See Doctor tomorrow and have another question

[Guest guest]

I posted earlier today about question relating to seeing my Endo

tomorrow. I am still waiting to hear back from some of you. My other

question is if I remember right that I was told not to take any of my

Armour before I have Labs taken. Is this right? I also do not see the

doctor until about twelve thirty and by the time they call me back and

see the doctor then take the labes it will be about one thirty or later

before the labs taken. Is that alright to go without any Armour for so

long? By the afternoon I am usually on my second dose of Armour. I

breatk it up during day. Thanks in advance for your help and advice.

Look forward to hearing from some of you.

Theresa

[Guest guest]

Hi Theresa,

I would take the early morning one as early as possible 6am or so,

that keeps you going through the a.m. but wait until after the draw

for the next, as soon as it is done slip it in.

Now I hope I can remember all that you should get done. t4,t3, free

t4, free t3, complete blood panel including ferritin, B12 and RBS.

(Random Blood Sugar is something that also shows how the adrenals

are working and how much starch you may or may not need. Mine was

so low that the doc was having a fit as it should have been around 7

but was at 2.5. He couldn't see how I hadn't passed out as it is

kinda that way when under 3. I found out later that it is also a

sign of the adrenals needing help.)

Hope that I have got them all just suffering from the heat 80 +

humidex which will bring it close to 100 and I am melting away. I

WISH!!!!

Hope that helps

Dawn

-- In The_Thyroid_Support_Group , " Theresa "

wrote:

>

> I posted earlier today about question relating to seeing my Endo

> tomorrow. I am still waiting to hear back from some of you. My

other

> question is if I remember right that I was told not to take any of

my

> Armour before I have Labs taken. Is this right? I also do not

see the

> doctor until about twelve thirty and by the time they call me back

and

> see the doctor then take the labes it will be about one thirty or

later

> before the labs taken. Is that alright to go without any Armour

for so

> long? By the afternoon I am usually on my second dose of Armour.

I

> breatk it up during day. Thanks in advance for your help and

advice.

> Look forward to hearing from some of you.

>

>

> Theresa

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Theresa...

The bare minimum labs to run for thyroid levels:

TSH just for the docs sake it really doesn't mean squat.

Free T4 to see if your dosage is adequate and giving you enough storage

hormone to convert

Free T3 to see if your body is converting efficiently enough for your

body to have the hormone that it needs to function well... and for you to

feel well.

For anemia... there are two things to check... hypos can be anemic in two

things...

B-12

and iron... but for the iron you don't want the iron test, you want the

Ferritin test.

Ferritin is the storage iron.... you need to know if your stored level is

adequate.

If your B-12 and/or Ferritin are low.. then you'll want to supplement.

B-12 is a water soluble vitamin and easily passed from the body through

liquids (mostly urine). It's also hard for us to absorb from the food we

eat when our digestion isn't working right.

Iron, what you'd take to elevate the storage iron (ferritin) is a mineral

that, if taken in excess can be harmful... so it's best to check to see

how much you need to take in supplement form... I know some folks that

are so depleted they take 3 of the pills that normal folks only need one

of....

As far as taking meds before labs or not... Sue ran the test a month or

so ago and showed black on white that taking meds before labs does drop

the TSH and raise the Ts. Since we want to show the what our body is

doing with the hormone that we've been taking and is being stored and

converted within our bodies I feel it's best to take the meds and labs

FAR apart.... I like the 8 to 12 hour range.

I'm a multi-doser, taking my thyroid very 3 to 3 1/2 hours.... I went

without for about 13 hours in prep for my labs... I actually made it...

I didn't think I would, I thought for sure that I'd crash.. but I

didn't... As soon as the blood was drawn I popped my dose of natural

under my tongue, it was dissolve and I was ready to eat by the time it

was all done and we got to the restaurant... I was also fasting during

that time for the glucose test....

As for what to say to the doc.... Maybe the approach about working on

feeling better by tweaking up the Frees a bit... if they have been

running under the midpoint in their ranges tell the doc that you'd like

to set a goal of getting both the Free T4 and the Free T3 to mid range

and see how you are feeling... Explain that you understand that if your

body starts to go hyper that you'll have an increased heart rate and that

you are more than willing to keep a close eye on it and if it gets over

90 you will call her and let her know what is going on.....

You'll be charting your pulse rate daily.... a good idea for all of us to

do anyway... and she'll be able to see the readings when you come back in

six weeks for labs to see how things look....

When you can show her your chart, that you have followed through on what

you've said that you would do, that the chart is showing that your pulse

rate isn't going perwhacky and you are being responsible about things...

and, hopefully, feeling better... See what the labs are looking at that

point... and urge to be tweaked a bit more... that you'll continue to

monitor and will contact her if there is any hint of a problem....

Ideally.... most of us feel best with a Free T4 at about mid range or a

bit higher.... and with the Free T3 at the top end of it's range, or a

bit over.... having a Free T3 level that is lower in it's range than the

Free T4 is in it's range shows that your body isn't converting enough of

the T4 that it's stored into the T3 that you need to live.. and feel

well.....

If that is the case.. there are a couple of options.... if Free T4 is

also low... increase your dose... if Free T4 is at a good level but Free

T3 is really low.. then you can work on boosting conversion, or you might

be one that needs to add extra T3, that would be Cytomel..

You have to do what you feel most comfortable with though....

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:21:53 -0000 " Theresa " writes:

> I posted earlier today about question relating to seeing my Endo

> tomorrow. I am still waiting to hear back from some of you. My

> other

> question is if I remember right that I was told not to take any of

> my

> Armour before I have Labs taken. Is this right? I also do not see

> the

> doctor until about twelve thirty and by the time they call me back

> and

> see the doctor then take the labes it will be about one thirty or

> later

> before the labs taken. Is that alright to go without any Armour for

> so

> long? By the afternoon I am usually on my second dose of Armour. I

>

> breatk it up during day. Thanks in advance for your help and

> advice.

> Look forward to hearing from some of you.

>

>

> Theresa

[Guest guest]

>

> I posted earlier today about question relating to seeing my Endo

> tomorrow. I am still waiting to hear back from some of you. My

other

> question is if I remember right that I was told not to take any of

my

> Armour before I have Labs taken. Is this right? I also do not

see the

> doctor until about twelve thirty and by the time they call me back

and

> see the doctor then take the labes it will be about one thirty or

later

> before the labs taken. Is that alright to go without any Armour

for so

> long? By the afternoon I am usually on my second dose of Armour.

I

> breatk it up during day. Thanks in advance for your help and

advice.

> Look forward to hearing from some of you.

>

>

> Theresa

>

My understanding is no meds 4 hours before blood draw..so if you are

getting blood drawn in the morning yuo take your morning dose after

labs, if you are getting your blood drawn in the afternoon then you

take your morning dose as normal.. considering you multidose I would

take the morning dose, making sure it is at least 4 hours beofre

your appointment and then bring your Armour with you and take your

afternoon dose after the blood draw.

Kats3boys

[Guest guest]

>

> I posted earlier today about question relating to seeing my Endo

> tomorrow. I am still waiting to hear back from some of you. My

other

> question is if I remember right that I was told not to take any of

my

> Armour before I have Labs taken. Is this right? I also do not

see the

> doctor until about twelve thirty and by the time they call me back

and

> see the doctor then take the labes it will be about one thirty or

later

> before the labs taken. Is that alright to go without any Armour

for so

> long? By the afternoon I am usually on my second dose of Armour.

I

> breatk it up during day. Thanks in advance for your help and

advice.

> Look forward to hearing from some of you.

>

>

> Theresa

>

My understanding is no meds 4 hours before blood draw..so if you are

getting blood drawn in the morning yuo take your morning dose after

labs, if you are getting your blood drawn in the afternoon then you

take your morning dose as normal.. considering you multidose I would

take the morning dose, making sure it is at least 4 hours beofre

your appointment and then bring your Armour with you and take your

afternoon dose after the blood draw.

Kats3boys

[Guest guest]

kats3boys wrote: >> I posted earlier today about question relating to seeing my Endo > tomorrow. I am still waiting to hear back from some of you. My other > question is if I remember right that I was told not to take any of my > Armour before I have Labs taken. Is this right? I also do not see the > doctor until about twelve

thirty and by the time they call me back and > see the doctor then take the labes it will be about one thirty or later > before the labs taken. Is that alright to go without any Armour for so > long? By the afternoon I am usually on my second dose of Armour. I > breatk it up during day. Thanks in advance for your help and advice. > Look forward to hearing from some of you.> > > Theresa>My understanding is no meds 4 hours before blood draw..so if you are getting blood drawn in the morning yuo take your morning dose after labs, if you are getting your blood drawn in the afternoon then you take your morning dose as normal.. considering you multidose I would take the morning dose, making sure it is at least 4 hours beofre your appointment and then bring your Armour with you and take your afternoon dose after the blood draw.Kats3boys Theresa: I guess I'm the one guy here in the othe camp. I think you should forgoe the thryoid pills until AFTER your blood test. If you don't wait you could run the danger or falsley elevated levels which would make your doc would think means you need LESS hormone. I always wait till after the blood draw...even if I don't go until noon. Really...I've never felt a difference and I'm in no danger of a doc taking my pills away. I just like to have the MOST accurate numbers in hand so I can chart things for myself. Just my little two cents.. ~E:) ~EG Connecticut T-T 2 years ago - 60 mcg Synthetic/97.5mg Armour

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