Guest guest Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 I have read that Chinese soy sauce contains less grain than Japanese soy sauce and so it may have a lower amount of wheat, but it still usually contains some wheat. If you go to an Asian market and read the labels of Chinese imported soy sauce, you will find that there are next to no soy sauces that don't contain wheat. One exception to this is a black bean sauce that often doesn't contain wheat that can be used as a soy sauce. I have no experience with authentic Vietnamese ingredients, but I would proceed with caution, at least in Vietnamese restaurants in the states. I would also want to research more before trusting soy sauce in the country itself. Unless they spend a lot of effort communicating with restaurants, I suspect that anyone who says they haven't had trouble eating in China doesn't have very strong reactions to gluten and may not be able to tell they are getting small amounts of wheat in soy sauce etc. I have heard some people say that they had a good experience, but usually either they or their companions were able to communicate with the staff to make sure of the dish's safety. There are also differences in regional cuisine that make some areas of China easier for those avoiding gluten. Unfortunately I have not had good luck with American Chinese restaurants due to contamination from soy sauce and other ingredients. I've had a reaction from supposedly plain vegetables just sauteed in oil and salt- I suspect wok contamination or contaminated ingredients. In that case communication was not the issue because a friend talked to the staff in Cantonese. Some people do have luck with dishes in a clear cornstarch based sauce, but I've found them very bland and again, the wok issue makes me hesitant. The only dishes that I've had success with in Chinese restaurants in the States are steamed vegetables and white rice- and frankly, it's so boring I'd rather cook my own Chinese food at home. Carrying your own sesame seeds, salt, or wheat-free soy sauce packets can help make it more palatable, but... why bother? Fried rice is a dish that always, always has soy sauce in it so unfortunately should be avoided. P.F. Chang's does have a gluten-free menu with some tasty options. They do admittedly American versions of Chinese food, but it does tend to be flavorful, although they aren't always as on top of the CC issues as they should be. Hope this helps! - --- In , Ruth Baillie <ruthebaillie@...> wrote: > > Re. the China mention - soy sauce rarely contains gluten in other > countries....in Vietnam and China etc - there is not wheat/gluten in > their soy sauce so this is probably why the person said they had no > problems eating in China. > Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 > Dana, > You said rice was a bad deal at your house. Behavioral, stomach, headaches, how? Hyper hyper hyper. Foggy and spacy. > How did you use the Jay Robb whey protein in recipes? I didn't. I put it in yoghurt. > If you were needing to start over with a low functioning teen or young adult, where would you start? Digestive enzymes, biotin, and chelation. But this is what helped at first with MY son. I don't know if it would help with yours. There is also the strength factor to consider, because your son is older and therefore possibly stronger than you are. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 He is much stronger than me and can even do damage to his Dad. I am thinking we need to do whatever has to be done to bring this situation under control, then go back to biomed to heal his body. Is that reasonable or even possible, once we start down the psych medicine road? From: danasview <danasview@...> Subject: [ ] re: Rice Date: Sunday, June 20, 2010, 10:55 AM Â > Dana, > You said rice was a bad deal at your house. Behavioral, stomach, headaches, how? Hyper hyper hyper. Foggy and spacy. > How did you use the Jay Robb whey protein in recipes? I didn't. I put it in yoghurt. > If you were needing to start over with a low functioning teen or young adult, where would you start? Digestive enzymes, biotin, and chelation. But this is what helped at first with MY son. I don't know if it would help with yours. There is also the strength factor to consider, because your son is older and therefore possibly stronger than you are. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Many docs have said that if meds are needed, then use them while you do diet and biomedical to help heal the body. Then wean off from the meds. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. nancy j From: danasview <danasview@...> Subject: [ ] re: Rice Date: Sunday, June 20, 2010, 10:55 AM  > Dana, > You said rice was a bad deal at your house. Behavioral, stomach, headaches, how? Hyper hyper hyper. Foggy and spacy. > How did you use the Jay Robb whey protein in recipes? I didn't. I put it in yoghurt. > If you were needing to start over with a low functioning teen or young adult, where would you start? Digestive enzymes, biotin, and chelation. But this is what helped at first with MY son. I don't know if it would help with yours. There is also the strength factor to consider, because your son is older and therefore possibly stronger than you are. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Thanks. That makes me feel better. From: danasview <danasview@...> Subject: [ ] re: Rice Date: Sunday, June 20, 2010, 10:55 AM Â > Dana, > You said rice was a bad deal at your house. Behavioral, stomach, headaches, how? Hyper hyper hyper. Foggy and spacy. > How did you use the Jay Robb whey protein in recipes? I didn't. I put it in yoghurt. > If you were needing to start over with a low functioning teen or young adult, where would you start? Digestive enzymes, biotin, and chelation. But this is what helped at first with MY son. I don't know if it would help with yours. There is also the strength factor to consider, because your son is older and therefore possibly stronger than you are. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 > He is much stronger than me and can even do damage to his Dad. I am thinking we need to do whatever has to be done to bring this situation under control, then go back to biomed to heal his body. Is that reasonable or even possible, once we start down the psych medicine road? I know several people who have done this. You need to get your son manageable so you can work on healing him. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 What enzyme did you say helped with gluten and casein consumption? From: danasview <danasview@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Rice Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 9:33 AM Â > He is much stronger than me and can even do damage to his Dad. I am thinking we need to do whatever has to be done to bring this situation under control, then go back to biomed to heal his body. Is that reasonable or even possible, once we start down the psych medicine road? I know several people who have done this. You need to get your son manageable so you can work on healing him. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 we use Houston zyme prime and afp. We use No-Fenol for phenols and salicylates. They all work well for us. nancy j From: danasview <danasview@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Rice Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 9:33 AM  > He is much stronger than me and can even do damage to his Dad. I am thinking we need to do whatever has to be done to bring this situation under control, then go back to biomed to heal his body. Is that reasonable or even possible, once we start down the psych medicine road? I know several people who have done this. You need to get your son manageable so you can work on healing him. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2010 Report Share Posted June 22, 2010 Ok thanks. From: danasview <danasview@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Rice Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 9:33 AM Â > He is much stronger than me and can even do damage to his Dad. I am thinking we need to do whatever has to be done to bring this situation under control, then go back to biomed to heal his body. Is that reasonable or even possible, once we start down the psych medicine road? I know several people who have done this. You need to get your son manageable so you can work on healing him. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 > What enzyme did you say helped with gluten and casein consumption? I used HNI AFP Peptizyde, which worked for my son for gluten, casein, and soy. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 Thanks. I have some of that on hand. I tried the Trienza once but it didn't work well. How much should I start with? From: danasview <danasview@...> Subject: [ ] Re: Rice Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 9:10 AM Â > What enzyme did you say helped with gluten and casein consumption? I used HNI AFP Peptizyde, which worked for my son for gluten, casein, and soy. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2010 Report Share Posted June 23, 2010 > Thanks. I have some of that on hand. I tried the Trienza once but it didn't work well. How much should I start with? Maybe 1/2 capsule. Some kids are very sensitive and start with 1/4 capsule. Most people need to work up to 1 capsule per average sized meal, some need 2. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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