Re: Re: WLS Complications()

[Guest guest]

As a netizen of many years who has watched netiquette grow, I feel deeply

that these ought to be sent off list, not on list. Each person who writes

owns their words. And it is generally assumed that those words will not be

used or published on another list without their consent. Reposting

happens, but it really is not good netiquette. Lists that are sophisticated

about netiquette issues actually forbid reposts without author consent. If

all are members of this list, then reposts WITH names and headers would not

violate netiquette.

Using another's words without their name IS a violation of netiquette if the

person isn't asked.

I didn't make up netiquette. This is something that has evolved over the

years

Why not just ask the authors is it is ok to post their words? Problem

solved.

From http://www.albion.com/netiquette/book/0963702513p136.html

Virginia Shea

Author of Netiquette

Copyright and posted material

The free exchange of information through cyberspace has raised all sorts of

questions about who owns that material. Is material that's posted to a

discussion group still owned by the original author? What if it's repeatedly

quoted in further discussion? What if you write a FAQ and make it publicly

available -- do you still own the copyright?

The answer to these questions is yes, yes, and yes. If it's your original

work and you wrote it down, the copyright is yours.

There's a common -- and mistaken -- belief that posting information to

USENET, or anywhere else in cyberspace, puts it in the public domain. That's

not true. Think about it -- if you paint a picture and display it for all to

see, you're not giving up the copyright to it.

Q. What's the public domain?

Anything that's not under copyright is in the public domain. That means

anyone can freely copy and distribute it. You can give copies away for free,

or, if anyone's willing to pay, you can charge them.

As of 1994, most works created before 1922 are out of copyright and in the

public domain. An author can also choose to put a work into the public

domain by declaring, in writing, that he is doing so. That doesn't apply to

most of the material that's posted in cyberspace. So most of the posted

material you see -- whether it's a note in a discussion group or an article

whose author is seeking comments -- is under copyright and belongs to the

author.

in Seattle

DS 1/5/01

Dr Welker

----- Original Message -----

> > If these are posts from others on other lists, reposting without

> their permission to this list really would violate the basics of

> netiquette.

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> > in Seattle

> > DS 1/5/01

> > Dr Welker

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> , when you posted your post-op story, was it to help people? It

> seems like this person went to a lot of effort to collect WLS

> stories, good and bad. As long as she omits the name and email

> address of the poster, I believe she is not committing a violation of

> netiquette. It no more violates netiquette than someone collecting

> data regarding the different protein comments and reactions, or

> recipes. Care should be taken regarding the removal of identifiers

> and put together cleanly on some kind of word processing program and

> uploaded to the files sections. It would be a benefit to newcomers

> and researchers.

> I have posted news about a TV crew looking for people having

> insurance problems. I removed the posters addy. If she did not want

> the news to be told she would not have posted it. I did not commit

> netiquette. Brigid wanted her reaction to WLS to be told or she would

> not have posted it. And likewise Bridget. AGAIN, I want to say that

> protecting the names and email address's comes first. By the way,

> our group here has protected email address's. Now this is JMHO.

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