Cholesterol blues

[Guest guest]

Hi group,

What can you wise and learned NT'rs tell me about my latest

cholesterol test results? I started NT in December as a result of a

high cholesterol reading and not wanting to go on Zocor. Four months

of changing our eating habits, which weren't too bad to start with,

to include raw milk, fermented/cultured foods, etc., etc.

The new " bad " cholesterol number went UP from 367 to 395, but the HDL

went up also.

Tell me, tell me....please. I could use some support, something to

tell my doctor when I refuse the Zocor again.

Sharon

[Guest guest]

Post your full results and give us a shot :-)

Bianca

On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 17:50:07 -0000 " vermont_gardening "

<sharonz@...> writes:

Hi group,

What can you wise and learned NT'rs tell me about my latest

cholesterol test results? I started NT in December as a result of a

high cholesterol reading and not wanting to go on Zocor. Four months

of changing our eating habits, which weren't too bad to start with,

to include raw milk, fermented/cultured foods, etc., etc.

The new " bad " cholesterol number went UP from 367 to 395, but the HDL

went up also.

Tell me, tell me....please. I could use some support, something to

tell my doctor when I refuse the Zocor again.

Sharon

[Guest guest]

I don't have any clinical experience at all, so I don't want to be

giving advice. But here are my thoughts:

1. Statin drugs like Zocor do save lives. Its just that they work via

their anti-inflammatory properties, not their cholesterol reduction

(if they worked by lowering cholesterol, then other non-statin

cholesterol lowering drugs would also work, and they don't).

2. The drugs work just as well for people with low cholesterol as

high cholesterol. Thus the value of traditional cholesterol screening

is suspect. However, diabetics and insulin resistant people do need

to worry. But then you should treat the diabetes and insulin

resistance and not the cholesterol. An low-carb NT diet is probably

the best choice.

3. There is a genetic disorder called Familial Hypercholesterolemia.

These people have cholesterol levels of 280ish or more, IIRC. These

people are at increased risk of dying from a heart attack in the

absence of other risk factors like insulin resistance and obesity.

With your numbers, there is a good chance you have this condition.

Whether its worth taking statins for you entire life to treat it...

[Guest guest]

> I don't have any clinical experience at all, so I don't want to be

> giving advice. But here are my thoughts:

<interesting points snipped for brevity>

Thanks. Those are some good points for me to ponder and research. I

appreciate that you answered at all. This is a pretty hard ng to

participate in.

Back to lurkdom,

Sharon

[Guest guest]

At 10:34 PM 4/15/2002 +0000, you wrote:

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> > I don't have any clinical experience at all, so I don't want to be

> > giving advice. But here are my thoughts:

>

><interesting points snipped for brevity>

>

>Thanks. Those are some good points for me to ponder and research. I

>appreciate that you answered at all. This is a pretty hard ng to

>participate in.

>

>Back to lurkdom,

>Sharon

Here are some links:

http://www.ravnskov.nu/cholesterol.htm

http://www.westonaprice.org/know_your_fats/know_your_fats.html

http://www.westonaprice.org/askdoctor/ask_cholesterol.html

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