Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 Bianca- >Anyone on this list regularly eat brain, adrenals, eyes and or >testes? No, but I'd like to. The problem with brain, as I understand it, is that it has to be eaten practically right out of the animal. As to adrenals, I'm looking to find a source of grass-fed adrenals and thyroid glands to help with my thyroid resistance problem, but I haven't succeeded yet -- and I'm wonder how I'll gag them down when I do. I don't have that much interest in eyes and testes; what would they be used for, eyesight and testicular function, or just general organ-meat nutrition? - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2002 Report Share Posted April 24, 2002 >>>> As to adrenals, I'm looking to find a source of grass-fed adrenals and thyroid glands to help with my thyroid resistance problem, but I haven't succeeded yet -- and I'm wonder how I'll gag them down when I do. I don't have that much interest in eyes and testes; what would they be used for, eyesight and testicular function, ****yes. like nourishes like, just like you want to eat thyroid to help your own thyroid function. I originally brought up that these particular organs (listed in the subject line) are rich sources of n-3s. I think they are the ones with the highest n-3 requirement of all organs. I don't imagine too many modern folks are actually eating them, but rather eating fish and flax oil to get n-3s. But i have heard of areas of the country where testicles are a delicacy. I imagine that these organs met part (a good part?) of many primitives' n-3 needs. Except fish eating groups, which would've gotten much of their n-3s from fish. Suze Fisher Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/ mailto:s.fisher22@... - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2002 Report Share Posted April 25, 2002 Suze- >yes. like nourishes like, How true is that really, though? I mean, is there any evidence that eating eyeballs would improve eyesight? - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2002 Report Share Posted April 25, 2002 > Suze- > > >yes. like nourishes like, > > How true is that really, though? I mean, is there any evidence that eating > eyeballs would improve eyesight? There's a great anecdote in NAPD. Some frontier guy got lost and was suffering from Vitamin A blindness. He almost died by getting too close to a bear. The bear didn't kill him, but he was lost, alone in the middle of the wilderness and couldn't hardly see. In despair he sat down, cried and prepared to die. But an Indian was tracking the bear and came across him. He recognized the eye condition and took him by the hand to a nearby creek. The Indian built a trap out of rocks and drove a fish into them. He gave the fish to the man and instructed him to eat it all, particularly the eyes and the flesh around the eyes. In a few hours the man's sight started to return and by the next day he could see again. I don't know where I'm going with that, except that its a great story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2002 Report Share Posted April 25, 2002 >>>Suze- >yes. like nourishes like, >>>>How true is that really, though? I mean, is there any evidence that eating eyeballs would improve eyesight? ****, I don't know about *proof* but consider that you are eating an organ that has a similar (perhaps VERY similar) amino acid and fatty acid profile to your own organ, whether it be eyes, brain, pancreas, or whatever. So your organ's need for those aa's and fa's can be fulfulled, perhaps to a great extent, by eating the same organ from another creature. Eyes for example require quite a bit of DHA (they are about 60% DHA, I believe), so if you eat eyes you will be getting that DHA, which your own eyes require. I also suspect there may be a number of unknown nutrients in animal organs (as the Price factor was unknown prior to 70 or so years ago) that are important to our health. So, along with the *known* aa's and fa's that our organs get when we consume the same organ from another being, there may be some *unknown_supporters_of_organ_function* that we are getting as well. And the unknowns could simply be *ratios* or *relationships* between known elements... Suze Fisher Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/ mailto:s.fisher22@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2002 Report Share Posted April 26, 2002 At 07:05 PM 4/24/02 -0400, you wrote: >Suze- > >>yes. like nourishes like, > >How true is that really, though? I mean, is there any evidence that eating >eyeballs would improve eyesight? > > >- You indirectly eat fish eyeballs when you make stock with fish heads. Brain too. I've heard of buffalo oysters (testes) a delicacy. Had a neighbor that told me 20 years ago that while he was in a children's reform camp that they had pig teste gravy. Don't think he was exaggerating. Wanita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2002 Report Share Posted April 26, 2002 Hey folks Haven't you guys heard of Rockie Mountian Oysters(testicals), deer brains and scrambled eggs, and the first thing birds eat when arriving at a road kill is always the eyes. Just my two cents. Tim Clearview Wanita Sears wrote: > At 07:05 PM 4/24/02 -0400, you wrote: > >Suze- > > > >>yes. like nourishes like, > > > >How true is that really, though? I mean, is there any evidence that eating > >eyeballs would improve eyesight? > > > > > >- > > You indirectly eat fish eyeballs when you make stock with fish heads. Brain > too. I've heard of buffalo oysters (testes) a delicacy. Had a neighbor that > told me 20 years ago that while he was in a children's reform camp that they > had pig teste gravy. Don't think he was exaggerating. > Wanita > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2002 Report Share Posted April 26, 2002 Always wondered if that was for nutrition, ease of pecking, to decrease the feeling of being watched or politeness to the scavenged. <g> Wanita first thing birds eat when arriving at a road kill is >always the eyes. >Just my two cents. >Tim >Clearview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2002 Report Share Posted April 26, 2002 I always figured that pecking at an eye was the most sure way of determining if the food was indeed dead. the reflex to protect the eye is pretty strong. I've not watched a lot of birds of prey (TV nature shows), but it seem if it is too big to go down in one piece, they just start tearing strips off The eye picking things is scavenger behavior, I believe. Mike >Always wondered if that was for nutrition, ease of pecking, to decrease the >feeling of being watched or politeness to the scavenged. <g> >Wanita > > first thing birds eat when arriving at a road kill is >>always the eyes. >>Just my two cents. >>Tim >>Clearview > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:03:33 -0400 Idol <Idol@...> writes: Bianca- >Anyone on this list regularly eat brain, adrenals, eyes and or >testes? No, but I'd like to. The problem with brain, as I understand it, is that it has to be eaten practically right out of the animal. *****Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 Bianca- >No, but I'd like to. The problem with brain, as I understand it, is that >it has to be eaten practically right out of the animal. > >*****Why? I'm told it spoils faster than any other part of the animal and is more vulnerable to damage from freezing too. I couldn't say whether the information is reliable, but it seems to be widespread conventional wisdom. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 At 01:18 AM 5/4/02 -0400, you wrote: >Bianca- > >>No, but I'd like to. The problem with brain, as I understand it, is that >>it has to be eaten practically right out of the animal. >> >>*****Why? > >I'm told it spoils faster than any other part of the animal and is more >vulnerable to damage from freezing too. I couldn't say whether the >information is reliable, but it seems to be widespread conventional wisdom. >- Brain is an interesting organ. Its size directly corresponds to the amount of it needed to brain tan that animal's hide. Wanita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 >>>>>Brain is an interesting organ. Its size directly corresponds to the amount of it needed to brain tan that animal's hide. Wanita ****Whoa! Now THAT'S intereresting! My brother brain tans deer hide. I'm going to ask if he uses the brain from the same animal to tan its hide, which i imagine he does since he doesn't typically have multiple carcasses lying about, although when you go to his place, you never know what you might find there. <g> I'm thinking it's comparable to the PBS frontier family stuff that's being discussed, albeit he's got much more 'primitive' technology, which i'm guessing is superior (more efficient and effective) than the pioneers had. Suze Fisher Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/ mailto:s.fisher22@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 18:03:33 -0400 Idol <Idol@...> writes: Bianca- >Anyone on this list regularly eat brain, adrenals, eyes and or >testes? No, but I'd like to. The problem with brain, as I understand it, is that it has to be eaten practically right out of the animal. *****Why? ********I'm just guessing it would be the high DHA content that would go rancid when exposed to air/oxygen? I recall Udo writes that primitives often eat it immediately after a kill, although I have no idea if that's accurate info. But i would think that they would eat *any* of these organs with high omega 3 content pretty quickly so as to avoid rancidity. Suze Fisher Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/ mailto:s.fisher22@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 ----- Original Message ----- From: " Wanita Sears " <wanitawa@...> > Brain is an interesting organ. Its size directly corresponds to > the amount of it needed to brain tan that animal's hide. I don't know what brain-tanning is, but isn't that the same as saying that the volume of an animal's brain is proportional to the surface area of its body? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2002 Report Share Posted May 4, 2002 >>>I don't know what brain-tanning is, but isn't that the same as saying that the volume of an animal's brain is proportional to the surface area of its body? ***, brain tanning is a traditional native american method of tanning a hide. Maybe it's traditional in other areas of the world as well, i'm not sure. As far as surface area being proportionate, i have no idea. but i *think* there should be enough fat (cholesterol, DHA???) in the animal's brain in order to tan its hide. Now that I think about it, i don't actually know if it's the *fats* that are the *active* tanning ingredients...anyone know? Suze Fisher Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/ mailto:s.fisher22@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2002 Report Share Posted May 5, 2002 At 01:23 PM 5/4/02 -0400, Suze wrote: >>>>I don't know what brain-tanning is, but isn't that the same as saying >that >the volume of an animal's brain is proportional to the surface area of its >body? > >***, brain tanning is a traditional native american method of tanning >a hide. Maybe it's traditional in other areas of the world as well, i'm not >sure. As far as surface area being proportionate, i have no idea. but i >*think* there should be enough fat (cholesterol, DHA???) in the animal's >brain in order to tan its hide. Now that I think about it, i don't actually >know if it's the *fats* that are the *active* tanning ingredients...anyone >know? > > Yes, all wild game's brains are proportionate to their skin area. My husband hasn't brain tanned but I'm sure the process is similar only you finish by rubbing all over with the brain until its worn away to nothing. I'd even go as far to say there is enough to do both sides. For clothing leather you need to dehair which was done by soaking in tannic water (water bodies with leaf sediment that darkens water). Hair on or off you then dry and fletch inside skin (let fat dry then scrape off ) repeatedly with skin stretched out until down to skin. You then apply brain or commercial tanning solution, rub in then scrape to soften. Brain tan leather is softer than any commercial processing there is. I don't know how it works but there is content in the brain that reacts with the skin to preserve it. Wanita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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