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At 06:49 AM 4/16/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>Has anyone made the crackers in NT? If so, how were they? Anyone try

>to make them as cheezy-crackers, if you have how'd you do it?

>

>I'm wanting to make some crackers for my niece who devours those

>nasty store bought cheese crackers and peanutbutter (they are just

>happy she eats! Picky thang). I've Just gotta to get something

>better in the child! :~) Still working on Mom and Dad in the mean

>time...LiSaC

It depends how " NT " you want to be. Any soaked/ground grain can be used

with a cheese-cracker recipe (there are lots of them floating around), but

I've not had much luck with crackers in general.

Now, I don't know the NT status of manioc flour (tapioca) -- it has been

used by natives in Brazil forever, but it's poison in it's native state so

by the time it's for sale it's basically as nutritious as wallpaper paste,

like most flours. But it would not contain phytates either! They use it to

make a truly luscious delight that my picky daughter and hubby and everyone

else goes crazy for, called " Pau queso " , or " cheese bread " . It's basically

tapioca flour and cheese, and puffs up like a cream puff. Actually it

tastes like a cross between a cream puff and Cheetos, only it's made with

good oil (whatever you put in it), and cheese (which is as good as your

source of cheese) and eggs.

If you want to cheat and not find sources for tapioca flour, you can also

buy a mix, called Chebe bread, at www.chebe.com. And at some health-food

stores. I use the mix -- yeah, it's a packaged product but it gets along

with everyone and contains no rancid oils (you add oils, eggs, and cheese).

Super easy and very addicting. The real cheese flavor comes through nicely.

You can also wrap it around some meat, like hamburger or sausage, before

cooking, for a quick meal. I guarantee your niece will like them!

Heidi Schuppenhauer

Trillium Custom Software Inc.

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Oh Heidi, you got me slobbering on the keyboard! That sounds sooo

good! I know my hubby will really like. Heck it might be one of

those things that is worth cheating over.

So I guess you don't have to soak tapioca flour. I think I might

have some flour in the frig. If so, I know what I'm trying tomorrow!

Slerp, slerp...LiSaC

>>>> They use it to

> make a truly luscious delight that my picky daughter and hubby and

everyone

> else goes crazy for, called " Pau queso " , or " cheese bread " . It's

basically

> tapioca flour and cheese, and puffs up like a cream puff. Actually

it

> tastes like a cross between a cream puff and Cheetos, only it's

made with

> good oil (whatever you put in it), and cheese (which is as good as

your

> source of cheese) and eggs.

>

> If you want to cheat and not find sources for tapioca flour, you

can also

> buy a mix, called Chebe bread, at www.chebe.com. And at some

health-food

> stores. I use the mix -- yeah, it's a packaged product but it gets

along

> with everyone and contains no rancid oils (you add oils, eggs, and

cheese).

> Super easy and very addicting. The real cheese flavor comes

through nicely.

> You can also wrap it around some meat, like hamburger or sausage,

before

> cooking, for a quick meal. I guarantee your niece will like them!

>

>

> Heidi Schuppenhauer

> Trillium Custom Software Inc.

> heidis@t...

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>If I'm remembering correctly,you can spread butter on the

cracker " dough piece " after you have it rolled out real thin (and

before baking). Then fold over and roll out thin again. You can do

that several times filling the cracker with tasty butter. Anyone make

them that way? Dennis

I think that you just brush melted butter on after they are rolled out and

that's it...just be generous and then there is no need to fold, etc. Also I

would think that they would get too crumbly with the layers of butter inbetween.

One thing: (maybe you all realize this) I just roll mine out in two big

rectangles, put them on parchment paper on two cookie sheets, generously slather

melted butter over the top. Once they are dry, I just " crack " the " crackers "

into appropriate sized hunks and throw them in my container for keeping. Alot

easier than cutting out individual crackers...oven-space saving too.

Sonja

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> If you want to cheat and not find sources for tapioca flour, you can also

> buy a mix, called Chebe bread, at www.chebe.com. And at some health-food

> stores. I use the mix -- yeah, it's a packaged product but it gets along

> with everyone and contains no rancid oils (you add oils, eggs, and

cheese).

> Super easy and very addicting. The real cheese flavor comes through

nicely.

> You can also wrap it around some meat, like hamburger or sausage, before

> cooking, for a quick meal. I guarantee your niece will like them!

I can vouch for this. Chebe is delicious, but as you said it's also pretty

devoid of nutrition. I've used it to make a GF pizza crust (using a romano,

parmesan blend for the cheese) and it was fabulous. The GF cheesy rolls

(basically left over from the crust) were fantastic too.

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Here's a wonderful cracker recipe. It's a slight variation to those in the

book. When my kids have friends over we just tell them they are wheat thins.

I had one little girl tell me she wanted to know what store we bought our

wheat thins at because they were a lot better than any her Mom ever bought!

Crackers

1-1/2 c clabberred milk

1 cup butter

5 plus cups spelt flour (hard red wheat flour doesn't work)

Blend all ingredients together and let sit 12 - 24 hours in a warm place

covered with a damp towel. It should be a pretty stiff dough or you will

never be able to roll it out. Add salt to taste (about 3/4 T). Knead it a

bit to get the salt crystals to dissolve. Roll it out on an ungreased PIZZA

STONE (this is a must!) until it is paper thin. Using a pizza cutter, cut

them in the size and shape you want. Sprinkle with salt. Sometimes I grate

some parmesan on them as well. Bake at 375 for 10 - 15 minutes. You want

them baked but not crispy. They should just barely be starting to brown.

Remove from the oven. Remove immediately as they will continue to cook.

Transfer to the dehydrator and dry until crispy.

This is enough for several pizza stone's worth. The problem is, it's hard to

make them if you just have one stone as once the stone is hot it's a

challenge to roll them out as the dough gets real sticky. I have several

stones so I just rotate which ones I'm using and it works great but if you're

using just one stone allow cooling time inbetween them.

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Is the dough too stiff to use a manual Atlas pasta maker to roll it thin? I

could do this if I could roll it with the Atlas. :) How could you dry them

without a dehydrator? ine

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From: BrenRuble@... [mailto:BrenRuble@...]

Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 1:28 AM

Subject: Re: Crackers

Here's a wonderful cracker recipe. It's a slight variation to those in the

book. When my kids have friends over we just tell them they are wheat

thins.

I had one little girl tell me she wanted to know what store we bought our

wheat thins at because they were a lot better than any her Mom ever bought!

Crackers

1-1/2 c clabberred milk

1 cup butter

5 plus cups spelt flour (hard red wheat flour doesn't work)

Blend all ingredients together and let sit 12 - 24 hours in a warm place

covered with a damp towel. It should be a pretty stiff dough or you will

never be able to roll it out. Add salt to taste (about 3/4 T). Knead it a

bit to get the salt crystals to dissolve. Roll it out on an ungreased PIZZA

STONE (this is a must!) until it is paper thin. Using a pizza cutter, cut

them in the size and shape you want. Sprinkle with salt. Sometimes I grate

some parmesan on them as well. Bake at 375 for 10 - 15 minutes. You want

them baked but not crispy. They should just barely be starting to brown.

Remove from the oven. Remove immediately as they will continue to cook.

Transfer to the dehydrator and dry until crispy.

This is enough for several pizza stone's worth. The problem is, it's hard

to

make them if you just have one stone as once the stone is hot it's a

challenge to roll them out as the dough gets real sticky. I have several

stones so I just rotate which ones I'm using and it works great but if

you're

using just one stone allow cooling time inbetween them.

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Not looking at NT right now, but I think it said to roll them out to 1/8 " ,

which I did. I dried them in a dehydrator.

Carmen

>>>>They were way too tangy and hard. Carmen

Hmmm, did you make them really thin? I wondered about the tanginess.

Well, I'll give it a try and see what happens. Oh, how did you dry

them?

LiSaC

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It's too sticky. Even though it's stiff it's still very sticky. Although

you're rolling it out, you're still pressing it into place as it sticks so

bad to the rolling pin. I don't use any added flour as it wouldn't be soaked

then. You can eat them without dehydrating them, they just aren't as good.

They get real crispy in a dehydrator just like a wheat thin. You could try

letting them sit on a rack in the oven with almost no heat overnight and see

if it would do the trick. Good luck.

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