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Bianca-

>Anyone on this list regularly eat brain, adrenals, eyes and or

>testes?

No, but I'd like to. The problem with brain, as I understand it, is that

it has to be eaten practically right out of the animal. As to adrenals,

I'm looking to find a source of grass-fed adrenals and thyroid glands to

help with my thyroid resistance problem, but I haven't succeeded yet -- and

I'm wonder how I'll gag them down when I do. I don't have that much

interest in eyes and testes; what would they be used for, eyesight and

testicular function, or just general organ-meat nutrition?

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>>>> As to adrenals, I'm looking to find a source of grass-fed adrenals and

thyroid glands to help with my thyroid resistance problem, but I haven't

succeeded yet -- and

I'm wonder how I'll gag them down when I do. I don't have that much

interest in eyes and testes; what would they be used for, eyesight and

testicular function,

****yes. like nourishes like, just like you want to eat thyroid to help your

own thyroid function. I originally brought up that these particular organs

(listed in the subject line) are rich sources of n-3s. I think they are the

ones with the highest n-3 requirement of all organs. I don't imagine too

many modern folks are actually eating them, but rather eating fish and flax

oil to get n-3s. But i have heard of areas of the country where testicles

are a delicacy.

I imagine that these organs met part (a good part?) of many primitives' n-3

needs. Except fish eating groups, which would've gotten much of their n-3s

from fish.

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> Suze-

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> >yes. like nourishes like,

>

> How true is that really, though? I mean, is there any evidence

that eating

> eyeballs would improve eyesight?

There's a great anecdote in NAPD. Some frontier guy got lost and was

suffering from Vitamin A blindness. He almost died by getting too

close to a bear. The bear didn't kill him, but he was lost, alone in

the middle of the wilderness and couldn't hardly see. In despair he

sat down, cried and prepared to die. But an Indian was tracking the

bear and came across him. He recognized the eye condition and took

him by the hand to a nearby creek. The Indian built a trap out of

rocks and drove a fish into them. He gave the fish to the man and

instructed him to eat it all, particularly the eyes and the flesh

around the eyes. In a few hours the man's sight started to return and

by the next day he could see again.

I don't know where I'm going with that, except that its a great story.

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>>>Suze-

>yes. like nourishes like,

>>>>How true is that really, though? I mean, is there any evidence that

eating

eyeballs would improve eyesight?

****, I don't know about *proof* but consider that you are eating an

organ that has a similar (perhaps VERY similar) amino acid and fatty acid

profile to your own organ, whether it be eyes, brain, pancreas, or whatever.

So your organ's need for those aa's and fa's can be fulfulled, perhaps to a

great extent, by eating the same organ from another creature.

Eyes for example require quite a bit of DHA (they are about 60% DHA, I

believe), so if you eat eyes you will be getting that DHA, which your own

eyes require. I also suspect there may be a number of unknown nutrients in

animal organs (as the Price factor was unknown prior to 70 or so years ago)

that are important to our health. So, along with the *known* aa's and fa's

that our organs get when we consume the same organ from another being, there

may be some *unknown_supporters_of_organ_function* that we are getting as

well. And the unknowns could simply be *ratios* or *relationships* between

known elements...

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At 07:05 PM 4/24/02 -0400, you wrote:

>Suze-

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>>yes. like nourishes like,

>

>How true is that really, though?  I mean, is there any evidence that eating

>eyeballs would improve eyesight?

>

>

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You indirectly eat fish eyeballs when you make stock with fish heads. Brain

too. I've heard of buffalo oysters (testes) a delicacy. Had a neighbor that

told me 20 years ago that while he was in a children's reform camp that they

had pig teste gravy. Don't think he was exaggerating.

Wanita

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Hey folks

Haven't you guys heard of Rockie Mountian Oysters(testicals), deer brains and

scrambled eggs, and the first thing birds eat when arriving at a road kill is

always the eyes.

Just my two cents.

Tim

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Wanita Sears wrote:

> At 07:05 PM 4/24/02 -0400, you wrote:

> >Suze-

> >

> >>yes. like nourishes like,

> >

> >How true is that really, though? I mean, is there any evidence that eating

> >eyeballs would improve eyesight?

> >

> >

> >-

>

> You indirectly eat fish eyeballs when you make stock with fish heads. Brain

> too. I've heard of buffalo oysters (testes) a delicacy. Had a neighbor that

> told me 20 years ago that while he was in a children's reform camp that they

> had pig teste gravy. Don't think he was exaggerating.

> Wanita

>

>

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Always wondered if that was for nutrition, ease of pecking, to decrease the

feeling of being watched or politeness to the scavenged. <g>

Wanita

first thing birds eat when arriving at a road kill is

>always the eyes.

>Just my two cents.

>Tim

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I always figured that pecking at an eye was the most sure way of

determining if the food was indeed dead. the reflex to protect the eye

is pretty strong. I've not watched a lot of birds of prey (TV nature

shows), but it seem if it is too big to go down in one piece, they

just start tearing strips off The eye picking things is scavenger

behavior, I believe.

Mike

>Always wondered if that was for nutrition, ease of pecking, to decrease the

>feeling of being watched or politeness to the scavenged. <g>

>Wanita

>

> first thing birds eat when arriving at a road kill is

>>always the eyes.

>>Just my two cents.

>>Tim

>>Clearview

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On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:03:33 -0400 Idol <Idol@...>

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Bianca-

>Anyone on this list regularly eat brain, adrenals, eyes and or

>testes?

No, but I'd like to. The problem with brain, as I understand it, is that

it has to be eaten practically right out of the animal.

*****Why?

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Bianca-

>No, but I'd like to. The problem with brain, as I understand it, is that

>it has to be eaten practically right out of the animal.

>

>*****Why?

I'm told it spoils faster than any other part of the animal and is more

vulnerable to damage from freezing too. I couldn't say whether the

information is reliable, but it seems to be widespread conventional wisdom.

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At 01:18 AM 5/4/02 -0400, you wrote:

>Bianca-

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>>No, but I'd like to.  The problem with brain, as I understand it, is that

>>it has to be eaten practically right out of the animal.

>>

>>*****Why?

>

>I'm told it spoils faster than any other part of the animal and is more

>vulnerable to damage from freezing too.  I couldn't say whether the

>information is reliable, but it seems to be widespread conventional wisdom.

>-

Brain is an interesting organ. Its size directly corresponds to the amount of

it needed to brain tan that animal's hide.

Wanita

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>>>>>Brain is an interesting organ. Its size directly corresponds to the

amount of

it needed to brain tan that animal's hide.

Wanita

****Whoa! Now THAT'S intereresting! My brother brain tans deer hide. I'm

going to ask if he uses the brain from the same animal to tan its hide,

which i imagine he does since he doesn't typically have multiple carcasses

lying about, although when you go to his place, you never know what you

might find there. <g> I'm thinking it's comparable to the PBS frontier

family stuff that's being discussed, albeit he's got much more 'primitive'

technology, which i'm guessing is superior (more efficient and effective)

than the pioneers had.

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On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:03:33 -0400 Idol <Idol@...>

writes:

Bianca-

>Anyone on this list regularly eat brain, adrenals, eyes and or

>testes?

No, but I'd like to. The problem with brain, as I understand it, is that

it has to be eaten practically right out of the animal.

*****Why?

********I'm just guessing it would be the high DHA content that would go

rancid when exposed to air/oxygen? I recall Udo writes that primitives often

eat it immediately after a kill, although I have no idea if that's accurate

info. But i would think that they would eat *any* of these organs with high

omega 3 content pretty quickly so as to avoid rancidity.

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> Brain is an interesting organ. Its size directly corresponds to

> the amount of it needed to brain tan that animal's hide.

I don't know what brain-tanning is, but isn't that the same as saying that

the volume of an animal's brain is proportional to the surface area of its

body?

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>>>I don't know what brain-tanning is, but isn't that the same as saying

that

the volume of an animal's brain is proportional to the surface area of its

body?

***, brain tanning is a traditional native american method of tanning

a hide. Maybe it's traditional in other areas of the world as well, i'm not

sure. As far as surface area being proportionate, i have no idea. but i

*think* there should be enough fat (cholesterol, DHA???) in the animal's

brain in order to tan its hide. Now that I think about it, i don't actually

know if it's the *fats* that are the *active* tanning ingredients...anyone

know?

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At 01:23 PM 5/4/02 -0400, Suze wrote:

>>>>I don't know what brain-tanning is, but isn't that the same as saying

>that

>the volume of an animal's brain is proportional to the surface area of its

>body?

>

>***, brain tanning is a traditional native american method of tanning

>a hide. Maybe it's traditional in other areas of the world as well, i'm not

>sure. As far as surface area being proportionate, i have no idea. but i

>*think* there should be enough fat (cholesterol, DHA???) in the animal's

>brain in order to tan its hide. Now that I think about it, i don't actually

>know if it's the *fats* that are the *active* tanning ingredients...anyone

>know?

>

>

Yes, all wild game's brains are proportionate to their skin area. My

husband hasn't brain tanned but I'm sure the process is similar only you

finish

by rubbing all over with the brain until its worn away to nothing. I'd even go

as far to say there is enough to do both sides. For clothing leather you need

to dehair which was done by soaking in tannic water (water bodies with leaf

sediment that darkens water). Hair on or off you then dry and fletch inside

skin (let fat dry then scrape off ) repeatedly with skin stretched out until

down to skin. You then apply brain or commercial tanning solution, rub in then

scrape to soften. Brain tan leather is softer than any commercial processing

there is. I don't know how it works but there is content in the brain that

reacts with the skin to preserve it.

Wanita

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