we see more diagnosis of various > diseases now than say 50 years ago is that we> have better diagnostic tools now. Many things used> to go undiagnosed, misdiagnosed or poorly diagnosed.> For example, esophageal adenocarcinoma is on> the rise, while incidence of gastric cancer has fallen.> I believe that at least part of the change in incidence> of these two cancers is more accurate diagnosis.> What they used to diagnose as stomach cancer, they> are now more accurately pinpointing as esophageal> cancer, which often occurs just above the gastro-> esophageal junction. I think that many diseases> and conditions that would have gone without > diagnosis in our grandparents are being accurately> diagnosed in us and in our children today. I wonder> if the future will see even more accurate and > individualized diagnostic testing?> > Take care,> Tammy

[Guest guest]

*shudder*

creepy.. just plain darn creepy...

-med

Re: cutting down high fructose and soybean oil - coincidence or improvements?

>My dad worked as the PR man for a metallurgical company that made rare metals. His office was not far from the settling ponds, and he knew things about the setttling ponds leaking. This was at a time when government was cracking down, finally, on factories not polluting the rivers (as much.) There were studies done on plant life and birds and such in the area, if there were. At first, no birds, as they cleaned up, some returned. But, my dad couldn't handle being PR for the company when he knew the things they were doing that were bad for the environment, and he quit the job. The factory actually planted 100's of trees surrounding the property as a way to show people that their emissions didn't kill trees. When we were kids, my parents were more than vigilant and adamant about us not even getting our toes wet in that river. Supposedly that river is cleaned up now, but I still try not to let the water touch me, and if I was ever to catch a fish from it, it would become fertilizer in my flower garden. I don't trust that river. When my husband and I married, he went to that factory to apply for a job, they paid good money. While there, though, he saw men come out of a building in hazmat suits, then was told about the car wash that employees ran their cars through before heading home, every day. He figured good money wasn't worth his life. The trees around the property might be growing, but don't drive your cars home before having them washed off first. <scary face>US Jane> Hi Lynn,> > I'm just curious, as my daughter's boyfriend is from the> area southwest of Chicago. Is the name of the river> Kanakee or Kankakee? Because if it's the Kankakee,> I actually know where that is! What you describe in> terms of allowing radioactive material into rivers like> that is just unbelievable. We get the world we deserve.> It makes me want to punch the head of the nuclear> facility in the nose, for all the good it would do. Don't> these people have any consciences? They know too> much to plead ignorance. Do you recall the mutant> frogs they found in certain areas? Things like this> have to be stopped!> > Pheww! Well..... I'm glad I got THAT off my chest:)> > Take care,> Tammy

[Guest guest]

My fiance's house is on a lake, at the end of his culdesac.

It is also at the end of the waterline. There are fish in

his lake and we could go out and catch some for dinner. But

we won't be doing that anytime soon. We figure that the

water is not safe enough. People all around fertilize their

lawns or put other things on them like pesticides and other

poisons. And who knows what is in the water from the run

off from the street and the waterline?

I think its sad. But we have to be safe.

-Ata

---- Original message ----

>Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:45:08 -0400

>

>Subject: Re: Re: cutting down

high fructose and soybean oil - coincidence or

improvements?

>To: <The_Thyroid_Support_Group >

>

> Tammy,

>

> This is such a powerful statement:

> We get the world we deserve.

>

> May I post it on my blog so I don't ever forget it

> lol.

> -med

>

> Re: Re:

> cutting down high fructose and soybean oil -

> coincidence or improvements?

> Hi Lynn,

> I'm just curious, as my daughter's boyfriend is

> from the

> area southwest of Chicago. Is the name of the

> river

> Kanakee or Kankakee? Because if it's the Kankakee,

> I actually know where that is! What you describe

> in

> terms of allowing radioactive material into rivers

> like

> that is just unbelievable. We get the world we

> deserve.

> It makes me want to punch the head of the nuclear

> facility in the nose, for all the good it would

> do. Don't

> these people have any consciences? They know too

> much to plead ignorance. Do you recall the mutant

> frogs they found in certain areas? Things like

> this

> have to be stopped!

> Pheww! Well..... I'm glad I got THAT off my

> chest:)

> Take care,

> Tammy

>

>

> It is all so complicated isn't it? Figuring out

> what is better and what

> is worse these days. Just tonight I was watching

> the Jim Lehr (sp?) news

> hour .. and they did a piece on a nuclear

> facility (Exelon) that has

> hidden the fact that they leaked 6 million

> gallons of water containing

> radioactive Tritium. (not diluted but the

> straight stuff) since 1996!

> This is SW of Chicago in Will County. In the

> report they said this was

> on top of the amount of diluted radioactive

> tritium they are ALLOWED BY

> LAW to dump into the Kanakee (sp?) River. The

> investigator said the

> negligence is worse than Homer Simpson with his

> donuts at the nuclear

> plant. They talked about what this stuff can do

> to the body - they

> described it as a bullet that shatters dna

> leaving fragments to form

> cancer. It just stinks of that evil situation

> that Brockovich movie

> with . They pinpointed areas around

> the US where Tritium

> has leaked in big amounts - it was rather

> disgusting. I wonder what this

> does to the DNA of future generations and what

> diseases they'll be prone

> to - like we are to this thyroid stuff

> currently. Sad huh?

>

> -Lynn

>

> Tammy Wolfgram wrote:

>

> >

> > You mentioned something else in your post that

> > I wanted to comment on. I think a great deal

> of the

> > reason that we see more diagnosis of various

> > diseases now than say 50 years ago is that we

> > have better diagnostic tools now. Many things

> used

> > to go undiagnosed, misdiagnosed or poorly

> diagnosed.

> > For example, esophageal adenocarcinoma is on

> > the rise, while incidence of gastric cancer

> has fallen.

> > I believe that at least part of the change in

> incidence

> > of these two cancers is more accurate

> diagnosis.

> > What they used to diagnose as stomach cancer,

> they

> > are now more accurately pinpointing as

> esophageal

> > cancer, which often occurs just above the

> gastro-

> > esophageal junction. I think that many

> diseases

> > and conditions that would have gone without

> > diagnosis in our grandparents are being

> accurately

> > diagnosed in us and in our children today. I

> wonder

> > if the future will see even more accurate and

> > individualized diagnostic testing?

> >

> > Take care,

> > Tammy

>

>

[Guest guest]

I didn't make it up, so feel free:) I do think it is so true,though.TammyTammy, This is such a powerful statement:We get the world we deserve. May I post it on my blog so I don't ever forget it lol.-med Re: Re: cutting down high fructose and soybean oil - coincidence or improvements?Hi Lynn,I'm just curious, as my daughter's boyfriend is from thearea southwest of Chicago. Is the name of the riverKanakee or Kankakee? Because if it's the Kankakee,I actually know where that is!  What you describe interms of allowing radioactive material into rivers likethat is just unbelievable. We get the world we deserve.It makes me want to punch the head of the nuclearfacility in the nose, for all the good it would do. Don'tthese people have any consciences? They know toomuch to plead ignorance. Do you recall the mutantfrogs they found in certain areas? Things like thishave to be stopped!Pheww! Well..... I'm glad I got THAT off my chest:)Take care,TammyIt is all so complicated isn't it? Figuring out what is better and what is worse these days. Just tonight I was watching the Jim Lehr (sp?) news hour .. and they did a piece on a nuclear facility (Exelon) that has hidden the fact that they leaked 6 million gallons of water containing radioactive Tritium. (not diluted but the straight stuff) since 1996! This is SW of Chicago in Will County. In the report they said this was on top of the amount of diluted radioactive tritium they are ALLOWED BY LAW to dump into the Kanakee (sp?) River. The investigator said the negligence is worse than Homer Simpson with his donuts at the nuclear plant. They talked about what this stuff can do to the body - they described it as a bullet that shatters dna leaving fragments to form cancer. It just stinks of that evil situation that Brockovich movie with . They pinpointed areas around the US where Tritium has leaked in big amounts - it was rather disgusting. I wonder what this does to the DNA of future generations and what diseases they'll be prone to - like we are to this thyroid stuff currently. Sad huh?-LynnTammy Wolfgram wrote:> > You mentioned something else in your post that> I wanted to comment on. I think a great deal of the> reason that we see more diagnosis of various > diseases now than say 50 years ago is that we> have better diagnostic tools now. Many things used> to go undiagnosed, misdiagnosed or poorly diagnosed.> For example, esophageal adenocarcinoma is on> the rise, while incidence of gastric cancer has fallen.> I believe that at least part of the change in incidence> of these two cancers is more accurate diagnosis.> What they used to diagnose as stomach cancer, they> are now more accurately pinpointing as esophageal> cancer, which often occurs just above the gastro-> esophageal junction. I think that many diseases> and conditions that would have gone without > diagnosis in our grandparents are being accurately> diagnosed in us and in our children today. I wonder> if the future will see even more accurate and > individualized diagnostic testing?> > Take care,> Tammy